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[jCole]

Piracetam before sleep has always been a hit or miss w/ me. Even at a constant dosage, one night I'll have vivid dreams and wake up feeling amazing, then the next night, my mind will race and I can't sleep at all.

I suspect constantly changing levels of acetylcholine are to blame, but I've given up on piracetam before sleep. Just not predictable in my case.

[1thoughtMaze1]

Don't listen to Isochroma! The mother fucker is the fucker who sells this shit!

[1thoughtMaze1]

Isochroma what a fucking idiot!

[dsnider11]

LOL. Wow Isochroma, how the wonders of piracetam have paid off for you. It's funny because most people who propagate piracetam speak of its slight to moderate benefits, as I do... but I've never heard of such profound, transcendent, and revolutionary effects... please make sure to tell us where you buy this stuff!!!

And to everyone else reading, beware of stepping in the dog poop.

I'm still on the piracetam 4g every 3 hours all day, and one right before bed

It's now been one year and three months since starting, and I can't believe it but improvements are still happening. Each day I'm even more focussed, sharper, etc.

As for the DXM microdose, even with such a tiny amount tolerance ruined the effect so I stopped some months ago. Plus there were very mild side-effect.

What's really interesting is the huge increase in intense dreams in the last two weeks. Not only are the dreams very vivid, but they're new! My old dreams used to repeat on a long, unpredictable cycle. They were all carbon copies of their last appearance. Nothing new.

Now there's tons of new dreams, freshly minted! For example, one of my dreams last night was a conversation with Jim Kunstler. One of his passions is genuine architecture and architecturally wholistic towns. I asked him if the architecture in a particular town was really representative of its own unique self, or just a mix of elements which didn't justify the town's architectural existence. Can't quite remember his answer - one of the frustrating things in my dreams is that people don't usually answer my questions - and I always talk to them telepathically instead of by sound like we do while awake.

These new dreams have an element of verbal, linear and even waking consciousness that I haven't encountered since I was a really young dude. The difference is that while the impossible and strange things persist, my personal volition inside the dream retains a cohesive and rational character with less interruption, thus making possible sophisticated conversations with others or deep understandings. It's like dreaming while awake, and some are actually lucid. Lucidity is a whole range that encompasses a massive territory whose peak some individuals might call fully aware dreaming. But that's just the tip of the glacier, and mine's melting into a river - a liquid flow of moving awareness. Something old and frozen-up is finally thawing. The new dreams are more relevant not just in their content but their persistence into waking hours via better recall.

My goal is a fully simulated dreamworld with a functional Windows box to work on

Nothing else's changed in my life, except one thing: I've restarted fish oil supplementation: six grams in the morning and six right before bed. It's MEG-3 brand, but I expect any decent fish oil would have the same effect. The distillation simply removes contaminants like organohalides and heavy metals.

So after two months on the fish oil regime, I've come to the inevitable conclusion that fish oil is the afterburner on the piracetam jet engine Really puts it into overdrive and has a slight stimulant action of its own. The biggest difference is even better dreams and deeper sleep at night, but the enhanced clarity during waking hours is also noticeable. It started to show after a week of the new regime, and is still ramping up with the most profound effects after several months.

Some years ago I took 4g per day of fish oil, but it never helped (this was before piracetam). After restarting it only two months ago at the higher dose, the effects began to build up. Fish oil and piracetam have been powerfully synergistic for me, but the amount was crucial.

I eat lots of other fats - like most people. The important thing about fats is their ratio, just as important as the total amount. What's the good of taking only 4g when I would - and still do - eat about 20+ grams of other fats each day? It was a drop in the bucket, and hardly changed anything. For reference the other fats are split about even between olive oil and animal fat (meat fat + dairy fat). No hydrogenated junk though.

So I decided to take a real dose, one that was roughly equal to the other fats in my diet. That's when the brain effects started. And no side-effects so far, other than the usual longer bleeding time after shaving Plus fish oil is really affordable and available locally for me, and it also - in combo with 10,000 IU/day Vitamin A from halibut liver oil - totally eliminated dry skin on my hands.

My apology if half the post sounds like a fish oil promo. There's been uncountable posts on the net about how piracetam potentiates drugs, but nobody's mentioned how some supplements can themselves potentiate piracetam, like fish oil does. I'm very careful with money due to limited income, so a supplement has to really work for the dollar or I drop it. Fish oil has been a vital addition and powerful dream synergist with piracetam, so I recommend it for that purpose.

LOL. Wow Isochroma, how the wonders of piracetam have paid off for you. It's funny because most people who propagate piracetam speak of its slight to moderate benefits, as I do... but I've never heard of such profound, transcendent, and revolutionary effects... please make sure to tell us where you buy this stuff!!!

And to everyone else reading, beware of stepping in the dog poop.

LOL. Wow Isochroma, how the wonders of piracetam have paid off for you. It's funny because most people who propagate piracetam speak of its slight to moderate benefits, as I do... but I've never heard of such profound, transcendent, and revolutionary effects... please make sure to tell us where you buy this stuff!!!

And to everyone else reading, beware of stepping in the dog poop.

[rebinator]

well, I can certainly attest to the resultant verbosity, as well as the sleep, uh, density. As far as the mania... I suppose that can be channelled into one of any sort(s) of productivity.

As for me, the stuff mainly serves as a possible placebo. The best nootropic I've ever used is abstinence from alcohol and caffeine. The runner up is a moderate dosage of long chain EFA's.

subjective effects from racetams on my part include a similar dream where I was conversing with one of my heroes like a coworker, as well as wake-time physical sensory enhancement, but such phenomena are quite inconclusive...

And all you name-calling accusers should step back a bit... that's quite unnecessarily cowardly, don't you agree? At least show some kind of evidence! Oh, I forgot, this is the Internet...

Edited by rebinator, 07 November 2013 - 04:36 AM.

[NZT-49]

I for one very much enjoy reading Iso's posts and the infinite knowledge they deliver.

[Babychris]

I wish I could came back to the time were I was manic as Isochroma was. But after a serious PTSD I think that is not for today.
Anyway much of us are probably jealous of what is isochroma was living.

[BlueCloud]

For the nostalgics about Isochroma's surrealistic writings, he is still active on this forum as .. hum... " Isochroma_Reborn" :-)
But I'm not sure his writings are destined for us mere mortals, they are just documenting his escalation into Godliness.

Edited by BlueCloud, 07 November 2013 - 08:23 PM.

[Geoffrey]

Is anyone still taking racetams at night before sleep? After stopping all nootropic intake for a couple of weeks, to wash them out of my system and reset, I decided to go back to good ol' piracetam, in order to finish an unused supply from some time ago. The reason I'd moved on from piracetam in the first place is because it always made me so sleepy. Even 600mg taken during the day had me yawning and unable to keep my eyelids open. I tried it again and sure enough, wham, I find myself having to take a nap half an hour or so after ingesting a 1200mg pill. Bizarre. So I figured, since its effect is so strong, why not use it as a sleeping pill? For the last two nights, I've been taking 600mg (half a pill) right before sleep. Both times I've slept very soundly with quite vivid, but not unusually exciting, dreams, and feeling fresh and lucid in the morning. Other than that, all I've felt are the usual mild increase in the flow of memories and some slight brightening of shiny objects. I wonder if this might be a good way to obtain the long-term benefits of piracetam without the draining/fatiguing side effects.