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[CerebralCortex]

http://colinfarrelly...-condensed.html

A very affective image!

Profound concept. I tried to comment on that but I dont see a way. This would be a good entry to also post in digg.

To all, for 3 small contributions, links, comments, to this team per month, you can be entered in the monthly volunteer prize drawing, and most importantly, inspire more people to volunteer, exponentially more so, as this cause continues to grow toward those critical tipping points that can help this cause go world-wide.

I'll digg it too then.

[N.T.M.]

Alright, here's my blog that I'll be updating (about) weekly:

http://blightofdeath.blogspot.com/

It has two entries thus far.

Audience scope: (predominantly) Those who are at least already vaguely familiar with the subject matter in conjunction with attracting those who are more inexperienced.

[brokenportal]

Alright thanks, linking the whole blog is good, but remember that the way the team works is to link each blog individually as they are made. You could link them as you create them, you could put all the links here once a month, and there is no commitment so if you miss months thats fine, its just that when you do contribute at least one of your blog posts for the month you get entered in the prize drawing. For other things in the team its 3 contributions, but for creating blog posts and linking them (at least 1) that is good.

[N.T.M.]

Alright thanks, linking the whole blog is good, but remember that the way the team works is to link each blog individually as they are made. You could link them as you create them, you could put all the links here once a month, and there is no commitment so if you miss months thats fine, its just that when you do contribute at least one of your blog posts for the month you get entered in the prize drawing. For other things in the team its 3 contributions, but for creating blog posts and linking them (at least 1) that is good.

You'd be surprised by my poor computer skills. I'll have to find out how to link individual blogs. It shouldn't be too hard.

[brokenportal]

After you post a blog, youll see your blog there, and then you just copy and paste the url at the top of that page. For example if you look at the top of this page here youll see that the url is: http://www.imminst.o...mp;#entry405826 Just highlight it, right click on it, choose copy, and then paste it in a response here.

[N.T.M.]

After you post a blog, youll see your blog there, and then you just copy and paste the url at the top of that page. For example if you look at the top of this page here youll see that the url is: http://www.imminst.o...mp;#entry405826 Just highlight it, right click on it, choose copy, and then paste it in a response here.

Alright, sounds good. Thank you.

[N.T.M.]

Well this turned out longer than I originally intended:

http://blightofdeath...minimizing.html

IDK how many parts there will be. Perhaps about 5.

*edit* This series is very important because it explains the reasons to be optimistic. You can't assess our odds of success accurately by applying only a moderate increase in current lifespans.

Edited by N.T.M., 10 May 2010 - 03:04 AM.

[N.T.M.]

Had to interject this before continuing:

http://blightofdeath...fficacy-of.html

[N.T.M.]

I love to write. I'm going to be a writer in addition to a professional pianist and a doctor.

http://blightofdeath...bridgement.html

[N.T.M.]

http://blightofdeath...ding-aging.html

*edit* I need to start finding ways to advertise my blog. :(

Edited by N.T.M., 23 May 2010 - 09:41 AM.

[brokenportal]

http://blightofdeath...ding-aging.html

*edit* I need to start finding ways to advertise my blog. :(

I commented on this blog. Thanks N.T.M. With the new forum upgrades here at Imminst, I suggest you run this through our blogs set up. It appears that they are now condensed into one feed via the blog tab.

[N.T.M.]

http://blightofdeath...ding-aging.html

*edit* I need to start finding ways to advertise my blog. :(

I commented on this blog. Thanks N.T.M. With the new forum upgrades here at Imminst, I suggest you run this through our blogs set up. It appears that they are now condensed into one feed via the blog tab.

I tried to do that, but it said that an error occurred.

[brokenportal]

I tried to do that, but it said that an error occurred.

I think you have to join as a member. Can you do that right now? Its worth it.

Join link: http://www.imminst.o...p=subscriptions

[brokenportal]

Heres an interesting article, sort of, for a bit of perspective and insight from a different angle, "Learn Life Extension Lessons from Chickens". It looks like exaggeration and snake oil. Created by a person who sells cleansing products, the the story about the chicken cells seems like its worth investigating.

Is it true? If it is then what are its implications with the big picture of what we are doing, and why would they terminate it? Seems like it would be a major waste.

http://www.naturalne...xperiments.html

Remember the point of linking these articles here is for us all to go in there and leave positive comments about this cause. These are lead ins of sorts for us to disseminate the info of this cause farther and wider.

[brokenportal]

Heres a good article from what I think is an affiliate of Pub Med, PLoS Biology. Somebody can add this to digg.

http://www.ncbi.nlm....cles/PMC423155/

Heres an excerpt:

"The escape velocity cusp is closer than you might guess. Since we are already so long lived, even a 30% increase in healthy life span will give the first beneficiaries of rejuvenation therapies another 20 years—an eternity in science—to benefit from second-generation therapies that would give another 30%, and so on ad infinitum. Thus, if first-generation rejuvenation therapies were universally available and this progress in developing rejuvenation therapy could be indefinitely maintained, these advances would put us beyond AEV. Universal availability might be thought economically and sociopolitically implausible (though that conclusion may be premature, as I will summarise below), so it's worth considering the same question in terms of life-span potential (the life span of the luckiest people). Figure 1 again illustrates this: those who get first-generation therapies only just in time will in fact be unlikely to live more than 20–30 years more than their parents, because they will spend many frail years with a short remaining life expectancy (i.e., a high risk of imminent death), whereas those only a little younger will never get that frail and will spend rather few years even in biological middle age. Quantitatively, what this means is that if a 10% per year decline of mortality rates at all ages is achieved and sustained indefinitely, then the first 1000-year-old is probably only 5–10 years younger than the first 150-year-old."

[caliban]

http://www.npr.org/b...at-can-be-cured

[N.T.M.]

I tried to do that, but it said that an error occurred.

I think you have to join as a member. Can you do that right now? Its worth it.

Join link: http://www.imminst.o...p=subscriptions

I just did (for a year), but the same message appears. Do I need to do something differently?

Oh, and here’s my latest blog:

http://blightofdeath...that-there.html

Edited by N.T.M., 17 July 2010 - 11:16 PM.

[brokenportal]

"Immortality Distracts" from overcomingbias.com

http://www.overcomin...#comment-451900

Excerpt:
"But if you search for his name and “immortality” you will find he is associated with that word quite often, including in the title of many interviews of him. He’s even listed as an advisor to the Immortality Institute. And you’ll find things like:

De Grey says he is talking about the “indefinite extension of longevity.” “Average life spans would be in the region of 1,000 years,” he says. “Seriously.” … So humans will be just as spry at 500 as we were at 25? “If you have difficultly imaging this, think about the situation with houses. With moderate maintenance they stay up, they stay intact, inhabitable more or less forever. It’s just that we have to do a bit of maintenance to keep them going. And it’s going to be the same with us,” says de Grey. …

“The first generation [of new med tech] will give us maybe 30 extra years of healthy lifespan,” says de Grey. “So, beneficiaries of those first therapies will still be around to benefit from improved therapies that will give them another 30 or 50 years and so on. So this is basically staying one step ahead of the problem.” … De Grey acknowledges that immortality will not be cheap. “We are talking about serious expenditure here.”

Are houses immortal? Very few (no?) thousand year old houses still function, and maintenance costs probably makes them cost more overall than just building a new house. Old houses are even more expensive if you want to retrofit them with modern conveniences, such as lights or air conditioning, or if you consider the opportunity cost of the land on which they sit. And even if, with sufficient expenditure, houses could last a thousand years, that should be little comfort to those who can’t possibly afford such expense. Furthermore, lasting a thousand years is nothing like being immortal!"

[N.T.M.]

I like the parallel drawn here with houses. I'll be sure to use that when introducing the concept to new people. I think it's really helpful.

[brokenportal]

Here is a blog about the microglial stem cell project. Positive comments here can go a long ways. Its good they set it up in a negative light, because people new to the subject are inclined to play the devils advocate for us, and positive commentary is extra potent in a situation like that.

http://nextbigfuture...ood-enough.html

[Droplet]

These horrifying stories have been in the news. Perhaps someone here would like to comment?

http://www.mirror.co...tors_picks=true

Also one on dementia: http://www.guardian....p?newsfeed=true

[brokenportal]

Great, thanks. I commented on both of them.

When we do this then it encourages authors of things like these to be more inclined to write things that are related to indefinite life extension. These authors want to keep their jobs and move on to bigger things, they read these comments. If there are 20 general comments and even just 2 or 3 that stand out as united toward SENS or pro indefinite life extension, then they will be inclined to write that way in the future.

[Droplet]

A few more for you:

http://www.telegraph...-St-George.html

Warning: This one is upsetting.
http://www.dailymail...amp-victim.html

This one is also quite tragic but at least the guy is living life to the full:
http://www.dailymail...-condition.html

A study with berries and cognitive decline:
http://www.barcheste...ne-in-women.htm

[Droplet]

An article about improving lives of people with dementia by use of various products. Perhaps we can mention our ideas there?

http://www.guardian....a?newsfeed=true

[Droplet]

Loads here:

http://news.google.c...8hKITR&ict=tnv0

This may also be worth a few words for those who think we will overpopulate:
http://www.reuters.c...E8FPEV820120425

[Droplet]

One about not seeing arthritis as an inevitable part of aging and how we will see a huge increase. I'm sure a person more eloquent and informed than I could leave a message about how the suffering of all aging isn't normal or inevitable:

http://www.telegraph...7m-charity.html

[Droplet]

Lots in the news today:

One about falls being major cause of death in the elderly:
http://www.telegraph...ted-report.html

One about the aging population "time bomb":
http://www.telegraph...GP-service.html

Really horrible story about a dementia sufferer being tazered. :(
http://www.dailymail...e_news_rss_feed

[brokenportal]

http://beinghuman.bl...thing-11293741/

death is an extremely central part of the grand machinery that has evolved through millions of years of trial and error to keep Earth livable and habitable.
The whole ecosystem on planet Earth is based on death and on creatures devouring the remains of other, dead creatures. In fact, only this process of endless renewal of resources can keep life going on perpetually on this little blue planet.

[Droplet]

That one pissed me off so I commented as best I could in the limited time before I go to work.

[Droplet]

An article about the rising cost in care for the elderly:
http://www.dailymail...o=feeds-newsxml