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[Blue]

I still want to disagree with you.

A study that compares MCTs and Olive Oil:


Weight-loss diet that includes consumption of medium-chain triacylglycerol oil leads to a greater rate of weight and fat mass loss than does olive oil.
St-Onge MP, Bosarge A.

College of Physicians and Surgeons, Columbia University and New York Obesity Research Center, St Luke's/Roosevelt Hospital, New York, NY 10025, USA. ms2554@columbia.edu

BACKGROUND: Clinical studies have shown that consumption of medium-chain triacylglycerols (MCTs) leads to greater energy expenditure than does consumption of long-chain triacylglycerols. Such studies suggest that MCT consumption may be useful for weight management. OBJECTIVE: We aimed to determine whether consumption of MCT oil improves body weight and fat loss compared with olive oil when consumed as part of a weight-loss program. DESIGN: Forty-nine overweight men and women, aged 19-50 y, consumed either 18-24 g/d of MCT oil or olive oil as part of a weight-loss program for 16 wk. Subjects received weekly group weight-loss counseling. Body weight and waist circumference were measured weekly. Adipose tissue distribution was assessed at baseline and at the endpoint by use of dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry and computed tomography. RESULTS: Thirty-one subjects completed the study (body mass index: 29.8 +/- 0.4, in kg/m(2)). MCT oil consumption resulted in lower endpoint body weight than did olive oil (-1.67 +/- 0.67 kg, unadjusted P = 0.013). There was a trend toward greater loss of fat mass (P = 0.071) and trunk fat mass (P = 0.10) with MCT consumption than with olive oil. Endpoint trunk fat mass, total fat mass, and intraabdominal adipose tissue were all lower with MCT consumption than with olive oil consumption (all unadjusted P values < 0.05). CONCLUSIONS: Consumption of MCT oil as part of a weight-loss plan improves weight loss compared with olive oil and can thus be successfully included in a weight-loss diet. Small changes in the quality of fat intake can therefore be useful to enhance weight loss.

PMID: 18326600 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]





Dietary mono- and polyunsaturated fatty acids similarly affect LDL size in healthy men and women.

Kratz M, et al. J Nutr. 2002 Apr;132(4):715-8.

The goal of this study was to investigate the effect of the dietary fat composition on LDL peak particle diameter. Therefore, we measured LDL size by gradient gel electrophoresis in 56 (30 men, 26 women) healthy participants in a controlled dietary study. First, all participants received a baseline diet rich in saturated fat for 2 wk; they were then randomly assigned to one of three dietary treatments, which contained refined olive oil [rich in monounsaturated fatty acids (MUFA), n = 18], rapeseed oil [rich in MUFA and (n-3)-polyunsaturated fatty acids (PUFA), n = 18], or sunflower oil [rich in (n-6)-PUFA, n = 20] as the principal source of fat for 4 wk. Repeated-measures ANOVA revealed a small, but significant reduction in LDL size during the oil diet phase (-0.36 nm, P = 0.012), which did not differ significantly among the three groups (P = 0.384). Furthermore, affiliation with one of the three diet groups did not contribute significantly to the observed variation in LDL size (P = 0.690). In conclusion, our data indicate that dietary unsaturated fat similarly R E D U C E S LDL size relative to saturated fat. However, the small magnitude of this reduction also suggests that the composition of dietary fat is not a major factor affecting LDL size.
PMID: 11925466

None of these studies used coconut oil. The first used MCT. Coconut oil has some of these but much else also. Refined olive oil is as in the second study is likely unhealthy. One complaint regarding the studies I have mentioned which found coconut oil inferior was that they may possibly have used refined coconut oil, so no double standard please. Also, regarding the first study, greater shorter short-term weight loss is nice but says little regarding more long-term metabolic variables under stable weight. Like many short-term studies finding greater weight-loss and improved related variables from high-fat diets but when extended to one-year studies with stable weight the differences to high-carbohydrate diets disappear on many variables. Regarding LDL size, that is likely an unimportant variable.

Edited by Blue, 17 November 2009 - 12:38 PM.

[hamishm00]

The animal pharm blog refers to the first study above as being a coconut oil study, that's why I quoted it. Did you read the full study?

I take the point on the refined oil double standard.

Edited by hamishm00, 22 November 2009 - 10:45 AM.

[RighteousReason]

So is coconut oil good or not?

[drmz]

Wet and dry extraction of coconut oil: impact on lipid metabolic and antioxidant status in cholesterol coadministered rats.
Nevin KG, Rajamohan T.

Department of Biochemistry, University of Kerala, Kariavattom, Thiruvananthapuram, Kerala 695 581, India.

Because coconut oil extracted by wet process (virgin coconut oil, VCO) is gaining popularity among consumers, this study was conducted to evaluate VCO compared with coconut oil extracted by dry process (copra oil, CO) for their influence on lipid parameters, lipid peroxidation, and antioxidant status in rats coadministered with cholesterol. VCO, CO, and cholesterol were fed in a semi-synthetic diet to 24 male Sprague-Dawley rats for 45 days. After the experimental period, lipid and lipid peroxide levels and antioxidant enzyme activities were observed. Chemical composition and antioxidant properties of the polyphenolic fraction from VCO and CO were also analyzed. The results showed that lipid and lipid peroxide levels were lower in VCO-fed animals than in animals fed either CO or cholesterol alone. Antioxidant enzyme activities in VCO-fed animals were comparable with those in control animals. Although the fatty acid profiles of both oils were similar, a significantly higher level of unsaponifiable components was observed in VCO. Polyphenols from VCO also showed significant radical-scavenging activity compared with those from CO. This study clearly indicates the potential benefits of VCO over CO in maintaining lipid metabolism and antioxidant status. These effects may be attributed in part to the presence of biologically active minor unsaponifiable components.


Effect of High Fat Diet Without Cholesterol Supplementation on Oxidative Stress and Lipid Peroxidation in New Zealand White Rabbits.
P S, Vasudevan D, Kamath P.

Department of Biochemistry, Amrita School of Medicine.

Aim: Dietary fats may affect coronary artery disease risk by influencing factors other than serum cho-lesterol. The effect of diets containing coconut oil and sunflower oil without cholesterol supplemen-tation on oxidative stress and lipid peroxidation were studied in male New Zealand White rabbits.Methods: Animals assigned to four groups (control, cholesterol-fed, coconut oil-fed and sunflower oil-fed), given an isocaloric diet and studied for 6 months. The lipid profile, reduced glutathione, glutathione peroxidase, superoxide dismutase, vitamin C and lipid peroxidation were evaluated at the beginning of the study, at the third month and at the end of the study period.Results: Serum lipid values did not show significant variation between animals fed coconut oil and sunflower oil, but total cholesterol, triglycerides and LDL-cholesterol were significantly higher and HDL-cholesterol was reduced in cholesterol-fed animals. Lipid peroxidation was higher in choles-terol-fed and sunflower oil-fed rabbits compared to controls and coconut oil-fed rabbits. Though other parameters such as reduced glutathione, glutathione peroxidase, superoxide dismutase and ascorbate did not vary between the two oil-fed rabbit groups, cholesterol-fed rabbits showed severe oxidative stress.Conclusion: We conclude that in the absence of cholesterol supplementation, coconut oil intake up to 30% of daily energy supply did not cause hypercholesterolemia or oxidative stress in rabbits.

[mongfu]

Can some of you guys post your coconut oil/ whey protein recipes?

Thanks

[Jay]

Can some of you guys post your coconut oil/ whey protein recipes?

Thanks

And if you do, can you explain how to prevent it from gumming up. I tried to add whey to liquified coconut oil but the combo became sludge immediately.

[yoyo]

Can some of you guys post your coconut oil/ whey protein recipes?

Thanks

And if you do, can you explain how to prevent it from gumming up. I tried to add whey to liquified coconut oil but the combo became sludge immediately.

i add some molasses and honey to the coconut milk and whey protein, almond slices, and oats together, then mix until it is a big gummy lump, smooth onto baking sheet, and baking in oven until dry for granola

thats with coconut milk though

it helps to warm the liquid mix in the microwave, it makes it runnier

[TheFountain]

How do they take the smell out of products like this?

100% organic? No hydrogenation. Why no taste or smell then?

Edited by TheFountain, 04 March 2010 - 12:31 PM.

[jolly]

Can some of you guys post your coconut oil/ whey protein recipes?

Thanks

Try this - http://cisnotc.wordp...t-butter-bites/

[hallucinogen]

ALL Olive Oil is complete SHiT, i tried it on MANY MANY occasions,

Olive oil contains about 75% OMEGA 9, yes Omega 9, and only about 25% of Omega-6,
Omega-9 is non essential, body can make it,

on EVERY occasion of consuming olive oil, my physical endurance, stamina, etc, and memory went to complete shit .
and i even had slightly blurry vision, i can notice it because i notice everything, most people wont notice it though,

anyways, grapeseeid oil is a much better alternative, it's 75% omega-6,

but all i use now is virgin coconut oil and don't overheat it ! it's smoking point is only 177C Degrees !
so put a splash of water on it if you are frying stuff with it, and cover it with a lid or something, very important

[hippocampus]

is it good to take probiotics with coconut oil since it's antimicrobial?

[hippocampus]

http://www.cocoscien...aymond_peat.pdf
http://coconut-info....ood_for_you.htm

"Peat theorizes that coconut oil may have antioxidant properties, since the oil doesn't turn rancid and since it reduces our need for vitamin E, whereas unsaturated oils deplete vitamin E."

is this true? does somebody know more about this?

[yoyo]

http://www.cocoscien...aymond_peat.pdf
http://coconut-info....ood_for_you.htm

"Peat theorizes that coconut oil may have antioxidant properties, since the oil doesn't turn rancid and since it reduces our need for vitamin E, whereas unsaturated oils deplete vitamin E."

is this true? does somebody know more about this?

saturated oil doesn't need antioxidants since they are not prone to oxidation. i don't think coconut oil has a notable quantity of antioxidants. The 'reduced need for Vitamin E' in vivo sounds plausible, but i'm not really sure how you would even measure it.

[zorba990]

Three studies comparing coconut oil to other oils. Coconut oil was was worse in every case. I will not be switching.

In a second study, animals were fed on the atherogenic diet for 10 weeks, transferred to diets containing either coconut oil (150 g/kg diet) or olive oil (150 g/kg diet) without added cholesterol and monitored for up to 16 weeks. In the ascending aorta, lesion size doubled in animals fed on coconut oil but stabilized in those fed on olive oil. In the aortic arch,

150g/kg is that right? That doesn't sound like an amount I could eat.
It would be good to see some tightly controlled (organic, cold pressed, unheated, unbleached) new studies on coconut oil.

[zorba990]

ALL Olive Oil is complete SHiT, i tried it on MANY MANY occasions,

Olive oil contains about 75% OMEGA 9, yes Omega 9, and only about 25% of Omega-6,
Omega-9 is non essential, body can make it,

on EVERY occasion of consuming olive oil, my physical endurance, stamina, etc, and memory went to complete shit .
and i even had slightly blurry vision, i can notice it because i notice everything, most people wont notice it though,

anyways, grapeseeid oil is a much better alternative, it's 75% omega-6,

but all i use now is virgin coconut oil and don't overheat it ! it's smoking point is only 177C Degrees !
so put a splash of water on it if you are frying stuff with it, and cover it with a lid or something, very important

My experience is similar. Olive oil makes me ill. Coconut oil digests without issue and seems to help. I've done intense workouts in the am on nothing but coconut oil.

[Yornaldo]

Coconut oil has lot of benefits. it is best for long hair. It makes hair strong and healthy. I always use coconut oil on my hair. Anyway nice posts. thanks everyone for sharing.

[Mind]

I started using coconut oil about 3 years ago. I like it for some dishes. I haven't noticed any negative effects, but neither have I gotten any aging bio-marker tests, so take it for what it is.

I have shared a couple recipes elsewhere, but I am not sure if I shared this one. Unfortunately, one of the ingredients is not available commercially (cranberries). I make a breakfast bar with coconut oil, molasses, whole old fashioned uncooked oatmeal, cocoa powder, powdered protein, cinnamon, crushed dried unsweetened cranberries, crushed dried blueberries. I sometimes add peanut butter (I know, I am a paleo "sinner" with the peanut butter, lol). Add some stevia if you like it a little sweeter. No need to cook it. I mix it up in pot. Melt the coconut oil (and peanut butter) first. Then mix in the dry ingredients. Put the mixture in a pan. Once it is cool, cut it into squares. Store them in the freezer.

[MateuszMoore]

Thanks for sharing your post here. The health benefits of Coconut oil include hair care, skin care, stress relief, maintaining cholesterol levels, weight loss, increased immunity, proper digestion and metabolism, relief from kidney problems, heart diseases, high blood pressure, Diabetes, HIV and Cancer, dental care, and bone strength.

[zorba990]

Thanks for sharing your post here. The health benefits of Coconut oil include hair care, skin care, stress relief, maintaining cholesterol levels, weight loss, increased immunity, proper digestion and metabolism, relief from kidney problems, heart diseases, high blood pressure, Diabetes, HIV and Cancer, dental care, and bone strength.

References?

I like coconut oil but I would really like to see many of the more fringe claims backed up a bit. Kidney problems? Dental care?

[hallucinogen]

COCONUT Oil is the Devil, EVERY Single time i take even a teaspoon, the first thing it does is CONSTRICTS ALL the Blood Vessels in my body, even making parts of my body just FALL ASLEEP,
the effect is very clear and is there every time i try to take it,
i have recently got hospitalized with a super irregular heart-beat + arterial fibrillation , partly because i blended brown rice with 2 tablespoons of coconut oil, and consumed 2 portions of that in a day,
it was REALLY Scary, woke up in the middle of the night when my body reached high enough temperature in the bed and all my meal started digesting at once,
those fats in coconut oil plugged in something MAJOR, that even my brain impulses to heart got askew.....

anyways, i'm still recovering, - STAY AWAY From Coconut oil, Clarified butter is a little bit better substitute, but ANY of those fats dumb you down, space you out,
and disconnect you from reality and higher mental processes !

So i ONLY eat cooked buckwheat during day now, with a tablespoon of flax seed oil just before night, properly stored, organic and unrefined,
i get ALL my omega and fats requirements from that and i feel like a super saiyan being ! (:

Also, - get organic raw GROATS, blend them in your blender into fine flour,
mix it in with 1/5 parts buckwheat flour,
add spring water + juice of 1 lemon,
add 1 capsule of Lactobacillus and Bifidus probiotics,
mix it all into a thick pancake dough consistency,
lets stand for 12-24 hours to reduce all the phytic acid,

-> Enjoy FOOD OF THE Olympic GODS !

RAW Oats contain NO GLUTEN btw,

Astounding Health Benefits of RaW Oats !




http://www.truehealt...ads/rawoats.pdf

Grains in Relation to Celiac (Coeliac) Disease
Donald D. Kasarda
http://truemedicine....enandceliac.PDF

Edited by hallucinogen, 02 March 2012 - 10:08 AM.

[hallucinogen]

Thanks for sharing your post here. The health benefits of Coconut oil include hair care, skin care, stress relief, maintaining cholesterol levels, weight loss, increased immunity, proper digestion and metabolism, relief from kidney problems, heart diseases, high blood pressure, Diabetes, HIV and Cancer, dental care, and bone strength.

This is the biggest load of BS put together from unreliable sources,
first and foremost of all, there have been studies done that showed that after even a single consumption of saturated fats in the coconut oil, Blood Arteries constrict for Hours, this RAiSiNG the Blood Pressure, you can even FEEL Your heart pumping stronger if you feel your pulse after eating coconut oil .... in the conclusion - IT IS NOT WORTH Consuming ANY Coconut oil, stay away from that crap, there are WAY Better alternatives like Flax Oil that actually provides you with essential Omega 3 fattys acids plus more .

i will find that study for you, it's somewhere in my archives, - but they are doing this on Purpose, - they are Promoting stuff that's bad for us just for sales,
Always listen to your body, your heart and your soul first !

if something just does not feel right, - it probably is not !

[niner]

COCONUT Oil is the Devil, EVERY Single time i take even a teaspoon, the first thing it does is CONSTRICTS ALL the Blood Vessels in my body, even making parts of my body just FALL ASLEEP,

STAY AWAY From Coconut oil,

Pretty scary episode, hallucinogen- I'm glad you got through it without something really bad happening. I gotta say, though, coconut oil treats me pretty well. If I stayed away from everything that someone somewhere had a bad reaction to, I would starve to death.

[rwac]

i take even a teaspoon, the first thing it does is CONSTRICTS ALL the Blood Vessels in my body

I really wonder if you're allergic to the unrefined stuff.

[Mind]

i take even a teaspoon, the first thing it does is CONSTRICTS ALL the Blood Vessels in my body

I really wonder if you're allergic to the unrefined stuff.

That is what I was thinking too. Food allergy.

[hallucinogen]

i take even a teaspoon, the first thing it does is CONSTRICTS ALL the Blood Vessels in my body

I really wonder if you're allergic to the unrefined stuff.

That is what I was thinking too. Food allergy.

No no no no, i don't have Any food allergies... have you ever even studied biology ?
I can take unrefined Flax oil with no problems at all,
every single fresh fruit and vegetable i can eat without any problems, but again - once you heighten your senses to the highest levels, you will have a much better understanding and feeling when something from your diet manages to dumb them down again,
do you see ?

This is on a pure metabolically biological stage, i've eaten Enough of Coconut oil in my life to know exactly how it digests now,
many experimentations because i don't usually buy into all the "promotional hype" that they are trying to sell us ..
As i said, there has been at least one good study done that showed blood vessel and artery constriction for hours after ingesting coconut oil, - have you even seen that stuff at room temperature ? - have you every tried to WASH it OFF from your hands with Soap ??? It takes like 5 minutes, and you still can't wash it off !

Do you also know why it's hard to find that study on google now ? - because it has been Systematically slowly filtered down and out from search results .

Edited by hallucinogen, 02 March 2012 - 10:23 PM.

[zorba990]

i take even a teaspoon, the first thing it does is CONSTRICTS ALL the Blood Vessels in my body

I really wonder if you're allergic to the unrefined stuff.

That is what I was thinking too. Food allergy.

No no no no, i don't have Any food allergies... have you ever even studied biology ?
I can take unrefined Flax oil with no problems at all,
every single fresh fruit and vegetable i can eat without any problems, but again - once you heighten your senses to the highest levels, you will have a much better understanding and feeling when something from your diet manages to dumb them down again,
do you see ?

This is on a pure metabolically biological stage, i've eaten Enough of Coconut oil in my life to know exactly how it digests now,
many experimentations because i don't usually buy into all the "promotional hype" that they are trying to sell us ..
As i said, there has been at least one good study done that showed blood vessel and artery constriction for hours after ingesting coconut oil, - have you even seen that stuff at room temperature ? - have you every tried to WASH it OFF from your hands with Soap ??? It takes like 5 minutes, and you still can't wash it off !

Do you also know why it's hard to find that study on google now ? - because it has been Systematically slowly filtered down and out from search results .

Wow! This thread get heated at times. Good thing coconut oil can take the heat (lol).

Maybe you are thinking of this olive oil article?
http://www.thevegeta...th_oliveoil.htm

In any case, for me, I find that eliminating too much fat from my diet (as I did in the 80's) causes me numerous problems. I find many unsaturated oils to eventually make me quite ill -- flax being the worst. I just experienced this again with Udo's DHA blend. I suspect that these oils are nearly impossible for me to consume without the majority of the oil becoming rancid inside or outside of the body (for me). I find grains to be inflammatory for me with the exception of oats. I have no problem with raw oats. I have no problem with carlson's fish oils or hydrated chia seed.

In a perfect world I'd only eat things in natures package, like the whole coconut. Eating coconut oil pre-workout doesn't seem to cause any of the negative effects I would expect from vasoconstriction for me, but I consume maybe 1T max anyway. Maybe you have gallbladder/bile issues? What you describe might be a gallbladder attack.

Coconut oil works great for skin issues for me, while vegetable oils consistently cause breakouts.

Everyone is unique. If something makes you ill then don't consume it.

[hallucinogen]

i take even a teaspoon, the first thing it does is CONSTRICTS ALL the Blood Vessels in my body

I really wonder if you're allergic to the unrefined stuff.

That is what I was thinking too. Food allergy.

No no no no, i don't have Any food allergies... have you ever even studied biology ?
I can take unrefined Flax oil with no problems at all,
every single fresh fruit and vegetable i can eat without any problems, but again - once you heighten your senses to the highest levels, you will have a much better understanding and feeling when something from your diet manages to dumb them down again,
do you see ?

This is on a pure metabolically biological stage, i've eaten Enough of Coconut oil in my life to know exactly how it digests now,
many experimentations because i don't usually buy into all the "promotional hype" that they are trying to sell us ..
As i said, there has been at least one good study done that showed blood vessel and artery constriction for hours after ingesting coconut oil, - have you even seen that stuff at room temperature ? - have you every tried to WASH it OFF from your hands with Soap ??? It takes like 5 minutes, and you still can't wash it off !

Do you also know why it's hard to find that study on google now ? - because it has been Systematically slowly filtered down and out from search results .

Wow! This thread get heated at times. Good thing coconut oil can take the heat (lol).

Maybe you are thinking of this olive oil article?
http://www.thevegeta...th_oliveoil.htm

In any case, for me, I find that eliminating too much fat from my diet (as I did in the 80's) causes me numerous problems. I find many unsaturated oils to eventually make me quite ill -- flax being the worst. I just experienced this again with Udo's DHA blend. I suspect that these oils are nearly impossible for me to consume without the majority of the oil becoming rancid inside or outside of the body (for me). I find grains to be inflammatory for me with the exception of oats. I have no problem with raw oats. I have no problem with carlson's fish oils or hydrated chia seed.

In a perfect world I'd only eat things in natures package, like the whole coconut. Eating coconut oil pre-workout doesn't seem to cause any of the negative effects I would expect from vasoconstriction for me, but I consume maybe 1T max anyway. Maybe you have gallbladder/bile issues? What you describe might be a gallbladder attack.

Coconut oil works great for skin issues for me, while vegetable oils consistently cause breakouts.

Everyone is unique. If something makes you ill then don't consume it.

Yes m8y, i tried almost every possible oil out there as well, and vegetable oils usually really suck, and even organic flax oil in that big black glass bottle gave me a few neat side-effects at first, especially making me super sleepy and relaxed ( i gotta stay focused ! no time to relax :p )
but then what you do is - boil whole buckwheat groats for 5-10 mins, drain the water, add a pinch of salt, and just 1 teaspoon or less of flax oil, and MiX iT TOGETHER Very well,
and just eat it before bed because it Will make you sleepy !
No problems whatsoever is experienced that way, and your body really needs that EHA/DHA from flax oil, yes flax oil also has some phytic acid in it, but there is just nothing like it out there, it's godlike, and some phytic acid once a day, especially before bedtime may be beneficial (:

PS. no i don't have any issues... coconut oil does have lots though, you can keep experimenting as i once did until you run into problems though, it's true that everyone reacts different to different substance, but it's also true that we are ONE SPECiES and i'm super healthy, and we should take others' experiences as good examples and advice,
i know everyone thinks he is a special superhuman and nothing can harm them, and everyone wants waste time on re-inventing the wheel ( of Life ;p )

[zorba990]

Yeah I actually own a container of this brand coconut oil (spectrum organic). I tried using it initially with some chocolates and later in a Asian themed meal and it made my stomach hurt for about 24hours. I guess I simply can't tolerate coconut oil :( Tastes good, though

Spectrum oils are sh*t. They used to be good but now, they are not. Just my opinion. Try Artisana.

[sapentia]

COCONUT Oil is the Devil

For you it may be the devil, but that does not mean it is unhealthy or bad for everybody. I eat coconut oil and olive oil every day and they both make me feel great. In addition, the bulk of scientific research is favorable for both of these oils as opposed to your experience. I trust you did not eat hydrogenated coconut oil which is a completely different story and is unhealthy for anyone.

I have studied both biology and chemistry extensively btw

[cheezeweezel]

ALL Olive Oil is complete SHiT, i tried it on MANY MANY occasions,

Olive oil contains about 75% OMEGA 9, yes Omega 9, and only about 25% of Omega-6,
Omega-9 is non essential, body can make it,

on EVERY occasion of consuming olive oil, my physical endurance, stamina, etc, and memory went to complete shit .
and i even had slightly blurry vision, i can notice it because i notice everything, most people wont notice it though,

anyways, grapeseeid oil is a much better alternative, it's 75% omega-6,

but all i use now is virgin coconut oil and don't overheat it ! it's smoking point is only 177C Degrees !
so put a splash of water on it if you are frying stuff with it, and cover it with a lid or something, very important

I don't want to interfere with the coconut oil love parade.

However, if we want to be evidence based, the breadth, depth, and quality of available studies on the positive cardio health and longevity impacts of EVOO consumption is huge. The health benefits of EVOO consumption are one of the best established of any food.

And OF COURSE olive oil has a lot of omega 9. That's the oleic content, baby. Monounsaturated fat (MUFA) IS omega 9. It is the whole point of olive oil (that plus the fact that it is tasty). And regardless of not being 'essential', its health benefit is extraordinarily well documented.

Don't get me wrong. Coconut oil is clearly much better for you than PUFA (PUFA is omega 6 - get the RDI of this essential nutrient from whole vegetable sources, and then minimize overconsumption in oil form). I like coconut oil and use it. But as for EVOO, the evidence in the literature supporting its value dwarfs almost any other food. Southern Europe is on to something here.

However, if you want to use EVOO, keep in mind that while it is exponentially less prone to oxidation than PUFA, it oxidizes easier than saturated fats like coconut oil. (a) don't heat it above smoke point (use coconut oil for hotter temps), (b) get good quality, fresh EVOO from a good source with well established high oleic (omega 9) content, © keep it cool and out of the light, (d) use it up in 6 months.

Coconut oil is also yummy.