coinperson, the supplement you posted contains so many other things how do you know its the lithium doing anything at all? why not just buy plain lithium orotate and test it? and what does 6mg out of 180 lithium orotate mean?
i might try it again. i used it before to stop drugs and alcohol as i heard it might help. but actually it made me feel like im on some SSRI. meaning, it made me numb and not able to experience pleasure. im pretty sure it does the same for everyone as it is said to prevent suicide. best suicide prevention usually is making you not give a shit or experience any feelings so you dont go crazy. so i think all of you might experience this indifference on it but arent sure exactly.
GABAergic, fair question. #1 I started by only taking Lithium Orotate, but then migrated to the Neurofuzion cause I like the other supplements that are in there. #2 I have been taking all of the other supplements that is in there separately , and never had the awesomeness that is the focus I have today.
Like I stated in my original post, you can get straight Lithium Orotate from the same place, it is here https://www.globalhe...um-orotate.html
All sources of Lithium have elemental Lithium. Lithium is then combined or extracted with something to make bio available. Lithium is impossible to absorb without being bound to another substance, also known as a "mineral transporter." You actually do the same thing with calcium (calcium carbonate vs calcium orotate) http://zeusonmedicin...el-approach.pdf | https://www.consumer...ithium/PREVIEW/ | https://oawhealth.co...act-or-fiction/
So now the question is, what is the best transporter and how much lithium do you get and how much transporter do you need. This is where you get the %elemental lithium vs %Transporter. From my research, you have:
Lithium Carbonate 18.8% elemental lithium
Lithium Citrate 16% elemental lithium
Lithium Aspartate 4.8% elemental lithium
Lithium Orotate 3.83% elemental lithium
https://psycheducati...ithium-orotate/
Just because carbonate has more lithium in it, does not mean you absorb it or make it is better! https://efsa.onlinel....efsa.2009.1187
Not a lot of studies done on absorption of orotates in lithium, but calcium has shown: https://www.ncbi.nlm.../pubmed/2273192 | https://hsionline.co...um-supplements/
Calcium Carbonate 31% absorption
Calcium Citrate 39% absorption
Calcium Aspartate 85% absorption
Calcium Orotate 95% absorption
Similar studies have been done on zinc, magnesium, and potassium (cabonate vs citrate vs orotate)
The crazy thing is what happens with all that unabsorbed stuff? in calcium, It stays in your arteries and hardens them which leads to heart attacks and strokes. https://www.hopkinsm...amage_the_heart
It has been shown that orotates cross the blood brain barrier. "Another form of lithium, called lithium orotate, is preferred because the orotate ion crosses the blood-brain barrier easily. Therefore, lithium orotate can be used in much lower servings (e.g. 5 mg) with remarkable results and no side effects." -Shaheen Lakhan, M.D. "Nutritional Therapies for Mental Disorders"
i was searching for some sources with quality and good reviews and found this; https://www.amazon.c...83&s=hpc&sr=1-4
thats perfect score! and its lithium citrate!? ive never heard of lithium citrate. maybe its not the brand, its the actual content which is a form i have not read about before. did anyone ever try or even heard of lithium citrate? could it be the best version?
Again, absorption in citrate is not even close to orotate among other things...
Edited by coinperson, 15 March 2019 - 11:15 AM.