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Free Speech Here Depends On Having A Penis?
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17 August 2014
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Longecity Moderator Cryonicsculture is disappearing my threads from the forum regularly. The disappeared posts are on target and not abusive. Threads are especially targeted if I bring up a women's point of view. Caliban may also be disappearing my threads from the Forum Issues section.
If you have an opinion on that feel free say something. Longecity's Board of Directors screen names are: s123, Caliban, Mind, Shannon Vyff, Shepard and rwac.
Here's a disappeared thread entitled "Recommend Commonsense Feedback"
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Longecity Board of Directors
Greetings,
Thank you for serving on the Board. Having spent two years heavily using the site, I hope for the return of the common sense feedback system that was here when I got here. If you wanted to respond to something someone said, you posted something on the thread or blog post in your own name. This encouraged people to think before they posted. When people didn't have anything constructive to say, they often said nothing, especially about a personal post. That was best.
I also found the star system as it was used at that time to be helpful. I've studied supplements for thirty-five years. I've made my own supplements. I call supplement companies to ask them questions. I had five stars, as did some with doctorates or superior knowledge. Our voices carried over those of disturbed teenagers. After that system was undone, I had to work twice as hard to be heard half as much. Some of us had the unsettling experience of having a young man who was in and out of a mental institutions being the preferred source of information about a man's girlfriend's gynecological problem. He barked out nonsense in a very authoritative fashion. He probably learned how doctors talk from being institutionalized so many times. He posted about this later. I believe he had probably never been intimate with a woman.
At the time the star system was first instituted, I think it was primarily used by administrators because no one else understood it. Those running the site then probably voted the knowledgable ones up. I'm not aware of anyone voting anyone down, if they had that capacity. I wish we could replicate that dynamic. I recommend that the administrators vote stars to people or their posts. Perhaps selected others could vote stars to people or posts, like people with stars themselves? And no one could vote anything down.
I've gotten negative feedback on the new system for questioning people injecting things they bought on the internet into themselves [ill-informed]. We know from experience that addicts and misogynists vote down posts that question their beliefs, sometimes going through unrelated posts by that person and voting them down too. A guy got negative feedback on the new system for working on his supplement stack [pointless]. When I first saw it, this pro-rape post by The Fountain had received one like and one dislike:
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TheFountain Re: Take Responsibility For Your Problems with WomenPosted 17 June 2014 - 02:37 PM
I am tired of hearing about what women want. What about what we hairy testicled man beasts want for a change?
This entire life is about what women want. I say take the reigns and take control of that bitch!
No more games! No more maimed man apes! Take it, own it, stick it, restrict it! And then let it up for some air so it can be reminded who the boss is.
Who agrees?
Posts not even as bad as this recently caused another female contributor to tell me she was leaving.
Anonymous feedback on a site with so many disturbed people has not worked out. We saw this with the last anonymous system where I, as a vocal female, went from having five stars to having perhaps the worst "reputation" while remaining exactly the same. I suddenly found myself wearing an unearned dunce cap due to other people's disturbances. That sucked. Women already have a hard time at this site and are under-represented. While the graphics are attractive, unfortunately the new system has already increased the number of unpleasant experiences and the difficulty of using this site productively. What makes any site attractive is having more good experiences than bad ones. I feel that system in place a few years ago did that best. As one of the most active site users, I recommend that the new system be scrapped entirely. Common sense was the best system.
I remain available to act as a moderator. There are often no active female moderators.
Thank you for your consideration.
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Sent 07 August 2014 - 04:49 PM
[From Cryonicsculture] Hi Luma,
Your letter will be addressed by the board [Most of them have not read it. Caliban seldom reads my messages at all]. However, please realize that the post in question was removed when it was reported and the poster was warned. Prompt reporting of such posts ensures that problems like these don't continue. [That hasn't been true]
The original topic had it's own problems and has been removed as it contained several command negatives which are abusive towards men and the topic did not constructively address any issue and could only be expected to generate trauma and negativity. Virtually every post in the topic was problematic in some way or another. Neither the topic or the responses seemed salvageable. . . .
Thanks for your understanding,
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Another administrator found both the disappeared posts to be valid and not in violation of the rules.
For the record, what my original post on the "Take Responsibility For Your Problems With Women" thread said was:
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Sent 26 July 2014 - 06:48 PM
[From Cryonicsculture in response to something I posted on the Forum Issues section]
. . . If you have a complaint, don't tell the community,[why not?] tell the reporting system. Then we'll actually know what you're talking about and be able to take care of things. [Reporting things through the system often has no result. I report abusive posts to individual moderators, as I did that one. That post may be removed, but there may be a larger issue that needs to be discussed] I'm going to delete any complaints you post in the forum and if I have to, I'll put you on moderation. By not going through the appropriate channels, you're attacking forum management with libel.
Thanks,
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[The comment about libel is just not sane.]
I have concerns about Cryonicsculture's mental health and the impact he has on the site by having him as a moderator. He is censoring and silencing women due to what appear to be personal issues.
Is that o.k. with you?
Make a copy of this post and repost it, if necessary.
If you have an opinion on that feel free say something. Longecity's Board of Directors screen names are: s123, Caliban, Mind, Shannon Vyff, Shepard and rwac.
Here's a disappeared thread entitled "Recommend Commonsense Feedback"
____________________________________
Longecity Board of Directors
Greetings,
Thank you for serving on the Board. Having spent two years heavily using the site, I hope for the return of the common sense feedback system that was here when I got here. If you wanted to respond to something someone said, you posted something on the thread or blog post in your own name. This encouraged people to think before they posted. When people didn't have anything constructive to say, they often said nothing, especially about a personal post. That was best.
I also found the star system as it was used at that time to be helpful. I've studied supplements for thirty-five years. I've made my own supplements. I call supplement companies to ask them questions. I had five stars, as did some with doctorates or superior knowledge. Our voices carried over those of disturbed teenagers. After that system was undone, I had to work twice as hard to be heard half as much. Some of us had the unsettling experience of having a young man who was in and out of a mental institutions being the preferred source of information about a man's girlfriend's gynecological problem. He barked out nonsense in a very authoritative fashion. He probably learned how doctors talk from being institutionalized so many times. He posted about this later. I believe he had probably never been intimate with a woman.
At the time the star system was first instituted, I think it was primarily used by administrators because no one else understood it. Those running the site then probably voted the knowledgable ones up. I'm not aware of anyone voting anyone down, if they had that capacity. I wish we could replicate that dynamic. I recommend that the administrators vote stars to people or their posts. Perhaps selected others could vote stars to people or posts, like people with stars themselves? And no one could vote anything down.
I've gotten negative feedback on the new system for questioning people injecting things they bought on the internet into themselves [ill-informed]. We know from experience that addicts and misogynists vote down posts that question their beliefs, sometimes going through unrelated posts by that person and voting them down too. A guy got negative feedback on the new system for working on his supplement stack [pointless]. When I first saw it, this pro-rape post by The Fountain had received one like and one dislike:
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TheFountain Re: Take Responsibility For Your Problems with WomenPosted 17 June 2014 - 02:37 PM
I am tired of hearing about what women want. What about what we hairy testicled man beasts want for a change?
This entire life is about what women want. I say take the reigns and take control of that bitch!
No more games! No more maimed man apes! Take it, own it, stick it, restrict it! And then let it up for some air so it can be reminded who the boss is.
Who agrees?
dislike x 2
like x 1
Posts not even as bad as this recently caused another female contributor to tell me she was leaving.
Anonymous feedback on a site with so many disturbed people has not worked out. We saw this with the last anonymous system where I, as a vocal female, went from having five stars to having perhaps the worst "reputation" while remaining exactly the same. I suddenly found myself wearing an unearned dunce cap due to other people's disturbances. That sucked. Women already have a hard time at this site and are under-represented. While the graphics are attractive, unfortunately the new system has already increased the number of unpleasant experiences and the difficulty of using this site productively. What makes any site attractive is having more good experiences than bad ones. I feel that system in place a few years ago did that best. As one of the most active site users, I recommend that the new system be scrapped entirely. Common sense was the best system.
I remain available to act as a moderator. There are often no active female moderators.
Thank you for your consideration.
____________________________________________________________________
Sent 07 August 2014 - 04:49 PM
[From Cryonicsculture] Hi Luma,
Your letter will be addressed by the board [Most of them have not read it. Caliban seldom reads my messages at all]. However, please realize that the post in question was removed when it was reported and the poster was warned. Prompt reporting of such posts ensures that problems like these don't continue. [That hasn't been true]
The original topic had it's own problems and has been removed as it contained several command negatives which are abusive towards men and the topic did not constructively address any issue and could only be expected to generate trauma and negativity. Virtually every post in the topic was problematic in some way or another. Neither the topic or the responses seemed salvageable. . . .
Thanks for your understanding,
___________________________________
Another administrator found both the disappeared posts to be valid and not in violation of the rules.
For the record, what my original post on the "Take Responsibility For Your Problems With Women" thread said was:
When you keep having problems with women, what those interactions have in common is you.
Stop blaming women for your lack of game or your personality disorder.
There are plenty of women looking for men.
Stop railing against the social order. Stop complaining. There are men who aren't attractive, rich or tall who have relationships.
Look at yourself.
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Sent 26 July 2014 - 06:48 PM
[From Cryonicsculture in response to something I posted on the Forum Issues section]
. . . If you have a complaint, don't tell the community,[why not?] tell the reporting system. Then we'll actually know what you're talking about and be able to take care of things. [Reporting things through the system often has no result. I report abusive posts to individual moderators, as I did that one. That post may be removed, but there may be a larger issue that needs to be discussed] I'm going to delete any complaints you post in the forum and if I have to, I'll put you on moderation. By not going through the appropriate channels, you're attacking forum management with libel.
Thanks,
______________________________
[The comment about libel is just not sane.]
I have concerns about Cryonicsculture's mental health and the impact he has on the site by having him as a moderator. He is censoring and silencing women due to what appear to be personal issues.
Is that o.k. with you?
Make a copy of this post and repost it, if necessary.
