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[Mind]

Researchers find that hospitals treated far more patients for vaccine injuries than actual COVID.

 

The CDC director is claiming that additional COVID boosters will help prevent long COVID. There is ZERO robust evidence for this. Just like there was never any evidence that the COVID injections would turn a person into a "dead end", for the virus, yet Dr. Fauci proclaimed that on TV.

 

People around the world need to understand that US bureaucracies have become less competent and more corrupt through the years. The Vioxx disaster is just one of of dozens of cases illustrating the corrupt nature of the FDA and CDC. This video from 20 years ago could easily describe the process through which the COVID injections were approved. It is well worth your watch. Where are the whistleblowers nowadays? They are being silenced. They are being threatened. They are losing their jobs and medical licenses. I used to be proud of the "American system". America used to have mostly ethical smart people running the show. Not so much anymore.

[Empiricus]

Pfizer failed to disclose to regulators the presence of Simian Virus 40 (SV40).  The vaccines contained this DNA and it could be implicated in cancers (which are rising).  https://rumble.com/v...prosperity.html

[zorba990]

They will never stop pushing this life contraction technology : https://x.com/WarHor...487987551023345

[Mind]

A lot of companies are losing lawsuits over their actions during the COVID panic - including BART in San Francisco. They should try to shift the blame to the US government which was pushing an all out war against the unvaccinated. The lion's share of the blame lies with the US government but no one is being held accountable - yet.

[Mind]

Maybe there will be some accountability within the US university system. A new bill is being debated in congress to make colleges pay for vaccine injuries. This might be the closest thing to direct accountability that the US government will face for the COVID debacle.

 

Speaking of vaccine injuries, the sharp rise in turbo-cancers since the rollout of the COVID injections is garnering mainstream media attention. These media outlets obviously know people who have been harmed by the COVID "vaccines" otherwise they would NEVER being doing this story. A couple of years ago, they would have called such reports/injuries anti-vaccine crap.

 

A couple years ago, if you said the COVID injections' protection faded quickly, you would be labeled an evil anti-scientist conspiracy nut, now the NIH says it publicly. Will there be any apologies given to the people who pointed this fact out a couple of years ago?

 

Prior to the COVID debacle/panic, people trusted the vaccine industry. That trust is fading rapidly. More and more people are highlighting vaccine failures and dangers, information that has been relatively hidden from the public. The Midwestern Doctor highlights a lot of vaccine disasters over the last few decades. Doctor Thomas takes a look at all of the maladies that are much more prevalent among vaccinated children.

[kurt9]

The astonishing thing about this whole covid-19 debacle is how many people swallowed the Kool-aid spewed out by the mainstream media. It was obvious from the Diamond Princess cruise ship that the SARS-CoV-2 was in no way the "slat wiper" the media made it out to be. It was quite apparent by April of 2020 that covid-19 was of essentially ZERO risk to anyone who was not elderly, morbidly obese, or both. Even most elderly were not at serious risk. Only the morbidly obese were. It was of ZERO risk to anyone under the age of 50. The media created a spectacle over absolutely nothing. It is simply incomprehensible why so many people swallowed the covid-19 Kool-aid. 

[Dorian Grey]

The astonishing thing about this whole covid-19 debacle is how many people swallowed the Kool-aid spewed out by the mainstream media. It was obvious from the Diamond Princess cruise ship that the SARS-CoV-2 was in no way the "slat wiper" the media made it out to be. It was quite apparent by April of 2020 that covid-19 was of essentially ZERO risk to anyone who was not elderly, morbidly obese, or both. Even most elderly were not at serious risk. Only the morbidly obese were. It was of ZERO risk to anyone under the age of 50. The media created a spectacle over absolutely nothing. It is simply incomprehensible why so many people swallowed the covid-19 Kool-aid. 

 

I can't help but think there was one man...  Dr Fauci, who was largely responsible for much of the suffering in 2020/21.  

 

We knew very early on COVID was a disease of inflammation, blood clots, and in some cases, a run-away autoimmune response; and we already have fairly benign existing drugs which treat all these issues with remarkable safety.  One drug (hydroxychloroquine) ameliorates all three at once, and has a remarkable over the counter safety record over half a century of use. We also learned may years ago, with fast moving respiratory virus, what every you treat with, you better start early.  

 

Unfortunately, Dr Fauci poured cold water on any and all outpatient treatment, and told us to sit at home if we fell ill and listen to the clock ticking as our symptoms got worse, knowing if we dared pick up the phone, we would be ambulanced off for some remdesivir & ventilation, likely causing us to die alone and afraid under the fluorescent lights of an ICU.  

 

Yes, there were other mad scientists around the world spreading fear porn, but if Dr Fauci would have came out with some calming words, and outpatient treatment options to give hope to those who feared the virus, our plague years might have gone much differently.  

 

I thought we might cut Fauci some slack for a while...  Government boffins study disease, they do not treat patients, and this is all he wanted to do; but this went on for 2 whole years before omicron came and put an end to the horror show.  For me, refusing to treat or even allow others to treat during the dark days of the plague was simply inexcusable, & absolutely unforgivable. 

 

Some folks make the world a better place by coming into it; others the opposite.  I look forward to the day Dr Evil makes the world a better place...  By leaving it!  

Edited by Dorian Grey, 01 November 2024 - 03:57 PM.

[joesixpack]

I can't help but think there was one man...  Dr Fauci, who was largely responsible for much of the suffering in 2020/21.  

 

We knew very early on COVID was a disease of inflammation, blood clots, and in some cases, a run-away autoimmune response; and we already have fairly benign existing drugs which treat all these issues with remarkable safety.  One drug (hydroxychloroquine) ameliorates all three at once, and has a remarkable over the counter safety record over half a century of use. We also learned may years ago, with fast moving respiratory virus, what every you treat with, you better start early.  

 

Unfortunately, Dr Fauci poured cold water on any and all outpatient treatment, and told us to sit at home if we fell ill and listen to the clock ticking as our symptoms got worse, knowing if we dared pick up the phone, we would be ambulanced off for some remdesivir & ventilation, likely causing us to die alone and afraid under the fluorescent lights of an ICU.  

 

Yes, there were other mad scientists around the world spreading fear porn, but if Dr Fauci would have came out with some calming words, and outpatient treatment options to give hope to those who feared the virus, our plague years might have gone much differently.  

 

I thought we might cut Fauci some slack for a while...  Government boffins study disease, they do not treat patients, and this is all he wanted to do; but this went on for 2 whole years before omicron came and put an end to the horror show.  For me, refusing to treat or even allow others to treat during the dark days of the plague was simply inexcusable, & absolutely unforgivable. 

 

Some folks make the world a better place by coming into it; others the opposite.  I look forward to the day Dr Evil makes the world a better place...  By leaving it!  

Agreed, the failure to treat was the worst betrayal of patient trust. During the plague I did not test positive for Covid. That came later. Instead I was diagnosed with pneumonia. The nurse practitioner wanted to send me to the hospital, which was a non starter for me. I talked her into treating me in clinic instead. They gave me 3 doses of different antibiotics, and and IV to rehydrate me. While this was happening she said, " I could test you for Covid, but I am not going to". The unspoken part was that if I tested positive, they would not treat me at all, and it was a protocol that they were forced to follow. Everyone in the room knew what we talking about, and they understood why I refused to go to the hospital.

 

The main reason they had to destroy Hydroxychloroquine  and Ivermectin was the mRNA vaccine, that they were hell bent on getting to market. The only way they could get an EUA to use it was to demonstrate that there was no therapeutic available to treat Covid 19. Which was the big lie, and Fauci led the chorus. I think they could have given everyone a Zpack as soon as they got sick and it would have helped. Hence the rather unusual "no treatment" protocol. Because of that protocol, and the fact the the medical profession went along with it, I will never again trust that they will act in their patients best interests.

[pamojja]

It was obvious from the Diamond Princess cruise ship that the SARS-CoV-2 was in no way the "slat wiper" the media made it out to be.

 

Not the media, not Fauci, but those ordinary MDs who excuse themselves, just having followed orders. As with the genocide during Nazi-Germany. Any bad players at the top of organizations will always be replaced, as soon another bad players gets a chance.
 

But Impossible to trust any not-fired or prosecuted MD ever again. It is understandable that peasants couldn't make the calculation (700 sick, 7 dying at end of life-expectancy on the ship are 1%, just as any severe flu season - happening right before worldwide lockdowns), but for any MD with academical education inexcusable. Impossible to trust any of them ever again. In matters one's life depending on.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited by pamojja, 01 November 2024 - 06:05 PM.

[kurt9]

I remember being at an Alcor meeting in '87 or so when Mike Darwin talked about Fauci. Mike was talking about how AZT was such a horrible drug and that Dr. Fauci pushed it over better and cheaper alternatives. So this is not new behavior for Dr. Fauci.

[Dorian Grey]

Agreed, the failure to treat was the worst betrayal of patient trust. During the plague I did not test positive for Covid. That came later. Instead I was diagnosed with pneumonia. The nurse practitioner wanted to send me to the hospital, which was a non starter for me. I talked her into treating me in clinic instead. They gave me 3 doses of different antibiotics, and and IV to rehydrate me. While this was happening she said, " I could test you for Covid, but I am not going to". The unspoken part was that if I tested positive, they would not treat me at all, and it was a protocol that they were forced to follow. Everyone in the room knew what we talking about, and they understood why I refused to go to the hospital.

 

The main reason they had to destroy Hydroxychloroquine  and Ivermectin was the mRNA vaccine, that they were hell bent on getting to market. The only way they could get an EUA to use it was to demonstrate that there was no therapeutic available to treat Covid 19. Which was the big lie, and Fauci led the chorus. I think they could have given everyone a Zpack as soon as they got sick and it would have helped. Hence the rather unusual "no treatment" protocol. Because of that protocol, and the fact the the medical profession went along with it, I will never again trust that they will act in their patients best interests.

 

Glad your little flame still flickers joesixpack.  Amazing what we had to do to escape the "Standard of Care" 21st Century medicine.  

 

I got equine ivermectin from amazon, & yep, I ate it.  Learned how to use bitcoin and ordered hydroxychloroquine from a pharmacy in India; fully expecting to get busted and sent to Guantanamo.  I about fell to my knees & thanked God when it arrived.  Took it when I fell ill, and my infection was a walk in the park.  I actually spent a couple hours each day of isolation walking in a park, thinking how lucky I was.  

 

My heart aches for those who died & got Long COVID.  I read the US & UK had some of the worst COVID statistics on the planet.  Worst part is...  The millions of sheep who still believe to this day, we got everything right, & it was Tony Fauci & Joe Biden who shut down the virus, with remdesivir & vaccines.  

Edited by Dorian Grey, 01 November 2024 - 07:41 PM.

[Dorian Grey]

I remember being at an Alcor meeting in '87 or so when Mike Darwin talked about Fauci. Mike was talking about how AZT was such a horrible drug and that Dr. Fauci pushed it over better and cheaper alternatives. So this is not new behavior for Dr. Fauci.

 

Yes, Huff Post had a good piece on Fauci's misadventures with AIDS

 

https://www.huffpost...story_b_4762295

 

Whitewashing AIDS History

 

"Dr. Anthony Fauci is rewriting history. He is doing so to disguise his shameful role in delaying promotion of an AIDS treatment that would have prevented tens of thousands of deaths in the first years of the epidemic."

 

"I point to Dr. Fauci in particular, because he was, and remains today, the head of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the head of the federal government's AIDS research program. In 1987, pioneering AIDS activist Michael Callen begged Fauci for help in promoting the use of Bactrim as PCP prophylaxis and issuing interim guidelines urging physicians to prophylax those patients deemed at high risk for PCP."

 

"Had Fauci listened to people with AIDS and the clinicians treating them, and responded accordingly, he would have saved thousands of lives. In the two years between 1987, when Callen met with Fauci and 1989, when the guidelines were ultimately issued, nearly 17,000 people with AIDS suffocated from PCP. Most of these people might have lived had Fauci responded appropriately."

 

" Fauci's close colleague, Dr. Samuel Broder, who was head of the National Cancer Institute, even suggested -- in the absence of any evidence at all -- that the newly introduced antiretroviral, AZT, would make prophylaxis against PCP redundant!"

 

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Yep...  So frontline doctors saying they've found something that works against a deadly plague, and Fauci just says NO to cheap existing drugs, and dreams of a brand new patented medication somewhere in the future, while thousands die.  Funny how history repeats.  

[Empiricus]

Yes, Huff Post had a good piece on Fauci's misadventures with AIDS

 

https://www.huffpost...story_b_4762295

 

Whitewashing AIDS History

 

"Dr. Anthony Fauci is rewriting history. He is doing so to disguise his shameful role in delaying promotion of an AIDS treatment that would have prevented tens of thousands of deaths in the first years of the epidemic."

 

"I point to Dr. Fauci in particular, because he was, and remains today, the head of the National Institutes of Allergy and Infectious Diseases and the head of the federal government's AIDS research program. In 1987, pioneering AIDS activist Michael Callen begged Fauci for help in promoting the use of Bactrim as PCP prophylaxis and issuing interim guidelines urging physicians to prophylax those patients deemed at high risk for PCP."

 

"Had Fauci listened to people with AIDS and the clinicians treating them, and responded accordingly, he would have saved thousands of lives. In the two years between 1987, when Callen met with Fauci and 1989, when the guidelines were ultimately issued, nearly 17,000 people with AIDS suffocated from PCP. Most of these people might have lived had Fauci responded appropriately."

 

" Fauci's close colleague, Dr. Samuel Broder, who was head of the National Cancer Institute, even suggested -- in the absence of any evidence at all -- that the newly introduced antiretroviral, AZT, would make prophylaxis against PCP redundant!"

 

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Yep...  So frontline doctors saying they've found something that works against a deadly plague, and Fauci just says NO to cheap existing drugs, and dreams of a brand new patented medication somewhere in the future, while thousands die.  Funny how history repeats.  

 

 

Before I clicked the link on your Huff Post article critical of Fauci I guessed the article would be an old one.  Indeed the article is from 2014.  Mainstream investigative journalism on health ended more than four years ago.  

[Mind]

South Korean researchers find heart disease risk increases with COVID "vaccination".

 

There are over 3,000 peer-reviewed studies highlighting the serious and deadly side effects from the COVID injections, almost all of them are from outside the (corrupt) US health establishment. If you listen to the FDA and CDC you would never know there is anything wrong with the COVID "vaccines". They are pushing full-speed ahead with boosters, boosters, boosters - even as hardly anyone is taking the injections. They live in a (corrupt) bubble. I guess, if I got billions of dollars in funding no matter how if I followed "the science" or not, if I acted ethically or not, I guess I would push the shots no matter what as well.

 

More doctors are waking up, or changing course because there could be severe backlash against them. Some of them are raising alarm, after 4 teen athletes in Tennessee recently died of heart problems.

 

Teen athletes dying of heart attacks used to be extremely rare, so rare that every death would make national news in the US. Now, after the COVID injections, thousands of athletes have died of heart attacks in the last 3 years and the silence from the completely awful and unethical US national media is deafening. FOUR VACCINATED TEEN ATHELTES DIED IN ONE STATE - in case you missed that part.

 

A vaccine injury lawyer says most of his clients are doctors. Yet those cowardly doctors will not come forward and publicly denounce the COVID injections.

[Mind]

Japanese doctors are warning the public that the mortality rate among people who took the COVID injections is 5 TIMES higher than people who did not take the injecitons.

[Empiricus]

Will the incoming administration be completely transparent about mRNA vaccine side-effect research we've been sharing here? How soon will these shots be pulled?  Interesting times for science and health.  

[Mind]

Will the incoming administration be completely transparent about mRNA vaccine side-effect research we've been sharing here? How soon will these shots be pulled?  Interesting times for science and health.  

 

I think there is a 50/50 chance that some records will "go missing" or be "accidentally deleted". At the very least, the CDC and FDA are going to have to reckon with or explain why every other country in the world is reporting and publishing peer-reviewed research indicating numerous serious and deadly side effects from the COVID injections while they claim everything is fine.

[Mind]

It is rather scary how many people were advocating for the US government to have the power to force vaccinate anyone at anytime for any reason (not just for COVID). Thankfully, there are some vestiges of the rule of law and trial by jury to rectify the situation. Jury awards nurse 12 million dollars in vaccine refusal lawsuit. The lawsuits are accelerating and becoming more lucrative. After being shamed into not representing these people a couple of years ago, now I am sure the tort lawyers are seeing a lot of $$$ ahead.

 

Again, if I was a company or hospital facing these huge lawsuits, I would try to shift the blame to the US government/FDA/CDC who were the main culprits here - going to the airwaves and creating a culture of hatred toward the unvaccinated.

 

And the employment lawsuits are just the beginning. Seattle's King County has seen a huge increase in cardiac arrests since the rollout of the COVID injections. With a new administration coming to the US executive branch, perhaps the true toll of the COVID vaccine injuries and deaths. Currently, the CDC/FDA continue to claim side effects from the COVID injections are extremely rare and non-consequential. I think the general public knows better and that is why hardly anyone is taking the injections anymore.

[Mind]

For those who do not want to go back an find the hundreds of peer-reviewed links within this thread which demonstrate how harmful the COVID injections are - here is a succinct video highlighting much of the data and research.

[Mind]

Here is the ignorant stooge who doled out so much false info, fear, and hate on CNN during the COVID panic, now going after RFK Jr. for being anti-science.

 

Hey Leana Wen, that's not working anymore. You can't just spew vitriol without evidence to back it up. There are too many other outlets to get real peer-reviewed evidence - rather than misinformation on CNN.

 

Same goes for all of the people who flew into a rage in this forum and elsewhere whenever people brought up reasonable and credible questions about the COVID panic.

 

It is not working anymore.

[Mind]

Here is the ignorant stooge who doled out so much false info, fear, and hate on CNN during the COVID panic, now going after RFK Jr. for being anti-science.

 

Hey Leana Wen, that's not working anymore. You can't just spew vitriol without evidence to back it up. There are too many other outlets to get real peer-reviewed evidence - rather than misinformation on CNN.

 

Same goes for all of the people who flew into a rage in this forum and elsewhere whenever people brought up reasonable and credible questions about the COVID panic.

 

It is not working anymore.

 

 

This recent substack article makes a similar point to the one above (among others).

 

The whole COVID panic, the threats, the screaming, the shaming, the slurs ("anti-science", "conspiracy nuts") woke a lot of people up. When hundreds of top researchers, doctors, and top health officials were publicly derided for talking about peer-reviewed evidence that went against the COVID panic response, people noticed.

 

They noticed that Leana Wen is not credible. They noticed that Birx, Fauci, and Collins were lying.

 

The "health" bureaucracy in the US "screwed the pooch" as some would say. Now people are reviewing all of the other times when the "health" bureaucrats in the US used the same tactics - and it is very often.

 

Vaccines causing autism? Back on the table. Statins don't do anything? Definitely being discussed. Hopefully some retribution is coming.

Edited by Mind, 20 November 2024 - 08:53 PM.

[Mind]

Not only are barely 1 in 10 Americans taking the latest COVID booster (mostly people in New York and California), they are rejecting the flu and RSV vaccines as well.

 

I haven't seen any long term studies on the new RSV vaccines, but the flu shot is an obvious failure.

 

True story. A lady I see once in a while during work was talking about the flu vaccine. Just a couple of weeks ago, she took the flu vaccine and was complaining to me how she always gets sick with flu-like symptoms after the flu shot and she always gets a flu-like illness every winter (this has been happening for many years). I didn't say anything, but I wanted to tell her to stop taking something that is so obviously useless.

[Mind]

Unbelievable that ICAN has submitted over 2,000 FOIA requests, and they have to SUE the US government before the US government will release any studies or data revolving around any vaccine testing/approval/safety.

 

If all of the vaccines were robustly tested and safe (as the idiots in the national media repeat ad nauseum - without evidence), there would be no need for the US Government to act in this manner, trying to prevent the public from seeing any information whatsoever.

Edited by Mind, 25 November 2024 - 10:48 PM.

[Mind]

This was brought up earlier, but it bears repeating because hardly anyone is aware it, or if they have reviewed the topic, they still refuse to believe it.

 

No vaccine has ever gone through a large long-term double-blind true placebo controlled study.

 

No childhood vaccines have ever passed a legitimate safety trial. Hard to believe, but when CHD sued the US government for records of the "safety trials" the US government admitted it had no records of such trials.

[Mind]

More and more mainstream media outlets are publishing articles about the serious and deadly side effects of the COVID injections.

 

Meanwhile the media in the US is still full of commercials to take the boosters, and take more vaccines, vaccines, vaccines, vaccines for everything under the sun (as fully recommended by the corrupt CDC and FDA).

Edited by Mind, 04 December 2024 - 07:29 PM.

[Mind]

Not only did CHD demand safety studies about childhood vaccines (and the FDA admitted there were none), ICAN did as well (from the CDC). After lying about the data for a long time, the CDC finally admitted there were no legitimate safety studies regarding childhood vaccines. Just another instance where the CDC lied.

 

How many lies will you accept from the CDC? How long will you support the CDC when they hide the most important data and only reveal it when they are sued?

 

Just another study here about the significant DNA contamination in the COVID injections. Another analysis here.

[Mind]

Just a reminder that researchers in several countries have now confirmed an alarming amount (way above regulated limits) of DNA contamination in the COVID injections. Another report here.

 

Meanwhile the CDC and FDA continue to push boosters non-stop as if there is zero evidence of serious and deadly side effects from the COVID injections.

[Mind]

Recent disclosures seem to indicate Pfizer hid a number of deaths during the trial of their COVID injections.. We also had a whistleblower provide documentation about the sloppy and fraudulent nature of the Pfizer trial.

 

This should not surprise anyone, the history of big pharma is littered with unethical and criminal behavior. Remember when Wyeth attempted to hide baby deaths from their vaccine - BY DISTRIBUTING IT MORE WIDELY!

 

Remember when Merck made a conscious decision to continue pushing Vioxx on the population even though they knew hundreds of thousands of people would develop serious heart problems. It was a calculation that the penalty they would pay would be less than the money they could make off of selling a harmful product. Sadly, they were right.

 

[Mind]

Much is being made of the Yale Paper (being hidden from the public) that shows likely DNA integration of the mRNA COVID injections, because  they found people who had elevated levels of the spike protein 700 days after they took the injection. Essentially, these people's bodies are still manufacturing the toxic spike protein almost 2 years after they took the injection. Besides the direct harm from the spike protein, it is probably messing up immune responses to other pathogens/cancer (IMO). Another discussion about it.

 

A study in rats has found the injections (during pregnancy) led to the offspring showing signs of neurological disorders.

 

Women were told that the injections were perfectly safe, even though hundreds of thousands of women were reporting menstrual problems after the injections. Data is still being withheld from the public by the CDC and FDA and they continue to push COVID boosters non-stop.

 

It is no wonder why the public's trust in vaccines is dropping precipitously. I am surprised it is not closer to zero. The CDC, FDA, and the COVID debacle they foisted upon the public are mostly to blame for this.

 

 

[Mind]

Not many people are aware that there are NO large long-term placebo-controlled and blinded studies with all cause mortality as an end point  - proving the effectiveness of any vaccine.

 

Some researchers recently looked at the all-cause mortality in regards to the COVID injections/boosters and found mortality risk has increased for the people who have taken the COVID injections.