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[MangekyōPeter]

I've just now started dosing again by donig 5ml per day now for 3 days via IM and still am not feeling much.

Still have 8x 10ml vials so will probably switch to IV'ing it at 10ml/day instead of doing this by myself at home at lower dosages intramuscularly

in addition to cere am taking

pyritinol 200mg

noopept 30-60mg

ginko baloba

piracetam 2400mg

still waiting for the effects , and will report back if and once they come.

Edited by marekso, 24 March 2012 - 09:09 PM.

[Hypothermic]

I've just now started dosing again by donig 5ml per day now for 3 days via IM and still am not feeling much.

Still have 8x 10ml vials so will probably switch to IV'ing it at 10ml/day instead of doing this by myself at home at lower dosages intramuscularly

in addition to cere am taking

pyritinol 200mg

noopept 30-60mg

ginko baloba

piracetam 2400mg

still waiting for the effects , and will report back if and once they come.

What are you using to to deliver the compounds via IV? I'm in the process of searching for supplies for IM, but would rather take Cerebrolysin via IV if I can locate the supplies. I'm taking progress notes, videos, and pictures of my experience to document these profound effects on a living brain.

I ordered 4 boxes of Cerebrolysin and Noopept, and plan to take these compounds together.

[MangekyōPeter]

I'm going to a hospital on the days I want IV to get it done professionally slowly drippingly infused via system :D dunno how those things are called.. but basically as others have told me it's dangerous to IV by yourself.

[Hypothermic]

Would a hospital complete this operation for you if you were to give them toe medications? I want to order CRB from one of the austrian pharmacies posted here because of the price.

[dreamwolf]

One of the orders, the one from superhuman, finally made it through today. The 5 ampules came in a box, no hologram, but with something resembling braille on the front of the box. The ampules have the everpharma logo below the peel-off lables and what looks like two scores at a 90 degree angle from each other on the bottom of the ampules. I've attached pictures of the contents of the shipment.

It's interesting after so long anticipating receiving an order now that I have actually received an order there is again a little bit of trepidation at injecting oneself. I still don't have the needles/syringes to do the injections, and I suppose I'll be doing 10ml in a go - possibly split between two injection sites. Should I wait until I order more and have in my possession a month's quantity, or should I go ahead with this batch with a week or two off between batches? Maybe allowing myself some time to heal from being a pincushion or is it better not to interrupt any 'neurogenesis' initiated by the cere?

I did get ahold of some Uridine, and it seems to have improved my working memory in that I can retain longer alphanumeric strings in memory while working with them. I intend to remain on it while I take the cere being that it's more of a 'raw material' than a 'drug'.

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[Gamerzneed]

I think you should probably wait until you have a month's supply because you might possibly have a big loading phase like one poster in this thread had. You could take it now if you are expecting more ampoules to come in by the time you finish with your current supply so you wouldn't have to waste time. I'm just as eager as everyone but I think it's worth waiting if your going to have an interuptted cycle because you want to have the best badass effects as possible and the best chance of becoming brain-banging sherlock holmes super brain computer.

[mentat]

Awesome thread so far,

I will try to gain some of it myself and add some other factors to it:

Im planning to use it 3-4 weeks, 5g / Day, 5 Days / week

1. I will go out everyday to get fresh air and walk (nor jogg or run) for one hour.
2. I will do resistance training 1-2 times a week (HIT, very intense short time)
3. I will maybe try to use the Tabata Protocol for enzymatic upregulation of some Proteins ( i guess the body will make more use of the air it gets and thus is more effective of using air in a resting state, tell me if that makes sense)
http://en.wikipedia....terval_training
4. I'am doing the N-Back every day for 20 minutes (since its shown to increase intelligence extremely over a period of 20 Days)
5. I'am drinking no alcohol at that time (dunno why you would drink anyways while doing an experiment like that?)
6. I'am doing Heart Centred Breathing Technique with my EmWave (Biofeedback Device) for 20 minutes every day (since it vastly reduces anxiety and decreses stress hormones)
7. I will eat a Diet that is rich in saturated fats (healthy fish, beef, liver) lots of veggies
8. No sugar, wheat, additives (aspartame, acesulfame and the like)
9. I will try to eat 4-6 raw (i know theres a risk but iam willing to take that) egg yolks a day (since i noticed i get huge mental clearness and energy from the choline in it)
10. Iam also doing cold showers every day (dunno if that's a good thing since it enhances my immunesystem to a f**** extreme level every time i do it and thus could increase the wilingness of my body to fight the foreign protein, please help me on that)
11. Iam getting a good nights sleep (8 Hours) if i can.

Thats my formula so far. I will probably try start in the next 1-2 months :-)

I would love to add 2 more points that are experimental and theoretical:

12. Infrared laser therapy on the brain. It has been shown that specific wave lenghts affect ATP production in the mitos in your brain...i guess the effects would be synergistic to the drug and would help new born neurons to differentiate better.
13. HBO (hyper baric oxygen) Therapy - but thats too expensive and probably unattainable at the current moment.

[Junk Master]

Very cool. I'll be eagerly waiting for your results. Could you also take a measurement of your body fat percentage (even rough) at the beginning and end.

[Ben]

Awesome thread so far,

I will try to gain some of it myself and add some other factors to it:

Im planning to use it 3-4 weeks, 5g / Day, 5 Days / week

Hi there, please keep us updated on your progress. If you link to a journal / blog of your experiences, I (and I'm sure everyone else here) will check it out for sure.

I wonder what the effect of combining CRB with TDCS would be (and then on top of that, piracetam and everything else you're doing. Maybe actual mentathood.)

[mentat]

Hey Ben,

i will write a journal as i always do when doing experiments. I've just completed a modafinil and ritalin experiment.

I'am also in the planning phase of my own tDCS machine, ive put the list together and have to make an order the next days. That means i will built it myself at home ;-)

As russianbear stated, i will probably not do any other nootropics at the time when i take the Cerebrolysin, only fish oil and vitamin d which iam taking on a regular basis.

But i will definately post the exact list and methods here as soon as i can get hands on the stuff, if anyone has connections or knows someone who knows someone please message me!

[mag1]

Is Cerebrolysin legally available in Canada for Alzheimer`s disease? Is a prescription required?

[strider]

Awesome thread so far,

I will try to gain some of it myself and add some other factors to it:

Im planning to use it 3-4 weeks, 5g / Day, 5 Days / week

1. I will go out everyday to get fresh air and walk (nor jogg or run) for one hour.
2. I will do resistance training 1-2 times a week (HIT, very intense short time)
3. I will maybe try to use the Tabata Protocol for enzymatic upregulation of some Proteins ( i guess the body will make more use of the air it gets and thus is more effective of using air in a resting state, tell me if that makes sense)
http://en.wikipedia....terval_training
4. I'am doing the N-Back every day for 20 minutes (since its shown to increase intelligence extremely over a period of 20 Days)
5. I'am drinking no alcohol at that time (dunno why you would drink anyways while doing an experiment like that?)
6. I'am doing Heart Centred Breathing Technique with my EmWave (Biofeedback Device) for 20 minutes every day (since it vastly reduces anxiety and decreses stress hormones)
7. I will eat a Diet that is rich in saturated fats (healthy fish, beef, liver) lots of veggies
8. No sugar, wheat, additives (aspartame, acesulfame and the like)
9. I will try to eat 4-6 raw (i know theres a risk but iam willing to take that) egg yolks a day (since i noticed i get huge mental clearness and energy from the choline in it)
10. Iam also doing cold showers every day (dunno if that's a good thing since it enhances my immunesystem to a f**** extreme level every time i do it and thus could increase the wilingness of my body to fight the foreign protein, please help me on that)
11. Iam getting a good nights sleep (8 Hours) if i can.

Thats my formula so far. I will probably try start in the next 1-2 months :-)

I would love to add 2 more points that are experimental and theoretical:

12. Infrared laser therapy on the brain. It has been shown that specific wave lenghts affect ATP production in the mitos in your brain...i guess the effects would be synergistic to the drug and would help new born neurons to differentiate better.
13. HBO (hyper baric oxygen) Therapy - but thats too expensive and probably unattainable at the current moment.

the choline boost from the yolks...does that only happen from the raw eggs? what about cooked??

[mentat]

Hey strider,

im using raw yolks, cause their better used raw. The whites are usally better absorbed when cooked. But i prefer yolks raw in my shakes, i guess theres not a huge gain, but im trying to optimize things.

I just got this quote from another site, not sure if its 100% correct, but it correlates with what ive read so far on biotin absorption:

"the white of the egg has been said to interfere with biotin assimilation, but nature knows best by making the egg yolk very rich in biotin."

Theres a good post on eggs on cholesterol and health, if you want to dig deeper into that.

http://www.cholester...m/Egg_Yolk.html

For me its yolks raw, whites cooked to get the full brain boosting effects of this super food.

[mentat]

Very cool. I'll be eagerly waiting for your results. Could you also take a measurement of your body fat percentage (even rough) at the beginning and end.

Good Point, but i dont think body fat measures are good. Because i lack the technology to do it.

There are good things like BodPod that measure via air pressure or Full Body mri Scans but thats not affordable.

I can only make a rough estimate ;-)

[katzenjammer]

I'm considering trying IM Cerebrolysin. As well as some others here, I'm a concussion sufferer (lifelong ice hockey player) and am concerned about the long term effects of my concussion history.

I'm curious, however, about whether anyone finds Memoprove to be nearly as effective in effecting positive outcomes regarding memory enhancement and so on.

[bbminded]

Its interesting that you brought up the Infrared laser therapy on the brain. The name for this biofeedback therapy is called HEG

(hemoencephalography). It is a therapy tool/device that you put onto your forehead and use software where in which the more you focus(visual focus on something in the software/computer screen) means that more blood is brought to the Pre-Frontal Cortex of the brain. And why is this so effective.....Your Pre-frontal-Cortex is the "executive" or "CEO"(as its been called) of the brain, and helps the rest of the brain work optimally.

Im sure many of you already know this, but up until about 15-20years ago, its was thought that the PFC of the brain was the least important part of the overall function of the brain. Well it turns out that the the opposite is true, and a highly functioning/overdeveloped PFC could result in a "superhuman" brain!

I am actually getting ready to start my second cycle of Cerebrolysin, and have bought a nirHEG

(hemoencephalography) device and software to use three times a week!!

If you go to

http://www.brain-tra...brain_training/ it will better explain this device and how it works! But needles to say i am extremely excited to have found out about this technology(if you read through the website i posted you will understand maybe why) and be able to combine it with my Cerebrolysin cycle!
Im also going to include audio/visual therapy with the use of another biofeedback device and software that can read my skin conductance level and heart rate which will use my thoughts, emotions, and breathing to complete the mind & body training(software) events for Learning or Improving a meditation practice, mindfulness, brain training, stress relief, feeling more vibrant, and taking the edge off anxious or negative feelings. see wilddivine.com for more information!

Awesome thread so far,

I will try to gain some of it myself and add some other factors to it:

Im planning to use it 3-4 weeks, 5g / Day, 5 Days / week

1. I will go out everyday to get fresh air and walk (nor jogg or run) for one hour.
2. I will do resistance training 1-2 times a week (HIT, very intense short time)
3. I will maybe try to use the Tabata Protocol for enzymatic upregulation of some Proteins ( i guess the body will make more use of the air it gets and thus is more effective of using air in a resting state, tell me if that makes sense)
http://en.wikipedia....terval_training
4. I'am doing the N-Back every day for 20 minutes (since its shown to increase intelligence extremely over a period of 20 Days)
5. I'am drinking no alcohol at that time (dunno why you would drink anyways while doing an experiment like that?)
6. I'am doing Heart Centred Breathing Technique with my EmWave (Biofeedback Device) for 20 minutes every day (since it vastly reduces anxiety and decreses stress hormones)
7. I will eat a Diet that is rich in saturated fats (healthy fish, beef, liver) lots of veggies
8. No sugar, wheat, additives (aspartame, acesulfame and the like)
9. I will try to eat 4-6 raw (i know theres a risk but iam willing to take that) egg yolks a day (since i noticed i get huge mental clearness and energy from the choline in it)
10. Iam also doing cold showers every day (dunno if that's a good thing since it enhances my immunesystem to a f**** extreme level every time i do it and thus could increase the wilingness of my body to fight the foreign protein, please help me on that)
11. Iam getting a good nights sleep (8 Hours) if i can.

Thats my formula so far. I will probably try start in the next 1-2 months :-)

I would love to add 2 more points that are experimental and theoretical:

12. Infrared laser therapy on the brain. It has been shown that specific wave lenghts affect ATP production in the mitos in your brain...i guess the effects would be synergistic to the drug and would help new born neurons to differentiate better.
13. HBO (hyper baric oxygen) Therapy - but thats too expensive and probably unattainable at the current moment.

[sunshinefrost]

I'm considering trying IM Cerebrolysin. As well as some others here, I'm a concussion sufferer (lifelong ice hockey player) and am concerned about the long term effects of my concussion history.

I'm curious, however, about whether anyone finds Memoprove to be nearly as effective in effecting positive outcomes regarding memory enhancement and so on.

Hey Katzenjammer!

Memoprove is very weak compared to cerebrolysin IM. I just finished 3 months of memoprove and i barely felt it, did not notice any memory enhancement. the dose is 1 pill each day, and at this quantity you don't notice anything. 2 and 3 pills are more noticable but, just like with cerebrolysin, makes you sharper but i have sleeping issues with this dosage.

Memoprove has it's evident advantages but it's effect are sublte. If you are not looking for an edge, taking neurotrophic substances like this should "maintain" your functions if that's your aim. For noticable memory change i would suggest cerebrolysin.

[katzenjammer]

Hey thanks sunshinefrost - kinda figured that might be so.

I suppose my other question is whether we have a handle on safety - especially regarding the possibility of accidental prion transmission. Is this a real concern?

[sunshinefrost]

There has been good discussions about this concern in the early pages of this Cerebrolysin thread back in 2009 ! I really don't know enough about that to argue though.

Edited by sunshinefrost, 28 April 2012 - 03:29 PM.

[lourdaud]

One thing I think is missing in this thread is the possible risks associated with cerebrolysin. What risks are there?? I mean this seems to be possibly the no. 1 nootropic so are there any reasons not to take this shit???

[sunshinefrost]

One thing I think is missing in this thread is the possible risks associated with cerebrolysin. What risks are there?? I mean this seems to be possibly the no. 1 nootropic so are there any reasons not to take this shit???

If you are considering this nootropic i would suggest you read most of the posts in this thread, a lot of anecdotal but also a lot of sources. i agree it sounds long but it's worth absorbing the info.

[lourdaud]

One thing I think is missing in this thread is the possible risks associated with cerebrolysin. What risks are there?? I mean this seems to be possibly the no. 1 nootropic so are there any reasons not to take this shit???

If you are considering this nootropic i would suggest you read most of the posts in this thread, a lot of anecdotal but also a lot of sources. i agree it sounds long but it's worth absorbing the info.

Already did but I thought a nice recap of what we know would be nice..

[sunshinefrost]

A recap of only the major concerns about this noot, with all it's science, from all those posts, would requier me to take the NZT pill

[Ampa-omega]

best do your research before messing with things that could have prions( and probably other diseases could contaminate an animal extract, which is quite unsettling. best advice would be to look for high quality cerebrolysin and reputable sellers, and it might be quicker to search in google for cerebrolysin + prion instead of looking through pages upon pages of old threads. but then again it might take some digging through the old threads since there is so many pages, use the edit>find feature in your browser if you have it.

some links from google
http://www.longecity...in/page__st__90
http://www.longecity...n/page__st__105
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prion

Edited by Ampa-omega, 01 May 2012 - 10:34 PM.

[BigGuy1980]

Im in the middle of week 3 at 5ml a day (5 days on 2 days off)... I havent noticed much... Yes, I have been having lucid dreams, but thats about all...? I am contemplating bumping it up to 10ml in week 4 if I dont notice something soon... I am in the middle of board certification tests that will last the next 6 months, and something like this would sure help, if it works.

[sunshinefrost]

Im in the middle of week 3 at 5ml a day (5 days on 2 days off)... I havent noticed much... Yes, I have been having lucid dreams, but thats about all...? I am contemplating bumping it up to 10ml in week 4 if I dont notice something soon... I am in the middle of board certification tests that will last the next 6 months, and something like this would sure help, if it works.

how much do you weigh ? i responded around the 11th day. let me know how it goes

[BigGuy1980]

Im in the middle of week 3 at 5ml a day (5 days on 2 days off)... I havent noticed much... Yes, I have been having lucid dreams, but thats about all...? I am contemplating bumping it up to 10ml in week 4 if I dont notice something soon... I am in the middle of board certification tests that will last the next 6 months, and something like this would sure help, if it works.

how much do you weigh ? i responded around the 11th day. let me know how it goes

Im 6-2, 235... I was thinking around the same lines that perhaps me being larger would require a larger dose.. With most supplements, I tend to be on the higher range to notice results.. Is there anything I can do to make myself more receptive? ...Less weight is probably a good starting point, but Im about 10% now...

What are your stats? ..it gives me a bench mark to look at....

[Rior]

Going back to sources here, is it worth ordering from superhuman gear, or should I just go with drugspro? Bigguy, where did you use to get your cerebro?

[BigGuy1980]

Ive been running Cerebro from drugspro but I have some coming from superhumangear to see if there is a difference... I also want to try ergo, and IAS.... if I am still unsatisfied...

[sunshinefrost]

BigGuy, I don't really have any bench marks. Did you up it ? what type of stats are you looking for ?

Edited by sunshinefrost, 13 May 2012 - 07:35 PM.