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[ryukenden]

What supplements do you take for cardiovascular health tk prevent atherosclerosis or general cardiovascuar benefits?

I take green tea, garlic and omega supplements (3,6,7) and sometimes co-enzyme q10 and nattokinase.

[pamojja]

Though not for prevention, but for remission of a walking-disability from PAD (due to a 80% stenosis at my abdominal aorta bifurcation):

 

https://www.longecit...nal-remissions/

 

[Oakman]

Combined with rigorous cardiovascular exercise and recovery, and in conjunction with daily HRV monitoring, some daily supplements I take in consideration of their potential heart/cardiovascular benefits...

 

1. Ubiquinol

2. Fiber

3. Omega-3

4. Magnesium & Potassium

5. L-Carnitine L-Tartrate

6. Allicin (garlic extract)

7. EGCG (Matcha)

8. Oleuropein

9. Phytosterol

10. TMG

11. Pomegranate

12. Ginkgo Biloba

13. Curcumin

14. D-Limonene

15. Ginger / Cinnamon

 

Edited by Oakman, 05 October 2019 - 02:57 PM.

[Dorian Grey]

Sometimes it's not what you take, but what you give.  

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/9737556/

 

An 88% reduction in risk for heart attack simply from donating blood regularly ain't too shabby.  

 

"In a Cox proportional hazards model adjusting for age, examination years and all other predictive coronary disease risk factors, blood donors had a 88% reduced risk (relative hazard = 0.12, 95% confidence interval 0.02-0.86, p = 0.035) of acute myocardial infarction,"

 

Get thee to a blood bank.  The life you save may be your own!  

 

P.S.  Donate only whole blood.  The iron is in the red cells.  Plasma & platelet donation does not lower iron at all. 

Edited by Dorian Grey, 05 October 2019 - 03:46 PM.

[ryukenden]

Though not for prevention, but for remission of a walking-disability from PAD (due to a 80% stenosis at my abdominal aorta bifurcation):

https://www.longecit...nal-remissions/

Thank you

Combined with rigorous cardiovascular exercise and recovery, and in conjunction with daily HRV monitoring, some daily supplements I take in consideration of their potential heart/cardiovascular benefits...

1. Ubiquinol
2. Fiber
3. Omega-3
4. Magnesium & Potassium
5. L-Carnitine L-Tartrate
6. Allicin (garlic extract)
7. EGCG (Matcha)
8. Oleuropein
9. Phytosterol
10. TMG
11. Pomegranate
12. Ginkgo Biloba
13. Curcumin
14. D-Limonene
15. Ginger / Cinnamon

It is a lot. Do you take them daily or do you alternate?

Which cardio exercises do you recommend?

Is it tricky to monitor HRV?

Sometimes it's not what you take, but what you give.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/9737556/

An 88% reduction in risk for heart attack simply from donating blood regularly ain't too shabby.

"In a Cox proportional hazards model adjusting for age, examination years and all other predictive coronary disease risk factors, blood donors had a 88% reduced risk (relative hazard = 0.12, 95% confidence interval 0.02-0.86, p = 0.035) of acute myocardial infarction,"

Get thee to a blood bank. The life you save may be your own!

P.S. Donate only whole blood. The iron is in the red cells. Plasma & platelet donation does not lower iron at all.

Interesting. I will consider it.

Edited by ryukenden, 05 October 2019 - 07:29 PM.

[Oakman]

Thank you


It is a lot. Do you take them daily or do you alternate?

Which cardio exercises do you recommend?

Is it tricky to monitor HRV?


Interesting. I will consider it.

 

From the list, 12 daily, except #2, #4, #5 on days I cycle, which is every 2 or 3rd day usually. I recommend cycling because it's easy to collect/analyse data to show progress & effects of supplement protocols. With a Smartphone and HR monitor you can easily track vectors like, speed, HR, HRV, stamina, and recovery time. I'm fortunate to live in bike friendly community, making cycling an easy and relatively safe addiction.  

 

HRV monitoring is done with a Smartphone and an app, using your camera to record the heartbeat signal (e.g. HRV4Training).  The accuracy is a bit shaky day by day, but the HRV signal becomes clear due to averaging over weeks, months. The effort is well worth it for cardio training. You can (and should) train, then recover your heart muscle just like your arm or leg muscles, with care and a plan.  

Edited by Oakman, 05 October 2019 - 08:07 PM.

[Rocket]

Sometimes it's not what you take, but what you give.

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/9737556/

An 88% reduction in risk for heart attack simply from donating blood regularly ain't too shabby.

"In a Cox proportional hazards model adjusting for age, examination years and all other predictive coronary disease risk factors, blood donors had a 88% reduced risk (relative hazard = 0.12, 95% confidence interval 0.02-0.86, p = 0.035) of acute myocardial infarction,"

Get thee to a blood bank. The life you save may be your own!

P.S. Donate only whole blood. The iron is in the red cells. Plasma & platelet donation does not lower iron at all.

That's one reason why I am a frequent donor. So many benefits from giving blood. Sometimes I even cheat and donate more than every 8 weeks by using other blood services than the RC.

I also use 2 grams of mk4 and ensure to get in rigorous cardio.

I also use prescription atenolol to keep BP low even though I don't have clinically high BP.

Keeping BP low prevents damage that then form plaques.

Edited by Rocket, 06 October 2019 - 12:07 AM.

[Dorian Grey]

That's one reason why I am a frequent donor. So many benefits from giving blood. Sometimes I even cheat and donate more than every 8 weeks by using other blood services than the RC.

I also use 2 grams of mk4 and ensure to get in rigorous cardio.

I also use prescription atenolol to keep BP low even though I don't have clinically high BP.

Keeping BP low prevents damage that then form plaques.

 

Be careful about keeping BP too low. The brain needs a good supply.  

 

https://theconversat...-suggest-122032

 

Clinical studies that have followed older individuals over many years have consistently demonstrated that chronically low blood pressure increases the risk of age-related cognitive decline. 

[ryukenden]

From the list, 12 daily, except #2, #4, #5 on days I cycle, which is every 2 or 3rd day usually. I recommend cycling because it's easy to collect/analyse data to show progress & effects of supplement protocols. With a Smartphone and HR monitor you can easily track vectors like, speed, HR, HRV, stamina, and recovery time. I'm fortunate to live in bike friendly community, making cycling an easy and relatively safe addiction.

HRV monitoring is done with a Smartphone and an app, using your camera to record the heartbeat signal (e.g. HRV4Training). The accuracy is a bit shaky day by day, but the HRV signal becomes clear due to averaging over weeks, months. The effort is well worth it for cardio training. You can (and should) train, then recover your heart muscle just like your arm or leg muscles, with care and a plan.

Thank you. I will look at smart phone and apps.

[Rocket]

Be careful about keeping BP too low. The brain needs a good supply.

https://theconversat...-suggest-122032

Clinical studies that have followed older individuals over many years have consistently demonstrated that chronically low blood pressure increases the risk of age-related cognitive decline.

Yes just keeping lower end of normal rather than higher end. I do too much exercise and take neuroprotective agents for the brain to worry about going too low with BP to affect my brain.

Ultimately its all a balance act with health. Right now while I am "younger" its important to not let damage happen to the cardiovascular system and minimize wear and tear until regenerating tech exists beyond stents and statins.

[Daniel Cooper]

Combined with rigorous cardiovascular exercise and recovery, and in conjunction with daily HRV monitoring, some daily supplements I take in consideration of their potential heart/cardiovascular benefits...

 

1. Ubiquinol

2. Fiber

3. Omega-3

4. Magnesium & Potassium

5. L-Carnitine L-Tartrate

6. Allicin (garlic extract)

7. EGCG (Matcha)

8. Oleuropein

9. Phytosterol

10. TMG

11. Pomegranate

12. Ginkgo Biloba

13. Curcumin

14. D-Limonene

15. Ginger / Cinnamon

 

Oakman -

 

I've always had a suspicion that D-Limonene might be helpful for atherosclerosis (and I've actually taken it for other things), but I've never seen any animal or human studies that show that to be so.  There is a patent out there on using D-Limonene for that purpose, but that's pretty much meaningless since you can get a patent without proving your invention actually works.

 

Are you aware of a study that shows that it is effective.  I'd love to see it as I think it probably *should* help dissolve soft plaques.

[Oakman]

Oakman -

 

I've always had a suspicion that D-Limonene might be helpful for atherosclerosis (and I've actually taken it for other things), but I've never seen any animal or human studies that show that to be so.  There is a patent out there on using D-Limonene for that purpose, but that's pretty much meaningless since you can get a patent without proving your invention actually works.

 

Are you aware of a study that shows that it is effective.  I'd love to see it as I think it probably *should* help dissolve soft plaques.

 

If you google d-limonene and cardiovascular health. that will get what you seek.

 

For example, a couple with studies mentioned...

 

https://www.healthli...tion/d-limonene

 

https://universityhe...-and-much-more/

[Daniel Cooper]

If you google d-limonene and cardiovascular health. that will get what you seek.

 

For example, a couple with studies mentioned...

 

https://www.healthli...tion/d-limonene

 

https://universityhe...-and-much-more/

 

 

How much d-limonene are you taking and do you cycle it?

[Oakman]

I take the Jarrow softgels. They used to be 1g, but lately they switched to 500mgs. So I've taken one a day of it for a few years, occasionally running out and waiting a bit before restarting...not exactly cycling. 

[Mind]

I take Vitamin K, magnesium, D3, nattokinase, berberine, OPC, and pomegranate extracts. All have been proven to reduce plaque (just not conclusively through years of large studies).

 

In addition, I am excited about the new drug in development by Cyclarity: https://www.longecit...larity-in-2024/