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[Mind]

Yet another nasal spray (besides hydrogen peroxide) is shown to be useful in minimizing COVID infections.

 

So many useful strategies were offered or developed over the last 2.5 years, yet hardly anyone knows about them due to the relentless censorship,, mockery, and undistilled hate that was aimed at anyone offering workable solutions to combat COVID. Hopefully the irrational rage will subside, but there is no guarantee, NH governor is still throwing up roadblocks in the use of Ivermectin.

[Gal220]

John Campbell has a new video up on CBD oil for Covid, could also be taken for prevention

 

https://rumble.com/v...-and-covid.html

 

 

 

What I would do currently as a recap

For prevention add nasal spray(xlear) and mouthwash gargle to daily tooth brushing + multivitamin + vit D/K2 supplement

 

If sick, increase vitamin D to 20k, nasal spray and gargle every few hours, lactoferrin + Bendryl, NAC, finish bottle of blood cleanser(Neprinol or Serracor), vitamin C(1000 x3), probiotic with bifidobacterium

Edited by Gal220, 07 May 2023 - 03:47 AM.

[Gal220]

One of things missing in this thread is how much vitamin D do you take when sick with Covid, or anything else for that matter?

 

4000IU is often sited for the amount used daily when not sick

http://www.orthomole...ns/v09n01.shtml

 

At one time the FLCCC Covid guide recommended 20kiu a day if sick, the recent protocol calls for single dose of 400k IU for 200lb person to get levels above 50ng/ml

Note also, it takes 3-4 days to get the benefit, they prefer Calcifediol if possible(table at the bottom)

https://covid19criti...ovid-treatment/

 

But this seems to assume a low vitamin D level, if already supplementing, what's the right dose(the same could be said for other vitamins like zinc)

One would think this information would be readily available, the FLCCC guide at one time was recommending 20kIU daily if sick 

I found one article with a study using 18k IU a day, but why?  The outcomes were good at least

http://orthomolecula...ns/v16n49.shtml

 

 

 

The other criical vitamin to immunity, vitamin C, has far more information.  Not easy to find as google is censoring these sites, but it's there

A good powder using quali C, take throughout the day

http://orthomolecula...ns/v14n12.shtml

https://drjockers.co...tamin-c-levels/

 

"the usual bowel tolerance doses for a mild cold could be somewhere between 30,000 mg to 60,000 mg of vitamin C per day given in divided doses. A person with a severe cold might take 60,000 mg to 100,000 mg per day before reaching bowel tolerance. The flu? Up to 150,000 mg daily might be taken in divided doses to achieve bowel tolerance. "

 

"white blood cells have more insulin pumps than any other type of cell and may contain 20 times the amount of vitamin C as other cells.  They also need 50 times more vitamin C inside the cell than in the blood plasma in order to handle the oxidative stress that occurs when they encounter a pathogenic substance"

 

 

Edit

Earlier in the thread, Chris Masterjohn recommended a bolus dose(if low D) and then 10KIU while sick

https://www.longecit...ndpost&p=912081

 

see also 

https://chrismasterj...-19-the-current

 

Chris is a little on the conservative side, I would go with 20kiu + teaspoon of cod liver oil, vit K2, and spectrum E

Edited by Gal220, 22 October 2023 - 11:28 PM.

[Dorian Grey]

Has Dr Seheult gone cuckoo for coco puffs?  Here we see our old friend extolling the virtues of sun bathing for COVID recovery.  

 

https://youtu.be/eCS...gvB4CnwCfjCx3Ch

 

He actually makes a very good case for this, including a salvage operation on a patient seriously ill with COVID he actually packed up and took outside for 20 minutes.  

 

For what it's worth, Dr Seheult is a front line ICU doc, with extensive experience treating COVID.  

 

If you live in a cold climate, a sun lamp might be worth looking into?  I'm in San Diego, so I'll see you out at the pool.

[pamojja]

Here we see our old friend extolling the virtues of sun bathing for COVID recovery. 

 

Probably one of many reasons I didn't have covid, or remember any flu. From my stack: https://www.longecit...nal-remissions/

 

 

 

This is my main solar panel after 200 hrs/50 days in the South Indian sun this March:

 

 

 

 

If you live in a cold climate, a sun lamp might be worth looking into?

And yes. Though 2021 India's sun wasn't possible, the following winter was the first time of a pause in remission and a slight comeback of intermittent claudication symptoms. A 900 Watt of Infrared heat lamp helped. Gladly, 2022 was the sunniest summer I remember here.
 

[Dorian Grey]

Uh-Oh...  Dr McMillan (Vejon Health) thinks WE'RE SCREWED!  If you haven't been following Dr McMillan, he's big into the Auto Immune aspects of COVID, and has been concerned with the "original antigenic sin" angle that occurs when folks are vaccinated with one strain of virus and the body then encounters multiple different versions of the virus (or new vaccines) over time.  

 

Someone has gone and chummed the waters he swims in with a study on reinfections, and increased risk of multiple different health issues, including all cause mortality.  

 

https://www.nature.c...591-022-02051-3

 

Acute and postacute sequelae associated with sars-cov-2 reinfection

 

It actually is kind of spooky, as cardiac issues were elevated for the entire 6 months following reinfection, which might explain the epidemic of "died suddenly" that's occurring.  

 

Here's Dr McMillan, & he is alarmed!  

 

https://www.youtube....0S_FSdf2d1Whg2q

 

I've posted this in our Strategies if Covid Symptoms thread, because my latest kick is EARLY TREATMENT (as in real early), and also because the primary treatment to reduce risk from auto immune issues is immune modulation, and I'm a super-fan of our old friend hydroxychloroquine, which may be the big fix for COVID auto immune issues.  

 

One thing that I noticed watching the video, was the dramatic increase of risk that lasted a full 30 days after the infection is largely resolved.  I instantly had a flashback to my 1st round with COVID, detailed in my "Ma-ma-ma-my Corona" thread: 

 

https://www.longecit...a-ma-my-corona/

 

Hydroxychloroquine has a very long half life (around 30 days), so I figured I could halt therapy as soon as my symptoms started to abate.  Interestingly, I had experienced a flair in symptoms within a short period, which I described...  

 

"An interesting postscript. 

I went off HCQ ten days after my exposure.  30 hours later, I got a sinus headache.  Restarted HCQ & it vanished. 

Don’t believe this was a virus flare, but inflammatory response from left over viral debris.

I recommend staying on what ever anti-inflammatory therapeutic you choose for a full 30 days after exposure. 

 

Post COVID inflammatory syndrome is real (ask Bob Saget)."

 

Hey!  I can relate to this auto immune issue, & in the future I'll be on my HCQ for a full month (or more) with any new infections.  This may also explain the "Long COVID" issue.  Have there been any studies on immune modulation with HCQ for Long COVID?  Perhaps there should be!  

 

I think this renews the importance of early treatment and at least short term immune modulation with HCQ.  You may recall...  Doctors love HCQ for Lupus and RA because it's the only immune suppressant that doesn't dramatically increase infection risks.  Ask for it by name!  

Attached Files

•  PostAcuteSequelaeWithCOVID.pdf   2.61MB   3 downloads

Edited by Dorian Grey, 13 December 2023 - 05:15 AM.

[joesixpack]

Thanks for this information Dorian, I found it to be very interesting. And maybe it explains my experience following my 1 Covid infection.

 

I tested positive for Covid at the end of September. On the first day of symptoms I started the FLCCC treatment protocol which includes both HCQ and Ivermectin and I took them both for 7 days, along with most of the other recommended items. The worst symptoms were gone in 3 days, all symptoms gone after 5 days. I have mentioned this episode in a couple threads here.

 

3 weeks later I started getting plugged up sinuses, I never connected it to the Covid infection, but after reviewing the information you provided, I now think it was. The sinus problem persisted for a week, getting worse every day with lots of nasty green mucus. At the end of the week my face and nose swelled up, turned red and became extremely painful over a 4 hour period. I ended up int the Emergency room. When the Dr. walked in he said "Wow, you've got a really good sinus infection". He said he was putting me on a 10 day course of amoxicillin, and of course ordered a CT scan of my sinuses to run up the bill. I recovered without further problems.

 

This is not precisely the kind of event described in the study. But it happened within the 30 day/6 month post Covid corridor, and left untreated could have been very serious. I don't have chronic sinus  issues and I have not experienced anything like this before.

Edited by joesixpack, 13 December 2023 - 05:32 PM.

[Dorian Grey]

Oh wow!  The wife had a similar experience with the post-COVID sinus infection.  The COVID was over quick & easy (thanks HCQ!), but then sinuses started acting up.  She got a scrip for some anti-B's from the doc, but wanted to wait one more day before she started on them, as she thought she was getting better.  Turns out the green meanies were gone, & she got better on her own from there on out.  

 

I had post-COVID sinus drainage too, both times, without infection.  I think it's because our noses got so totally blocked during COVID that produced the perfect environment for resident bacteria to breed.  I'd never had a nose blocked so solid before in my life.  

 

I actually just ordered some doxycycline from overseas pharmacy, anticipating another COVID adventure this Winter.  I always want to try doxy before anything else, as It's never given me any trouble.  I've got a new GP, who's young and gives me the "my way or the highway" vibe, so I don't know what he might insist on prescribing.  

[joesixpack]

Interesting, I think your idea of continuing the treatment for a period of time after Covid symptoms are gone is valid. 

Edited by joesixpack, 13 December 2023 - 06:56 PM.

[Dorian Grey]

Repurposed drugs in the news again.  

 

https://www.thelance...096-8/fulltext#

 

Early treatment with fluvoxamine, bromhexine, cyproheptadine, and niclosamide to prevent clinical deterioration in patients with symptomatic COVID-19: a randomized clinical trial

 

Dr Been gives the low down here: https://www.youtube....LpGixRoJY2ufvAe

 

Interesting EARLY TREATMENT (within 48 hours) is essential.  I've long thought the HCQ / IVM & even Paxlovid trials and recommendations are too slow.  We treat influenza with Tamiflu withing 48 hours; why not COVID?  

 

I can't help but think this is a strong indication, you've got to have your meds on hand to start taking on day 1, or 2 at the latest.  I managed to do this with both of my infections, and my symptoms were a walk in the park.  

Edited by Dorian Grey, 08 April 2024 - 06:34 AM.

[joesixpack]

Interesting study, using drugs you would not ordinarily associate with treatment of a respiratory illness. They gave some people all the drugs early and they did great. They gave other people in the study just one of the drugs and they were ok, but not as good as the people who got the combination. It seems that the important factor is doing something early, not waiting until the patient is a week or two into the illness and needs to be hospitalized.

 

Your point on having you own meds on hand is well taken. There are now companies that will provide a supply of emergency medicine, under prescription, and the price seems to be around $300. http://jasemedical.com is one.  https://www.twc.heal...reparedness-kit is another.