First of all, I would like to acknowledge that some of my posts in this thread and possibly in the Alzheimer's protocol thread were correctly marked down as off-topic and/or timewasting when one considers the overall way in which LongeCity forums operate and in particular the highly technical and experimental nature of the threads. Although from a purely ethical standpoint, I would possibly come to a different conclusion, but that is, again, off-topic.
So I took some time to understand what C60 is and isn't, which basically meant trawling through a massive LongeCity thread on the substance as its use and theoretical underpinnings were evolving, because it's not like there's a neat summary of it available anywhere. In fact, Turnbuckle's protocols and summarised thoughts are probably the best starting point for research by complete and utter laymen such as myself. I was also helped by one very friendly member who corresponded with me on this topic via PM and email. So I hope this post and my future posts will be more law-abiding.
My present thinking on this protocol is summarized below—
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2. Filling stem cell pools produces a noticeable improvement in youthfulness, but overfilling them produces no further apparent improvement. Old cells don’t die just because new cells are available. With a pseudo-geometric progression of stem cells via fusion/C60 treatment, just a few cycles of the stem cell protocol may be all that is necessary. Three will make a difference (though it might take weeks to see it), and there may be no further improvement after a few dozen.
3. Eliminating old cells (and not just senescent cells) allows stem cell replacement and restoration of health.
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You are saying that (1) "filling stem cells", i.e. symmetrical division achieved with fusion and (2) "eliminating old cells" is what produces "improvement and youthfulness" and "restoration of health". Yet scores of reports of "miraculous" results by members of these forums over the past five or so years which were made when these two ideas were yet to be developed, i.e. when C60 was taken on its own without regard to stem cell pools and eliminating old cells. I understand that results are achieved from asymmetrical division because it is only new somatic cells which manifest as results, whether it is hair regrowing, wrinkles disappearing or mood improving. Can you please clarify?
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7. The goal is then to increase the apoptosis of somatic cells and to bias their replacement by stem cells from full stem cell pools (#3 above) rather than by somatic cells.
And here I’m a bit up in the air. Could one maximize #7 by stimulating stem cells (ie, C60 without fusion) and stimulating apoptosis at the same time?
I'm not sure what you're saying here. Are you saying that the goal is to replace lost somatic cells with stem cells? But then why C60 without fusion? And, again, ultimately restoration of health will be achieved by stem cell differentiation, not by proliferation and accrual of stem cells, right?
So assuming that I'm just not reading these paragraphs correctly, a further question is: Can it be said that if urgent symptomatic relief is a goal, then it may be a good idea to take C60 without fusion to force proliferation of new somatic cells, and then go back refilling stem cell pools with fusion?
Edited by tolerant, 08 October 2018 - 09:33 AM.