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Indefinite life extension is bigger than Civil Rights, revolutions, etc... combined. Join now, you need your help

Posted by brokenportal , 11 April 2008 · 1,903 views

This cause is bigger than revolutions, its bigger than the great Greek, and Macedonian, and Mongolian conquests, its bigger than the industrial revolution, its bigger than the great depression, all the strangling famines, its bigger than war, its bigger than Martin Luther King Jr and the Civil Rights Movement, bigger than all of them combined. The movement for indefinite life extension, indefinite life extension is here. It effects us all. It gives us all life.

You cant have peace unless you have your life to enjoy it with. You cant feed the starving unless you are alive to do it. You cant help resolve issues and make things better unless your alive to do them. All of those causes are great and needed, but this cause is the father of them all.

Its coming, its been coming and its coming in greater force now as it picks up steam. Get with the program now or later, its up to you, but we could sure use you now.

Its 2090, an oppressor is burdening a society and its economy, there may be need of a revolution. It needs enough people that care. It needs people to help make it happen. Does it happen? Is there enough support? Well, you and hundreds of thousands of people like you are dead, and thats a force this potential revolution could have had on its side. Not only that, but whether its successful or not, what does it matter to you? Your dead. This is a part of the essence of why the movement for indefinite life extension is bigger than them all combined. Without this one, other ones like it are at a loss for all the would be helpers that are now dead. With this one all future successes of other causes can continue to mean something to you because you will be alive to be affected by their outcomes.

Other causes have saved money, saved resources, saved freedom, saved the world from ecological or man made disasters, and most of all other causes have saved peoples lives. For all though that they saved, if we added it all up, they wouldnt come close to saving as much of those things as the movement for indefinite life extension. The movement for indefinite life extension saves resources, freedom, knowledge, and of course most importantly life, and all of those things, many fold more, indefinitely more so than all of the others combined. If all of the others combined are a lake of water, this movement is a river, indefinitely giving the same.

Not only that, not only is it bigger in magnitude, trumping all that they save, its also a defacto problem solver for many of those other causes. The movement for indefinite life extension unites people, people united for a common cause fight each other at far lesser percents, even if they had been previously battling. This movement helps retain more of the wisdom that is other wise lost in our dying generations. This helps in all kinds of ways, from keeping the urge to fight tamped down over all, to keeping innovative leads fresh so we can continue to follow them, to keeping our generations who have already gone through so many of these lessons, alive, so that the new generations dont have to constantly go through and repeat so many of the same mistakes. A world with the time to settle in and pursue the big goals in life is a world that is less up tight, anxious and rushed, which is a world that is less apt to strike out in frustration for the want of squeezing life in before being herded on in through the cemetery gates like so many sheep and forced to go to sleep for eternity.

Its 3010, an oppressive regime is holding children hostage as black mail so they can obtain a deadly virus held safe in a high security laboratory. Fighting it, working out the solutions to that is a worthy cause. Its a great meaningful, fulfilling, urgent cause, like so many others of the past and present. Your still dead though. Your bones continue to lie prostrate in a hole while the tyranny goes on some times right outside your cemetery. What does it matter? Your dead. You cant help. One of the terrorists hides away in to the cemetery with one of the kids during a negotiation. For a time they sit there right on your grave, with a gun to the childs head, waiting for the right time to try to make this negotiation. What are you going to do about it? The kid is killed, the hostage taker escapes, but still dies of agings ravages 30 years later. Time moves into new scenerios, scenerios where all three of you can be alive. But what does it matter to you all? Your all dead. You could all still be there, working at an organization, developing more of your goals, with accolades like that of the help that you contributed to the success of defeating those kinds of terrorists in causes like that hanging on your walls. With more positive people like you alive then the kid would have had greater odds of being saved, the terrorist would have had a greater chance of being brought to justice, and would have had a harder time becoming a terrorist in the first place.

There are many causes that need people like you in the future, many that rise or fall depending on the aid they get, progress that is made or broken depending upon the numbers, experience, insight and support available to them. Our deaths effect every single one of them for the better or not, but our continued lives means greater odds for the success of the positive outcomes for every single one of them. Thats one of the main parts, the main essence of the reason why this cause is bigger than all of them combined. This cause is all of those other causes combined. Thats one part of what it means for you to stand up with the movement for indefinite life extension.

One person can do one years worth of work in one year, but on one billion people can do one billion years worth of work in one year.

Don’t be the naysayer on the side lines telling Kennedy that his going to the moon by the end of the decade cause was to big. Don’t be that pessimist in the crowd talking about how Martin Luther King Jr. will never be able sway the bigots.

Get on the front lines and keep pushing with the Ending Aging cavalry. With the weight of the world these doors are going to break. Its not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. Don’t let indefinite life extension happen the week after you die. Get on board and help us make it happen a decade ahead of schedule.

The world is waiting. Join the network through imminst.org





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brokenportal
Oct 27 2010 08:15 PM
an old version:

This cause is bigger than revolutions, its bigger than the Roman conquests, its bigger than the industrial revolution, its bigger than a depression, its bigger than war, its bigger than Martin Luther King Jrs. Movement. The movement for indefinite life extension, indefinite life extension is here. It effects us all. It gives us all life.

You cant have peace unless you have your life to enjoy it with. You cant feed the starving unless you are alive to do it. You cant help resolve issues and make things better unless your alive to do them. All of those causes are great and needed, but this cause is the father of them all.

Its coming, its been coming and its coming in greater force now as it picks up steam. Get with the program now or later, its up to you, but we could sure use you now.

One person can do one years worth of work in one year, but on one billion people can do one billion years worth of work in one year.

Its not a hidden, what if, or a mystical thing any more. We are standing right on the cusp of the technology that is going to bring us indefinite life extension. We can work with diseases, we can work with aging. We have nano bots, we have sequenced the genome. We have incredibly powerful microscopes and an enormous database of chemical and physiological knowledge. We have laboratories with hundreds of thousands of the brightest students. Technology is only getting better, our tool box is full and still filling.

Don’t be the naysayer on the side lines telling Kennedy that his going to the moon by the end of the decade cause was to big. Don’t be that pessimist in the crowd talking about how Martin Luther King Jr. will never be able sway the bigots.

Get on the front lines and keep pushing with the Ending Aging cavalry. With the weight of the world these doors are going to break. Its not a matter of if, it’s a matter of when. Don’t let indefinite life extension happen the week after you die. Get on board and help us make it happen a decade ahead of schedule.

The world is waiting. Join the network through imminst.org

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brokenportal
Oct 28 2010 01:50 AM
@Stoly - This is a draft. I just reread it. Most other intro links are structured and supported better than this one. Like I was saying, if you want then help overhaul this one.
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G. Stolyarov II
Oct 29 2010 09:16 PM
Eric,

Below is my edited draft of this article. I streamlined it in some places and rephrased it in others; I also added a few historical examples and other ideas to expand on what you wrote. Overall, I have tried to preserve the entire substance of your message and to add more power to its expression.

Let me know what you think.

Sincerely,
G. Stolyarov II

Indefinite Life Extension:
Bigger Than Civil Rights and Revolutions Combined


Join humanity’s most ambitious movement. You need your help.


What movement can change the world more than any other?

What cause is bigger than all the revolutions of history; the great Greek, Macedonian, and Mongolian conquests; the Industrial Revolution; the Great Depression; all the strangling famines, all of history’s wars? What cause is bigger than the Civil Rights Movement and the ideas of Martin Luther King, Jr.? What cause is bigger indeed than all of these world-changing events – both creative and destructive – combined? The movement for indefinite life extension is here. It affects us all. It can give us all life.

You cannot have peace unless you have your life to enjoy it with. You cannot feed the starving unless you are alive to do it. You cannot help resolve issues and improve any aspect of the world unless you are alive to think and act. All of those causes are great and needed, but this cause is the root of them all.

The movement for indefinite life extension is picking up steam and making an ever greater mark upon the world. It is your choice to contribute to it now or later, but we sure could use you now.

Imagine that, in the year 2090, an oppressor is burdening a society and its economy. There is need of a revolution, but it can only happen if enough people care. Does it happen? Is there enough support? Well, you and hundreds of thousands of people like you are dead; a force this potential revolution could have had on its side is instead squandered. Not only that, but what does it matter to you whether it is successful or not? You are dead.

This thought experiment illuminates the essence of why the movement for indefinite life extension is more crucial than all the others combined. Without this one, other life-affirming movements lose all the would-be helpers who perish needlessly. With this one, all future successes of other causes can continue to mean something to you, because you will be alive to experience their outcomes.

Other causes have saved money, saved resources, saved freedom, saved the world from ecological or man-made disasters, and – most importantly of all – saved people’s lives. However, even the combined values that these causes saved would not come close to what could be preserved by a successful movement for indefinite life extension.

The movement for indefinite life extension can save resources, freedom, and knowledge. Most importantly, of course, it can save unprecedented numbers of lives. All of these values can be preserved to an indefinitely greater extent than possible through all other causes combined. If all the other causes combined are a lake of water, this movement is a river, giving its bounty without end.

The consequences of indefinite life extension would not just exceed all the other movements’ outcomes in magnitude; they would also solve many of the problems the other movements attempt to overcome. Problems rooted in disease, poverty, frailty, short-term thinking, unhappiness, and conflicts over resources would rapidly be resolved once humans become empowered with indefinitely sustainable good health. The renewed vigor and increased time made possible by indefinite life extension would lead people to make more intelligent, long-term-oriented decisions, instead of seeking to scrape out an uncertain existence from one day to the next. All of us would be enabled to grow and learn, to become wealthy through sustained hard work, to innovate technologically, to pursue lasting and fulfilling relationships, and to respect the inherent rights and dignity of fellow human beings. Wars and crime would dwindle and eventually disappear altogether; when life is so good, why squander it over petty grievances and prejudices?

The movement for indefinite life extension unites people. It invites them to reach out to others, irrespective of race, ethnicity, gender, class, creed, or lifestyle choices. We need all the help we can get. Indeed, as this movement gets underway, the potential for generating peace and goodwill is tremendous. History shows that, when there are common causes and interests to unite people, infighting among them diminishes dramatically. The growth of free markets and international commerce in 18th-century Europe helped quell centuries-long religious hatreds, as people found that they could gain more from trading and cooperating than from killing one another. As a result of the Scientific Revolution of the 17th-19th centuries, scientists exchange knowledge and engage in discourse with one another without regard for national boundaries. The desire to explore space and advance humankind’s frontiers led to a mellowing of the arms race between the United States and the Soviet Union, to the point where these countries cooperated in their space endeavors by the end of the Cold War. The movement for indefinite life extension can unite all of humanity against its oldest common enemy, death itself.

This movement can help retain the wisdom that is otherwise lost in our dying generations. This invaluable treasure would diminish many humans’ urge to fight. It would keep innovative ideas fresh so we can continue to explore them. How many great ideas are lost today because the people interested in them lack the time to pursue them and wither away in the process? The lessons of the past would have much greater staying power, as those who learned them would remain alive to act on their knowledge. New generations would not have to constantly go through and repeat so many of the same mistakes. How much faster would the rate of our progress become, if we do not stumble and falter against the same obstacles over and over again?

A world with the time to settle in and pursue the big goals in life is a world that is less uptight, anxious, and rushed. People would be less apt to strike out in frustration for the want of squeezing life in before being herded in through the cemetery gates, like so many sheep, and forced to go to sleep for eternity.

Imagine now that, in the year 3010, terrorists are holding children hostage as blackmail so they can obtain a deadly virus held safe in a high-security laboratory. Fighting this terror, working out the solutions to it, is a worthy cause. It’s a great, meaningful, fulfilling, urgent cause, like so many others of the past and present. You are still dead, though. Your bones continue to lie prostrate in a hole while the oppression goes on, sometimes right outside your cemetery. What does it matter? You are dead. You cannot help. One of the terrorists sneaks away into the cemetery with one of the kids during a negotiation. For a time they sit there, right on your grave, the terrorist holding a gun to the child’s head, waiting for the right time to try to make this negotiation. What are you going to do about it? The kid is killed; the hostage-taker escapes, but still dies of time’s ravages 30 years later. Time moves on, and new situations arise. Had history taken a different path, the child might have survived, the hostage-taker might have instead become a peaceful and respectable individual, and you could have influenced the situation for the better. But what does it matter to all of you who lived in the early 21st century? You are all dead. You could all still be there, working for life-affirming organizations, developing and pursuing more of your goals. You could receive accolades for the help you contributed to the defeat of terrorists and tyrants. With more virtuous people like you alive, the kidnapped child would have had greater odds of being saved; the terrorist would have had a greater chance of being brought to justice, and would have had a harder time becoming a terrorist in the first place.

There are many causes that need people like you in the future, many that rise or fall depending on the aid they get. Progress can be made or broken depending upon the numbers, experience, insight, and support available. Our deaths harm every worthy cause, but our continued lives bring about greater odds for the success of every single one of them. This is why this cause is bigger than all of the others combined: it is all of those other causes combined. For this reason, it is vital for you to stand up with the movement for indefinite life extension.

One person can do one year’s worth of work in one year, but one billion people can do one billion years’ worth of work in one year.

Don’t be the naysayer on the sidelines, telling John F. Kennedy that his aspiration to send people to the moon by the end of the decade is too big. Don’t be that pessimist in the crowd, talking about how Martin Luther King, Jr., will never be able sway the bigots.

Get on the front lines and keep charging forward with the Ending Aging cavalry. With the weight of the world, the shackles of death and decay are going to break. It’s not a matter of if; it’s a matter of when. Don’t let indefinite life extension happen the week after you die. Get on board and help us make it happen a decade ahead of schedule.

The world is waiting. Join the network through ImmInst.org.

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