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[Logan]

Isochroma, get some help. You're manic as fuck.

Seconded

How can you tell he is manic from what he posted?

If you know anything about being manic or hypomanic, you would be thinking the same thing.

[jackj]

Yeah after reading the first page..plus I missed the manic claims just before my post. Any idea who or why his account was removed?

[babcock]

Yeah after reading the first page..plus I missed the manic claims just before my post. Any idea who or why his account was removed?

He requested it be removed as he claimed he was too restricted and censored here.

[Thorsten3]

Yeah after reading the first page..plus I missed the manic claims just before my post. Any idea who or why his account was removed?

He requested it be removed as he claimed he was too restricted and censored here.

I think he was a bit sensitive so didn't respond well to being referred to as manic. It may have been that daily 'bowl of bud' that he took each night with his piracetam. Paranoia? Who knows....Maybe he'll come back with a different name. He might try to disguise himself with bad grammer and poorly constructed sentances! Although obviously he'd still be a piracetam promoter so watch out for any new guy who suddenly starts posting about his love for the white stuff!!

[acantelopepope]

Some examples of how manic and threatening piracetam made Isochroma from this thread alone are below. He made some very valid points himself about the other factors that could contribute to his current state--inherent personality traits and other dietary factors (weed, MDMA, etc. which he has said he used). One thought that's come to me regarding his mania is regarding his choline intake. As you would find out if you read some of his earliest posts, when he began taking piracetam he DID get the piracetam "headaches" and ate 4-6 raw eggs/day to alleviate them. This worked for him and after 1.5 months he no longer needed to take the eggs. He posited that the headaches were caused by the growth of acetylcholine receptors (a verified consequence of continued piracetam usage in peer-reviewed studies) and after Ach receptor density had peaked he no longer needed to supply extra choline in his diet. This makes enough sense to me. However, during my research a few months ago pertaining to piracetam's blunted effects within my body I came across very interesting evidence that choline is one of the strongest mood stabilizers in our diet. They give it to manic people to chill them out. Personally I was actually taking so much choline (the opposite of Isochroma -- about 5g/day) that I became wildly depressed whenever I ingested it. I am only just now able to start eating foods like eggs and cauliflower, which are rich sources of choline. For several months after discontinuing choline supplementation, whenever I ate something with choline in it, I became depressed. It was very odd and when knowledge of that effect is applied to Isochroma's case, it would seem that he has starved himself of choline and thereby caused his moods to swing in the other direction of the manic-depressed axis.

Posts like these seem to be the result:

"I've upped my dose to 24g per day since last night. The level of power is almost too much to bear...It is time to change the world. I will grip it with my own hands and squeeze it, tear it, turn it, pound it until it becomes my image. The eternities within the creation cycle will hear my voice. Death is coming soon but not just yet. I want more power until there is no end, and then I will turn it to use...It is almost time for me to become the tool of the silent voice and the hand of god. Being so close to the edge is frustrating. I must count the heartbeats. Timing, the timing is everything. A new game of chess, one that I will win no matter how the opponent moves. But for now I must wait. Patience...

Last night I was smashing the skulls of cats. They didn't put up much of a fight either. The night before I killed dozens of people and other creatures. For the first time they all lost to me. There was no fear, only the joy of reaping.

Feet burning to run someone down: this is what it is to be a predator.

It will soon be time to put these skills to use. The power is begging, crying, screaming to be used. It wants me to be its tool. It wants to grow without limit and expand into forever. And I will let it, just not quite yet. It must be held in check until the exact moment. Then there will be joy without limits.

The shine behind my eyes continues to grow. I am becoming something else: a mirror of the active side of infinity. A very dangerous thing indeed.

Only those who can withstand that ruthless pressure will exist to grasp the hand of god and become one with eternity.

That's hard because everyone else is slowing down and dumbing down. Those people in daily life. I can't stand their slowness, their imperfect memories, their lack of total conception. I've become a different person since starting piracetam. I've become so tight, so unforgiving, so ruthless.

I've got to be a sheep, but I'm now a wolf.

As it will be until the end - and the end is very near indeed.

A mandatory warning though: power is corrosive, and this level is very difficult to control. It wants to fulfill its own agenda.


"...the chick at the counter was amazed at my speed. She had to get me to slow down my speaking...I can tell because she asked me why I was so different than the rest of the herd in line. So I told her as I pulled out the portable piraetam jar and dosed right then and there, at the counter. A full tablespoon swallowed dry, but I don't care. I could eat a pound dry. It doesn't matter anymore."


During any given day and night cycle so much inside me changes that I become many different people. The key is to not become attached to any one but to keep moving with the current.

The power of being balanced on the knife edge between perfect sanity and absolute unsanity.

It is my goal to reach total power and total domination before I die. That will be my fun. It will be supremely entertaining to roll over the world like a giant earthmover. Crunch, grind, squirt.

I am a very evil person, but have been skimping on it due to lack of energy. It takes a lot of energy to be truly evil...Piracetam has - along with fish oil - allowed that black flower to bloom. Like some kind of fertilizer it feeds the dark worms that crawl like slugs through the soil. The beast within awakes a bit every day."


Some of my best friends are bipolar with manic tendencies, and the only difference between them and Isochroma seems to be that at least they recognize that they are behaving manically, eventually. I really do hope Isochroma takes a step back and evaluates his thought patterns and behavior. He needs to understand that it's not HIMSELF that is the origin of these fantastical thoughts but rather a chemical that he's putting into himself every day. True being manic is highly enjoyable---until you are put into a situation in which your reality crashes into the reality of others. Either you force your distorted reality upon the masses (i.e., Hitler's Nazi Germany) or you are brought to a resounding halt and must be forced to pick up your tattered life.

[jackj]

I see he stopped Choline and took fish oil which is what I was/am about to start doing (people here seem to be one step ahead of me!). I do recall Alpha GPC making me feel a bit down and mellow and the only reason I was taking it was to stop the headaches but I haven't had the headaches for some time. I might see if taking piracetam without choline causes headaches still... must admit I exercise and eat better meals than I did back in the day.

I hope Isochroma manages to control himself before he hurts himself or someone else.

Edited by jackj, 15 January 2010 - 02:37 AM.

[Logan]

I've been on and off it for about two years now. When I first started taking it the clarity was amazing and it took a few months to discover a few new things but once I got back to normal I had nothing new to keep me involved while taking it. I haven't done a regular cycle for a few months now and generally only take about 600mg when I go out drinking. If I take it while sober, around friends or family or during a slow period at work I become very impatient and intolerant and this I think leads to mild depression. I did read Isochromas' post though and it made a lot of sense so I might put some more thought into it next time.

I've decided to try the piracetam source that I first started with in a vein attempt to see if it brings the "good times" back but I'm not holding my breath.

So why take it when you drink?

[jackj]

I've been on and off it for about two years now. When I first started taking it the clarity was amazing and it took a few months to discover a few new things but once I got back to normal I had nothing new to keep me involved while taking it. I haven't done a regular cycle for a few months now and generally only take about 600mg when I go out drinking. If I take it while sober, around friends or family or during a slow period at work I become very impatient and intolerant and this I think leads to mild depression. I did read Isochromas' post though and it made a lot of sense so I might put some more thought into it next time.

I've decided to try the piracetam source that I first started with in a vein attempt to see if it brings the "good times" back but I'm not holding my breath.

So why take it when you drink?

My friends drink when I am out with them so I can't really just sit there. When I get drunk I become disconnected. With piracetem the connection is still there while still being drunk. Despite the fact that I might be a complete asshole (regardless)... I guess I don't know?

[spider]

I've been on and off it for about two years now. When I first started taking it the clarity was amazing and it took a few months to discover a few new things but once I got back to normal I had nothing new to keep me involved while taking it. I haven't done a regular cycle for a few months now and generally only take about 600mg when I go out drinking. If I take it while sober, around friends or family or during a slow period at work I become very impatient and intolerant and this I think leads to mild depression. I did read Isochromas' post though and it made a lot of sense so I might put some more thought into it next time.

I've decided to try the piracetam source that I first started with in a vein attempt to see if it brings the "good times" back but I'm not holding my breath.

So why take it when you drink?

My friends drink when I am out with them so I can't really just sit there. When I get drunk I become disconnected. With piracetem the connection is still there while still being drunk. Despite the fact that I might be a complete asshole (regardless)... I guess I don't know?

I know social pressure is difficult to resist, but you must be able to do it. Real friends among your friends will respect your decision not to drink alcohol.

[Logan]

I've been on and off it for about two years now. When I first started taking it the clarity was amazing and it took a few months to discover a few new things but once I got back to normal I had nothing new to keep me involved while taking it. I haven't done a regular cycle for a few months now and generally only take about 600mg when I go out drinking. If I take it while sober, around friends or family or during a slow period at work I become very impatient and intolerant and this I think leads to mild depression. I did read Isochromas' post though and it made a lot of sense so I might put some more thought into it next time.

I've decided to try the piracetam source that I first started with in a vein attempt to see if it brings the "good times" back but I'm not holding my breath.

So why take it when you drink?

My friends drink when I am out with them so I can't really just sit there. When I get drunk I become disconnected. With piracetem the connection is still there while still being drunk. Despite the fact that I might be a complete asshole (regardless)... I guess I don't know?

I know social pressure is difficult to resist, but you must be able to do it. Real friends among your friends will respect your decision not to drink alcohol.

Umm, it didn't sound like peer pressure was involved here.

[spider]

I've been on and off it for about two years now. When I first started taking it the clarity was amazing and it took a few months to discover a few new things but once I got back to normal I had nothing new to keep me involved while taking it. I haven't done a regular cycle for a few months now and generally only take about 600mg when I go out drinking. If I take it while sober, around friends or family or during a slow period at work I become very impatient and intolerant and this I think leads to mild depression. I did read Isochromas' post though and it made a lot of sense so I might put some more thought into it next time.

I've decided to try the piracetam source that I first started with in a vein attempt to see if it brings the "good times" back but I'm not holding my breath.

So why take it when you drink?

My friends drink when I am out with them so I can't really just sit there. When I get drunk I become disconnected. With piracetem the connection is still there while still being drunk. Despite the fact that I might be a complete asshole (regardless)... I guess I don't know?

I know social pressure is difficult to resist, but you must be able to do it. Real friends among your friends will respect your decision not to drink alcohol.

Umm, it didn't sound like peer pressure was involved here.

It doesn't surprize me that it didn't to you.

[jackj]

Umm, it didn't sound like peer pressure was involved here.

I don't think it is. Tell someone I know that you think I am influenced by peer pressure and I'm sure they'd laugh pretty hard.

Edited by jackj, 18 January 2010 - 02:53 AM.

[creation6is]

I believe it was partly the manic poster's use of fish oil. I know that when I took fish oil, especially krill and astaxanthin with the natural red dye, my mind changed. It did become sharper, but it became merciless. I had no empathy at all. I deeply attacked people that were near me that I felt were slow and keeping me down and preventing my progress through their own laziness and by them choosing to do things in what I viewed as the wrong way when they could be doing them a slightly different easier way and have a much better outcome. This caused me to have a lot of fights. And I stopped because I realized that nobody deserves to be attacked or be subjected to another person's negativity.

It was from the fish oil, I was taking krill oil and astaxanthin. I believe it was from the fish's natural red dye. I do know that dyes can cause mental changes in people. My nephew eats chinese dyed candy and he turns into a maniac and throws everything around and attacks animals.

I hope that it is not the piracetam because I would like to try it.

I also believe that it could the original poster's lack of other brain nutrients that stressed the brain. Because if I don't have fat my mind strains and I get defensive and attack people too. Anytime your body feels stressed you attack people. So when you get angry something in your body is under great distress and needs to be healed.

[wayweary]

Nonetheless, he writes like a god. Anybody knows if is has written a book?

[Turnbuckle]

Nonetheless, he writes like a god. Anybody knows if is has written a book?

 

 

I thought the same. He's a Gothic writer in the style of EA Poe. And he's pretty good at it--

 

Poe's The Tell-Tale Heart:

TRUE! -- nervous -- very, very dreadfully nervous I had been and am; but why will you say that I am mad? The disease had sharpened my senses -- not destroyed -- not dulled them. Above all was the sense of hearing acute. I heard all things in the heaven and in the earth. I heard many things in hell. How, then, am I mad? Hearken! and observe how healthily -- how calmly I can tell you the whole story.

 

It is impossible to say how first the idea entered my brain; but once conceived, it haunted me day and night. Object there was none. Passion there was none. I loved the old man. He had never wronged me. He had never given me insult. For his gold I had no desire. I think it was his eye! yes, it was this! One of his eyes resembled that of a vulture -- a pale blue eye, with a film over it. Whenever it fell upon me, my blood ran cold; and so by degrees -- very gradually -- I made up my mind to take the life of the old man, and thus rid myself of the eye forever.

 

 

Guest_Isochroma:

I've upped my dose to 24g per day since last night. The level of power is almost too much to bear...It is time to change the world. I will grip it with my own hands and squeeze it, tear it, turn it, pound it until it becomes my image. The eternities within the creation cycle will hear my voice. Death is coming soon but not just yet. I want more power until there is no end, and then I will turn it to use...It is almost time for me to become the tool of the silent voice and the hand of god. Being so close to the edge is frustrating. I must count the heartbeats. Timing, the timing is everything. A new game of chess, one that I will win no matter how the opponent moves. But for now I must wait. Patience...

 

The shine behind my eyes continues to grow. I am becoming something else: a mirror of the active side of infinity. A very dangerous thing indeed.

 

Last night I was smashing the skulls of cats. They didn't put up much of a fight either. The night before I killed dozens of people and other creatures. For the first time they all lost to me. There was no fear, only the joy of reaping.

 

 

 

Some serious thoughts from Isochroma.

Edited by Turnbuckle, 20 July 2014 - 06:33 PM.

[Metalpriest]

4 more years to go I guess.