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[Forever21]

Hey! I am a *very* pretty girlsie! ^-^

I am a ∞, so theresies! ^-^

♥ Annousenka ♥

OMG, you need help.

Edited by Forever21, 13 April 2010 - 01:11 AM.

[VidX]

Hey! I am a *very* pretty girlsie! ^-^

I am a ∞, so theresies! ^-^

♥ Annousenka ♥

OMG, you need help.

***Hee hee, threadsie gets maturesie by every daysie***

o_O

[1kgcoffee]

Just block her, then you won't have to read that grating crap.

[Forever21]

Just block her, then you won't have to read that grating crap.

how do u block someone here?

[sentrysnipe]

Just curious, who was he specifically referring to when he said imminst women look "doggish"? :S

[Matthias]

how do u block someone here?

click on his name --> view member profile --> Options --> Ignore User

[Brafarality]

He isn't even looking feminine O_o (at least, I can't see his face through the hair so I can't tell) just like some super extrovert emo or something, of course it'll get attention.

I don't get this, all those posts full of ego and then coming as if to show off "you and your girl didn't post photo" "you didn't see this" "you're trying to prove something on a web forum" what? O_o it's like you're talking to yourself but labeling other people.

No, I have nothing to prove or even worry about from what you said personally about me and/or other girls in this forum, you're just weird. (And yeah I know you'll say I am conditioned to be against you because you are unusual blabla bla I don't care shut up)

The thing is, you're ruining this thread, you're attacking everyone, go away.

It is difficult to estimate the accumulation of knowledge, perspective and forward thinking that I acquire via browsing these forums. Whereas I used to contribute more actively, I have lapsed into more of a lurker status, occasionally offering my valueless opinion on an item of particular interest.

The one thing that lessens the contributions of members and truly degrades discussion is when someone tells someone to go away or accuses them of attacking others without genuinely assessing whether that is, in fact, taking place.

TheFountain almost never makes a pure, unnecessary ad hominem remark. Yes, he sharply disagrees with participants and arouses emotions, but it is always on topic and never pointlessly hostile.

But, when a person tries to control the conversation by singling someone out and telling him to go away, now THAT person hinders open expression and truly brings about the beginning of the end.

I am speaking out of pure selfishness here since I want to continue being enlightened by the threads here and do not want to see the free flow of idea and opinion scotched by someone who may have been offended by a prior remark and seeks the last refuge of a scoundrel by attempting to cite etiquette, forum rules, etc., to muscle someone into being quiet.

Very uncool.

[mikeinnaples]

Very uncool.

What I found uncool was calling the female imminst members generally doggish. Whether or not it was directed at a specific person or not in the attempt to degrade them is irrelevant as it is a broad spectrum stereotypical insult against a group of people. The very defintiion of uncool is knocking other people down and stepping on thier backs to lift yourself higher to get the attention you need. It is even worse when you tell everyone that you are better than them while you are doing it.

Edited by mikeinnaples, 13 April 2010 - 04:02 PM.

[Ben]

Paul I don't want to hurt you, and I promise this is for you not me: you are a cretin. I know you can't see that now, but I've hope for you man .

Re. TheFountiain: as I've mentioned many times, these forums are special in that a lot of the people here are educated, kind, informative, humble, intelligent and genuinely wanting to help.

This also means that when puerile internet filth posts here there will be a large contrast. So trolls like the arrogant cretin here are more irresistable. Personally I'm just going to block this sort of noise and distraction from now on.

[mikeinnaples]

Just curious, who was he specifically referring to when he said imminst women look "doggish"? :S

Does it matter if it was someone specific? I think not.

[mikeinnaples]

Personally I'm just going to block this sort of noise and distraction from now on.

That is probably the best idea.

[Brafarality]

Paul I don't want to hurt you, and I promise this is for you not me: you are a cretin. I know you can't see that now, but I've hope for you man .

But, I just won a victory over the cretins at Sparta!

Actually, I am nettled by any attempt to thwart free speech and the open exchange of ideas and opinion.
Can't help it.
It just grates on the psyche.

In fine: an informed opinion, insults, offenses and all, is far better than no opinion.

OK, must return to the phantasmagoric real world for a time.

Cheers all!

Edited by paulthekind, 13 April 2010 - 04:46 PM.

[goatz]

Lol... I'm not gonna read that sh*t, but I'm sure you guys had a productive discussion.

Ok, talkin' about hormones and appearance, I guess it depends.

K.Levrone, one of the best all time bodybuilders, dude hasn't aged a bit in the last 20 years. Be it good skin, facial structure or something, but hormones hasn't left a mark on his appearance:

~ 20 years ago:

Now

I dont think steriods are the answer to longevity

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18599224

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/17178777

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1917226

etc..

[goatz]

Paul I don't want to hurt you, and I promise this is for you not me: you are a cretin. I know you can't see that now, but I've hope for you man .

Re. TheFountiain: as I've mentioned many times, these forums are special in that a lot of the people here are educated, kind, informative, humble, intelligent and genuinely wanting to help.

This also means that when puerile internet filth posts here there will be a large contrast. So trolls like the arrogant cretin here are more irresistable. Personally I'm just going to block this sort of noise and distraction from now on.

I love you Ben

[VidX]

I dont think steriods are the answer to longevity

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18599224

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/17178777

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1917226

etc..

I'm not implying that they are. Though quality of life and longevity, two diff. point of views. Anyway, these studies you quoted shows basically all "dangers" of AAS, that various studies were able to collect in decades of people using them. And these cases are mostly from abusing people. I'm not preaching AAS by no means, just feel a need to go in details as that field is so vastly misunderstood by even medical society that it's ridiculous. Basically every doc. will tell you that you'll loose hair, loose your penis and go blind (because someone will stab you in an accident involving "roid rage") lol.. Reality is a whole different case.

[goatz]

I dont think steriods are the answer to longevity

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/18599224

http://www.ncbi.nlm....pubmed/17178777

http://www.ncbi.nlm..../pubmed/1917226

etc..

I'm not implying that they are. Though quality of life and longevity, two diff. point of views. Anyway, these studies you quoted shows basically all "dangers" of AAS, that various studies were able to collect in decades of people using them. And these cases are mostly from abusing people. I'm not preaching AAS by no means, just feel a need to go in details as that field is so vastly misunderstood by even medical society that it's ridiculous. Basically every doc. will tell you that you'll loose hair, loose your penis and go blind (because someone will stab you in an accident involving "roid rage") lol.. Reality is a whole different case.

I dont understand your point. How do AAS improve your quality of life?

I dont think the medical society have this misunderstood, hairloss is a side effect accepted in the BB community, people running a cycle often incorporate dutasteride to offset this, and clomid in a PCT to combat the sexual side effects caused by the conversion of testosterone to estrogen by the aromatase enzyme. What reality are you talking about?

[Skötkonung]

how do u block someone here?

click on his name --> view member profile --> Options --> Ignore User

Very, very helpful. This thread is much more peaceful without PetiteCerise's mindless drivel.

Edited by Skotkonung, 13 April 2010 - 10:22 PM.

[Forever21]

Unbelievable. I didn't know you can do that in this forum. Thanks. Very very helpful. This thread is much more peaceful without PetiteCerise's mindless drivel.

[VidX]

I dont understand your point. How do AAS improve your quality of life?

I dont think the medical society have this misunderstood, hairloss is a side effect accepted in the BB community, people running a cycle often incorporate dutasteride to offset this, and clomid in a PCT to combat the sexual side effects caused by the conversion of testosterone to estrogen by the aromatase enzyme. What reality are you talking about?

If you don't have MPB you can roid all you want - not a hair will fall out. Clomid is for "restarting" hypogonodal-axis (sp?).. though for a healthy male it will restart on it's own fine. Estro sides are relevant to certain bodytype/hormonal balance "owners", unless a very high doses are used (then many may experience some kind of estro sides).
My referal to quality of life, well - if something isn't produced anymore in your system - replacing it may be a good idea (I'm talking mainly test here, but it's the main AAS anyway..). Obviously - if you are bodybuilding to some level, AAS may be a lifestyle drug that increases your serotonin levels and overall happyness. I can tell a person in a gym who's on test by his facial expression lol.. it's certain kind of a "glow" and "wellbeingness" you can witness.. So IMHO it MAY be a factor of a quality of life in various ways that certain hormonal balance provides you.

Talking about a dangerous territory, no layman should step in (but just for a discussion) - it's anecdotically known that if you are on a coctail of AAS + peptides and if there's some kind of a virus going around - most probably everyone around you will fall out and you'll either won't get it or some light form. Some studies I've red some time ago actually show that bodybuilders who are on some kind of androgens show a significantly higher count of immunity responsible leukocytes (esp. "Natural killers", which BTW attack cancerogenic cells) compared to a "clean" athletes.
So there may be some other things going on too.

[Ben]

It'd be great if we had an AAS thread with science on both sides and in longevity context.

[TheFountain]

PetiteCerise is not annoying to me. I don't know why everyone is so easily effected by her, but I guess it is a continuation of a basic theme here. That is, being easily influenced by others. I am quite certain that PetiteCerise is a Genius who is basically yanking people about as she likes to.

In any event at least the moderators gave equal warnings to everyone here, not just me. I was informed if flame wars continue the thread would be locked. But I have to comment on the fact that freedom of speech is on the down slope here considering I did not say that a specific individual was ugly.

I might have disagreed with certain individuals regarding the attractiveness of certain females but I never called those specific females ugly. And I did reiterate that several immortalist females are indeed attractive, I simply pointed out the fact that those particular females do not post much on this thread. I think the purpose of this thread has evolved somewhat lately.

It seems now to be about exploring the side of the human psyche we tend to put in hiding. The side that wants to be brutally honest I suppose. But honesty from where? All sources of honesty and truth, are they equally valid? Or are they merely opinions? Do we base truth on statistics or our own little puny dogmas of what we do and do not prefer? *raises eyebrow*

[TheFountain]

Hey! I am a *very* pretty girlsie! ^-^

I am a ∞, so theresies! ^-^

♥ Annousenka ♥

You look pretty in some of your pictures, when your weight was lower.

[Forever21]

She's taking too much space on my iPad. Need to block. Thank you.

[Kisya]

Hey! I am a *very* pretty girlsie! ^-^

I am a ∞, so theresies! ^-^

♥ Annousenka ♥

You look pretty in some of your pictures, when your weight was lower.

Thank you! ^-^

♥ Annousenka ♥

[Matt]

Ralph says that he looks so young because it was his intention lol... and thought aging was unpopular so he decided not to age xD I wonder what he does, just eat healthy? He's doing well i think. 48 years old

[Forever21]

Ralph says that he looks so young because it was his intention lol... and thought aging was unpopular so he decided not to age xD I wonder what he does, just eat healthy? He's doing well i think. 48 years old

The John Edwards effect? Having the appearance of younger male. But that's just it. An appearance. They could be a chain-smoking, fast-food eating, worry wart and still have an illusion of a younger appearance.

[Matt]

The John Edwards effect? Having the appearance of younger male. But that's just it. An appearance. They could be a chain-smoking, fast-food eating, worry wart and still have an illusion of a younger appearance.

An illusion? I'm confused. This is the guy that was 27-28 years old in karate kid 3 http://www.youtube.c...yoKmCJo#t=2m40s where he looked like 18 or something. To me ralph looks in his 30's o.O he sounds and acts young also. See the guy with the long hair? He's only 1 year older than ralph! If you watched ralph as he done his movies throughout his 20's, 30's and now 40's hes always seemed in every way much younger than his age. Probably not in appearance only either... but hes biologically much younger.

Edited by Matt, 17 April 2010 - 02:39 AM.

[VidX]

Ralph says that he looks so young because it was his intention lol... and thought aging was unpopular so he decided not to age xD I wonder what he does, just eat healthy? He's doing well i think. 48 years old

Well dude probably has his secrets. I think so because if someone down the road would aske me the same when I'm chronologically older (and if I'd look younger) my answer would be exactly the same too - "Because I intended not to age".

Though as you say he allways looked younger so hmmm..

Edited by VidX, 17 April 2010 - 02:36 AM.

[mustardseed41]

His secret is most likely great genes. Think Johnnie Depp (smoker).

[Forever21]

Matt, I'm just saying. Maybe not genes, maybe not lifestyle or diet but something else. Something completely different. The luck of having the figure, shape, appearance associated with the younger and therefore we associate, interpret as "young".