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#1 Mikels

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 05:07 PM


I am 20 years old male student.

Close to a year ago my friend recommended me nicotine patch for better results in math test.
I know lots of people use adderall for this, but i was always against all drugs. My friend told me that nicotine patch is much safer and there is nothing to worry about.

I was taking 7mg Nicoderm Patches for 1 week. They really helped me with concentration, long hours of studying, and i performed very good at test. However after quitting i found that i became anxious, i started having extreme mood swings - to the point that my friends started saying "WTF is with you?".

It's been close to a year now. But those side effects never went away. I became less social, irritable, moody, burst into rage over nothing. I am not nearly motivated, self-confident as i used to be.

Here is short quote about nicotine effects on the brain


Scientists say cigarettes' most addictive component -- nicotine -- may also lead to degeneration in a region of the brain that affects emotional control, sexual arousal, REM sleep and seizures.
The findings, reported in a new study, could help doctors pinpoint the part of the brain that gives some people increased susceptibility to chronic smoking or drug addiction, researchers said.
"Nicotine causes the most selective degeneration in the brain that I have ever seen," said the study's lead author, neuroscientist Gaylord Ellison. He and other colleagues at the University of California, Los Angeles, published their findings in the latest issue of Neuropharmacology, a Bristol, England-based medical journal.


Any way to help the recovery?

Edited by Mikels, 01 June 2012 - 05:09 PM.


#2 jadamgo

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Posted 05 June 2012 - 06:51 PM

Yeah, it seems that nicotine triggered an emotion regulation disorder for you. Unfortunate that it happened, but it IS reversible.

Your symptoms are basically mixed anxiety-depression. Anxiety, mood swings, irritability and rages (a depression symptom in males), loss of motivation, loss of self confidence... all points at anxiety and depression.

There are two basic approaches to this: drugs and lifestyle.

Drugs means antidepressants. I'd suggest trying Wellbutrin first, since it has effects on nicotine receptors. It helps smokers quit and quitters stay off nicotine. So it may help you. The other good option is an SSRI like citalopram.

If those don't work, I'd suggest the lifestyle option instead of trying further drugs. That means that you see a cognitive-behavioral therapist for a session or two, and find out what techniques you need to learn to stop the mood swings and handle the loss of motivation and self confidence. Don't worry, you don't need to "become a therapy patient." You can learn the basic CBT skills in a few short sessions. It will take time to work, but it will work. A session of CBT is usually $100-150, so this option does cost more than an initial trial of drugs. But if the first 2 drugs you try aren't successful, CBT or a related scientific evidence-based brief therapy is your biggest chance for success.
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#3 Junk Master

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 12:13 AM

Nice reply, Jadamgo. Glad to see you mention CBT. Personally, I think CBT should be mandated in conjunction with SSRI use. Also, I question the science behind long-term SSRI use.

Mikels, let me reassure you that one week of nicotine patch use isn't going to produce any long term brain damage.

From the anxious tone of your post, and the symptoms you describe you do sound like you could benefit from CBT, though instead of the SSRI I'd suggest you try Uridine sublingually with fish oil and a decent B multi-vitamin.

#4 truboy

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 12:32 AM

Mikels, let me reassure you that one week of nicotine patch use isn't going to produce any long term brain damage.

Junk Master it sure can!!! i had similar experience!!!
Nicotine is a drug and it has strong effect on brain even at first contact:
Nicotine and cocaine leave similar mark on brain after first contact

It's all depends on the dose and the period of time. Read here about nicotine pathces and nicotine overdose.

Read here about feeling/state of people after nicotine supply no longer available for brain, and how long it can last:
Quit smoking a year ago - sick ever since!

Edited by truboy, 06 June 2012 - 12:36 AM.


#5 Junk Master

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Posted 06 June 2012 - 06:12 AM

"We know that a single exposure to physiologically relevant concentrations of nicotine can lead to changes in the synaptic drive in the circuitry that lasts for several days,"



Several days...



I don't believe even a couple lines of cocaine a day for a week causes long term neurological changes in "healthy" adults.



I do believe even brief exposures to nicotine or cocaine can trigger/potentiate anxiety attacks and lead to long lasting anxiety disorders.


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#6 panhedonic

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 05:59 PM

I do believe even brief exposures to nicotine or cocaine can trigger/potentiate anxiety attacks and lead to long lasting anxiety disorders.



Really? Do you have references for this?

#7 Junk Master

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:06 PM

Nicotine and cocaine can definitely trigger panic attacks in those predisposed and Anticipatory Panic attacks can occur in anyone who has had a previous attack.

#8 truboy

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:21 PM

I do believe even brief exposures to nicotine or cocaine can trigger/potentiate anxiety attacks and lead to long lasting anxiety disorders.



Really? Do you have references for this?

You need scientific research? Try to google for nicotine and cocaine withdrawals and read others people expiriences. And you will see how long those side effects including anxiety can last.

My short term nicotine experience triggered super strong anxiety, but it's faded away in 3-4 months period. However response to stress is still not like used to be before nicotine. Getting much better though. First 2 months were hell...

It's all depends on dosages and how long you use drug - nicotine is drug too LOL

i've read some meth users been 6 years clean and STILL don't return to 100% predrug condition - memory problems, brain fog, etc.

For me it's been close to 8 months now after my experiment with nicotine patch. Pretty much all side effects went away, except one - handling stress. Before nicotine i can stay calm in pretty much any situation and can understand very quickly what to do, how to act in this or that situation; after nicotine - i just loose control, can't control mind/emotions - getting better though.

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#9 panhedonic

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Posted 27 June 2012 - 11:47 PM

Well, I've had great experiences googling for "Flying pigs, double blind randomized studies".

How much nicotine? only once? a full patch? Never had anxiety before?

Anybody else heard experiences like this? one time nicotine use with long term sides? (i mean, besides OD, which can be fatal, I know)




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