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[katrina]

The skincare junkie being me. Trust me I have likely 5-10 thousand dollars in beauty products at home, I know my skincare. Would like to think it was my supplements that faded the massive sun damage, but it wasn't. Here is my story.

Got a buy one get one free at the Dermstore for a beauty box for like 30 bucks (no longer avail). Each contained a $60 5 oz bottle of NIA24 2% for decollate and arms. The other items in the boxes were icing on the cake.

Was just using this on my arms, and one day realized they were looking shades lighter. So, I decided to conserve it and use it on my decollate and hands only. Didn't give it another thought.

Got my picture taken for my 55th birthday and said WTF? Where is my horrible sun damage I had for decades? Hubby even said, it is definitely going away. And I have before and after pics, but am pic shy in public.

Days ago I tried the cheaper decollate cream on my face and it is looking brighter every day.

I have been using MitoQ for years, and yes it works, but nothing like this at all! I had been using both together by the way. When I run out of Mitoq, the company who has been recently price gouging, I will try NIA24 by itself.

So how much damage did NIA24 reverse on my decollate?
I would have to say so far about 80% of massive damage.

Is this permanent?
Seeing how MITOQ works, I would imagine not. It took 6 weeks for optimal results and 6 weeks for my skin to go right back to how it was after discontinuing it.

Will I stop using NIA24 to see what happens?
Not a chance. But I am going to purchase the 5% face cream.

[katrina]

Just wanted to show you what I am going to buy. You get rock bottom prices at LovelySkin. The Dermstore (subsidy of Target) tends to have expired products. I fully expect the decolette cream I used from the Dermstore was in fact outdated. So imagine how fresh stuff would work?


NIA24 Intensive Recovery Complex $95 on sale. This is my choice because it contains 5% Myristyl Nicotinate, tripeptides and retinyl palmitate. I would suggest using this at night.

https://www.lovelysk...ecovery-complex

Aqua (Water,​ Eau),​ Butyrospermum Parkii (Shea) Butter​,​ Myristyl Nicotinate​,​ C12-15 Alkyl Benzoate​,​ Caprylic Capric Triglyceride,​ Glycerin​,​ Pentaerythrityl Tetracaprylate/Tetracaprate​,​ Propanediol​,​ Glyceryl Stearate​,​ PEG-100 Stearate​,​ Cetyl Alcohol​,​ Ethylene/Acrylic Acid Copolymer​,​ Squalane​,​ Hydrogenated Ethylhexyl Olivate​,​ Dimethicone​,​ Tribehenin​,​ Myristyl Myristate​,​ Arachidyl Alcohol​,​ Arachidyl Glucoside​,​ Saccharide Isomerate​,​ Jojoba Esters​,​ PEG-10 Phytosterol,​ Behenyl Alcohol​,​ Sodium Hyaluronate​,​ Glycyrrhiza Glabra (Licorice) Root Extract​,​ Ammonium Acrylodimethyltaurate/VP Copolymer,​ Acrylamide/Sodium Acrylodimethyltaurate Copolymer,​ PEG-40 Stearate​,​ Isohexadecanol,​ Mangifera Indica (Mango) Seed Butter​,​ Parfum (Fragrance)​,​ Aloe Barbadensis Leaf Juice Powder​,​ Tocopheryl Acetate​,​ Ceramide-3,​ Zingiber Officinale (Ginger) Root Extract​,​ Hydrogenated Olive Oil Unsaponifiables,​ Palmitoyl Hexapeptide-12​,​ Ascorbyl Palmitate​,​ Aminomethyl Propanol​,​ Ceramide-2,​ Retinyl Palmitate​,​ Disodium EDTA​,​ Xanthan Gum​,​ BHT​,​ Phenoxyethanol​,​ Benzyl Alcohol​,​ Chlorphenesin​,​ Boric Acid​,​ Sorbic Acid​.

Edited by katrina, 20 August 2018 - 06:12 PM.

[katrina]

Just to let you know, I also go heavy on the tripeptides. And have several favorite products. (Trust me, I am wrinkle free at 55.)

Dr Dense triple strength wrinkle smoother is very inexpensive for its wallop with 3 times industry standards of tripeptides.

Sciote peptide eye cream also contains snakepetide and it does relax things and is my go to for the eye area. I use this at night.

I am trying Dr Brandt triple peptide eye cream for my day ritual when it arrives in Sept. I got this $90 eye cream for $19 a jar as an add on to my FabFitFun beauty box. Can't wait to try it. Oh and I suggest this beauty box if you are into skincare. The addon offers for skincare are amazing! Plus you get many full sized beauty products in your box also.

[katrina]

Just thought of something. I can get I think 3 free mini FabFitFun trial boxes for folks and you just pay shipping. Message me if you want them.

If you buy a year you get first dibs on the addons. If an addon you like is sold out, add it to your favorites and keep refreshing your favorite page. Folks add and remove stuff from their carts nonstop. Anything in your cart on a certain day is yours so don't leave anything in your cart you don't want.

PS men can use skincare too. Why not?

Edited by katrina, 21 August 2018 - 07:58 AM.

[katrina]

Oh and I have been using this recently. I noticed a difference in my skin with a trial bottle I got. Left the trial bottle sit well over a year thinking it was toner. Slaps head.... Coincidentally it contains niacinamide. Ah ha.... Be careful, they have another version that is similar but not as good. The not as good version has moist in the name.

Missha Time Revolution The First Treatment Essence (150ml)

https://www.misshaus...ence-150ml.html

Cranberry is excellent also. May I suggest June Jacobs cranberry cleansor for your AM wash with a buff puff. And Arcona cranberry toner rocks. I did not purposely choose cranberry, the products just worked great. There must be something to cranberries.

https://timesofindia...ow/21162130.cms

Edited by katrina, 21 August 2018 - 08:33 AM.

[bosharpe]

What brands/products make your top ten list. Which one's couldn't you be without and what would you recommend for sagging and pores?

 

Great thread by the way.  

[katrina]

What brands/products make your top ten list. Which one's couldn't you be without and what would you recommend for sagging and pores?

Great thread by the way.

Thank you! My skin is very receptive to positive changes with skincare. Makes me the perfect lab rat.

I think a top 4 makes a list more meaningful. Because I HAVE TO HAVE THESE.

NIA24
Sciote tripeptide eye cream
mitoq (may be leaving the list)
Dr Brandt needles no more

I previously didn't mentiin the Dr Brandt needles no more. This is my go to for a spot that is threatening to wrinkle. I use it sparingly in those spots only and a bottle lasts me a year or so. Lovelyskin.com makes the cost less painful.

Sagging... Try the Needles no more, Nia24, Arcona toner, skin brushing and chew gum.

Pores... Try the Origins charcoal mask to clean them out which will shrink the pores over time. Once again use the Arcona toner.

[katrina]

The thing is Bosharp, I use everything I have mentioned in this topic, and they make the most impact out of everything I have tried. Its the package deal that makes my skin so nice.

Let me explain my lifelong skin philosophy. Take a cotton sheet for example. The longer it is allowed to wrinkle the harder it is to get rid of the wrinkles. You need to attack each new wrinkle as it starts. Don't let them get set in their ways, and don't give up. I reversed my first wrinkle over 15 years ago and it never came back.

Part of wrinkle defense is scrubbing my face and body well every day with a buff puff and very very hot water. Gotta get that dry wrinkle prone layer off. And I exfoliate at least once a week.

Many skin specialists say to never scrub the face. I have been using a buff puff (and not the gentile face one) since my teen years and have zero wrinkkes at 55. So who is right? Or is my skin just genetically hardy? Dunno...

[katrina]

Skin taping... I invented this. And is perfect for the forehead area. This taping got rid of my first wrinkle. Needles no more wasn't around at the time but helps.

Bedtime ritual until its gone:
A new wrinkle threatens and I apply Needles no more along the line and allow it to dry after rubbing it in well. Then cover it with thick medical tape making certain to pull wrinkle taunt.

[katrina]

Exfoliation... What happens when you exfoliate your face well with say Dr Brandt microdermabrasion (in a tube)? It is shiny and taunt. Sort of like ironing those cotton sheets.

A nice strong lactic acid mask is nice too. Highly recommended by me.

[katrina]

Wanted to add more here. If a makeup item such as powder or concealer settles and creates a wrinkle, don't use it. Find a more moisturizing version. Refer back to my wrinkled cotton sheet comparison. I ran a beauty site, ask me for suggestions.

If something you do, such as squinting, wants to bring out a wrinkle, then don't do it. Wear sunglasses, photograde is best.

Exercise brings oxygen to your skin, and makes you look years younger.

Antioxidants help also. Micronized Transresveritrol with bioperine is my favorite.

I strongly feel that hydrolyzed collagen peptides made my skin younger looking also.

Just used this age guestimator and it says in my June pic at age 55, I looked 39.
https://how-old.net

Edited by katrina, 24 August 2018 - 05:29 AM.

[bosharpe]

Cool! Thanks for the info. What's 'Tapping' and how does chewing gum help? 

 

I'm also curious, do you use sunscreen and which brand?

[katrina]

Supplements are very mportant to my skin antiaging regimen. And today, I am adding MSM (Methylsulfonylmethane). I happen to have a free jar of a joint protection formula that contains this that my collagen peptide provider sent me. Seems like it would pick up where transresveritrol leaves off.

“We did not observe any effect of resveratrol on another inflammation and cancer-related protein, the ECM-degrading enzyme MMP3, whose expression has been reported to increase with senescence.”

https://academic.oup...68/4/371/535398

“Effects of Oral Supplementation With Methylsulfonylmethane on Skin Health and Wrinkle Reduction”
https://www.naturalm...inkle-reduction



My supplements
Maac10 transresveritrol with bioperine
Tru Niagen
Longvida cucurmin
Pterostilbene
Collagen peptides
biotin
zinc
MSM (Just added)

And without doxing my photo, here is a sample of my 55 year old skin 2 days past my 55th birthday.

[katrina]

Cool! Thanks for the info. What's 'Tapping' and how does chewing gum help?

I'm also curious, do you use sunscreen and which brand?

Taping is when you apply a heavy piece of medical tape to a wrinkle while pulling skin taunt. Use this at night especially for a threatening forehead wrinkle. I don't do this all the time, just like once every 5 years for a few weeks when something looks like it is starting to wrinkle.

My principle behind chewing gum is that it enlarges muscles which fills in loose skin.

I use neutrogena 100 spf on hands, arms, and decolette for driving to work. I don't go out in the sun (besides driving) until after dinner and in the shade on days off.

On my face, I usually use a 35-50 spf face formula. Whatever I happen to have at the time I use. I get large trials or inexpensive beauty box addons. Right now I am using a very large sample of the NIA24 sunblock. And have two full sized unopened spares of other brands.

Edited by katrina, 25 August 2018 - 03:14 PM.

[katrina]

In the name of science, here is another sampling of 55 year old skin that I just took. I take care of the backs of my hands and use Mitoq and NIA24 on them. I tan very easily, thus the 100 sunblock. My skin has always been see thru, as far as veins are concerned, since a baby. All Ipad filters/corrections are turned off. It's an over cast day, and is best available lighting in my home. Excuse the muscles, I can't help it. My legs get zero work out at the gym, it's just what they accidentally get.#solid
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Edited by katrina, 25 August 2018 - 09:02 PM.

[katrina]

Sort of feels good to tell my story. Been sneaking in and out of here since 2009 and absorbing it all. Its about time folks see my results. Yes, everything I do has been working, but this most recent regimine has had spectacular results. Yes it works!

Any questions?

Edited by katrina, 26 August 2018 - 05:25 AM.

[recon]

Do you apply sunscreen often?

[katrina]

Do you apply sunscreen often?

Once a day before leaving for work. Just exposed areas such as arms, hands, decollate, and face.

Edited by katrina, 27 August 2018 - 02:00 AM.

[katrina]

My one skin sampling photo disappeared, I think accidentally when a dup post was removed. So here it is again at two days past age 55.
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[bosharpe]

Thanks for the reply! Skincare has really evolved in the last 5-10 years what were you using prior to NIA24/MitoQ etc that preserved your skin so well? Your photo is amazing. 

 

And what brush and brushing procedure do you use?

 

 

Thanks for the reply! Skincare has really evolved in the last 5-10 years what were you using prior to NIA24/MitoQ etc that preserved your skin so well? Your photo is amazing. 

 

And what brush and brushing procedure do you use?

 

 

[katrina]

Besides the formaldehyde in the venting system at work? Lol.. We joke about this preserving us all the time. Maybe the accidental Chloroform and Ether beauty naps helped too. Clonk, zzz.... Near baths in solvents such as chloroform and methyl OH? Lol... They are great at removing permanent magic marker from the skin. Lol.... (Don't do this.)

Back to being serious... Before this recent regimen, a beauty box subscription used to give me every top shelf skin care imaginable. My favorite was 3labs products which were just small sample jars. Anyways this helped me find a replacement for Perlabella hyaluronic acid serum, it was my magic in a box. I cried when I lost this. I had the stores selling out of this when local folks saw my skin.

Went on a natural skincare kick for a very long while. I also gave up all bath and hair products containing sulfides (esp sodium laureth sulfide). Heck even if you used the cheap cult favorite in bath soap vs regular bath bars, you are better off. Cult fav - Yardley shea butter soap for sensitive skin. Walgreens stores carry this.

Giving up sunning at age 30 was the best thing I have ever done. My skin would turn a deep brown and I applied suntan oils and used reflective space blankets. Eh meh gawd.... Rumor is if you avoid the sun, you would never wrinkle.

Skin brushing... I have a cheap dollar store soft hair brush and just rough myself up with it, Lol.. Seriously, I just brush away like there is no tomorrow. Modern thinking is that this promotes collagen production tho they use an actual skin brush. Now refer back to my > 30 years of buff puff use?

I think using transresveritrol over all these years had affected my skin tremendously. If you look at my legs, all they get is mostly lack of sun, buff puff, brushing, and supplements. I don't moisturize them as often as I would like. The skincare for sun exposed areas keep them in line with my legs.

Edited by katrina, 27 August 2018 - 03:18 PM.

[lemonhead]

Skin taping... I invented this. And is perfect for the forehead area. This taping got rid of my first wrinkle. Needles no more wasn't around at the time but helps.

Bedtime ritual until its gone:
A new wrinkle threatens and I apply Needles no more along the line and allow it to dry after rubbing it in well. Then cover it with thick medical tape making certain to pull wrinkle taunt.

 

Not saying you didn't come up with the idea independently, but Frownies were invented in 1889.

 

Silicone scar tape works wonders.

[katrina]

Not saying you didn't come up with the idea independently, but Frownies were invented in 1889.

Silicone scar tape works wonders.

Great minds (and a surplus of medical tape) think alike. LOL...

[Ambrosia]

Hi there , first i want to say your posts are amazing. Exactly what im looking for. Ive started supplementing myself and seem to have a good grasp of the supplement side of life extension, but only starting to explore the skin side of things.

 

Over a short period of 5 years i experienced alot of sun damage and extreme stress damage (been through very high stress in past few years due to multiple events) as a result my facial skin has pre-maturely aged, i look about 10 years older than i am and id like to work on reversing that. In the past i had glowing firm youthful skin i always got compliments from the ladies (i am male) 

 

Based on your posts would you say the following is a good start to begin reversing my skin damage, and have you discovered a permanent reversing method or are you forever dependent on these creams?

 

NIA24 intensive recovery

NIA24 sun damage repair for  decolletage

 

i suffer from: dry skin, sagging cheeks, sagging chin/face, rough textured skin, dark circles under eye, fine lines on forehead and between lip and cheeks. Generally skin looks unhealthyaks 

 

thanks for your help

[katrina]

Well, I am back after being gone a few months. I tend to stop by every few months for a short stint.

OMFG! My skin has gotten even better! I looked in the mirror today and saw a different person. WTF am I accomplishing here?

Stopped the MitoQ but added some other things. Now the skincare is definitely helping but my arms do not get the Nia24. Their skin has improved dramatically.

If you recall, I added the MSM. And the full affects should be showing up just about now. But I also have been adding 1/4 t glycine to my evening tea.

Have also been using inexpensive C ferrulic serum on alternating nights.

Something is happening here.

[katrina]

Ambrosia I have no clue how much of my skin improvements will stay without the NIA24. But I did drop the mitoq and I am good to go.

I also just added a cheap 10% niacinamide serum. Its working darn fast maybe hecause I used the NIA24 all along? I am also going to try and make my own.

My additions avail at Amazon:
Bulk Suppluments glycine 1/4 heaping t in nightly tea
Timreless C E Ferrulic 20%
The Ordinary 10% niacinamide and zinc serum

Also must mention that my skin doesn’t seem to care that it is winter this year. I can’t possibly imagine how good it will look in the warmer weather. This is amazing!

Edited by katrina, 14 February 2019 - 10:25 AM.

[katrina]

Upcoming changes....

 

Tru Niagen just increased their dosage to 300 from 250. So will be starting that new dosage today. Forgot to mention dropping the Misha. Oh and the Dr Brandt eye cream was a flop for me. Nothing near as good as the Sciote.   But I gave it to a man and it did improve his eye area. Speaks wonders about tripeptides tho not as good as my Sciote tripeptide eye cream.

 

Something I am researching....

 

There has been a study and oral niacinamide sirt inhibition may not be so much in vivo vs the in vitro method used in studies. The benefit could end up being greater than a short acting sirt inhibition. This could end up being an inexpensive way of getting additional NAD. Perhaps I could add a pinch (500 mg) of bulk powder to my nightly tea. And then pop an extra 150 pterostilbene capsule. This would he 12 hours away from my morning supplement time. Any thoughts here from anyone?

 

 

Nicotinamide is an inhibitor of SIRT1 in vitro, but can be a stimulator in cells.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...bmed/28417163/o

Edited by katrina, 14 February 2019 - 11:11 AM.

[katrina]

Just letting everyone know that I have another lab rat. My first at age 59 is down about 90 pounds now. He looks about 15 years younger with all the improvements. He is off 3 diabetes drugs too as a result of the weight loss. And lost his erectile issues. He no longer gets out of breath walking a few feet also. Oh and he mows his 1/4 acre hilly lawn again.

The second is 67 years old and is following my regimen 100%. Even down to the skincare. So a perfect one to showcase my regimen. Today he told me he is down 17 pounds so far. And that his skin is improving. His face is sooo smooth his razor slides on it too easy.

Both have before photos in my possession tho I won’t share.

[katrina]

Oh and today a woman who hadn’t seen me for weeks commented that I looked amazing from head to toe. She said my skin is shockingly better than past years.

[katrina]

I never mentioned the hair did I? The biotin increased the amount of hair I have. The MSM doubled the improvements. My hair is now as thick and lush as my young years.

This regimen of mine is to improve my entire body inside and out.