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[Dorian Grey]

October was flu shot month, & everywhere I go I'm seeing sick people (Now Nov 4th); mostly bad coughs/bronchitis.  A quick check of the flu activity in my area reports actual influenza activity is quite low.  What's going on?  Why does the local mall suddenly sound like a TB ward?  

 

A history of becoming ill, often with astonishing swiftness shortly after getting the flu shot is one of the most commonly cited reasons in those who no longer get the annual vaccine.  I know this was the case with me.  A brutal cold that went down into my chest for a month, pharyngitis that about drove me to madness, a sore throat that hung around for a month.  Three years running with 3 different issues that developed within 10-14 days of getting my flu shot...  NEVERMORE!  

 

News Flash:  Turns out these folks might not be crazy in thinking the flu shot predisposed other influenza like illness.  

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...pubmed/31504634

 

Evidence that blunted CD4 T cells responses underlie deficient protective antibody responses to influenza vaccines in repeatedly vaccinated human subjects.

 

"Despite the benefits of yearly influenza vaccination, accumulating evidence suggests that diminished vaccine efficacy may be related to repeated vaccination"

 

"We find a striking disparity in their responses, with previously vaccinated subjects exhibiting significantly blunted CD4 T cell responses and diminished antibody responses"

 

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This would seem to support a Canadian study from a few years back, where getting the jab every year actually created a "negative effectiveness" phenomenon.  

 

https://globalnews.c...f-getting-sick/

 

Canadian research published this week (post 2014-15 flu season) has found this season’s flu shot is less effective than previously thought and in some cases may actually increase a person’s risk of becoming ill.

 

The research published in the journal, Eurosurveillance also found the flu shot’s effectiveness diminishes if people received the vaccine 2 years in a row.

 

The study states, ” In particular VE (vaccine effectiveness) against influenza A (H3N2) among those who received the 2014/2015 influenza vaccine without prior vaccination in 2013/14 was higher (43%) than among participants who were vaccinated with the same A (H3N2) vaccine component in both 2013/14 and 2014/15 (- 15 %)”

 

“A negative effectiveness suggests the vaccine made people more susceptible to the flu,” Dr. Dickinson says, “We need to do further research to understand why this has happened.”

 

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A negative effectiveness phenomenon might be particularly ominous in the event of a deadly pandemic like the Spanish Flu of 1918.  Those who've gotten the flu vaccine every year may not respond as well to the pandemic vaccine as those who've abstained from getting the annual flu vaccine for several years.  

 

Here's yet another clue for you all...  

 

2012 study that found: Increased Risk of Noninfluenza Respiratory Virus Infections Associated With Receipt of Inactivated Influenza Vaccine

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC3404712/

 

We randomized 115 children to trivalent inactivated influenza vaccine (TIV) or placebo. Over the following 9 months, TIV recipients had an increased risk of virologically-confirmed non-influenza infections (relative risk: 4.40; 95% confidence interval: 1.31-14.8). Being protected against influenza, TIV recipients may lack temporary non-specific immunity that protected against other respiratory viruses.

 

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So can the flu shot "make you sick"?  Perhaps not, but it does appear to predispose you to both mutated flu virus as well as seasonal non-flu influenza like illness.  

Edited by Dorian Grey, 05 November 2019 - 08:12 AM.