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[sunshinefrost]

What were the longterm cognition effects for you? Did you JUST experience faster reaction time/productivity or did you feel an actuall increase in intelligence, like was understanding conscepts any easier than when you weren't on cerebrolysin? Any difference in logic/spatial reasoning or anything like that?

Tuff to say but i believe It gives you a taste on how you look and feel when you are clear, motivated and working hard enhancing yourself. With longer periods of sustained attention of course you work faster (at work or just cleaning up the appartment) but you tackle and pulverize a lot more problems then you would before cerebrolysin. Concentration is the key here, improved concentration, or contemplation if you want. If a challenging concept is presented, i feel more equiped to break it down or visualise it, untill you get it... so yes it becomes easier, clearer. You feel like the brain electricity has been amped. More electricity equals stronger signals and a stronger stimuli. The more you use your braincells, the stronger your neural circuits become. What fires together wires together. Read books like "evolve your brain" and meditation practice books, they help setting ways to use your brain to the fullest. I'm not saying i'm smart, i'm saying i feel i'm gaining control of this brain of mine. And isn't controling or conquering one's self a wealthy goal to acheive if you want to reason better/be smarter ? Piracetam does not give you this quality of focus, the only thing i like about that nootropic is the verbal fluency... but it's a trade off for the occasional depressive foggy feeling.

I did not take any logic or spatial reasoning tests. Focusing intensely helped to improve in areas of my life.... that's the difference it made for me but i still have a lot of improvements to do. By the way you can't just expect to see drastic changes right away, you need to love being clear, love improving and become mindfull about your state of being. you must work at it to get maximum benefits.

Edited by sunshinefrost, 03 March 2012 - 06:05 AM.

[sunshinefrost]

An analogy: if you take steroids without working out, you will scrap your cycle

I really don't see how there could be a better nootropic. Bathing your brain i a neurotrophic substance, what else, besides taking NGF via eye drops like the Italian scientist Rita Levi-Montalcini did, can be better ? I hear some of you thinking of Regulator of G-protein signaling 14 (RGS14)... but that's not for now

Edited by sunshinefrost, 03 March 2012 - 09:40 PM.

[Gamerzneed]

An analogy: if you take steroids without working out, you will scrap your cycle

I really don't see how there could be a better nootropic. Bathing your brain i a neurotrophic substance, what else, besides taking NGF via eye drops like the Italian scientist Rita Levi-Montalcini did, can be better ? I hear some of you thinking of Regulator of G-protein signaling 14 (RGS14)... but that's not for now

do you think cerebrolysin can somehow increase working memory as well? It clearly increased memory for you, so maybe it's possible.

[sunshinefrost]

Yes i do think that. It has been developped for alzheimer so it definitly works at the right spot. The hippocampus is one of the brain regions that produces new brain cells really quickly, hence the formation of new memories or reactivated ones. I suspect cerebrolysin is acting and facilitating stuff in there somehow...

[themastadon]

Anyone out there who'd care to write up a general review of cerebrolysin? There are several spaced throughout the thread, but I'd love to read some new perspectives.

[Ampa-omega]

An analogy: if you take steroids without working out, you will scrap your cycle

I really don't see how there could be a better nootropic. Bathing your brain i a neurotrophic substance, what else, besides taking NGF via eye drops like the Italian scientist Rita Levi-Montalcini did, can be better ? I hear some of you thinking of Regulator of G-protein signaling 14 (RGS14)... but that's not for now

if only we can have a separate thread devoted to all research on RGS14, apparently you had to inject it into the brain.. and it had different effects if applied in different areas of the brain. but its definitely a interesting nootropic if it gets understood thats for sure.

Edited by Ampa-omega, 07 March 2012 - 06:48 AM.

[Ben]

To the cerebrolysin eaters: I assume some of you have been taking it for a while now, have you noticed its positive effects declining over time?

[Rior]

Being new to this forum I'm not entirely up on all the rules--but from what I understand thus far, sources are not to be stated in these threads. That said, I am having a substantial amount of trouble finding a legitimate cerebrolysin source that I would trust...IAS has it listed, but they're out of stock at the moment and, after inquiry, said they weren't quite sure when they'd have it back.

Anyone know of another decent, reliable source? (With decent pricing..? :D) Send me a PM if you do, it would be greeeeaaatly appreciated. Trying to recover after post-concussive syndrome, after my fourth (and a half) concussion. Pramiracetam and other racetams have done well so far, but cerebrolysin looks extraordinarily promising in combination.

On the note of racetam combinations, I see everyone talking about combining Piracetam with cerebrolysin--but has anyone tried a combination with any other racetam? Pramiracetam has been essentially a godsend for me, bringing back my word fluency and organizing my thoughts, and has been 1000x more helpful for me than Piracetam. Granted everyone's chemistry is different, it'd be great to see if anyone has tried cerebrolysin in combination with any other racetam.

[Ben]

That said, I am having a substantial amount of trouble finding a legitimate cerebrolysin source

Try and get a prescription for it. If you do, let me know, and I'll send you a link to a cheap source for Rx holders.

There's always drugs-pro and pharmacy1010 too.

[Rior]

That said, I am having a substantial amount of trouble finding a legitimate cerebrolysin source

Try and get a prescription for it. If you do, let me know, and I'll send you a link to a cheap source for Rx holders.

There's always drugs-pro and pharmacy1010 too.

Living in the United States, I'm not sure that's exactly possible considering the lack of FDA regulation :/ and my current doctor wouldn't do so, as he would then not be covered by his malpractice insurance.

Edit: Also, cannot seem to find a link to either drugs-pro or pharmacy1010. xD

Edited by Izat04, 09 March 2012 - 01:24 AM.

[dreamwolf]

I am still having trouble getting cerebrolysin. I have tried drugspro (intercepted), pharmacy1010 (requested rush delivery, now has been over two weeks since shipped without receiving), ias (perpetually backordered - about to cancel order after several months of waiting). What other sources are there? Is there any availability domestically - within the 'states? At this point I am seriously considering getting a passport and taking a trip to mexico to procure - which is not something I am crazy about doing.

Please advise.

[Rior]

I'm considering this site called med-help, but of course I'm still questioning whether it's a scam or not. Called their customer service line to ask and they seemed very legitimate over the phone, citing that their cerebrolysin is purchased from a Viennan manufacturer that created it for a Ukranian market, but I'm still questioning. They said it would take 2-3 weeks for arrival from the UK. Shame this isn't more easily attained, considering all these remarkable reports people are giving >.>

[Rior]

Bump for source

[dreamwolf]

Found another site, superhumangear (dot) com. Looks like they have cerebrolysin but they sell it per ampoule? Anyone have an opinion on this site?

[fmeffem]

I have actually just ordered my first cycle from the site that you mentioned dreamwolf. This is my first post on this forum, but I have been lurking this topic in particular for quite a while. The company seems legit, and my package had tracking, and did arrive in Canada today, so I should have it by next week (I'm far out west). I'll keep you guys posted whether the cereb I get is legit or not.

[dreamwolf]

I have placed an order from superhumangear. Just for amusement, where could I send a sample for a quick analysis before being a test subject?

Still have not received my previous order from pharmacy1010....

[Reformed-Redan]

The uridine plus all the other stuff seems to be doing the same or similar thing with lower efficiency. Boosting phospholipids is a great thing be it from pig cranial fluid or whatnot.

[fmeffem]

An analysis seems like it would be quite pricey. Apparently, a tamper-resistant hologram from ebewe or ever neuro pharma on either the individual ampules, or the case is an indication of authenticity. I am impressed with the quick shipping as I ordered my package on Monday the 5th, and judging by Canada post standards, should get it by early next week. I can try to post some pics when I get my order, and compare it to the other pics previously posted on this topic.

Superhuman gear ships from Hungary FYI, and it took a week to get from Budapest to Montreal..that's not too shabby when you compared it to sites like pharmacy 1010 and ias which seem to take around a month, at a greater expense. I have also ordered a batch from Drugspro, and that should be coming in 3 weeks or so. I made the drugspro order because I wasn't too sure about superhumangear. The website simply doesn't have enough feedback, but it looks pretty good so far. They have google checkout and alertpay, which I like for more secure transactions. I still don't have the product in my hands, so hopefully I did not speak too soon. I was going to post about the site, if my order came in successfully, but dreamwolf beat me to it so I thought I would chime in now.

Edited by fmeffem, 15 March 2012 - 05:01 AM.

[sunshinefrost]

The hologram is probably a good indication. The best way though is to check for the serial or batch number on the individual ampoules. Call ebewe/ever pharma with this number and ask if it is a valid one. Not shure if they will cooperate but common sens tells me they should.

There is also an everpharma graph sand-blasted on every ampoules. Just peel-off the sticker ans check for a logo engraved in the glass.

[dreth7]

So sunshinefrost, would you recommend trying cere? I'm starting my first year of an accelerated 6 year ba/md program next year. Would it be a boon to studies, or would I be better off sticking with the basic noot stacks?

Thanks for the feedback,
Rob

[Rior]

Thought I just had--when IMing cerebrolysin, is it even necessary to aspirate? I figure even if you hit a vein, thats not necessarily a bad thing, no?

[sunshinefrost]

So sunshinefrost, would you recommend trying cere? I'm starting my first year of an accelerated 6 year ba/md program next year. Would it be a boon to studies, or would I be better off sticking with the basic noot stacks?

Thanks for the feedback,
Rob

Yes it would be beneficial. you could try it for a month and see before you start studying.The only advice i would give you is to be carefull with sleep. improved reading speed and memory could be a nice set of tools to have in your situation, you'll need them both

[dreth7]

Do you know the FDA status in America?

[Rior]

Any updates here on superhumangear? From reading your posts, they seem like my first option. I'm obviously curious to know if any of you have received it yet!

[sunshinefrost]

For those who ordered on superhuman, I hope you ordered the Box and not individual ampoules. You need 4 boxes (4x85$) if you want to do the whole month. You could also order 2 boxes and separate the ampoules in 2 but it's tricky, as soon as you break the ampoule, the air touches the liquid and then there are more chances for impurities.

[fmeffem]

I wanted to let you know that I got shipment from both Superhumangear and Drugspro pretty fast. The SHG order came in on Thursday (under 2 weeks after ordering), and the DP order on Friday (exactly 2 weeks after ordering).

Thanks for your advise on the sandblasting on the ampules sunshinefrost! The ampules from SHG seemed to be from Romania, had the sandblasting, but lacked the hologram on the boxes. The ampules from DP had both the sandblasting and the holograms but looked very similar to the SHG ones. I wonder if they don't put the holograms on the romanian product...hmmm

[Rior]

I wanted to let you know that I got shipment from both Superhumangear and Drugspro pretty fast. The SHG order came in on Thursday (under 2 weeks after ordering), and the DP order on Friday (exactly 2 weeks after ordering).

Thanks for your advise on the sandblasting on the ampules sunshinefrost! The ampules from SHG seemed to be from Romania, had the sandblasting, but lacked the hologram on the boxes. The ampules from DP had both the sandblasting and the holograms but looked very similar to the SHG ones. I wonder if they don't put the holograms on the romanian product...hmmm

I can't even find the correct URL for DP..mind setting me up with a PM link?

[sunshinefrost]

2 weeks is really Fast for DP. both of my orders took 1 month. If the hollograms aren't there it may be because the customs took them off, last time mine were cut with an exacto. DP is the real thing, i can assure you, for SHG you might want to compare how the product smells before using it or check with neuro pharma's batch nubers. Cerebrolysin has a certain particular smell... I could recognise it right away, you might want to use DP First... when you are finished you will be familiar to the odors and will be able to tell if SHG is cerebrolysin

[sunshinefrost]

fmeffem,

Have you started with Cerebrolysin ?

[sunshinefrost]

So this was the last of the first 5 injections and I am feeling noticeably better overall... But nowhere near how I thought I would feel, there's no crispness or increased hearing or vision or none of those, at least as far as I can tell.. as well as cognition is only moderately better not by a whole lot...

And yesterday I even somehow forgot my pin code to my credit card and got it blocked... which is funny as I thought cerebrolysin would give me far better working as well as other types of memory but doesn't seem so (at least not yet)

And i've had a lot of sleep and used piracetam (for the first time ever, at 2400mg doses together with cere so I expected far bigger improvements in overall alertness and memory but even these 2 things combined don't seem to do "much")

Marekso,

Did you go through the 2nd and 3rd week ? Did you respond to it ?