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[Matt]

I've hardly ever had any sun exposure... especially during mid day sun. Usually always around 5-6PM onwards. i was always a night person, maybe im some vampire or something ( i also live in the UK

Edited by Matt, 06 October 2009 - 10:49 PM.

[Skötkonung]

I've hardly ever had any sun exposure... especially during mid day sun. Usually always around 5-6PM onwards. i was always a night person, maybe im some vampire or something ( i also live in the UK

Lucky you and your northern latitude. I spent most of my childhood in N Europe. But then we moved to the US. I've probably long since undone the benefits of those years. I think Portland is similar N location to S France? Not bad, but could be better.

[JLL]

the main difference i notice between me and my friends is they seem to have 'thicker' looking skin, is that what happens when you mature. The type or ratios of collagen change? Mine seems to be more thin and soft. Child skin has more type III and your skin changes I believe upto age 35 when it reaches its peak in terms of strength and whatever. Does anyone know much more about this?

http://www.smartskin...y_collagen.html

With normal aging, the skin gets thinner, but photodamage actually increases skin thickness (due to increased elastin) and gives it that rough, leathery look.

[TheFountain]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

[Matt]

RALPH MACCHIO VIDEO

I don't think i've seen a person his age look so young before! (edit; I think this was 3 years ago actually ). still good!

Edited by Matt, 13 October 2009 - 03:20 PM.

[forever freedom]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

[TheFountain]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

I'd say closer to 30 than 40. But if you think closer to 40 what would give that impression? I see nothing in her face that resembles an average 40 year old. Not even 35 really.

[TheFountain]

RALPH MACCHIO VIDEO

I don't think i've seen a person his age look so young before! (edit; I think this was 3 years ago actually ). still good!

For people like him I think it is very important to see them in motion to get a full idea of how old they look. I have seen still photos of him in which he looks a fair bit older than in any video, but still younger than his age of course. I just think he looks younger in motion than still.

[forever freedom]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

I'd say closer to 30 than 40. But if you think closer to 40 what would give that impression? I see nothing in her face that resembles an average 40 year old. Not even 35 really.

Many (most?) 40 year olds nowadays don't have wrinkles either; she just looks like someone in her later 30s to me.

[TheFountain]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

I'd say closer to 30 than 40. But if you think closer to 40 what would give that impression? I see nothing in her face that resembles an average 40 year old. Not even 35 really.

Many (most?) 40 year olds nowadays don't have wrinkles either; she just looks like someone in her later 30s to me.

But you are not identifying what, to you, makes her face look late 30s. To me it looks about 30-32. Since you're not identifying your criterion of measurement I will identify mine. She hasn't lost alot of collagen, especially around the eyes. No pronounced nasolabial folds, no discolorations, no lines on the forehead and generally her face is not even slightly sunken in, she doesn't seem to have any furrows or shadows anywhere. So what is your identifying marker for late 30s?

Edited by TheFountain, 13 October 2009 - 05:09 PM.

[Matt]

For people like him I think it is very important to see them in motion to get a full idea of how old they look. I have seen still photos of him in which he looks a fair bit older than in any video, but still younger than his age of course. I just think he looks younger in motion than still.

This is no different for me aswell... I always look YOUNGER in video and in real life than I ever have in any photo....

Edited by Matt, 13 October 2009 - 08:27 PM.

[Matt]

for what its worth.... I think girls are far more difficult to say how old they look....

see a girl without make up, see a girl with make up.... make up can't cover everything, but it can help some girls look FARRR better.

[JLL]

Again, I think she could be taken for 40 (albeit a young-looking 40-year-old) because of hair hairstyle and clothes. If she had longer hair and dressed like a teenager people might take her for under 30.

EDIT: Also, her body shape resembles that of an older woman. She's in good shape, but compare that to someone who's 30 and in shape. They're thinner around the waist.

Edited by JLL, 13 October 2009 - 06:15 PM.

[miklu]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

I'd say closer to 30 than 40. But if you think closer to 40 what would give that impression? I see nothing in her face that resembles an average 40 year old. Not even 35 really.

Many (most?) 40 year olds nowadays don't have wrinkles either; she just looks like someone in her later 30s to me.

But you are not identifying what, to you, makes her face look late 30s. To me it looks about 30-32. Since you're not identifying your criterion of measurement I will identify mine. She hasn't lost alot of collagen, especially around the eyes. No pronounced nasolabial folds, no discolorations, no lines on the forehead and generally her face is not even slightly sunken in, she doesn't seem to have any furrows or shadows anywhere. So what is your identifying marker for late 30s?

Most people don't possess the vocabulary to describe detailed aging features. It's hard to describe something for which there are no words.

Anyway, for me, the devil is not in her face, but her neck. The tendons/ligaments/muscles/whatever look perpetually tensed. IMHO, this type of "sinewy" neck is a dead giveaway for (a thin woman, at least) being closer to 40.

(In a turtleneck, she would look years younger still.)

[kenj]

TheFountain et al.,

to prevent cluttering the thread/'thread inflation'; no need to quote the full picture(s) post, when making a reply. When a thread grows to multiple pages, maybe we can all help keep it tight by concretizing our quotations. (maybe I need a quicker browser, too ))

In response to the Ralph Macchio video, I just utubed posterboy 'Scott Wolf' for a recent clip, he's 40 (IIRC):

Wicked thread.

[immortali457]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

I'd say closer to 30 than 40. But if you think closer to 40 what would give that impression? I see nothing in her face that resembles an average 40 year old. Not even 35 really.

Many (most?) 40 year olds nowadays don't have wrinkles either; she just looks like someone in her later 30s to me.

Umm you got that backwards....most 40 year old nowadays do have wrinkles.

[TheFountain]

Again, I think she could be taken for 40 (albeit a young-looking 40-year-old) because of hair hairstyle and clothes. If she had longer hair and dressed like a teenager people might take her for under 30.

EDIT: Also, her body shape resembles that of an older woman. She's in good shape, but compare that to someone who's 30 and in shape. They're thinner around the waist.

What? First of all I do not notice what you are noticing as the woman looks like she does pilates or yoga of some kind and I know 25 year old women who do these two and have less of a hour glass shape because of overall evened out fat loss. The host of 'pilates your way' comes to mind. Very young but very lacking in womanly shape. I wasn't focusing on hairstyle I was focusing on her actual features. I think in this instance you're placing too much emphasis on clothing+hair and the effect they have on how old someone appears.

[TheFountain]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

I'd say closer to 30 than 40. But if you think closer to 40 what would give that impression? I see nothing in her face that resembles an average 40 year old. Not even 35 really.

Many (most?) 40 year olds nowadays don't have wrinkles either; she just looks like someone in her later 30s to me.

But you are not identifying what, to you, makes her face look late 30s. To me it looks about 30-32. Since you're not identifying your criterion of measurement I will identify mine. She hasn't lost alot of collagen, especially around the eyes. No pronounced nasolabial folds, no discolorations, no lines on the forehead and generally her face is not even slightly sunken in, she doesn't seem to have any furrows or shadows anywhere. So what is your identifying marker for late 30s?

Most people don't possess the vocabulary to describe detailed aging features. It's hard to describe something for which there are no words.

Anyway, for me, the devil is not in her face, but her neck. The tendons/ligaments/muscles/whatever look perpetually tensed. IMHO, this type of "sinewy" neck is a dead giveaway for (a thin woman, at least) being closer to 40.

(In a turtleneck, she would look years younger still.)

Have you ever seen a 25 year old female practitioner of pilates who also does lots of aerobic exercises? Their necks tend to be just as sinewy as hers. Besides I know what you're talking about and I do not think she has it as bad as most women are age. To say she looks 40 is overestimating IMO

[TheFountain]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

I'd say closer to 30 than 40. But if you think closer to 40 what would give that impression? I see nothing in her face that resembles an average 40 year old. Not even 35 really.

Many (most?) 40 year olds nowadays don't have wrinkles either; she just looks like someone in her later 30s to me.

Umm you got that backwards....most 40 year old nowadays do have wrinkles.

Yea I have no idea where he got that from. Where I am from most people look horrid by the age of 40 so he must live on another planet where 40 is the new 20.

[TheFountain]

Roxanne Dawson who played 'Be'lanna Torres on StarTrek Voyager, 51 years of age, looks no older than 30.

I'd say between 30 and 40. Still good, though.

I'd say closer to 30 than 40. But if you think closer to 40 what would give that impression? I see nothing in her face that resembles an average 40 year old. Not even 35 really.

Many (most?) 40 year olds nowadays don't have wrinkles either; she just looks like someone in her later 30s to me.

But you are not identifying what, to you, makes her face look late 30s. To me it looks about 30-32. Since you're not identifying your criterion of measurement I will identify mine. She hasn't lost alot of collagen, especially around the eyes. No pronounced nasolabial folds, no discolorations, no lines on the forehead and generally her face is not even slightly sunken in, she doesn't seem to have any furrows or shadows anywhere. So what is your identifying marker for late 30s?

Most people don't possess the vocabulary to describe detailed aging features. It's hard to describe something for which there are no words.

Anyway, for me, the devil is not in her face, but her neck. The tendons/ligaments/muscles/whatever look perpetually tensed. IMHO, this type of "sinewy" neck is a dead giveaway for (a thin woman, at least) being closer to 40.

(In a turtleneck, she would look years younger still.)

Have you ever seen a 25 year old female practitioner of pilates who also does lots of aerobic exercises? Their necks tend to be just as sinewy as hers. Besides I know what you're talking about and I do not think she has it as bad as most women are age. To say she looks 40 is overestimating IMO

*most women her age*

odd, I am pretty sure that is what I typed.

Note: I have had this happen on a couple of other posts where I am pretty damn sure I typed a specific word and then an hour later another word appears in its place. Could it be a script error?

Edited by TheFountain, 14 October 2009 - 04:50 AM.

[tintinet]

Early onset dementia?

The best proof reader is some one other than the writer of the original text. You may imagine you see what you thought you wrote, rather than what's actually on the page.

[TheFountain]

Early onset dementia?

The best proof reader is some one other than the writer of the original text. You may imagine you see what you thought you wrote, rather than what's actually on the page.

eh I notice that I sometimes subconsciously type words that sound similar to the word I intend to type but do not realize it till I read it back. But anyway, staying on topic here is another picture of Roxanne Dawson with a slightly different haircut, but I have no idea how old she was here..

Edited by TheFountain, 15 October 2009 - 10:32 AM.

[Skötkonung]

The lack of photo quality in this thread is hurting our analysis. For instace, a guy I see at the gym named Stephen (he's an artist, website at www.stephenscottsmith.com) is aged 36. He looks very young to me, in person. Much younger than the average 30-something.

In a small, low-quality photo he might pass for mid-20s.
 Picture_1.jpg   32.31KB   100 downloads

However, in a larger one he looks closer to his actual age.
 Picture_1.png   455.3KB   177 downloads

Take a look for yourself.

[TheFountain]

The lack of photo quality in this thread is hurting our analysis. For instace, a guy I see at the gym named Stephen (he's an artist, website at www.stephenscottsmith.com) is aged 36. He looks very young to me, in person. Much younger than the average 30-something.

In a small, low-quality photo he might pass for mid-20s.
 Picture_1.jpg   32.31KB   100 downloads

However, in a larger one he looks closer to his actual age.
 Picture_1.png   455.3KB   177 downloads

Take a look for yourself.

He strikes me as a healthy looking 29-32 year old, of course the receding hairline does not help things but ultimately I think he looks good for his age. What I am seeing in the larger photo is a little more grain to his complexion, unless this is image distortion from enlargement. I would also argue that his longish face is probably delaying the skin-sagging process. He has a very pronounced chin. Are you saying he looks closer to the smaller picture than the larger picture in real life? Also do you know what his diet/skin regimen is like?

Edited by TheFountain, 16 October 2009 - 10:52 AM.

[immortali457]

The lack of photo quality in this thread is hurting our analysis. For instace, a guy I see at the gym named Stephen (he's an artist, website at www.stephenscottsmith.com) is aged 36. He looks very young to me, in person. Much younger than the average 30-something.

In a small, low-quality photo he might pass for mid-20s.
 Picture_1.jpg   32.31KB   100 downloads

However, in a larger one he looks closer to his actual age.
 Picture_1.png   455.3KB   177 downloads

Take a look for yourself.

He strikes me as a healthy looking 29-32 year old, of course the receding hairline does not help things but ultimately I think he looks good for his age. What I am seeing in the larger photo is a little more grain to his complexion, unless this is image distortion from enlargement. I would also argue that his longish face is probably delaying the skin-sagging process. He has a very pronounced chin. Are you saying he looks closer to the smaller picture than the larger picture in real life? Also do you know what his diet/skin regimen is like?

Receding hairline?....how could I have missed that...lol

Edited by immortali457, 16 October 2009 - 05:02 PM.

[mcriot29]

The lack of photo quality in this thread is hurting our analysis. For instace, a guy I see at the gym named Stephen (he's an artist, website at www.stephenscottsmith.com) is aged 36. He looks very young to me, in person. Much younger than the average 30-something.

In a small, low-quality photo he might pass for mid-20s.
 Picture_1.jpg   32.31KB   100 downloads

However, in a larger one he looks closer to his actual age.
 Picture_1.png   455.3KB   177 downloads

Take a look for yourself.

He strikes me as a healthy looking 29-32 year old, of course the receding hairline does not help things but ultimately I think he looks good for his age. What I am seeing in the larger photo is a little more grain to his complexion, unless this is image distortion from enlargement. I would also argue that his longish face is probably delaying the skin-sagging process. He has a very pronounced chin. Are you saying he looks closer to the smaller picture than the larger picture in real life? Also do you know what his diet/skin regimen is like?

Receding hairline?....how could I have missed that...lol

ha he has no receding hairline its like what a teen boy would have most men his age have a mature hairline his has not gone back one bit dont know where your getting that from

[lunarsolarpower]

The lack of photo quality in this thread is hurting our analysis. For instace, a guy I see at the gym named Stephen (he's an artist, website at www.stephenscottsmith.com) is aged 36. He looks very young to me, in person. Much younger than the average 30-something.

In a small, low-quality photo he might pass for mid-20s.
 Picture_1.jpg   32.31KB   100 downloads

However, in a larger one he looks closer to his actual age.
 Picture_1.png   455.3KB   177 downloads

Take a look for yourself.

Judging by the wear on his lower incisors I'd have guessed 60-80.

[immortali457]

LMAO

[zoolander]

this thread, IMO, is everything preventative "anti-" aging is not about. *sighs*

[Skötkonung]

He strikes me as a healthy looking 29-32 year old, of course the receding hairline does not help things but ultimately I think he looks good for his age. What I am seeing in the larger photo is a little more grain to his complexion, unless this is image distortion from enlargement. I would also argue that his longish face is probably delaying the skin-sagging process. He has a very pronounced chin. Are you saying he looks closer to the smaller picture than the larger picture in real life? Also do you know what his diet/skin regimen is like?

I don't think he has a receding hairline, at least not that I have noticed.

The smaller photo is just the larger photo scaled down. What I wanted to illustrate was that in the smaller photo, some of the small details such as his forehead wrinkles and skin texture are not noticeable. There is just not enough detail.

Personally, I think he looks much younger than the average person his age, especially when I see him in person. He is in good shape and wears youthful clothing. I've not asked him about his skin care regimen, but I do know from a conversation I had with him once about the gym that we go to that he eats "healthy" and is not a vegetarian or vegan...whatever that means. I also saw on his blog (where I got that photo) that he has done drugs (he used to smoke opium in art school?) so I don't think he is exactly zealous about staying young looking. Most likely being active and good genetics are where he is benefiting the most.