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Eradication of HSV-1

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#1 Delafuente

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 03:01 PM


HSV-1 is very hard to eliminate due to its ability to establish latency within the nervous tissue. To counter this, I read that a drug (http://www.time.com/...1819739,00.html) is being developed that releases the latent virions all at once so that the immune system can eliminate the virus without having to deal with the latency issue. Otherwise, HSV-1 staggers its latency, never releasing all its virions at once to maintain a reservoir of backup viruses.

The problem with pharmaceuticals is that we have to wait a long time for them to be designed, created, and then approved, if ever.
However, there are known triggers that release HSV-1 from latency. Sunlight/UV-radiation is a prime example. Also, stimulants (caffeine, amphetamine, yohimbine, etc.) have been associated in viral activation. The proposed mechanism behind activation from latency is that the micro-RNAs produced by a latent virus prevents viral activation. These micro-RNAs lose this function when placed under stressors such as UV-radiation. Therefore, micro-RNA inactivation releases the virus from latency and initiates viral replication cycles.

I propose we use this knowledge to our advantage. For individuals with HSV-1 antibodies or cold sores:

1) Identify triggers for viral activation that you feel comfortable with. I think sunlight is a good one since it also provides vitamin D.
2) Design a powerful anti-HSV-1 supplement stack
3) Add the different supplements/drugs over time. Wait a few days to ensure that you have built up sufficient plasma concentration of the different antiviral compounds.
4) Activate the dormant viruses. Through the sunlight method, just spend as much time as possible in the sun (before getting sunburn), preferrably in the summer when UV levels are higher. Continue taking the supplement stack throughout.


Some people might be turned off by this because of UV exposure from sunlight. That is why you must identify the trigger that you are comfortable with. Perhaps none of the triggers are worthwhile, in which case we will have to wait for a drug.
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#2 Lufega

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Posted 03 June 2012 - 06:43 PM

In addition to sunlight, Arginine is a clear winner here. I don't have a problems with outbreaks so I wouldn't be able to test it on myself. One antiviral that I've found to be very potent, though lacking much research, is lomatium. I've been able to clear the flu in a couple of days and it regressed a bad case of pityriasis rosea (suspected to be caused by HHV 7 or 8) in a matter of a week. Great stuff !
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#3 Delafuente

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Posted 18 June 2012 - 01:20 AM

In addition to sunlight, Arginine is a clear winner here. I don't have a problems with outbreaks so I wouldn't be able to test it on myself. One antiviral that I've found to be very potent, though lacking much research, is lomatium. I've been able to clear the flu in a couple of days and it regressed a bad case of pityriasis rosea (suspected to be caused by HHV 7 or 8) in a matter of a week. Great stuff !


I'm not too sure what to think about Arginine and Lysine in relation to HSV-1. Can't remember if I read this in my virology textbook and/or an online journal article, but the virus constructs its structural capsid proteins (that create the body of the virus) out of primarily arginine. Thus, increasing arginine perhaps might not serve to activate the virus, rather, it might serve to enhance the production of viruses once activation is initiated. In other words, it is possible that lysine/arginine ratio influences viral load during an activation period instead of triggering activation. If this is the case, then perhaps it would be more prudent to keep lysine levels high, regardless of whether you are trying to activate the virus or not.

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Posted 02 July 2014 - 10:47 PM

Antitumor, antiviral and immunopotentiating activities of pine cone extracts: potential medicinal efficacy of natural and synthetic lignin-related materials (review).

Several antitumor substances that effectively inhibited the growth of ascites and solid tumor cells transplanted in mice were isolated from pine cone NaOH extract by acid- and ethanol-precipitation. These antitumor substances were also potent antiviral agents against human immunodeficiency virus, herpes simplex virus and influenza virus; they induced antimicrobial activity against Staphylococcal aureus, Escherichia coli, Pseudomonas aeruginosa, Klebsiella pneumoniae and Candida albicans, and induced antiparasite activity against Hymenolepis nana in mice.


http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1648335

If you search
pine cone extract pubmed
there are some more interesting studies!
I often wondered about all those pine cone sculptures at the Vatican etc.
 
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It seems that the pollen is very interesting too!?
This may be worthy of its own thread if true:

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potent androgenic effect ...
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Posted 15 August 2014 - 12:54 PM

I got some PABA and must say that I am impressed by its ability to stop fever blister outbreaks dead in people I have given it to.

It also seems to work for colds and/or flu? (winter here) and is thus worthy of further research and experimentation IMHO.

Edited by Logic, 15 August 2014 - 12:54 PM.


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Posted 15 August 2014 - 09:50 PM

Hmmm!?  this just led me here:
http://www.secrets-o...len-powder.html

It seems that the pollen is very interesting too!?
This may be worthy of its own thread if true:

"...increasing SOD levels ...
inhibiting lipid peroxidation...
increasing glutathione transferases ...
reduction of lipofuscin deposits ...
potent androgenic effect ...
contains bio-available androstenedione, testosterone, DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone), androsterone and a wide variety of other steroidal type substances..."


http://www.secrets-o...len-powder.html

 

That's a pretty sketchy site.  They sell deer antler velvet, a bad sign...



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Posted 15 August 2014 - 11:07 PM

 

Hmmm!?  this just led me here:
http://www.secrets-o...len-powder.html

It seems that the pollen is very interesting too!?
This may be worthy of its own thread if true:

"...increasing SOD levels ...
inhibiting lipid peroxidation...
increasing glutathione transferases ...
reduction of lipofuscin deposits ...
potent androgenic effect ...
contains bio-available androstenedione, testosterone, DHEA (dehydroepiandrosterone), androsterone and a wide variety of other steroidal type substances..."


http://www.secrets-o...len-powder.html

 
That's a pretty sketchy site.  They sell deer antler velvet, a bad sign...

 


I was hoping you had something to say on PABA; The above was simply interesting and worth more research.
Its a good idea to make that clear though and do a little of said research:

Effect of pine pollen on kidney mitochondria DNA deletion mutation in senile mice
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22994004

Antioxidant and antiinflammatory activity of pine pollen extract in vitro
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/19107823

Effect of pine pollen extract on experimental chronic arthritis.
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/19148883

Antiaging effect of pine pollen in human diploid fibroblasts and in a mouse model induced by D-galactose
http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/22577492


Edited by Logic, 15 August 2014 - 11:21 PM.






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