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Regarding the vaccines, I think this is a question we All should be asking as members of a longevity-promoting website.

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#1411 Gal220

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Posted 30 September 2023 - 09:03 PM

Did vaccination work?

https://twitter.com/...114517056524336

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https://twitter.com/...114601701716074

 

"If they worked, why didn't they work before Aug 2021? The high death rates in Germany were 3 months before Japan's - both in line with when vaccinations of the most frail were taking place.

Where's the benefit?"

 

 

Other analysis

https://twitter.com/...074784737599583

https://twitter.com/...133607783416026


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Posted 01 October 2023 - 06:35 PM

Myocardial injury more prevalent than previously thought - From Nakahara in The Journal Radiology

https://pubs.rsna.or...8/radiol.232244 (Editor of the Radiology journal)

 

https://twitter.com/...442697546260899

https://www.igor-chu...mage-all-hearts

 

"The "Dark Hearts" on the PET-CT scans ... That is showing inflammation... of the heart of the mRNA vaccinated.

This is found in the asymptomatic.

 

The study results by Nakahara et al suggest that mild asymptomatic myocardial inflammation could be more common than we ever expected" says Dr Bluemke in the commentary"

 

 

"Unfortunately, the scientists’s chart of SUVmax over time does not show visible improvement during 180 days (half a year):"

 

https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.ama


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#1413 Daniel Cooper

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Posted 02 October 2023 - 02:49 PM

Myocardial injury more prevalent than previously thought - From Nakahara in The Journal Radiology

https://pubs.rsna.or...8/radiol.232244 (Editor of the Radiology journal)

 

https://twitter.com/...442697546260899

https://www.igor-chu...mage-all-hearts

 

"The "Dark Hearts" on the PET-CT scans ... That is showing inflammation... of the heart of the mRNA vaccinated.

This is found in the asymptomatic.

 

The study results by Nakahara et al suggest that mild asymptomatic myocardial inflammation could be more common than we ever expected" says Dr Bluemke in the commentary"

 

 

"Unfortunately, the scientists’s chart of SUVmax over time does not show visible improvement during 180 days (half a year):"

 

https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.ama

 

Obviously this "Dr Bluemke" is some sort of crazed conspiracy theorist.  

 

Probably listens to Alex Jones.

 

On a serious note - if this inflammation is hanging around 180 days after receiving the vaccine, that implies to me that the spike protein production which was supposed to be transitory is likely long lasting - as indeed other studies have discovered in it patient blood 6 months after injection.

 

This is not how mRNA is supposed to work. It's supposed to enter the cells, make spike protein, then degrade and go silent within days. 

 

This means that something is going on with these vaccine that they do not understand. Something is not working the way it is supposed to. 

 

When something like this isn't working how you expect it to - time to stop what you are doing and figure it out.

 

So why in the hell are they still promoting that everyone get boosters, including small children (6 months and older) when covid has clearly become less problematic as it has evolved? What is the scientific rationale behind this? Cleary there is more risk here that was initially anticipated. Why is that not being recognized and why is the government plowing ahead with pushing a vaccine that is clearly not performing as expected?


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Posted 02 October 2023 - 06:02 PM

Obviously this "Dr Bluemke" is some sort of crazed conspiracy theorist.  

 

Probably listens to Alex Jones.

 

On a serious note - if this inflammation is hanging around 180 days after receiving the vaccine, that implies to me that the spike protein production which was supposed to be transitory is likely long lasting - as indeed other studies have discovered in it patient blood 6 months after injection.

 

This is not how mRNA is supposed to work. It's supposed to enter the cells, make spike protein, then degrade and go silent within days. 

 

This means that something is going on with these vaccine that they do not understand. Something is not working the way it is supposed to. 

 

When something like this isn't working how you expect it to - time to stop what you are doing and figure it out.

 

So why in the hell are they still promoting that everyone get boosters, including small children (6 months and older) when covid has clearly become less problematic as it has evolved? What is the scientific rationale behind this? Cleary there is more risk here that was initially anticipated. Why is that not being recognized and why is the government plowing ahead with pushing a vaccine that is clearly not performing as expected?

 

Remember that most of the world is NOT recommending the COVID injections for healthy young people, and certainly NOT for children. The US - which led the funding of the gain of function research - is an extreme outlier in their vaccine policy. The US health bureaucrats are a machine of incompetence that cannot be stopped, apparently. Or they are engaged in unethical and criminal behavior. Two choices that are both bad for US citizens.

 

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Dr. Risch is speaking up again about COVID policies, raising the alarm about the recent rise in cancer rates among young people.

 

Others are doing the work that the CDC and WHO refuse to do, look at excess mortality since the COVID injection rollout and try to determine how many deaths have occurred because of it. This is a tough thing to estimate and they could be off by a lot because of the manipulated statistics being put out by some governments.

 

Then again, maybe the CDC is technically correct in saying there are hardly any adverse events of deaths from the COVID injections, since they changed the definition of "adverse events" back in 2018. Similar to in the early in the pandemic - without warning or debate within the scientific community - they changed the definition of a vaccine to anything that produces a response in the immune system - which also includes things like exercise and sunshine.


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#1415 Daniel Cooper

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Posted 02 October 2023 - 06:26 PM

In the US, covid vaccines have become some sort of quasi-religious cult, at least amongst the health care government bureaucracy. 

 

That and the fact that most of our government tends to run on autopilot - once they issue an edict the tendency is to just go with policy long beyond the point where it makes any sense.

 

 


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Posted 02 October 2023 - 11:28 PM

COVID has shown that many physicians have allowed themselves to be turned into something akin to robots.  They don't seem to have any real autonomy over the practice of medicine.  They do what they are told by faceless bureaucrats who don't see any real patients.  Because as a profession they failed to stand up for the values of their profession, physicians have set themself up for replacement by low-cost AI.  A human taught to behave like a machine can't possibly compete with AI.  Healthcare should improve with AI, but it won't as good as it would have been were caring and critical-thinking MDs to work side by side with AI.  


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Posted 03 October 2023 - 03:04 AM

COVID has shown that many physicians have allowed themselves to be turned into something akin to robots.  They don't seem to have any real autonomy over the practice of medicine.  They do what they are told by faceless bureaucrats who don't see any real patients.  Because as a profession they failed to stand up for the values of their profession, physicians have set themself up for replacement by low-cost AI.  A human taught to behave like a machine can't possibly compete with AI.  Healthcare should improve with AI, but it won't as good as it would have been were caring and critical-thinking MDs to work side by side with AI.  

 

BINGO!  We have a winner!  I've told my GP half a dozen times he's wasting his breath trying to get me on statins, & flu shots, covid boosters etc, but he just keeps on begging.  It's embarrassing; he's almost like a little kid begging his mom to buy him a toy in the store.  

 

I'm interested in A1-C, CRP, ferritin, & GGT when I get blood labs done, but it's like pulling teeth to get him to do these.  When I got prostatitis, I wanted to try fosfomycin rather than Cipro or sulfa, but he was dead set against this.  I managed to see a urologist I had worked with in surgery, & he humored me with a scrip for fosfo, which worked great.  

 

I'm almost tempted to go across the border to Mexico for my healthcare.  At least doctors there are customer oriented, & free to prescribe pretty much anything you want.  


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Posted 03 October 2023 - 05:41 PM

BINGO!  We have a winner!  I've told my GP half a dozen times he's wasting his breath trying to get me on statins, & flu shots, covid boosters etc, but he just keeps on begging.  It's embarrassing; he's almost like a little kid begging his mom to buy him a toy in the store.  

 

I'm interested in A1-C, CRP, ferritin, & GGT when I get blood labs done, but it's like pulling teeth to get him to do these.  When I got prostatitis, I wanted to try fosfomycin rather than Cipro or sulfa, but he was dead set against this.  I managed to see a urologist I had worked with in surgery, & he humored me with a scrip for fosfo, which worked great.  

 

I'm almost tempted to go across the border to Mexico for my healthcare.  At least doctors there are customer oriented, & free to prescribe pretty much anything you want.  

 

Same thing with my former GP. Ture story. He wanted me to go on statins. I told him no. He said that if I didn't go on the statins he would get poor reviews ("bad marks") from the hospital bureaucracy. This doctor would get promoted and get good marks if people followed (the hospital bureaucracy's) recommendation to get on big pharma drugs.

 

I guarantee there is pressure from "the bureaucracy" to get people on the COVID booster schedule as well.


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Posted 03 October 2023 - 08:41 PM

Same thing with my former GP. Ture story. He wanted me to go on statins. I told him no. He said that if I didn't go on the statins he would get poor reviews ("bad marks") from the hospital bureaucracy. This doctor would get promoted and get good marks if people followed (the hospital bureaucracy's) recommendation to get on big pharma drugs.

 

I guarantee there is pressure from "the bureaucracy" to get people on the COVID booster schedule as well.

 

Whether my doctor gets a "gold star" or a "smiley face" next to his name in his permanent record is really low on my list of priorities when I engage with the medical profession.


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Posted 06 October 2023 - 05:40 AM

CDC shuts down reporting...

https://twitter.com/...703327812854150

https://twitter.com/...704440385564871

https://twitter.com/...706108913189308

 

"The CDC decides to no longer publish US Excess Mortality Data, when it was not going away and was rising for a third straight year.

 

Therefore, make access go away. Here was our final chart using the old system. 4,200 excess deaths in wk 37. 601,000 excess deaths, and rising."


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Posted 06 October 2023 - 03:12 PM

If that graph is accurate and non-covid excess deaths are continuing to rise that certainly bears explanation. 

 

If the CDC is no longer publishing it that is troubling to say the least. Doesn't give one a warm feeling that they are being transparent.

 

 

 


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Posted 08 October 2023 - 05:56 PM

Apparently, the child who starred in the original COVID injection propaganda campaign has died - of a heart attack - a known adverse side effect of the COVID injections. This is from Israel. It sounds too ironic to be true. Can anyone independently confirm it?


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Posted 10 October 2023 - 03:47 PM

He is not the only poster child

Link1, Link2

 

"These two boys who were the poster children to run out and get ourshot and be superheroes, both passed away within 12 months of each other. WHERE IS THE RECALL?"

 

 

And

Link3

"Sweden and Germany: No Deaths In Children Due to Covid BY PAUL ELIAS ALEXANDER DECEMBER 8, 2021"

 

Link4

"According to officials of Finland there were 0 covid deaths of under 20 yo in 2020. And only 8 deaths in a age group below 50 years! Total covid deaths in Finland was aprx 600 with average age of 84 years. Over 95% of the covid deaths had some other illnesses."

 

 

It really is just a money grab, at the expense of these children's health


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Posted 10 October 2023 - 04:30 PM

Now that only a small percentage of people are taking the latest COVID injections, I wonder if doctors will walk out in protest again - protesting all the dumb anti-vax people - which is basically every country in the world outside the US. No other country is pushing the COVID injections for everyone all the time like is occurring in the US.

 

Will US politicians and media personalities keep calling for quarantine camps and re-education for all the people not taking the latest booster? (over 80% of the country).

 

I doubt it, because health leadership in the US is incompetent and unethical.

 

The US government is so incompetent that they are now suing some employers for NOT allowing exemptions for COVID vaccination - when the government was trying to force the COVID injections on everyone (which they are now lying about)

 

There are legitimate reasons why people increasingly distrust the US health bureaucracy and vaccines - refusing to release public data is just one of them.

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Amazing to see a recall of a popular drug due to contamination while the COVID injections are not even on the FDA's radar despite multiple researchers from multiple countries finding a wide array of contaminants in the COVID injections


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Posted 13 October 2023 - 06:29 PM

Approximately 49 out of 50 Americans are now "stupid evil antivax conspiracy nuts". Almost no one is getting the latest booster. Even Paul Offet is NOT getting the latest booster (what a crazy anti-vaxxer he is!!)

 

Why?

 

Many people see the rise in heart attacks, strokes, cancer, etc... When young healthy people are keeling over (including more athletes than ever before), it will tend to make them hesitant.

 

Everyone who got the first doses still got COVID. Many were hospitalized and died.

 

People saw the peer-reviewed Cleveland Clinic study that shows the more boosters, the more likely you are to get COVID.

 

People now know the IFR from COVID is incredibly small and barely even a concern for young adults.


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Posted 14 October 2023 - 01:02 PM

There are some evidence vaccine was helpful for the first type of COVID (lets say till 2021 end), and for people "virgin" that had not before contact with the virus... Spikes (that are toxic) are created by vaccine but also by the virus itself (what create more ???). So if the immunitary system was not yet before in contact with the VIrus it had sense to vaccinate (IMHO). But aftere some time when virtually everyone had a contact with the virus the benefits of vaxinate was much less or nothing. FOr very old or sick people is different of course.


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#1427 adamh

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Posted 14 October 2023 - 11:53 PM

Here is a conspiracy theory for you and it might just be true. What if the big shots in the world, the oligarchs who control the media and control everything or try to, what if they decided to thin the herd? What if they came up with a plan to eliminate a couple billion of what they consider to be "useless eaters".

 

They might even have had good intentions, though killing millions or billions seems kind of evil. They probably told themselves it would fix pollution, stop over population, ease pressure on natural resources, and give everyone more room to live. Its pretty easy to convince yourself the ends justify the means when you don't have to pay the price.

 

How else could anyone explain the cover up of all evidence that pointed to harm? When has a shot ever been given to the public on such a massive scale that was never properly tested. My god, you can't get a new drug past the fda without millions of dollars of testing and often years go by before they make a decision. But here it was rushed through without any testing unless you count the lab animals who died when exposed to covid after the shot, which is a negative outcome but they didn't seem to care

 

Fauci and big pharma were certainly behind it as well as the bilderberg crowd. They organized a media blitz to terrify everyone about covid which is not actually that bad, its no worse than the flu according to many data points. Did you know that up to 120,000 people died in one year in usa from the flu and nothing else? But no one was forced to take a shot or lose their job or be censored by the government for it. 

 

I say this was a psyop and a plan to eliminate up to 1/2 the world population. The covid was not that deadly but the vaccine was. We will not know for decades to come the real toll it took on the people of the world. People who took it at 30 might die at 40 or 50 who would have lived a much longer life. But that won't show up for years


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Posted 15 October 2023 - 12:03 PM

How else could anyone explain the cover up of all evidence that pointed to harm? When has a shot ever been given to the public on such a massive scale that was never properly tested. My god, you can't get a new drug past the fda without millions of dollars of testing and often years go by before they make a decision. But here it was rushed through without any testing unless you count the lab animals who died when exposed to covid after the shot, which is a negative outcome but they didn't seem to care

 

The present cover-up is what I find most troubling.  I think too much information is now available about the risks of the vaccines for it not to be shared and acted upon.  To continue ignoring it would seem to require an utter disregard for the public welfare.  

 

But I wonder, could this cover-up not alternatively be explained by the perpetrators' own fears of facing the wrath of the people they injured through their recklessness?  

 

Except that the cover-up appears to be just as coordinated as the original vaccine push.  I would think if the perpetrators had good intentions, at least some of them would decide it's better to come clean about their mistakes knowing this would help prevent causing further injury to people.  Instead, the world's public officials march in lockstep. The media won't look at the issue.  Tech companies continue to censor information.  And the pharmaceutical companies deny the mRNA are unsafe. 

 

What we have is a pointless new booster recommended even for infants.  How to make sense of cover-up related decisions made at high levels and the ongoing complicity of so many institutions?  


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Posted 16 October 2023 - 05:00 PM

The entire 20th Century we worked at extending the lifespan of the general population.  Now we've got a huge wave of retired boomers to support, particularly in China due to their 40 year one child policy.  

 

Heart disease is already the #1 killer of seniors, and what better way of reducing lifespan than by accelerating heart disease?  Blame it on the virus, or blame it on the vaccines; either way the public is unlikely to ever make the connection this might all be by social design to eliminate excess non-productive eaters.  


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Posted 16 October 2023 - 07:59 PM

The present cover-up is what I find most troubling.  I think too much information is now available about the risks of the vaccines for it not to be shared and acted upon.  To continue ignoring it would seem to require an utter disregard for the public welfare.  

 

But I wonder, could this cover-up not alternatively be explained by the perpetrators' own fears of facing the wrath of the people they injured through their recklessness?  

 

Except that the cover-up appears to be just as coordinated as the original vaccine push.  I would think if the perpetrators had good intentions, at least some of them would decide it's better to come clean about their mistakes knowing this would help prevent causing further injury to people.  Instead, the world's public officials march in lockstep. The media won't look at the issue.  Tech companies continue to censor information.  And the pharmaceutical companies deny the mRNA are unsafe. 

 

What we have is a pointless new booster recommended even for infants.  How to make sense of cover-up related decisions made at high levels and the ongoing complicity of so many institutions?  

 

Yes, the more I look at it the more it looks deliberate, at least by some of the participants. I think most of us went through a similar process of evaluating the shot. At first it sounded good because we heard all that fear porn about how terrible covid is. It turned out that covid was just a bad flu, but we didn't know. 

 

Then we heard that it wasn't tested, was rushed through. That didn't sound good. And then we started hearing about the side effects and deaths. Long about then they started mandating it, illegally, and people were fired from their jobs for not taking it. Some were later rehired and given back pay but many were forced into the shot.

 

I agree that its even more suspicious that they are still covering it all up years after the truth leaked out. Anyone can make a mistake but this was no mistake and continuing the coverup years after doctors and scientists started blowing the whistle is the exact opposite of what we would expect and what has always been done in the past when a drug turned out to be dangerous

 

Thalidomide was a drug introduced in the 50s to treat various conditions including leprosy. It turned out to cause severe birth defects and was taken off the market a few years later when cases began to turn up. It was blocked in the usa by the fda which at that time at least, seemed to be doing its job. There was never any cover up and the facts were published. 

 

According to the FDA, a “drug is removed from the market when its risks outweigh its benefits. A drug is usually taken off the market because of safety issues with the drug that cannot be corrected, such as when it is discovered that the drug can cause serious side effects that were not known at the time of approval.” 

 

The monitoring and controls were supposed to be more robust after thalidomide and a number of drugs were pulled from the market after serious side effects became known. However in this case, the doctors and scientists who came forward with the information were attacked and silenced. The media called them vaccine deniers and science deniers despite the fact it was not a vaccine and science was disregarded in its production and approval

 

This has never happened before to my recollection. Since when did government, the top medical establishment and the media work together hand in glove to force something untested on the public? The flu shot is optional, the polio vaccine, rabies etc are all voluntary and they, unlike the covid shot, had been thoroughly tested before being given. The goal seems to be to reduce the population


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Posted 16 October 2023 - 08:14 PM

The entire 20th Century we worked at extending the lifespan of the general population.  Now we've got a huge wave of retired boomers to support, particularly in China due to their 40 year one child policy.  

 

Heart disease is already the #1 killer of seniors, and what better way of reducing lifespan than by accelerating heart disease?  Blame it on the virus, or blame it on the vaccines; either way the public is unlikely to ever make the connection this might all be by social design to eliminate excess non-productive eaters.  

 

Yes, and the spike proteins seem to target the heart, blood vessels, as well as other tissues. Social security is running out of money, if lots of 20 to 60 year olds die young, all that money they put in is lost and they don't get a dime of it.

 

You talk about china, they are suffering multiple epidemics of either covid or effects of the shot. They have a huge outbreak of fungal pneumonia striking the young mostly plus all the normal illnesses. You won't read about it in the news, china lies probably more even than ukraine about what is going on. Official figures are all changed to make things look better. They are also facing famine and social unrest.

 

I heard 300 to 400 million chinese died in the last 3 or 4 years. I have no proof of it, just rumors but the funeral industry in china is doing a land office business.

 

 Retirees in china better hope they can find a part time job or that their family supports them because the chinese government is running low on cash. In usa they are talking about social security having to reduce benefits by 2033 so we are not that much better off than the rest of the world. Unless of course we see a huge wave of excess deaths in that time, then who knows, there might be enough to go around

 

Financial experts say a major economic depression is coming, not just a recession like in '08 but a real one. Possibly as bad as the 1930s


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Posted 16 October 2023 - 08:29 PM

I never attribute anything to deliberate action on the part of the government when it is adequately explained by foolishness, personal corruption, or hubris.

 

 


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Posted 17 October 2023 - 01:00 AM

New-Onset Rheumatic Immune-Mediated Inflammatory Diseases Following SARS-CoV-2 Vaccinations until May 2023: A Systematic Review

 

 

 

Our review suggests that R-IMIDs may develop after administering COVID-19 vaccines to adults. The onset of symptoms after taking the COVID-19 vaccine is short, with many patients developing acute clinical symptoms with manifestations of R-IMIDs. Vasculitis was the most reported condition, followed by CTDs and inflammatory arthritis. However, the association of COVID-19 vaccines with R-IMID development has yet to be conclusively answered. Although many cases of R-IMIDs are being reported across different parts of the world, R-IMIDs following the COVID-19 vaccinations are still rare, short-lived, and respond to steroidal and other immunosuppressive agents, and therefore have a good prognosis.

 



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Posted 18 October 2023 - 03:39 AM

I say this was a psyop and a plan to eliminate up to 1/2 the world population.

 

I heard 300 to 400 million chinese died in the last 3 or 4 years. I have no proof of it, just rumors

 

Thanks for giving us a good laugh with these crazy conspiracy theories.

 

 

 

The Victorians used to visit lunatic asylums as a form of entertainment: they would have a good laugh at the crazies in the asylum. But one doesn't need to visit asylums to enjoy a chuckle; one just has to read some of the crazy comments posted in the COVID threads on Longecity.


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Posted 18 October 2023 - 05:16 AM

The claim that the mRNA vaccines are "safe and effective" is the biggest conspiracy of all time.   


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Posted 18 October 2023 - 07:08 AM

This doctor must not be keeping up with recent research - seems surprised that she and other doctors keep getting COVID (just weeks between illnesses) even though they are getting all the boosters. They should be asking questions about the "vaccine" and how it is a failure. Instead, they just make up theories about why they keep getting infected.

 

Now that Pfizer itself is issuing press releases noting how the mRNA injections cause heart ailments, maybe the CDC can finally stop ignoring adverse events and misleading the public. Don't bet on it.


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Posted 18 October 2023 - 06:42 PM

This doctor must not be keeping up with recent research - seems surprised that she and other doctors keep getting COVID (just weeks between illnesses) even though they are getting all the boosters. They should be asking questions about the "vaccine" and how it is a failure. Instead, they just make up theories about why they keep getting infected.

 

Now that Pfizer itself is issuing press releases noting how the mRNA injections cause heart ailments, maybe the CDC can finally stop ignoring adverse events and misleading the public. Don't bet on it.

 

Yes, we can't really blame the doctors for this debacle, some of them willingly took the shot. You would think they of all people would know better and would look into it. Or at least would notice that they keep catching covid which proves it has zero benefit for stopping it. Smart people sometimes do very stupid things when their emotions and belief systems are involved.

 

The ones who took it voluntarily and the boosters too, are those with a great deal of respect for authority figures. If the medical establishment seems to say 'take it' they take it. Then they are committed and if contrary information comes along, they deny it and insist its misinformation. Others had great doubt and only took it after being threatened with loss of job or even loss of medical  license

 

Humans will rationalize anything rather than face uncomfortable facts. Pick between the following 2 possibilities. 1. Everything you were told was wrong and you damaged your own health and that of your patients. Or 2. They are just misinformed and we are right. Its easy to see which one is easier to pick, number 2 tells you you did nothing wrong and you are right. It keeps you on the side of the establishment and no punishment. Number 1 means you did a terrible thing and also hurt others. Who is going to pick that if there is the slightest possibility its really #2?

 

Do they go out and dig up the research to see who is right? Uh uh, better let sleeping dogs lie, do not open that pandora box or something horrifying might come out. Nope, the great majority do not search for the truth once they have committed to the plan. Some might see enough to stop taking it themselves but do not try to overturn the applecart. The status quo is they are doing the right thing according to authority figures and they have a great paying job. Fauci made millions, he has an even bigger incentive though I doubt he ever took the shot.


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#1438 Hip

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Posted 19 October 2023 - 03:52 AM

The claim that the mRNA vaccines are "safe and effective" is the biggest conspiracy of all time.   

 

I am sure that had the people on these COVID threads lived back during the Industrial Revolution, they would have been with the Luddites, bidding everyone to go back to pre-industrial lifestyles.

 

And if they lived during the advent of steam trains, they would be arguing to return to the horse and carriage. And if they lived in 3500 BC

when horses were first domesticated, they would be saying there was nothing wrong with walking on foot, and that we do not need these new-fangled tamed horses for transportation!

 

There will always be those facing backwards, but history soon forgets them, and moves on to greater things. 

 

The success of the mRNA vaccines during the pandemic will lead to even greater medical advances, such as the new mRNA EBV vaccines we are now seeing, which may eliminate the hideous disease of MS, which is strongly linked to EBV.

 

 

I know a lot of people here suffer from OCD-spectrum mental health disorders, and so get unduly obsessed by tiny imperfections. Yes vaccines of all types can lead to adverse effects; but you should not let OCD obsession with the negatives blind you to the huge positives that vaccination brings. Just as you should not let the fact that 40,000 Americans die on the road each year cloud your understanding of the incredible advantages motor vehicles bring to our society.


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Posted 19 October 2023 - 04:41 AM

This doctor must not be keeping up with recent research - seems surprised that she and other doctors keep getting COVID (just weeks between illnesses) even though they are getting all the boosters. They should be asking questions about the "vaccine" and how it is a failure. Instead, they just make up theories about why they keep getting infected.

 

Mind, you should be questioning why you do not understand the reason coronavirus vaccinations are much less effective than vaccinations for other pathogens. The reasons have been explained on these COVID threads, but you don't seem to have taken it on board.


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Posted 19 October 2023 - 06:28 PM

Mind, you should be questioning why you do not understand the reason coronavirus vaccinations are much less effective than vaccinations for other pathogens. The reasons have been explained on these COVID threads, but you don't seem to have taken it on board.

 

Everyone understands how they "work", duh!

 

How they work (barely, for short time periods) is completely different from the topic of how they are an utter total failure as a "vaccine" to control the spread of COVID. The COVID injections are such a failure and so obviously so that hardly anyone is getting any of the boosters. Only 1 in 50 people in the US are getting the latest booster. Considering that the boosters are being pushed relentlessly 24/7 on TV and by the US government, it is a sign that even the most uniformed person on the street saw with their own eyes that the COVID injections DID NOTHING to stop the spread of COVID.

 

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In addition, the side effects (often deadly) are well known to people. Almost everyone knows someone who developed a surprise disease (including cancer) shortly after getting the COVID injection. Dr. Drew claims to have seen a new peer-reviewed study indicating up to 50% of young men have developed myocarditis from the COVID injections.

 

In addition to all of the other side effects, the COVID injections have been found to reduce the number and diversity of gut microbiota.

 

Even Health Canada is now reporting that the injections are contaminated with SV40. The CDC and the FDA are about the only health bureaucracies in the world that continue to deny any side effects or any problems with the COVID injections. Why does anyone believe anything they say?


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