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[Houkatou]

Sex:Male
Age:18
Height:5 foot

Is there actually anything else i can do besides surgery/injecting hgh now to grow taller?Ive been exercising and sleeping 8 hours a day but ive not seen any height increase for the past year

[lunarsolarpower]

Sex:Male
Age:18
Height:5 foot

Is there actually anything else i can do besides surgery/injecting hgh now to grow taller?Ive been exercising and sleeping 8 hours a day but ive not seen any height increase for the past year

It's not quite the same, but read this first. The major difference is that it's likely your epiphyseal plates have not yet fused.

[balance]

Try getting 10 hours of sound/deep sleep. Don't exercise with weights as it can actually speed up the plate closing process.. So for exercise, try sticking with some cardio for now. Make sure you get all the vitamins and minerals in proper amounts. That also goes for Iron and Vitamin A. Avoid things like lycopene/resveratrol/etc since they lower IGF-1, which means less growth. Get enough cholesterol, eat lots of complete protein (whey or meat) as it increases IGF-1. Take l-arginine as free base in amounts ranging from 10-30grams before bedtime on an empty stomach to further stimulate growth hormone.

Get adequate iodine and vitamin C. Drink water only (at least avoid soft drinks etc). Though going for testosterone building diets or workout might be great, they will actually make u stop growing sooner... look at Semmy Schilt. He's 2.12 meters but in my opinion looks like a big boy rather than a vicious male. Corny example I know.. but just to give you an idea.

Edited by piet3r, 09 August 2008 - 01:09 AM.

[Houkatou]

Try getting 10 hours of sound/deep sleep. Don't exercise with weights as it can actually speed up the plate closing process.. So for exercise, try sticking with some cardio for now. Make sure you get all the vitamins and minerals in proper amounts. That also goes for Iron and Vitamin A. Avoid things like lycopene/resveratrol/etc since they lower IGF-1, which means less growth. Get enough cholesterol, eat lots of complete protein (whey or meat) as it increases IGF-1. Take l-arginine as free base in amounts ranging from 10-30grams before bedtime on an empty stomach to further stimulate growth hormone.

Get adequate iodine and vitamin C. Drink water only (at least avoid soft drinks etc). Though going for testosterone building diets or workout might be great, they will actually make u stop growing sooner... look at Semmy Schilt. He's 2.12 meters but in my opinion looks like a big boy rather than a vicious male. Corny example I know.. but just to give you an idea.

Would it be ok if i used sandbags for training?Throwing them etc (full body workout)
Wow 10-30grams of arginine before bed isnt cheap>_<I was thinking of melatonin and milk.Will this do?Secondly would it be a good idea if i ate more meat and cut down on my carbs?
Thanks for the tips!

Edited by Houkatou, 09 August 2008 - 03:27 AM.

[Houkatou]

Would it be ok if i switched over to an anabolic diet?My friend gave me a book about it and it seemed interesting

[spacetime]

Quick pubmed scan turned these up which all look pretty interesting. Granted mean age seems to be 15 but perhaps worth a shot noentheless.

1: Pediatrics. 2005 Dec;116(6):1513-5. Links
The use of tamoxifen to improve height potential in short pubertal boys.Kreher NC, Eugster EA, Shankar RR.
Section of Pediatric Endocrinology and Diabetology, Riley Hospital for Children, Indiana University School of Medicine, Indianapolis, Indiana, USA. nkreher@iupui.edu


1: Lancet. 2001 Jun 2;357(9270):1743-8.Related Articles, Links
A specific aromatase inhibitor and potential increase in adult height in boys with delayed puberty: a randomised controlled trial.
Wickman S, Sipil? I, Ankarberg-Lindgren C, Norjavaara E, Dunkel L.
Hospital for Children and Adolescents, University of Helsinki, Ph 281, FIN-00029, Hus, Finland

1: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2008 Mar;93(3):823-31. Epub 2007 Dec 28.

Anastrozole increases predicted adult height of short adolescent males treated
with growth hormone: a randomized, placebo-controlled, multicenter trial for one
to three years.

Mauras N, Gonzalez de Pijem L, Hsiang HY, Desrosiers P, Rapaport R, Schwartz ID,
Klein KO, Singh RJ, Miyamoto A, Bishop K.


1: Pediatrics. 2008 Apr;121(4):e975-83.

Use of aromatase inhibitors in children and adolescents with disorders of growth
and adolescent development.

Shulman DI, Francis GL, Palmert MR, Eugster EA; Lawson Wilkins Pediatric
Endocrine Society Drug and Therapeutics Committee.

1: J Clin Endocrinol Metab. 2005 Dec;90(12):6396-402. Epub 2005 Sep 27.

Inhibition of estrogen biosynthesis with a potent aromatase inhibitor increases
predicted adult height in boys with idiopathic short stature: a randomized
controlled trial.

Hero M, Norjavaara E, Dunkel L.

[Houkatou]

Those are very interesting studies SERMs etc but i highly doubt i would dare touch those.Thanks tho

[aikikai]

Is it possible to increase height in adulthood? From >25 years.

[wayside]

Is it possible to increase height in adulthood? From >25 years.

You can get an operation. It looks exceedingly painful and expensive.

How it works
Person who added 7 inches
International Center for Limb Lengthening

Edited by wayside, 02 October 2008 - 08:14 PM.

[Mixter]

You can boost HGH naturally:

practice dinner cancelling and eat some whey, or even
ornithine, lysine, arginine (or better, their alpha-ketoglutarate)
forms together with melatonin and GABA at bedtime.
During the day: stretching, running, resistance exercise.

However, gaining height is a perfectly valid reason to
inject real hgh. I would do 3 months on, 6 months off with
regular blood tests (every 2 weeks).

I would guess that an inversion table will help there, too.

[hamishm00]

I grew 2cm from 25-33. Measuring both in the mornings (slightly taller) and in the evenings (slightly shorter)

[REGIMEN]

Does anyone have any info on Height as it relates to different diseases? Such as lower incidence of heart disease in a certain height bracket? I would look into research that points in this direction before worrying about the superficial and pervasive "short is undesirable" idea.

You'll most likely have an easier time building muscle mass.
You'll need less calories/food to work as efficiently as taller people.
You'll have a lower incidence of diet related diseases which are mainly caused by the higher caloric needs of taller people.

Generalities, sure, but let's knock them down with more than just, "there aren't any studies that show that..."

http://www.imminst.o...showtopic=22183

Edited by REGIMEN, 03 October 2008 - 06:55 PM.

[GoodFellas]

Avoid things like lycopene/resveratrol/etc since they lower IGF-1, which means less growth.

Didn't know that one should avoid lycopene/reservatrol, any other supplements that could mean less growth?

I grew 2cm from 25-33. Measuring both in the mornings (slightly taller) and in the evenings (slightly shorter)

I seriously doubt that. I've been reading a lot about height over at the grow-taller forum, and most growth plates are closed within about 19-20 years. The last ones closes at 25, however that's very few people. Anyway I hope you're right though maybe I can gain some extra height then too:). Did you do anything else when you were 25-33?

[tunt01]

final height is not as important as having a "full bone structure". final height is just symptom of your overall development.

if you are 5'7" but have a constitutionally strong bone structure (strong/full forearm/wrists, fully developed hands, full/strong femur length), then you are fine and the rest is just cosmetic and personal insecurities.

[nancyd]

Is it possible to increase height in adulthood? From >25 years.

I grew 1/2" at 25. I grew another 1/4" after 30. (I think the 1/2" at 25 makes sense because I started to get better nutrition right at that time. Prior to that I had extreme deficiencies. However, the 1/4" is perplexing to me.)

Edited by nancyd, 04 April 2009 - 09:01 PM.

[GoodFellas]

However, the 1/4" is perplexing to me.)

Sounds pretty weird to me too, but congrats!

Btw the harder your bed is and the longer you sleep in the morning the taller you will appear THAT day.

[balance]

You asked whether there are any other supplements that could hamper growth. I'd say any supplement that decreases the needed growth factors or mimics caloric restriction, including caloric restriction itself obviously.

But to add to that list:

1. Quercetin
2. Lipoic acid.

[GoodFellas]

You asked whether there are any other supplements that could hamper growth. I'd say any supplement that decreases the needed growth factors or mimics caloric restriction, including caloric restriction itself obviously.

But to add to that list:

1. Quercetin
2. Lipoic acid.

What about Lutein,CoQ10 and Oral Glucosamine?

[balance]

CoQ10 at your age seems useless (production peaks till age 20, slowly goes down and supplementation seems good at 30 onwards). Same for glucosamine (which is useless anyways, with the exception of some trials). Lutein I don't know but I'd be wary about any carotenoids as they may decrease IGF-1 or other growth factors (think lycopene).

What you want is high intake of whey protein and/or cow milk, and no IGF-1 killers, you want to boost your GH surge with l-arginine free base at night empty stomach, large dose, and try to limit sugar intake as much as possible.

Edited by piet3r, 06 April 2009 - 09:38 AM.

[nowayout]

Be careful of l-Arginine. It seems that long-term supplementation (6 months) can cause vascular damage. At least, the following study strongly suggests this. It shows that l-Arginine over six months was significantly worse than placebo for peripheral arterial function.

http://circ.ahajourn.../full/116/2/188

Edited by andre, 06 April 2009 - 11:53 AM.

[GoodFellas]

CoQ10 at your age seems useless (production peaks till age 20, slowly goes down and supplementation seems good at 30 onwards). Same for glucosamine (which is useless anyways, with the exception of some trials). Lutein I don't know but I'd be wary about any carotenoids as they may decrease IGF-1 or other growth factors (think lycopene).

Both CoQ10, Lutein and Glucosamine are great for better skin and hair quality. My growth plates are closed anyway, so what's wroing with decreased IGF-1 then?

[nowayout]

However, gaining height is a perfectly valid reason to
inject real hgh. I would do 3 months on, 6 months off with
regular blood tests (every 2 weeks).

It should go without saying that HGH therapy should never ever be done unless under a responsible doctor's supervision.

[balance]

This is a thread about INCREASING height, that's what's wrong with it. You want IGF-1 for growth. Also, cancer fuels on IGF-1. And keep in mind that a partial effect of resveratrol's longevity is reduction of IGF-1 levels.

Edited by piet3r, 06 April 2009 - 03:45 PM.

[jessicantique]

the followings are copied from wikipedia:the action of igf-1


""Its primary action is mediated by binding to specific IGF receptors present on many cell types in many tissues. The signal is transduced by intracellular events. IGF-1 is one of the most potent natural activators of the AKT signaling pathway, a stimulator of cell growth and multiplication and a potent inhibitor of programmed cell death.""

that is , if my diet is lacking protein, then my level of ifg-1 will be significantly lower , and the programmed cell dealth will be accelerated, comparing with a high protein diet?

[jessicantique]

if these - Quercetin, Lipoic acid, lycopene, resveratrol are anti-growing (hamper igf-1)


from what i heard, they all claimed to be anti-aging agents,
so the mechanism of anti-aging = anti-growing??
assume someone with a very low protein diet, then will he suffer from minimal cell division, that is he/she is not growing new cells (or in a lower rate) , and the old one die more slowly?






as

Edited by jessicantique, 06 April 2009 - 05:09 PM.

[supernoober]

MEGABUMP

I turned 19 a few weeks ago and I'm trying to maximize my growth before my epiphyseal plates close. How do I know when they close? I lift weights a lot so I may have high testosterone. I also take a lot of Whey Protein and Casein Protein, and ZMA before I sleep.

Should I take: L-arginine Ethyl ester? or regular? L-lysine?

Would oral GABA work? It does not cross the Blood Brain Barrier though...

melatonin?

HELP!!!!! I want a little more height, more developed bones, and a wider Jawline for sexiness.

[russianBEAR]

I grew quite a bit (according to the many people who I've interacted with during that time) when I was around 22 years old.

What was weird is all the comments about "oh my you've grown more" have come when I was on a cerebrolysine "cycle". 

But who knows if there's a direct correlation since technically people do grow until about 25-26 anyways.

Plus there are many unexpected occurences here too like I've read alot about people just having ridiculous growth spurts either earlier or later than most. Maybe you're in that ballclub

[RighteousReason]

You can boost HGH naturally:

practice dinner cancelling and eat some whey, or even
ornithine, lysine, arginine (or better, their alpha-ketoglutarate)
forms together with melatonin and GABA at bedtime.
During the day: stretching, running, resistance exercise.

However, gaining height is a perfectly valid reason to
inject real hgh. I would do 3 months on, 6 months off with
regular blood tests (every 2 weeks).

I would guess that an inversion table will help there, too.

Interestingly if you google "dinner cancelling hgh" this is the third result out there... what justification do you have for this claim?

[david ellis]

Sex:Male
Age:18
Height:5 foot

Is there actually anything else i can do besides surgery/injecting hgh now to grow taller?Ive been exercising and sleeping 8 hours a day but ive not seen any height increase for the past year

The best chance you have of more height is HGH. Here is a link to some discussion about HGH and height. Ellis Toussier is a Mexican national that sells brand name Human Growth Hormone. If you search Yahoo groups you will find other folks who want to be taller. The window for more height is rapidly closing for you, the thread I linked to recommends using Arimdex to reduce estrogen to keep the growth plates from hardening. People take HGH for strength, anti-aging, and health, young and old. I think there is nothing wrong to use it to grow taller. It is a moral choice.

[RighteousReason]

Interestingly if you google "dinner cancelling hgh" this is the third result out there... what justification do you have for this claim?

I was actually referring to your imminst post I quoted specifically being the third result on google.

I would have just editted my last post to put that in but I think the admins have actually *lowered* the already ridiculously low amount of edit time you get. And as a bonus it looks like the admins have stopped allowing previous replies to nest in later replies- it's amazing, the admins of this site truly do find a way to actually make the forums *worse* every day. Amazing

Edited by RighteousReason, 13 July 2009 - 10:29 PM.