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[ryukenden]

Thanks and the article says many including Egcg, curcumin, quercetin being potential Covid-19 inhibitors. I have been taking them currently.

[Charles Thompson]

I just posted this in another thread but it gives a good overview of the evidence. Its got a lot of references you can read up but my takeaway is that despite them having chloroquine, what i really need to focus on is looking at my insulin function - check the research on GDA’s cited here and you’ll see why.

https://www.predator...-immune-support

[ledgf]

New paper shows ivermectin kills SARS-CoV-2 in cell culture. Tens of millions of people take ivermectin anyway... we just need a comparison of virus death rates between users and similar non-users. 

https://www.scienced...5WI-qyeTXo_Eh14

[kurdishfella]

i was asleep then half asleep you know those times you are sleeping but aware somehow. Anyway I starting slowly losing feeling of my hands and feets and my lungs / chest just felt like it stopped or my chest got tight fast couldn't'´t exhale or inhale. But when I woke up I was quickly back to normal and feeling better. Did I stop breathing or could it have been covid 19 making my lungs not work? I don't have trouble breathing at all. it felt just like my lungs acting up for a few seconds. F#CK. I could see inside my room like in 3rd person view as I was half asleep and it was like I was reaching up maybe I wanted to die or trying to survive? Dunno if it was real or just imaginary.

Edited by kurdishfella, 10 April 2020 - 12:38 PM.

[pamojja]

.. in times of such a strong nocebo everone and the whole media is taking about..

[kurdishfella]

I guess I just imagined MY LUNGS STOP WORKING. I LITTERALLY COUDLNT BREATH.And i wwas sleeping so how can it be a nocebo

[pamojja]

Some are even dying from nocebo. The problem people think placebo means ineffective. The opposite is the case, and can be used for benefits or harms.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nocebo

 

Writing from his extensive experience of treating cancer (including more than 1,000 melanoma cases) at Sydney Hospital, Milton (1973) warned of the impact of the delivery of a prognosis, and how many of his patients, upon receiving their prognosis, simply turned their face to the wall and died a premature death: "there is a small group of patients in whom the realization of impending death is a blow so terrible that they are quite unable to adjust to it, and they die rapidly before the malignancy seems to have developed enough to cause death. This problem of self-willed death is in some ways analogous to the death produced in primitive peoples by witchcraft ('pointing the bone')".^[29]

 

[kurdishfella]

I think nocebo and placebo only work on gullible people. Anyway I forgot to mention I hadn't eaten for like 3 days so maybe I was or am low on zinc which is important for immune system.

Edited by kurdishfella, 11 April 2020 - 01:16 AM.

[pamojja]

I think nocebo and placebo only work on gullible people. Anyway I forgot to mention I hadn't eaten for like 3 days so maybe I was or am low on zinc which is important for immune system.

 

As seen in this pandemic, gullible people are the majority. Never looking for but instead always immetiately disparaging investigative jounalism.

 

Beside being simply a faculty of human beings - there are too many unknowns which in everyone gets substituted to some degree with plausible believes - knowing of the power of this effects for both benefits and harm - one actually would be very stupid not to make targeted use.
 

[pamojja]

But when I woke up I was quickly back to normal and feeling better. Did I stop breathing or could it have been covid 19 making my lungs not work? I don't have trouble breathing at all. it felt just like my lungs acting up for a few seconds. F#CK. I could see inside my room like in 3rd person view as I was half asleep and it was like I was reaching up maybe I wanted to die or trying to survive? Dunno if it was real or just imaginary.

 

Actually the way you describe just a beautiful nightmare. It happens quite often in nightmare that it all just becomes too grotesque, and one dreams inside the dream to weak up with super-natural powers, only to wake up again in an other dream.

[xEva]

kurdishfella, this sounds like an out-of-body experience (OBE). According to the lore, this is what one experiences at death. But it was just a dream, which people who believe in this kinda thing could classify as a premonition.

 

A too had an anxiety driven dream. I dreamed that I was lying on a stretcher in a speeding ambulance. The siren was wailing. It was a bright sunny day. I could not get enough air in my lungs and woke up, coz I was suffocating. But I was perfectly fine once awake. For a strange reason I thought it was in the middle of June. I sincerely hope that was not a premonition of my death -- 2 months from now! (the dream was back in March).  Could be the result of falling asleep after reading too much on the subject.

Edited by xEva, 11 April 2020 - 04:10 PM.

[Krell]

NIH study’s focus on antibodies used to measure the extent of undetected transmission

The National Institutes of Health announced that it will look at antibodies to help understand just how far the coronavirus has subtly spread through the population.

In a “serosurvey” analyzing the blood samples of up to 10,000 volunteers, NIH said the presence of SARS-CoV-2 antibodies serve as a sign that the body had encountered the disease and developed a response to it.

 

“An antibody test is looking back into the immune system’s history with a rearview mirror,” Dr. Matthew J. Memoli, the principal investigator of the study, said in a news release. “By analyzing an individual’s blood, we can determine if that person has encountered SARS-CoV-2 previously.”

NIH said the molecular tests that are commonly done by inserting a cotton swab into someone’s nose can identify a current infection, but they can’t tell whether a person was previously infected with COVID-19 and recovered.

 

A positive test for the SARS-CoV-2 antibodies confirms that they already had the disease.

“This study will give us a clearer picture of the true magnitude of the COVID-19 pandemic in the United States by telling us how many people in different communities have been infected without knowing it, because they had a very mild, undocumented illness or did not access testing while they were sick,” according to Dr. Anthony S. Fauci, director for the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “These crucial data will help us measure the impact of our public health efforts and guide our COVID-19 response moving forward.”

 

Healthy volunteers over the age of 18 from anywhere in the U.S. can participate, and will be asked to consent to enrollment over phone.

People with a confirmed history of coronavirus or current symptoms consistent with COVID-19 are not eligible to participate.

 

People interested in joining this study should contact clinicalstudiesunit@nih.gov. For more information, visit ClinicalTrials.gov using identifier NCT04334954.

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I just applied for this trial.

[APBT]

This link provides more details about the aforementioned study:  https://www.niaid.ni...virus-infection

[Rocket]

testosterone will worsen your immune system that's why women have better immune system since they react faster to infections but with testosterone you react slower.
IGF-1/2 can probably help the immune system also along with hgh.

Igf is a waste of money. Will do nothing for you at all.

You need to take either ghrp2 (my fav peptide) or real high, and take either one with dhea to keep insulin sensitivity.

[xEva]

This link provides more details about the aforementioned study:  https://www.niaid.ni...virus-infection

 

 

In case you expect to learn your results:

 

Will individual blood test results be communicated to participants?

Volunteers should not expect a rapid turnaround of their blood test results, as investigators will provide this information only after weeks or months of analysis to confirm the test’s accuracy. After this period, volunteers may be provided with their personal test results upon request to the study team.

 

[Rocket]

Why isn't the NIH using blood from red cross to look for antibodies???? Thousands of people donate each and every day!