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I have yet to see somebody who looks as young as they claim...

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#1591 Brafarality

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 11:42 AM

The 85-year-old dude in the thong is interesting because he's pretty thin, unlike most of the older bodybilders. His skin looks surprisingly young. Does he use growth hormones or something? Why doesn't he have that "old man" saggy skin?

Agreed. He is the best yet on this thread, though some are close.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 01:23 AM

Idk, maybe she was in this thread already and I forgot, but I was browsing youtube for something anti-aging related and came across this vid. Oh, I thought, she's probably some doc. and will do a presentation on bio identical hormone replacement. Then I started watching and thougt again - what does she know, she's too young, and then... googled her, bam - over 60! PS or not, her VOICE sounds young, and this is the first time I'm witnessing this in a woman her age (as some manage to get good results from ps and fillers and stuff, but voice becomes "old" or "mature").
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAWBQCuMpgg

<div><br></div><div>When you are 64 and look like this, you can be sure that you achieved something in "looking young" department, that's for sure:&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Posted Image</div>

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#1593 VidX

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 01:42 AM

My god, she's hot. what the hell



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Posted 27 December 2010 - 07:22 AM

... PS or not, her VOICE sounds young, and this is the first time I'm witnessing this in a woman her age (as some manage to get good results from ps and fillers and stuff, but voice becomes "old" or "mature").

You didn't recognize Chrissy Snow aka the thigh master? Yea she has a good voice, she is a former singer. A lot of singers perform into their 60s and 70s. Tina Turner, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, Bing Crosby, Sinatra, Kate Smith, Chuck Berry, Dean Martin, etc... many of those not so healthy otherwise. I think the list is mostly guys because there is just a lot less commercial market for female singers in their 60s. I think her good voice at 63 has more to do with her good voice at 33 then the HRT or anything else she is doing.

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 10:14 AM

... PS or not, her VOICE sounds young, and this is the first time I'm witnessing this in a woman her age (as some manage to get good results from ps and fillers and stuff, but voice becomes "old" or "mature").

You didn't recognize Chrissy Snow aka the thigh master? Yea she has a good voice, she is a former singer. A lot of singers perform into their 60s and 70s. Tina Turner, Mick Jagger, Paul McCartney, Bing Crosby, Sinatra, Kate Smith, Chuck Berry, Dean Martin, etc... many of those not so healthy otherwise. I think the list is mostly guys because there is just a lot less commercial market for female singers in their 60s. I think her good voice at 63 has more to do with her good voice at 33 then the HRT or anything else she is doing.


Well I'm not from US so thats probably why I didn't regognize her, tho' I know a fair share of US celebs. And you may be right about her singing past as an influence to the voice, but it still sounds a lot younger then of a woman her age, impressive.

Edited by VidX, 27 December 2010 - 10:14 AM.


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Posted 27 December 2010 - 06:47 PM

I would be interested to know if her hair is her's or a weave, so hard to tell these days. She is an interesting HRT case study from another perspective. She started HRT at (about) 48, 15 years ago, and developed breast cancer (about) 53, but seems to have managed the breast cancer. HRT has been linked to increased cancer risk. Is the HRT today less likely to promote cancer than the HRT 15 years ago? Or was she just unlucky at first and lucky now?

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Posted 27 December 2010 - 09:50 PM

I would be interested to know if her hair is her's or a weave, so hard to tell these days. She is an interesting HRT case study from another perspective. She started HRT at (about) 48, 15 years ago, and developed breast cancer (about) 53, but seems to have managed the breast cancer. HRT has been linked to increased cancer risk. Is the HRT today less likely to promote cancer than the HRT 15 years ago? Or was she just unlucky at first and lucky now?



I don't think hormones changed somehow (way of use - possible) but she may've had that cancer anyway, we'll never know.. The fact is - her skin looks very nice, overall she's somehow "feminine" in a youthful way, not just an artificially frozen/plumped or something like that. She's a pioneer, no extensive data really exists of a long term supplementation like that. Btw - it's interesting, she's having a VAGINAL (!) injections daily (of...estradiol..maybe?) never heard of such a way to take hormones.

However it is, aside a cancer risk, replacing what's LOST (rebuilding it BACK. Isn't whole SENS idea about this?) seems perfectly logical, as like she states - "One can assume that menopause is a /natural/ process", but we all know that it's as "natural" as aging itself, simply put - detorriation...


Edited by VidX, 27 December 2010 - 09:52 PM.


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Posted 08 January 2011 - 08:23 AM

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Someone snuck this pic on camera shy attendees at a 5/2010 bash and I just realized I was in it.
Am I a pale MF or what?

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 09:27 AM

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Posted 08 January 2011 - 10:50 AM

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Someone snuck this pic on camera shy attendees at a 5/2010 bash and I just realized I was in it.
Am I a pale MF or what?



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Posted 08 January 2011 - 12:34 PM

Someone snuck this pic on camera shy attendees at a 5/2010 bash and I just realized I was in it.
Am I a pale MF or what?


lol.. I'd look similar I guess...

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Posted 09 January 2011 - 11:34 PM

Just an old vid of R.Robinson (he was 51 in this one):



When I compare this man to some people I know, who are jusr barely over 40 and already horribly "degraded" in terms of health, due to life style choices mainly, it just blows my mind somehow.. a strange contrast. Not to mention that at 54, when he won his Master Olympia, he came in in even a better shape than that above.:



<div><br></div><div>Fast forward: Almost 65 and moving 22plates on a leg press with a perfect form (newes vid in his blog). SOmething to write home about however you look at it..</div>

Edited by VidX, 09 January 2011 - 11:42 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2011 - 08:20 PM

Yes the black price is something else. But you cant judge someone with freakish genes like him against mere mortals. Pointless.

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 09:44 PM

Well I'm sure he has great genes, tho' after reading his thoughts, interviews and so on it seems that dude was always very conscious about self preservance/health. He mentioned a few times that the shape he is in and the vigour at his current age is "A dream come true"... I guess he had a dream - to be "in the game" for as long as possible...

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Posted 11 January 2011 - 10:02 PM

Just an old vid of R.Robinson (he was 51 in this one):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1PQtk5LKzQ

When I compare this man to some people I know, who are jusr barely over 40 and already horribly "degraded" in terms of health, due to life style choices mainly, it just blows my mind somehow.. a strange contrast. Not to mention that at 54, when he won his Master Olympia, he came in in even a better shape than that above.:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ScGLVK1f5t8

<div><br></div><div>Fast forward: Almost 65 and moving 22plates on a leg press with a perfect form (newes vid in his blog). SOmething to write home about however you look at it..</div>

Oh yeah! Unbelievably impresssssive.

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Posted 12 January 2011 - 07:50 PM

Well I'm sure he has great genes, tho' after reading his thoughts, interviews and so on it seems that dude was always very conscious about self preservance/health. He mentioned a few times that the shape he is in and the vigour at his current age is "A dream come true"... I guess he had a dream - to be "in the game" for as long as possible...


I really wish people would stop perpetuating the 'genes' argument already, especially when it comes to people who choose to commit themselves to something. Saying it's 'genes' is kind of insulting to the personal integrity of the individual who makes the choice. It makes it sound like they don't have to work hard to get what they want. Or that somebody else who works just as hard won't get there.

Edited by TheFountain, 12 January 2011 - 07:52 PM.


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Posted 13 January 2011 - 05:24 AM

Well I'm sure he has great genes, tho' after reading his thoughts, interviews and so on it seems that dude was always very conscious about self preservance/health. He mentioned a few times that the shape he is in and the vigour at his current age is "A dream come true"... I guess he had a dream - to be "in the game" for as long as possible...


I really wish people would stop perpetuating the 'genes' argument already, especially when it comes to people who choose to commit themselves to something. Saying it's 'genes' is kind of insulting to the personal integrity of the individual who makes the choice. It makes it sound like they don't have to work hard to get what they want. Or that somebody else who works just as hard won't get there.

Look I love this thread, but there is a huge deficit of statistical understanding/analysis present in its theme. You could rename this thread "A collection of outliers". It's easy to say these people committed themselves to being in shape, but the truth of the matter is that for every person shown here, there are 1000's of other people who did the same thing, or even more, and don't look nearly as good (or are dead already!). If this thread was going when Jeanne Calment was 95, she would probably be posted and remarked upon. We would say how good she looks, and try breakdown here lifestyle/regimen for hints behind her youthfulnes and vitality. The point is Jeanne Calment is probably just literally 1 in billions who could have done anything--like say smoke for 100 years--and get away with it to 120 years and beyond.

I'm not hating on this thread. Anecdote is powerful, and sometimes all we have to work on. I base many of my decisions on anecdote when the hard science is right down the line or not yet robust enough. But this thread is Sampling Bias in its highest form.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 02:31 AM

Well I'm sure he has great genes, tho' after reading his thoughts, interviews and so on it seems that dude was always very conscious about self preservance/health. He mentioned a few times that the shape he is in and the vigour at his current age is "A dream come true"... I guess he had a dream - to be "in the game" for as long as possible...


I really wish people would stop perpetuating the 'genes' argument already, especially when it comes to people who choose to commit themselves to something. Saying it's 'genes' is kind of insulting to the personal integrity of the individual who makes the choice. It makes it sound like they don't have to work hard to get what they want. Or that somebody else who works just as hard won't get there.

Look I love this thread, but there is a huge deficit of statistical understanding/analysis present in its theme. You could rename this thread "A collection of outliers". It's easy to say these people committed themselves to being in shape, but the truth of the matter is that for every person shown here, there are 1000's of other people who did the same thing, or even more, and don't look nearly as good (or are dead already!). If this thread was going when Jeanne Calment was 95, she would probably be posted and remarked upon. We would say how good she looks, and try breakdown here lifestyle/regimen for hints behind her youthfulnes and vitality. The point is Jeanne Calment is probably just literally 1 in billions who could have done anything--like say smoke for 100 years--and get away with it to 120 years and beyond.

I'm not hating on this thread. Anecdote is powerful, and sometimes all we have to work on. I base many of my decisions on anecdote when the hard science is right down the line or not yet robust enough. But this thread is Sampling Bias in its highest form.


On the contrary the anecdote is the genes argument, there is absolutely zero studies showing a correlation between people who look better and 'genes'. Every single person I have either known or known of, when making maximun effort with diet, exercise and supplementation, looks better than most people their ages.
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Posted 14 January 2011 - 09:59 PM

Well I'm sure he has great genes, tho' after reading his thoughts, interviews and so on it seems that dude was always very conscious about self preservance/health. He mentioned a few times that the shape he is in and the vigour at his current age is "A dream come true"... I guess he had a dream - to be "in the game" for as long as possible...


I really wish people would stop perpetuating the 'genes' argument already, especially when it comes to people who choose to commit themselves to something. Saying it's 'genes' is kind of insulting to the personal integrity of the individual who makes the choice. It makes it sound like they don't have to work hard to get what they want. Or that somebody else who works just as hard won't get there.

Look I love this thread, but there is a huge deficit of statistical understanding/analysis present in its theme. You could rename this thread "A collection of outliers". It's easy to say these people committed themselves to being in shape, but the truth of the matter is that for every person shown here, there are 1000's of other people who did the same thing, or even more, and don't look nearly as good (or are dead already!). If this thread was going when Jeanne Calment was 95, she would probably be posted and remarked upon. We would say how good she looks, and try breakdown here lifestyle/regimen for hints behind her youthfulnes and vitality. The point is Jeanne Calment is probably just literally 1 in billions who could have done anything--like say smoke for 100 years--and get away with it to 120 years and beyond.

I'm not hating on this thread. Anecdote is powerful, and sometimes all we have to work on. I base many of my decisions on anecdote when the hard science is right down the line or not yet robust enough. But this thread is Sampling Bias in its highest form.


On the contrary the anecdote is the genes argument, there is absolutely zero studies showing a correlation between people who look better and 'genes'. Every single person I have either known or known of, when making maximun effort with diet, exercise and supplementation, looks better than most people their ages.

I think genes do contribute; some people just look older at a given age than their peers based purely on their genetic predisposition. Likewise, some people look younger ("baby face") despite an average or below average lifestyle. That said, beyond a certain age, lifestyle probably comprises most of the "looking younger" effect. I'd reckon that after 30 years of age, lifestyle begins to make huge contributions to one's appearance. If you started with good genetic predisposition, lifestyle will take that effect even further.

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 12:50 AM

Storm Talifero, the RAW food guy from thegardendiet.com, new vid. Age 61. Black skin, raw food, genetics or whatever - dude looks good (i'd say - amazing. like - not tired at all, skin is smooth and overall complexion is of a much statistically younger person):

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FV3rg1E59Sk

what the hell^^ can't embedd somewhy

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 01:43 AM

Well I'm sure he has great genes, tho' after reading his thoughts, interviews and so on it seems that dude was always very conscious about self preservance/health. He mentioned a few times that the shape he is in and the vigour at his current age is "A dream come true"... I guess he had a dream - to be "in the game" for as long as possible...


I really wish people would stop perpetuating the 'genes' argument already, especially when it comes to people who choose to commit themselves to something. Saying it's 'genes' is kind of insulting to the personal integrity of the individual who makes the choice. It makes it sound like they don't have to work hard to get what they want. Or that somebody else who works just as hard won't get there.

Look I love this thread, but there is a huge deficit of statistical understanding/analysis present in its theme. You could rename this thread "A collection of outliers". It's easy to say these people committed themselves to being in shape, but the truth of the matter is that for every person shown here, there are 1000's of other people who did the same thing, or even more, and don't look nearly as good (or are dead already!). If this thread was going when Jeanne Calment was 95, she would probably be posted and remarked upon. We would say how good she looks, and try breakdown here lifestyle/regimen for hints behind her youthfulnes and vitality. The point is Jeanne Calment is probably just literally 1 in billions who could have done anything--like say smoke for 100 years--and get away with it to 120 years and beyond.

I'm not hating on this thread. Anecdote is powerful, and sometimes all we have to work on. I base many of my decisions on anecdote when the hard science is right down the line or not yet robust enough. But this thread is Sampling Bias in its highest form.


On the contrary the anecdote is the genes argument, there is absolutely zero studies showing a correlation between people who look better and 'genes'. Every single person I have either known or known of, when making maximun effort with diet, exercise and supplementation, looks better than most people their ages.

I think genes do contribute; some people just look older at a given age than their peers based purely on their genetic predisposition. Likewise, some people look younger ("baby face") despite an average or below average lifestyle. That said, beyond a certain age, lifestyle probably comprises most of the "looking younger" effect. I'd reckon that after 30 years of age, lifestyle begins to make huge contributions to one's appearance. If you started with good genetic predisposition, lifestyle will take that effect even further.


If this is true it certainly has not been proven by any long term study. This 'genes' argument always surprises me coming from such stringent scientific minds. It's kind of a myth really when you think about it. Where did the myth begin? I have seen pictures of my father when he was my age, he looked about 5 years older due to smoking, drinking and probably not eating right.

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Posted 15 January 2011 - 10:38 AM

A few examples regarding hormonal effects on ones appearance/perceived age (I mean - growth promoting hormones, as we know it may influence the "mature" look to some extent.). Though I'd like to add - for SOME people, or so it seems.

Here's a bodobuilder D.Hill:

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He's 23(!) years old. You heard it right - 23.

Here's A.Lesukov:

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He's 22 years old.


As you can see - the difference is very big. One looks like a 40, another like a teen, tho' both of them are hormonized to eyeballs (testosterone, gh, etc...), and Alexay actually started hormonization even earlier I guess, as he was a freak at 18 already)... It seems that some people just have a "baby face" no matter what...
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Posted 15 January 2011 - 04:02 PM

Storm Talifero, the RAW food guy from thegardendiet.com, new vid. Age 61. Black skin, raw food, genetics or whatever - dude looks good
(i'd say - amazing. like - not tired at all, skin is smooth and overall complexion is of a much statistically younger person):



He looks amazing! Wow.

Edited by pycnogenol, 15 January 2011 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 16 January 2011 - 08:22 AM

Well I'm sure he has great genes, tho' after reading his thoughts, interviews and so on it seems that dude was always very conscious about self preservance/health. He mentioned a few times that the shape he is in and the vigour at his current age is "A dream come true"... I guess he had a dream - to be "in the game" for as long as possible...


I really wish people would stop perpetuating the 'genes' argument already, especially when it comes to people who choose to commit themselves to something. Saying it's 'genes' is kind of insulting to the personal integrity of the individual who makes the choice. It makes it sound like they don't have to work hard to get what they want. Or that somebody else who works just as hard won't get there.

Look I love this thread, but there is a huge deficit of statistical understanding/analysis present in its theme. You could rename this thread "A collection of outliers". It's easy to say these people committed themselves to being in shape, but the truth of the matter is that for every person shown here, there are 1000's of other people who did the same thing, or even more, and don't look nearly as good (or are dead already!). If this thread was going when Jeanne Calment was 95, she would probably be posted and remarked upon. We would say how good she looks, and try breakdown here lifestyle/regimen for hints behind her youthfulnes and vitality. The point is Jeanne Calment is probably just literally 1 in billions who could have done anything--like say smoke for 100 years--and get away with it to 120 years and beyond.

I'm not hating on this thread. Anecdote is powerful, and sometimes all we have to work on. I base many of my decisions on anecdote when the hard science is right down the line or not yet robust enough. But this thread is Sampling Bias in its highest form.


On the contrary the anecdote is the genes argument, there is absolutely zero studies showing a correlation between people who look better and 'genes'. Every single person I have either known or known of, when making maximun effort with diet, exercise and supplementation, looks better than most people their ages.

I think genes do contribute; some people just look older at a given age than their peers based purely on their genetic predisposition. Likewise, some people look younger ("baby face") despite an average or below average lifestyle. That said, beyond a certain age, lifestyle probably comprises most of the "looking younger" effect. I'd reckon that after 30 years of age, lifestyle begins to make huge contributions to one's appearance. If you started with good genetic predisposition, lifestyle will take that effect even further.


If this is true it certainly has not been proven by any long term study. This 'genes' argument always surprises me coming from such stringent scientific minds. It's kind of a myth really when you think about it. Where did the myth begin? I have seen pictures of my father when he was my age, he looked about 5 years older due to smoking, drinking and probably not eating right.

Of course it hasn't been "proven", but we are only beginning to unravel the human genome.

We know the genetic predisposition towards cholesterol levels, fat and carbohydrate metabolism, fasting glucose, sex hormones, etc. We know the genes for hair thickness, eye color, skin color, etc. We know there are genes for collagen production, eye shape, nose shape, etc. Is it so hard to believe there are combinations of genes that predispose someone to look younger or retain the youthful look? In fact, neoteny has been cultivated in other animals through domestication (dogs, cats), so it obviously has a genetic basis.

Edited by Skötkonung, 16 January 2011 - 08:22 AM.

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 02:15 AM

Ok, so when you are able to wear a cap like that at 39 and still not look too much "out of your... age" it means you are aging well (or basically not aging, in this case):

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:24 PM



shes 43 years old, she never seems to age ;p

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 05:39 PM

shes 43 years old, she never seems to age ;p





In the 90s, when in her 20s, she looked like 10 year old. So it makes sense for her to look like in her late 20s now.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw5VrD_d3fE

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Posted 17 January 2011 - 06:48 PM

someone suggested that it was a footage from 1994 and just a re-run ;p and he would be right... it wasn't all that clear as the video said 2009 !lol

Edited by Matt, 17 January 2011 - 06:56 PM.


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 08:16 PM

someone suggested that it was a footage from 1994 and just a re-run ;p and he would be right... it wasn't all that clear as the video said 2009 !lol




Song is 1994.
Video is 2009.




This is the song AND video from 1994.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9eptj2EZ4xE


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Posted 17 January 2011 - 08:26 PM

She's 5'0 ft tall.

w00t w00t for short peoples.





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