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[albedo]

Massive study from Switzerland on Long Covid, providing much needed clarification on the disease diagnosis and blood biomarkers:

https://www.news.uzh...Long-Covid.html

https://www.science....science.adg7942

 

[Hip]

Another article on the damage that COVID can cause in the brain:

 

How Covid makes you miserable: Scientists discover virus can hijack your happy hormones and shut down their production 

[Hip]

Interesting that the prevalence of myalgic encephalomyelitis / chronic fatigue syndrome (ME/CFS) has shot up since the pandemic. 

 

Most previous studies have found the prevalence of ME/CFS in the general population is around 0.2%, or 1 person in 500.  

 

But according to a new study from the CDC, ME/CFS prevalence in the US in 2021/22 has increased to 1.3%, or 1 person in 77.

[Hip]

Babies born during the pandemic lockdowns have better gut microbiome, and as a consequence, lower rates of allergic conditions, such as food allergies.

 

Only 5% of the pandemic era babies had developed a food allergy by age one, compared to 22.8% of the pre-COVID babies. 

 

Babies born during lockdowns had fewer infections because they were not exposed to germs and bacteria. This meant they needed fewer antibiotics - which kill good bacteria - leading to a better microbiome. 

 

Out of the pandemic era babies, only 17% required an antibiotic by 1 year of age. In the pre-COVID babies, 80% needed antibiotics by 12 months.

 

The lockdown babies were also breastfed for longer, which provided additional benefits. 

 

Professor Jonathan Hourihane, consultant pediatrician at Children's Health Ireland Temple Street and joint senior author of the study, said: 'This study offers a new perspective on the impact of social isolation in early life on the gut microbiome. 

 

'Notably, the lower allergy rates among newborns during the lockdown could highlight the impact of lifestyle and environmental factors, such as frequent antibiotic use, on the rise of allergic diseases.'

 

 

Edited by Hip, 02 March 2024 - 05:28 AM.

[albedo]

COVID-19 vaccines and adverse events of special interest: A multinational Global Vaccine Data Network (Gvdn) cohort study of 99 million vaccinated individuals. Vaccine. Published online February 12, 2024.
https://www.scienced...264410X24001270
 

[Mind]

Almost 4 years after we had substantial data (highlighted throughout this discussion) that COVID (even the original strain) was no deadlier than a bad case of the flu, the CDC finally says we can treat it just like other respiratory viruses.

 

Our public "health" authorities led a world-wide panic when none was warranted. The media was full of constant fear porn - instead of reporting on the facts. Peer-reviewed research was censored and world-leading PhDs were berated, fired, and threatened if they did not go along with the massive fear campaign. What a depressing and sordid episode in the history of medicine.

Edited by Mind, 04 March 2024 - 07:51 PM.

[Hip]

we had substantial data (highlighted throughout this discussion) that COVID (even the original strain) was no deadlier than a bad case of the flu

 

It depends what you mean by a "bad case of the flu".

 

A bad case of the flu would be the Spanish Flu, which was the most deadly pandemic the world has seen since the Black Death. 

 

Yes, the Spanish Flu was worse than COVID.

[Mind]

Another analysis (only a pre-print right now) of the deaths labeled as "from Covid" which were more likely iatrogenic. The evidence of widespread iatrogenic deaths has been noted by several other researchers as well, posted previously.

[Hip]

Another analysis (only a pre-print right now) of the deaths labeled as "from Covid" which were more likely iatrogenic. The evidence of widespread iatrogenic deaths has been noted by several other researchers as well, posted previously.

 

Which online cesspit do you inhabit, Mind, in order to find these total faecal waste items that you post? 

 

Which online shit pool provides you with such nauseating, vomit-inducing bullshit?

 

You do know that any dickhead can upload pdfs to pre-print servers, and this author of this toilet paper, Wilson Sy, an investment analyst, is one hell of a dickhead.

 

The idea that there was no COVID pandemic in the UK, and that all the deaths were due to the palliative drug midazolam is preposterous. 

 

You are insulting the intelligence of readers of this forum.

Edited by Hip, 05 March 2024 - 09:11 PM.

[Dorian Grey]

Which online cesspit do you inhabit, Mind, in order to find these total faecal waste items that you post? 

 

Which online shit pool provides you with such nauseating, vomit-inducing bullshit?

 

You do know that any dickhead can upload pdfs to pre-print servers, and this author of this toilet paper, Wilson Sy, an investment analyst, is one hell of a dickhead.

 

The idea that there was no COVID pandemic in the UK, and that all the deaths were due to the palliative drug midazolam is preposterous. 

 

You are insulting the intelligence of readers of this forum.

 

Manners Hip...  Manners Maketh Man!  (William Horman, headmaster Eton)

[Hip]

Manners Hip...  Manners Maketh Man!  (William Horman, headmaster Eton)

 

I am truly shocked an appalled that anyone would post such garbage on this forum. 

 

I really am flabbergasted, I have never seen such a total pile of shit posted. 

 

Unbelievable. 

Edited by Hip, 05 March 2024 - 09:22 PM.

[DanCG]

 

 

You do know that any dickhead can upload pdfs to pre-print servers, and this author of this toilet paper, Wilson Sy, an investment analyst, is one hell of a dickhead.

 

The idea that there was no COVID pandemic in the UK, and that all the deaths were due to the palliative drug midazolam is preposterous. 

 

The paper purports to be an analysis of publicly available data. This is a task for a statistician. The author seems to be qualified for that.

 

And you are so certain the paper is preposterous because you are a statistician and have analyzed the data? Or is it because this interpretation does not confirm what you have been previously told?

 

That said, it would not surprise me if other statisticians analyze the methods and find errors. This is how scientific discourse is supposed to work.

Edited by DanCG, 05 March 2024 - 11:25 PM.

[Hip]

The paper purports to be an analysis of publicly available data. This is a task for a statistician.  

 

What this preposterous paper claims (on page18) is that the large spike in excess deaths in the UK in April 2020 was due to a deliberate hospital policy of euthanasia, whereby doctors deliberately killed elderly patients by means of the benzodiazepine drug midazolam.

 

The paper claims that none of these elderly people died of COVID, they were all euthanised by doctors. 

 

 

It seems that on this forum, people are happy to post any preposterous nonsense.

[albedo]

https://edition.cnn....bcb95d-49545924

 

let me think a bit to the saying that every cloud has a silver lining ...

[joesixpack]

https://edition.cnn....bcb95d-49545924

 

let me think a bit to the saying that every cloud has a silver lining ...

 

From the article: "But as the authors note, any such change would require testing and regulatory approval, and for that reason, it’s not likely we’ll see the return of four-strain flu shots very quickly. Instead, they say, it will be “more of a long-term goal for improving vaccine effectiveness.”

 

It is nice to see the "authorities" well conduct testing and seek regulatory approval on flu vaccines. Too bad the can't be bothered with those details when changing the Covid 19 vaccines, which are still being given under an EUA, despite the fact that there are now "approved" treatments" for it, and it is being treated like the flu.

 

They don't even bother to try to lie about it anymore, no matter how counterintuitive, or irrational their conduct is.

[Galaxyshock]

Saw this posted on Reddit:

 

COVID-19 Leaves Its Mark on the Brain. Significant Drops in IQ Scores Are Noted

"Research shows that even mild COVID-19 can lead to the equivalent of seven years of brain aging"

 

Quite an anti-nootropic and pro-aging bastard! Thoughts on this?

[joesixpack]

Saw this posted on Reddit:

 

COVID-19 Leaves Its Mark on the Brain. Significant Drops in IQ Scores Are Noted

"Research shows that even mild COVID-19 can lead to the equivalent of seven years of brain aging"

 

Quite an anti-nootropic and pro-aging bastard! Thoughts on this?

 

Early treatment and early cure. Don't trust anyone, take the drugs they do not want you to take.

 

 

Edited by joesixpack, 19 March 2024 - 08:46 AM.

[joesixpack]

Early treatment and early cure. Don't trust anyone, take the drugs they do not want you to take.

 

 

Interesting that their research can pinpoint 7 years of brain aging with Covid, but can't pinpoint how the infection happens, how to prevent it, and how the vaccine does or does not prevent it.

[Mind]

This is a long thread, but recall, I documented the first 100 or so cases of COVID deaths in the US. All were very old or had comorbitities.

 

This never changed throughout the COVID panic. It has been documented several times in this thread, but most people still are unaware that the average age of death from COVID around the world is 80. For several countries it is over 80. The risk of death from COVID is more than a thousand times greater for the very old (just like the flu). Of the deaths among younger people, most were obese and had several comorbitities.

 

There was high quality data/research from very early on in the COVID panic that the mortality rate for people under 70 was a tiny fraction of 1 percent. Yet, US/UK "health" bureaucrats and US national/corporate media led everyone believe that everyone was at the same risk and even claimed the mortality rate was 3.4%.

 

The high death rate early on the in the pandemic was most likely from iatrogenic deaths.

 

 

[joesixpack]

"Misinformation’ specialist apologizes for her Covid-related misinformation and criticism of other doctors"

 

Dr. Allison Neitzle apologized to Dr. Pierre Kory and other FLCCC Doctors for saying they spread misinformation during the Covid pandemic.

 

https://sharylattkis...-other-doctors/

[Hip]

Early treatment and early cure. Don't trust anyone, take the drugs they do not want you to take.

 

I don't think there is any actual evidence for any form of treatment results in any major reduction in long COVID (and presumably a drop in IQ after COVID could be considered a form of LC). 

 

Up to date COVID vaccination only reduces your chances of long COVID by about 30%. 

 

And the SARS-CoV-2 antiviral Paxlovid only reduces your chances by 26%, ref here. 

 

 

 

So like it or not, COVID is going around reducing the IQ of the whole human race. 

[joesixpack]

I know that early treatment with the drugs they do not want you to take works. There is plenty evidence that they work. And there is no risk in taking them. There is a risk in taking the experimental vaccine, which does not work.

 

I don't know about your assertion that Covid lowers the IQ. But, since you have refused the drugs that work, and take extra vaccines, I have to accept that Covid has reduced your IQ.

 

I suggest you utilize the FLCCC vaccine protocol, to try to get your brain back. Here: https://covid19criti...vaccine-injury/

[Hip]

I know that early treatment with the drugs they do not want you to take works. There is plenty evidence that they work. And there is no risk in taking them. There is a risk in taking the experimental vaccine, which does not work.

 

I don't know about your assertion that Covid lowers the IQ. But, since you have refused the drugs that work, and take extra vaccines, I have to accept that Covid has reduced your IQ.

 

I suggest you utilize the FLCCC vaccine protocol, to try to get your brain back. Here: https://covid19criti...vaccine-injury/

 

COVID has definitely lowered my IQ, I can feel it. And it has caused personality change, as well as more fatigue, and more brain fog.

 

But SARS-CoV-2 is not the only virus out there which can cause personality changes and impaired cognition. 

 

It's just that most people are not aware of the fact that viruses can have these long-term permanent effects.

 

 

Any effective antiviral protocol for COVID would likely also work for long COVID, since many researchers believe LC is due to lingering viral reservoirs. I don't mean that the antiviral protocol would just prevent LC, I mean the protocol should be able to treat long COVID that has already manifested. 

 

But I don't know of any LC patient who has improved by the FLCCC antiviral drugs like hydroxychloroquine.

 

One study found some LC patients improve on the antiviral Paxlovid (nirmatrelvir + ritonavir). So this shows that if you use effective antivirals, you can treat LC to a degree. Unfortunately the improvements did not hold once the drug was discontinued (which means you would need to keep taking the drug to maintain benefits, and Paxlovid is expensive).

 

But I don't know any studies or anecdotal stories of LC patients getting better from drugs like hydroxychloroquine.

 

 

 

 

Edited by Hip, 01 April 2024 - 03:52 PM.

[Dorian Grey]

The hypothesis LC may be due to lingering viral reservoirs is certainly possible, but not nearly as plausible as auto-immune issues.  

 

https://www.youtube....miLysQFFOBVVOR0

 

Once one is willing to accept the autoimmune hypothesis, I would think existing drugs that treat autoimmune diseases (lupus / RA) would be one of the first remedies to try.  

 

Hydroxychloroquine is one of the safest immune modulators in use today, so I wouldn't bin this potential just because Trump got a bit excited about it many years ago.  

[Hip]

The hypothesis LC may be due to lingering viral reservoirs is certainly possible, but not nearly as plausible as auto-immune issues.  

 

These two hypotheses are not mutually exclusive, and there is evidence to suggest that what we classify as autoimmune attack on the body's cells may in some cases just be the immune system attacking cells that are chronically infected with a virus or bacterium. 

 

Autoimmunity is definitely linked to viral and bacteria infections; so these infections may be the underlying cause of the autoimmunity.

 

 

A lingering COVID infection may thus be creating both its own specific problems, as well as inducing autoimmunity in the body, which then creates further symptoms. 

 

Many LC patients have POTS, an autonomic disease which increasingly is being seen as autoimmune. So here is a clear example of COVID triggering autoimmunity. And SARS-CoV-2 is not the only virus which can trigger POTS.

 

 

Many ME/CFS patients have POTS along with their ME/CFS; so that indicates comorbid autoimmune disease is often involved in ME/CFS; but whether ME/CFS itself is autoimmune is still open to question. 

 

Hydroxychloroquine is successfully used to treat autoimmune diseases such as lupus, but does not work for POTS, to my knowledge. And it does not have much benefit for ME/CFS in general.

 

 

If there were an effective antiviral for COVID, it would very likely improve symptoms in the ME/CFS form of long COVID. 

 

I am always on the lookout for any antivirals which might be effective for COVID, as I would like to try them, to see if they might improve my long COVID symptoms that I have on top of my ME/CFS.

 

As far as I am aware, hydroxychloroquine does not help long COVID (I have not seen any anecdotal success stories), and this suggests this drug is not a good antiviral; any antiviral effects it may have are too weak to help long COVID patients. 

[Dorian Grey]

Fair enough Hip, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.  If you don't give what is probably the world's most benign & commonly utilized autoimmune tonic a decent trial, you may miss out on a lifesaving tonic for millions of sufferers around the world.  By all means, try Paxlovid, & every other repurposed med that's not going to kill you to try. but don't throw any babies out with the bathwater.  Particularly those that look particularly appropriate in theory / on paper.  

[Hip]

Fair enough Hip, but nothing ventured, nothing gained.  

 

That's true, and I often like to try things on spec, just in case they might help.

 

But in the case of ME/CFS, you find that patients usually report what worked or did not work for them, so you can search forum history for any positive stories.

 

The Phoenix Rising ME/CFS forum for example is 15 years old, and contains a wealth of anecdotes from patients trying out various different treatments. If there are no hydroxychloroquine success stories on these forums, and no studies observing benefits, it suggests the drug may not be helpful for ME/CFS. 

 

Here is one Phoenix Rising thread where ME/CFS patients are reporting their experience with hydroxychloroquine. Some report temporary improvements arising from the drug's anti-inflammatory effects. But it does not seem to be the answer for ME/CFS.

 

Though I read one report on Phoenix Rising of a patient who went into remission after two years of daily mild hyperbaric oxygen sessions, along with hydroxychloroquine 400 mg daily. He is not sure which led to his remission.​

 

I actually tried hydroxychloroquine 200 mg + 50 mg zinc daily for week at one point, but noticed no benefits during that short time, and found it increased depression, which is why I stopped.

[albedo]

A fine surgeon and MD (Prof. Daniel Goldstein) I follow since day 1 posted recently (4/24) US data, stratified by age and vaccination, on Covid mortality, from Oct. 2021 to April 2023 (source ourworldindata.org). I thought you might find it interesting:

 

https://www.linkedin...55073928069120)

 

[Advocatus Diaboli]

Re:post 1498

 

Any idea where in ourworldindata.org Dr. Goldstein found those charts? Personally I'd like to see the charts, claimed to be at a specific link, when I click the link. When I click Dr. Goldstein's link, I see no charts. If the charts are actually somewhere  at  ourworldindata.org then Dr. Goldstein should have linked to the specific page(s) so the reader can look at them in context.

 

A commenter to Dr. Goldstein's post writes:

 

Rick Schutzenhofer, PharmD, BCGP

Dedicated and patient-focused pharmacist looking to make a difference first then make a life!

17h

"For more even comparison, it would be best to keep the increments on the Y axis the same for all graphs. This would more accurately reflect the actual difference, and then show the age groups that were affected more substantially by vaccination. Also need to break out the clinical variables of the people in the age groups to see who benefited the most within any age group."

 

All valid criticisms as to why Dr. Goldstein's post is garbage.

 

[albedo]

 

Re:post 1498

 

Any idea where in ourworldindata.org Dr. Goldstein found those charts? Personally I'd like to see the charts, claimed to be at a specific link, when I click the link. When I click Dr. Goldstein's link, I see no charts. If the charts are actually somewhere  at  ourworldindata.org then Dr. Goldstein should have linked to the specific page(s) so the reader can look at them in context....

 

 

Agree. I lack time to reproduce from ourwordindata.org site his charts. Maybe later I will find the precise links and post them here. In meantime I just collected in one small PDF here his charts:

 deaths by age and vax US april 2024 Goldstein.pdf   1.56MB   7 downloads