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#121 Gal220

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Posted 29 April 2022 - 02:54 AM

What on earth, how is the last post time wasting?  Links comparing jab effectiveness, I mean that is the topic of the thread..

 

Still not as good as my Delta jab + early treatment though 


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#122 joesixpack

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Posted 30 April 2022 - 04:51 AM

This is a cross post from another covid topic. I want to get it out to see if others are concerned by this paper.

 

 

Here is a new paper, it seems to indicate that mRNA vaccines damage the immune system. Please read and let me know what you think.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC9012513/

 

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In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. Immune cells that have taken up the vaccine nanoparticles release into circulation large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites. We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances potentially have a causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell's palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, impaired DNA damage response and tumorigenesis. We show evidence from the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis. We believe a comprehensive risk/benefit assessment of the mRNA vaccines questions them as positive contributors to public health.

 

 

 

 

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#123 Dorian Grey

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Posted 30 April 2022 - 06:29 AM

This is a cross post from another covid topic. I want to get it out to see if others are concerned by this paper.

 

 

Here is a new paper, it seems to indicate that mRNA vaccines damage the immune system. Please read and let me know what you think.

 

https://www.ncbi.nlm...les/PMC9012513/

 

Excerpt (fair use, less than 50%)

 

In this paper, we present evidence that vaccination induces a profound impairment in type I interferon signaling, which has diverse adverse consequences to human health. Immune cells that have taken up the vaccine nanoparticles release into circulation large numbers of exosomes containing spike protein along with critical microRNAs that induce a signaling response in recipient cells at distant sites. We also identify potential profound disturbances in regulatory control of protein synthesis and cancer surveillance. These disturbances potentially have a causal link to neurodegenerative disease, myocarditis, immune thrombocytopenia, Bell's palsy, liver disease, impaired adaptive immunity, impaired DNA damage response and tumorigenesis. We show evidence from the VAERS database supporting our hypothesis. We believe a comprehensive risk/benefit assessment of the mRNA vaccines questions them as positive contributors to public health.

 

 

 

 

I've also heard of T-Cell exhaustion associated with COVID, & assume the same could be true with too many vaccine boosters:

 

https://www.nature.c...423-021-00750-4

 

Activation or exhaustion of CD8+ T cells in patients with COVID-19

 

" In patients with COVID-19, CD8+ T cells exhibiting activated phenotypes are commonly observed, although the absolute number of CD8+ T cells is decreased. In addition, several studies have reported an upregulation of inhibitory immune checkpoint receptors, such as PD-1, and the expression of exhaustion-associated gene signatures in CD8+ T cells from patients with COVID-19."

 

There's also an interesting correlation with the flu shots: 

 

https://www.cidrap.u...ccines-benefits

 

Studies shed light on effects of serial flu shots, current vaccine's benefits

 

"A Canadian study released this week added to the evidence that getting a flu shot 2 years in a row may sometimes result in lower protection against flu the second year"

 

https://www.cidrap.u...eased-h1n1-risk

 

New Canadian studies suggest seasonal flu shot increased H1N1 risk

 

"The studies, which took in about 2,700 people, found overall that the likelihood of needing medical attention for pandemic flu was 1.4 to 2.5 times greater among people who were vaccinated the previous fall."

 

Then there is the infamous correlation between flu shot & (non-COVID / common cold) corona virus infection: 

 

https://pubmed.ncbi....h.gov/31607599/

 

Influenza vaccination and respiratory virus interference among Department of Defense personnel during the 2017-2018 influenza season

 

"Receiving influenza vaccination may increase the risk of other respiratory viruses, a phenomenon known as virus interference. "

 

"Examining virus interference by specific respiratory viruses showed mixed results. Vaccine derived virus interference was significantly associated with coronavirus"

 

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It seems our immune system does not have an infinite capacity for guarding against anything under the sun, and can be "distracted" by too many unnecessary or superfluous influences.  


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#124 joesixpack

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Posted 30 April 2022 - 07:00 PM

Thanks for your thoughtful reply.

 

In the interests of have a complete and fair discussion, Hip replied on the other thread, with this information:

 

 

"The leading author "Stephanie Seneff" is a well-known screwball."

 
If you follow the link you will see that she may be a questionable author. She is with MIT with PHD's in Computer Science and Electrical Engineering.
 
I am not sure this debunks the paper, but in the interest of full disclosure, I thought I should put it out here.

Edited by joesixpack, 30 April 2022 - 07:05 PM.

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