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[TheFountain]

I am looking for something better than huperzine for cognitive enhancement. Piracetam seems anxiogenic (correct me of I am wrong here, but that's what some accounts say). So I would prefer other suggestions if possible. Something without so many side effects.

[Ichoose2live]

Pramiracetam
Noopept
Cerebrolysin
Semax
Desmopressin
Galantamine (Maybe not better, but it's a good alternative)
Deprenyl
IRDA-21 - Powerful Ampakine and Long-Term Potentiation enhancer. Increase BDNF.

Edited by Ichoose2live, 27 April 2011 - 03:56 PM.

[csrpj]

some may find piracetam anxiogenic. i - and plenty others, too - find piracetam anxiolytic.

but you can look into aniracetam, which is know to be anxiolytic.

[Thorsten3]

IRDA-21 - Powerful Ampakine and Long-Term Potentiation enhancer. Increase BDNF.

What's that? Sounds like a RC

I googled it and got zero results.

[Guacamolium]

IDRA-21 isn't commercially available. Its cost to make is too much for the dose needed to illicit any desirable effect. I wish it was though.

FWIR, its ethyl analogue is more efficacious - 5 ethyl IDRA-21.

[Ichoose2live]

One of our member got it. http://www.longecity...post__p__456112

We may ask him where he got it. Also, note my ridiculous error post that claim that this stuff is toxic, which is not. I made a stupid error of reading. Just read the study. And I make many linguistics errors.

[TheFountain]

Pramiracetam
Noopept
Cerebrolysin
Semax
Desmopressin
Galantamine (Maybe not better, but it's a good alternative)
Deprenyl
IRDA-21 - Powerful Ampakine and Long-Term Potentiation enhancer. Increase BDNF.

Are most of these available on sites like vitacost and iherb? I know deprenyl is a prescription medication right? I want to stay away from prescription medicine.

Edited by TheFountain, 27 April 2011 - 08:03 PM.

[Ichoose2live]

Pramiracetam
Noopept
Cerebrolysin
Semax
Desmopressin
Galantamine (Maybe not better, but it's a good alternative)
Deprenyl
IRDA-21 - Powerful Ampakine and Long-Term Potentiation enhancer. Increase BDNF.

Are most of these available on sites like vitacost and iherb? I know deprenyl is a prescription medication right? I want to stay away from prescription medicine.

Noopept, you must get it form Russia. ask the member - http://www.longecity...ser/10155-saha/ he sells Noopept, Semax and other Russian Nootropic.
Cerebrolysin and Semax are by Intramuscular injection. I don't know where to get Cerebrolysin.
Galantamine from Smartpowders is cheap.
Desmopressin and Deprenyl, you can get them from antiaging-systems.com
IDRA-21, I don't know where the hell you get this. We may ask kikai93 he was capable of getting some.

Edited by Ichoose2live, 27 April 2011 - 10:44 PM.

[Guacamolium]

One of our member got it. http://www.longecity...post__p__456112

We may ask him where he got it. Also, note my ridiculous error post that claim that this stuff is toxic, which is not. I made a stupid error of reading. Just read the study. And I make many linguistics errors.

He probably received it from Tocris, and he may also have money to throw around. It's about $3000/kg from Synfine, and $2000/kg from China. I still think a better avenue may be its ethyl 5 analogue, or CX-614.

[noos]

Have you tried sulbutiamine? Use small dose if you feel anxiety.

[tepol]

Has anyone really noticed a difference between the different sources for it ( galantamine ) ?

I bought some tabs called , " dreamscape " here but was disappointed to experinces nothing at all after 5-7 days, i admit i didnt really continue after that , but have become more interested again for various reaons ( including lucid dreaming )

I noticed Swanson do huperzine A at 50mcg so I was just planning on trying it given its lets hassle - though I must admit i havent had much success with them since the lions mane last year , does any one have any suggetions or thoughts about this ?


tepol

Edited by tepol, 14 September 2011 - 12:13 AM.

[JChief]

some may find piracetam anxiogenic. i - and plenty others, too - find piracetam anxiolytic.

but you can look into aniracetam, which is know to be anxiolytic.

Piracetam is definitely anxiolytic for me. It's effect on lowering anxiety has been documented quite a bit. To give a direct example, it counteracts the anxiogenic effects of marijuana. Trust me Everybody is unique though ymmv. It should be noted that there are lots of reports of aniracetam making users act "dull" .

Edited by JChief, 16 September 2011 - 04:50 AM.

[JChief]

He probably received it from Tocris, and he may also have money to throw around. It's about $3000/kg from Synfine, and $2000/kg from China. I still think a better avenue may be its ethyl 5 analogue, or CX-614.

CX717 always interested me. It was sold to one company and back and its been round and round. CX-614 has poor bioavailability, and are only active at very high doses of 1000 mg or more. CX-717 and CX-1739 are newer and more potent drugs in the same series.

Edited by JChief, 16 September 2011 - 04:52 AM.