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[sunshinefrost]

5th vial taken earlier today.

I'm still at work today and I'm now able to discern some accentuated concentration. I would compare the feeling to piracetam. I see a slight clarity improvement and speed of thought but I don't notice any verbal skills improvements like piracetam provides. I feel a bit agitated but, again, this may be caused by cafeine from green tea.

Some improvements from yesterday but not much. Neuroplasticity may be going on at this time so i try to stay sharp, concentrated and use my mind as much as I can.

I may try another 5 ml ampoule around 5pm.

In all fairness green tea barely has any caffeine (especially compared to a cup of coffee). Were you drinking green tea or anything with caffeine before. I personally wouldnt attribute anything to green tea. Dont quote me on this, but a lot of people (that I know of at least), including me dont feel any effects from green tea (or nothing immediately noticeable, i am not arguing over subtle or over-time positive effects) normally. In this situation if it was me I will contribute any effects either on CRB or on the effect of CRB+Green Tea. You probably know that, but I am just getting this out there and also dont get me wrong- I drink green tea often and I've even had some today.

I'm very sensitive to cafeine, a coffee for me is often too much. Unfortunately it seems i'm not sensitive enough to cerebrolysin :(

[AldousSnow]

I was using 10ml in one shot or two consecutive injections of 5ml. 10ml is what is used as the lowest dose in the studies I have seen. They tested 10ml, 20ml 30 and even 50ml dosages.

[sunshinefrost]

after 2 weeks (10 vials) it's still hard to pin-point improvements. I see some but they are not as evident as I thought they would be. the benefits appear after the 5th and seems to accumulate slowly.

I have a bit more energy (a lot more on caffeine), I wake up slightly more rested, i don't fall asleep around 2 pm at the job, little to no anxiolitic effect and hangovers are almost not existant... almost. My concentration levels seem to be the same but i'm able to keep it up a bit more sustained, this may be because of increased energy ?

No verbal skills improvements, no noticable speed of thought improvement, ... in short, so far, I only see a general well being improvement. I had higher expectations from cerebrolysin but keep in mind that i still have 10 other ampoules to go.

the so-called "improvements" seem to stay during the "off" days.

we'll see

[GYTHA]

Hello everyone!
I am new in the subject of nootropics and in the one week that I read about it, here in the forum and it the net, i managed to fing and try my first cerebrolysin shot! I am from portugal and here it's an approved drug that is sold in pharmacys and it costs 40 USD,5 X 5ml. I want to use it for similar reasons of russianbear, i have take a lot of recreational drugs too young and smoke pot for 14 years.. I entered university this year, it has been hard and vey difficult and I really feel that I need a push to continue. I have loss of memory and the tip of the tongue thing happens a lot, they may be other side effects of the drugs that i have taken but i started very young and i can't tell.
So don't feel nothing different with my first shot but i know that it can just have an effect at the 5th day or so. I will post eventual evolution an btw thanks to everyone in the forum who participate in passing information about cerebrolysin

Edited by GYTHA, 15 June 2011 - 10:17 PM.

[FDA Approved]

As the pharmaletter reports, the Austrian Ever Neuro Pharma may venture into Russia to build a plant to produce its blockbuster drug Cerebrolysin in St. Petersburg. Ever Neuro Pharm already operates a production site at the Biocom plant (in the Stavropol region). The capacity of this site is estimated to 1.3 million packages per year. The new site in St. Petersburg would decrease logistics cost to about 30%-50% of present day cost.

from http://europe-health...eutical-sector/

[sunshinefrost]

after 16/20 ampoules I clearly feel the difference.

It took 13 doses to see that this nootropic is actually effective. All my personal test points seem to be affected when on it. I remember Russian Bear saying he was able to go through stressful periods without feeling too tired and exhausted and I have to says that this is very true. I don't have a stressful job but I can definitely say that I have been on top of my game for the past weeks.

For concentration it's pretty hard to describe the improvements. I still have to work at it but i feel i'm able to sustain the effort for longer periods which allows me to observe/study more deeply. in a related subject, tip of the tong syndrome seems to have dissipated. Even if I have difficulty finding a word I seem to be able to drive my concentration up a notch and I come up with a name or a word I wanted to use.

My memory is better. clearly.

oh and hangovers are still non-existant (almost) and i remember every details of the night.

That's pretty much it... concentration, general well-being and confidence clearly improved so everything else is affected positively.

If I notice anything else i'll post. If not I will let you know if the improvements stay after the cycle is done

By the way, anyone knows how often I can cycle cerebrolysin ?

Edited by sunshinefrost, 19 June 2011 - 07:09 PM.

[FDA Approved]

after 16/20 ampoules I clearly feel the difference.

It took 13 doses to see that this nootropic is actually effective. All my personal test points seem to be affected when on it. I remember Russian Bear saying he was able to go through stressful periods without feeling too tired and exhausted and I have to says that this is very true. I don't have a stressful job but I can definitely say that I have been on top of my game for the past weeks.

For concentration it's pretty hard to describe the improvements. I still have to work at it but i feel i'm able to sustain the effort for longer periods which allows me to observe/study more deeply. in a related subject, tip of the tong syndrome seems to have dissipated. Even if I have difficulty finding a word I seem to be able to drive my concentration up a notch and I come up with a name or a word I wanted to use.

My memory is better. clearly.

oh and hangovers are still non-existant (almost) and i remember every details of the night.

That's pretty much it... concentration, general well-being and confidence clearly improved so everything else is affected positively.

If I notice anything else i'll post. If not I will let you know if the improvements stay after the cycle is done

By the way, anyone knows how often I can cycle cerebrolysin ?

This sounds promising. I am glad you are getting positive effects as well. Now if I can only find how to get 20 ampoules for less than 200 quid I will hopefully join in the ranks of cerebrolysin users.
It is usually cycled one month on, two months off as far as I know, but you can obviously do something different.

[sunshinefrost]

after 16/20 ampoules I clearly feel the difference.

It took 13 doses to see that this nootropic is actually effective. All my personal test points seem to be affected when on it. I remember Russian Bear saying he was able to go through stressful periods without feeling too tired and exhausted and I have to says that this is very true. I don't have a stressful job but I can definitely say that I have been on top of my game for the past weeks.

For concentration it's pretty hard to describe the improvements. I still have to work at it but i feel i'm able to sustain the effort for longer periods which allows me to observe/study more deeply. in a related subject, tip of the tong syndrome seems to have dissipated. Even if I have difficulty finding a word I seem to be able to drive my concentration up a notch and I come up with a name or a word I wanted to use.

My memory is better. clearly.

oh and hangovers are still non-existant (almost) and i remember every details of the night.

That's pretty much it... concentration, general well-being and confidence clearly improved so everything else is affected positively.

If I notice anything else i'll post. If not I will let you know if the improvements stay after the cycle is done

By the way, anyone knows how often I can cycle cerebrolysin ?

This sounds promising. I am glad you are getting positive effects as well. Now if I can only find how to get 20 ampoules for less than 200 quid I will hopefully join in the ranks of cerebrolysin users.
It is usually cycled one month on, two months off as far as I know, but you can obviously do something different.

I paid 155 canadian $ for 20. Surely you can find some under that. IAS is based in UK non ? Try drugspro or ias. I tried both and drugspro 's cerebrolysin had an expiry date of 2015 versus 2013 from ias. you could keep them for a longer period if you want, but i don't think you will

ok so 1 month "on" then 2 months "off"... I read that as well. That's what i'll be going for. Has anybody tried/tested cerebrolysin for 1 year (4 cycles) ?

Edited by sunshinefrost, 20 June 2011 - 02:05 PM.

[FDA Approved]

after 16/20 ampoules I clearly feel the difference.

It took 13 doses to see that this nootropic is actually effective. All my personal test points seem to be affected when on it. I remember Russian Bear saying he was able to go through stressful periods without feeling too tired and exhausted and I have to says that this is very true. I don't have a stressful job but I can definitely say that I have been on top of my game for the past weeks.

For concentration it's pretty hard to describe the improvements. I still have to work at it but i feel i'm able to sustain the effort for longer periods which allows me to observe/study more deeply. in a related subject, tip of the tong syndrome seems to have dissipated. Even if I have difficulty finding a word I seem to be able to drive my concentration up a notch and I come up with a name or a word I wanted to use.

My memory is better. clearly.

oh and hangovers are still non-existant (almost) and i remember every details of the night.

That's pretty much it... concentration, general well-being and confidence clearly improved so everything else is affected positively.

If I notice anything else i'll post. If not I will let you know if the improvements stay after the cycle is done

By the way, anyone knows how often I can cycle cerebrolysin ?

This sounds promising. I am glad you are getting positive effects as well. Now if I can only find how to get 20 ampoules for less than 200 quid I will hopefully join in the ranks of cerebrolysin users.
It is usually cycled one month on, two months off as far as I know, but you can obviously do something different.

I paid 155 canadian $ for 20. Surely you can find some under that. IAS is based in UK non ? Try drugspro or ias. I tried both and drugspro 's cerebrolysin had an expiry date of 2015 versus 2013 from ias. you could keep them for a longer period if you want, but i don't think you will

ok so 1 month "on" then 2 months "off"... I read that as well. That's what i'll be going for. Has anybody tried/tested cerebrolysin for 1 year (4 cycles) ?

Drugspro is $ 72.80 for 5 ( so $291.2 for 20) and ias is at $79.99 for 5, which is even worse. If I could get it that cheap (155 Canadian dollars) I would've started myself on it by now.

[sunshinefrost]

yeah you're right, i was doing 13 things in parallele... But regardless, i think it's worth it. If the effects are long term it's a cheap price... in my own opinion. I'm thinking of buying a lot and store it for futur use.

[Bentonite]

Yesterday was my first injection with CRB, and nothing to report.
Few minutes ago the second, we'll see.

[Bentonite]

after 16/20 ampoules I clearly feel the difference.

It took 13 doses to see that this nootropic is actually effective. All my personal test points seem to be affected when on it. I remember Russian Bear saying he was able to go through stressful periods without feeling too tired and exhausted and I have to says that this is very true. I don't have a stressful job but I can definitely say that I have been on top of my game for the past weeks.

For concentration it's pretty hard to describe the improvements. I still have to work at it but i feel i'm able to sustain the effort for longer periods which allows me to observe/study more deeply. in a related subject, tip of the tong syndrome seems to have dissipated. Even if I have difficulty finding a word I seem to be able to drive my concentration up a notch and I come up with a name or a word I wanted to use.

My memory is better. clearly.

oh and hangovers are still non-existant (almost) and i remember every details of the night.

That's pretty much it... concentration, general well-being and confidence clearly improved so everything else is affected positively.

If I notice anything else i'll post. If not I will let you know if the improvements stay after the cycle is done

By the way, anyone knows how often I can cycle cerebrolysin ?

This sounds promising. I am glad you are getting positive effects as well. Now if I can only find how to get 20 ampoules for less than 200 quid I will hopefully join in the ranks of cerebrolysin users.
It is usually cycled one month on, two months off as far as I know, but you can obviously do something different.

I paid 155 canadian $ for 20. Surely you can find some under that. IAS is based in UK non ? Try drugspro or ias. I tried both and drugspro 's cerebrolysin had an expiry date of 2015 versus 2013 from ias. you could keep them for a longer period if you want, but i don't think you will

ok so 1 month "on" then 2 months "off"... I read that as well. That's what i'll be going for. Has anybody tried/tested cerebrolysin for 1 year (4 cycles) ?

What's your supplier Sunshine?

[sunshinefrost]

http://www.drugspro.org/

Edited by sunshinefrost, 24 June 2011 - 05:07 AM.

[sunshinefrost]

Yesterday was my first injection with CRB, and nothing to report.
Few minutes ago the second, we'll see.

Did you get 20 ampoules ? ... be patient, it will work. It may be longer than 5 days. You will see something but not deep concentration right away. At the beginning you may see something subtle but trust me, you will gradually see a "clear-mind" type of mood being installed in you. This stuff is serious.

I noticed that the clarity stays all day but on "off" days it dissipates a bit...

still 4 to go for me, cycle is almost over. I already ordered more.

Edited by sunshinefrost, 24 June 2011 - 05:16 AM.

[Bentonite]

http://www.drugspro.org/

Me too... so I suppose that canadian dollar is higher than expected.

[Bentonite]

Yesterday was my first injection with CRB, and nothing to report.
Few minutes ago the second, we'll see.

Did you get 20 ampoules ? ... be patient, it will work. It may be longer than 5 days. You will see something but not deep concentration right away. At the beginning you may see something subtle but trust me, you will gradually see a "clear-mind" type of mood being installed in you. This stuff is serious.

I noticed that the clarity stays all day but on "off" days it dissipates a bit...

still 4 to go for me, cycle is almost over. I already ordered more.

No, unfortunately only 10 (actually, 10ml X5), I hope in something more within the end of this supply. The last day was my 3rd shot on CRB, and it was as usual. Tomorrow morning I plan to go full dose.

[sunshinefrost]

I would split the doses then. 2.5ml each day.

[Bentonite]

I would split the doses then. 2.5ml each day.

It seems not a good idea, it's too low. Going for a 10ml shoot.

[AldousSnow]

I had much a much better experience with 10ml, although it was a bitch to do in one shot and probably not healthy. Two 5ml shots is probably the way to go, it just uses more gear.

You guys make me miss cerebrolysin! I'm going to order more soon I got from IAS, Drugs-pro is legit?

[sunshinefrost]

yes they are.

I just finished my 1st month (1 cycle ) of cerebrolysin. The "on" days were focused, very productive and the "off" days were ok, as simple as that. On this last day I can say that the following test points were all improved except 1 :

- memory
- "tip of the tong" issues
- speed of thought
- clarity of thought
- general well being
- verbal skills
- motivation
- social skills
- meditation and mindfulness skills
- comprehension
- intuition

I did not notice any physical skills improvements. I do Cross-fit, which is a very intense military type of training, and I felt i was more exhausted while "on" cerebrolysin. Maybe this is due to the brain consuming more energy than usual. don't know.

I will now see if the effects last in a "long term" way ... the next 2 months (before the 2nd cycle)will be without cerebro. I am almost certain that the concentration levels will not be as intense as during the cycle, but i will be able to compare Before/after the treatment. Let's hope there are long term benefits to all of this.

Edited by sunshinefrost, 29 June 2011 - 07:58 PM.

[GYTHA]

so I have done 10 days with cerebrolysin,5 lm/day, and know it as pass 5 days without it. I can say that it really makes you much more talkative and with a more accurate speech, concentration is easier to achive, you get more effective in solving problems. In the fisical way I can say that in the beginning I felt less need to smoke, now this sensation as fade a little but still remain and the overall health of my skin as improved. This is a great nootropic without a doubt,it really makes a difference. I was thinking if taking it always at the same hour would be more benefic, next time I will try it.

[Bentonite]

Damn, guys, you make make me feel a moron... =(

40 ml injected so far, and zero results. Today I'm also a bit more sleepy than usual. Only 1 amp of 10 to finish. It seems I'm a non responder, a rare beast... geez.

[sunshinefrost]

Damn, guys, you make make me feel a moron... =(

40 ml injected so far, and zero results. Today I'm also a bit more sleepy than usual. Only 1 amp of 10 to finish. It seems I'm a non responder, a rare beast... geez.

the effects are cumulatif. I saw an improvement around day 13. The 1st thing you may notice is waking up well rested.

[Logan]

I had much a much better experience with 10ml, although it was a bitch to do in one shot and probably not healthy. Two 5ml shots is probably the way to go, it just uses more gear.

You guys make me miss cerebrolysin! I'm going to order more soon I got from IAS, Drugs-pro is legit?

Are you experiencing noticeable long term benefits?

[Synaptic-Enthusiastic]

Has anyone tried more than the I.M. 5ml upper limmit dose?

I´m currently looking for a mad scientist/doctor to apply on mi a vial so I´ll be able to experiment with an bigger dose.

[sunshinefrost]

Synaptic, Some are saying that 10 ml is way more effective yes.

I recently tried a cycle and commented and the effects. The effects on it are great but for the long term side of the story I would have to say that I can't really confirm a lasting improvement. I feel different off of it. I am still interested in this product so i will try the 1 year cycles (4x 20 amps, 1 month on 2 months off).

I hypothesize this: If I see an immediate response in my next cycle, the improvements of the previous cycle may still be lying around and i may still be able to cumulate on neurogenesis. it took 13 days to have a response in mys last cycle. We'll see in septembre if it takes 1 day or another 5 or 10 ...

by the way I just received an order by regular post and it's like 40 degrees Celsius outside. I don't know how long the vials have been left to cook in the heat. I am wondering if i can use this product now....can there be some chemical reactions that would ruin the product ? if it becomes less potent i don't mind, i will use it but if there is a health risk like infection then... not good.

any thoughts ?
did anyone ever use this after it was left in the heat ?

thanks

[Bigfuzz]

What gauge pins are you guys using? I am thinking of ordering some of this, but I really don't want to have to shoot this qd with a cannon

[sunshinefrost]

What gauge pins are you guys using? I am thinking of ordering some of this, but I really don't want to have to shoot this qd with a cannon

25G1

[Bigfuzz]

What gauge pins are you guys using? I am thinking of ordering some of this, but I really don't want to have to shoot this qd with a cannon

25G1

Thank you. Is this an oil based solution?

[sunshinefrost]

What gauge pins are you guys using? I am thinking of ordering some of this, but I really don't want to have to shoot this qd with a cannon

25G1

Thank you. Is this an oil based solution?

No it does not appear to have any viscosity. Just ask your pharmacist to give you the smallest "light" (smallest needle diameter)