Cerebrolysin
#631
Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:48 PM
I will continue my regiment with cerebro, but instead of hoping/looking/forcing the effect, I will take my studies and do the best I can... Perhaps this will allow me to dial down my anxiety a bit and inturn give me the desired effect.... Overall, I am in a happy place in life... But that desire of moving forward has added pressures and angst to passing these exams...
I have ordered some 5-htp to add to my supplements to hopefully help quell the anxiety... Any other recommendations out there? I practice bikram yoga, do weights... Its just a never ending battle to try and keep myself balanced...
#632
Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:31 PM
#633
Posted 25 May 2012 - 03:34 PM
#634
Posted 28 May 2012 - 03:05 PM
#635
Posted 30 May 2012 - 12:48 AM
obtain a prescription, it would be necessary for me to have an appointment with a neurologist.
It would be much easier to just buy Cerebrolysin online. Can you really ship Cerebrolysin to Canada with full customs declaration
without a prescription?
#636
Posted 09 June 2012 - 03:56 PM
What do you think, would it be too big a risk to get it from Thailand? Bear in mind that the Chinese are making their own Cerebrolysin by hammer squashing pigbrains, so the risk for counterfeits might not be so small..
#637
Posted 11 June 2012 - 05:53 AM
#638
Posted 14 June 2012 - 11:43 AM
i ordered from there a few months ago and about to again today, everything came in about 3 1/2 weeks from budapest, hungary. next time i will order using ems. ems for most orders is $60, I asked personally via email.I just ordered some cerebrolysin from superhuman gear. Any reports on efficacy/quality of their product?
i don't have anything to compare it to, but i'm also no idiot either. after about day 5 i was feeling a pleasent "more with it sensation", this got much better until day 7-8, i definately felt a reasonable sense of cognitive enhancement within 10mins or so of iming. i don't know how to describe the feeling but its like being washed clean and new from the inside, I think others will agree with this statement having done a course. To truly understand though you must of course do it.
I can't wait to begin again soon, it was a seriously great medication. $90 a box for 5x10ml vials. Brand Ever Neuro Pharma.
Next order will be soon, and via ems, I will report delivery times to pacific coast via ems once received.
Hope this is useful
#639
Posted 14 June 2012 - 04:10 PM
i ordered from there a few months ago and about to again today, everything came in about 3 1/2 weeks from budapest, hungary. next time i will order using ems. ems for most orders is $60, I asked personally via email.
i don't have anything to compare it to, but i'm also no idiot either. after about day 5 i was feeling a pleasent "more with it sensation", this got much better until day 7-8, i definately felt a reasonable sense of cognitive enhancement within 10mins or so of iming. i don't know how to describe the feeling but its like being washed clean and new from the inside, I think others will agree with this statement having done a course. To truly understand though you must of course do it.
I can't wait to begin again soon, it was a seriously great medication. $90 a box for 5x10ml vials. Brand Ever Neuro Pharma.
Next order will be soon, and via ems, I will report delivery times to pacific coast via ems once received.
Hope this is useful
Thanks so much for getting back to me on this! I ordered 10 x 10ml vials and plan to do 5ml a day for 20 days. What kind of dosing were you doing? Do you think 5ml is too little/too much?
Thanks
#640
Posted 15 June 2012 - 02:09 PM
Thanks so much for getting back to me on this! I ordered 10 x 10ml vials and plan to do 5ml a day for 20 days. What kind of dosing were you doing? Do you think 5ml is too little/too much?
Thanks
Do they deliver this stuff in some kind of special container to assure the medication stays cool enough?
Does anyone know if the temperature is of any real concern btw?
Hmm and also, is it the ampoules only that you get, or do you get it complete with syringes and everything?? :O
#641
Posted 15 June 2012 - 03:17 PM
#642
Posted 15 June 2012 - 04:14 PM
Do they deliver this stuff in some kind of special container to assure the medication stays cool enough?
Does anyone know if the temperature is of any real concern btw?
Hmm and also, is it the ampoules only that you get, or do you get it complete with syringes and everything?? :O
I don't think they give you syringes, but I could be wrong. I ordered some 25G x 1" syringes from a Thailand seller on "a popular auction site" for the IM injections. Everything should arrive around the same time.
I'm just wondering if my 5ml/day dosage is appropriate.
As far as I know room temperature is fine, most drugs/peptides that are temperature sensitive or unstable in liquid form are shipped in powder form and have to be reconstituted with BAC water. So the fact that it comes in liquid form must mean that it's pretty stable to begin with... that's an assumption though.
#643
Posted 19 June 2012 - 12:59 AM
Is it ok to do 5 x 1ml IM injections per day? Or is this somehow a bad idea?
#644
Posted 19 June 2012 - 02:11 AM
#645
Posted 19 June 2012 - 03:09 AM
Also, been trying to read through the thread but can't seem to find the consensus... Is filtering to remove glass particles a must? Are most people filtering this? Thanks
No need to filter if you use an amp cutter...should snap clean.
#646
Posted 19 June 2012 - 08:43 PM
Also, been trying to read through the thread but can't seem to find the consensus... Is filtering to remove glass particles a must? Are most people filtering this? Thanks
No need to filter if you use an amp cutter...should snap clean.
You don't really even need a amp cutter since its prescored (white dot tells you where the score is). As for glass its going to get in there no matter how you open it (http://www.dtic.mil/.../u2/a284401.pdf), but you can reduce the bigger chunks from getting in you by using a small gadge needle to draw if your paranoid. Jury is still out on filtering out glass in generial.
#647
Posted 22 June 2012 - 07:35 PM
good technique alone should be enough to ensure a nice clean break across the neck. theres always the possibility of microscopic bits but i try not to think about those things
#648
Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:38 AM
in general, after you get the hang of opening a ampule properly, you'll have plenty to practice on..
good technique alone should be enough to ensure a nice clean break across the neck. theres always the possibility of microscopic bits but i try not to think about those things
Thanks for the response. Had another question. I noticed that the liquid has a slight "egg-like" odor. Is that normal? Also, how long did it take to start feeling the effects? I've been dosing 10ml in two divided injections for 5 days now and haven't noticed much. Should I just be doing 5ml until I feel the effects? Am I wasting it?
I also am thinking I might wait to do a proper run (1-2 months) of this stuff in the winter time. I'm afraid that the ampules are reaching temperatures over 25C while in route, which I'm guessing could degrade the potency.
Definitely gave me diarrhea and flu-like symptoms on the first two days, but those sides have gone away.
#649
Posted 23 June 2012 - 07:44 AM
#650
Posted 23 June 2012 - 11:55 AM
to be honest i started really feeling it better when i switched from iving to iming, try alternating to see if you can tell a difference. i noticed directly comparing the days i iv'd and im'd i preferred the days i im'd.
your mileage may vary, i think it worked better for me because it was a more regular curve to peak plasma levels than direct iv, which made it last longer/feel more balanced overall.
#651
Posted 23 June 2012 - 02:21 PM
I can't imagine CERE making anyone feel like that, when you're done with the loading up phase, if you iv you should def feel at least a wave of warmth at first. if you im i find it feels more like you took a shower, it's hard to describe but if you do it you'll know what I'm talking about. you just feel super clean, thoughts flow lmore fluiidly, it's like giving your brain a shower, it feels fresher and there's almost a water-like quality in how it feels as it kicks in.
I would think feeling flu-like symptoms is a pretty sure indicator that you injected a contaminate, probably without realizing it.
for reference i was doing 10ml via 2 im injections daily, one in each glute or quad. and trying both ways, I found that without sophisticated equipment to do a slow infusion, i got more out of it after switching to im. you should def consider switching for a few days to see how it effects you differently and which you prefer.
i felt it on day 5 but you should feel it sometime between day 4 and 10, everyones abit differen if your'e doing at least 5ml a day and 5 on 2 off, i would expect the initial preloading phase to take about 5 days, otherwise if you're going by the 1day on/1day off cycle in the beginning. you might want to reconsider completing the load phase of your cycle without any breaks so that it doesnt take unusually long for your body to catch up with the beginning of the cycle.
if you're not feeling it by box 3 you really might want to re-examine and explore alternate techniques like switching from iv to im to see if it makes a noticeable difference. Also 5cc's is a pretty huge barrel, i iv'd with a 22 gauge and the 5cc plunger was still a chore and a half to work with administering myself. i reccomend using a winged infusion set and setting up a temporary saline lock site using paper tape and the infusion set.
Here's a link to where to get these infusion sets reallly cheap: http://www.allegrome...ts-p549267.html
if you can find a better deal than this place, well, i dare you to compare lol.
And here is a picture of a saline lock, hopefully you can see what im getting at here when looking at the infusion set and this picture, using this techinque makes self iv super easy and stress free. To be honest i don't think I can reccomend anyone here to iv it themselves unless they have the ability to setup a saline lock or at least create one thats temporary with the winged infusion set. It would do some good to be familiar with how to run a saline lock for an iv, there is good material on the internet, and you can simplify everything quite substantially by using a winged infusion set to create a temporary lock more or less, just add tape!
When you're self administering via iv you reall do require setting somethign up similar to this, using a standard straightbody syringe to inject the cerebrolysin is not an efffective or reccomended way to administer it, its reccomended only to iv slowly the 10ml over approx 15minutes or it will drasticaly alter the ability of your body to take full advantage of the benefits of iv and its easy to cut yourself short by rushing things. This is why i prefer iming CERE.
this is a simple problem of physics, and moving the pllunger on a 5 cc syringe attached to a 23/25G needle, well im sure you can figure out pretty quickly that moving that barrel is about as easy as changing lanes on the freeway when all your mirrors are broken.
I'm not sure if your'e familiar with butterfly or winged infusion sets, but I'm starting my second cycle and this time i opted to pick up a box of winged infusion sets with a 12inch leurlok whip. the'yre normally incredibly expensive but i found a site that offers these sets really cheap. I'd go as far as to say I wouldn't go back to iving this with a conventional needle/syringe, using a butterfly with 12inch whip gives you alot more flexibility and maneuverability which means of course increased stability too.
be sure you readup on infusion techniques and iv techniques so you're familiar with how this will work, I forget exact numbers but I believe 12inches of tubing will hold about 1cc of liquid so you'll need to prepare a 3cc saline flush only syringe to clear the line prior to removal.
i used to be a venipuncture technician, if you have any questions let me know, its important that you commit to doing iv correct(which is slow infusion), or stick to doing it via im. i found out the hard way its really easy to waste alot of expensive product in the beginning by thinking you can just inject 5ml at a time into your veins. I wish i had caught on to this sooner myself.
Edited by Joe Black, 23 June 2012 - 02:30 PM.
#652
Posted 23 June 2012 - 04:10 PM
I noticed on most online product info for cereb that nausea and GI issues are the most common side effects. So I wasn't too worried about it. Also, something probably foolish of me, but which could have added to the sides is that I've been taking Melanotan II 0.5mg SQ injection daily. Not until after I'd been taking both together for a few days did I read about the possible interactions with short peptides and cerebrolysin. Although I'm not sure what the risks are.....
So I'll just keep doing the 10ml per day until I run out. So far I haven't noticed much that could be distinguished from placebo effect. The only pronounced effect I've noticed so far is increased emotional sensitivity. It seems I'm much more susceptible to getting my feelings hurt over things that aren't necessarily even directed towards me. I have cycling sensations of feeling ultra sensitive and insecure. Feelings I haven't really had since high-school, LOL.
At this dosage and from the source I purchased from this cycle will cost me $600USD+ per month. Do you have a cheaper yet reliable source? I'm pretty sure that's the most common question related to this stuff.
#653
Posted 26 June 2012 - 03:55 PM
I say that simply because halfway through a cerebrolysin cycle(assuming its legit and that your im procedure is perfect) you should feel on top of the world right now! it has a very profound not necessarily anti-depressant, but i couldn't imagine feeling anything but amazing halfway through a cycle of what i did a few months ago and am about to start again. I'm waitng on my EMS shipment right now. :D
What kind of points are you using? I ask because when i was looking up the other drug you mentioned it seemed to be one of those where you fill a 1cc up and it lasts you awhile. Just to check, you are for sure working with a needle thats around 1 and a quarter inches long or more and sticking it in all the way right? If not make sure you go all the way in. Especially in the leg and glutes its easy to accidentally inject it into the fatty tissue instead of the muscle unless you specifically go all the way in until you feel that second resistance similar to the skin, then break through that and keep going till you bury the needle to the hub(this is on a roughly 1 and a quarter inch long point) you probably already know that the only nerves in the area are in the skin so once your through that youre gold.
I can't possibly imagine if its real CERE and you're administering it correctly and there's not some kind of weird interaction going on with something else, that it'd make you more sensitive. It's very much the opposite, you feel like you can do anything on it!
Be sure its real CERE, that you're definately shooting it deep enough, into muscle and not into fat. and that your're only taking it. If it keeps making you feel bad i would recommend stopping it and possibly waiting till that other stufff is out of your system or trying some from superhumangear, i know his is legit.
I'm thinking you're onto something with the interaction with melanotan II, there's really no way to know what all it could be effecting, but I read its a pituitary hormone with some interesting side effects, and the feelings you describe are very typical of those caused by hormones. I would give it a break, and make sure its completely out of your system if it keeps up because you dont want the CERE to rewire your brain with all these new connections to feelings like that, that would only end badly, sort of like you wouldn't want to watch horror movies every night while on it. lol :D
#654
Posted 26 June 2012 - 07:23 PM
The social aspect is definitely there and lack of anxiety and depression. Not feeling quite as good today but my sleep schedule is really bad right now which likely has something to do with it.
Empathy and moral support to my friends seems to be much more fulfilling as well. I'll update more in a few hours hopefully, quite busy at the moment.
#655
Posted 30 June 2012 - 03:16 AM
#656
Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:15 AM
Actually that's where I'm getting it from too. I guess I was calculating the shipping price into it since I paid 210 for 2 boxes of 5 x 10ml. Actually on day 7 (yesterday) I started feeling really awesome. I'm quite certain I'm hitting IM spots, it just seems to have taken a while to acclimate in my system.
The social aspect is definitely there and lack of anxiety and depression. Not feeling quite as good today but my sleep schedule is really bad right now which likely has something to do with it.
Empathy and moral support to my friends seems to be much more fulfilling as well. I'll update more in a few hours hopefully, quite busy at the moment.
How about 80$ per box?
#657
Posted 02 July 2012 - 05:10 PM
http://www.era-z.ru/...r_di_5ml_amp_n5
Not sure if I'd trust it considering I can't speak russian, but I figured it was worth sharing.
#658
Posted 02 July 2012 - 07:47 PM
#659
Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:04 AM
Here's a russian source I've found that has 5 5ml ampoules of Cerebro for ~$27. Figured it after translating the website, and converting the rubles to dollars. Cheers!
http://www.era-z.ru/...r_di_5ml_amp_n5
Not sure if I'd trust it considering I can't speak russian, but I figured it was worth sharing.
There are a few pharmacies with great prices on Russian meds. But like the above poster mentioned, they usually only deliver to Moscow or ship within Russia. Which is why there are Ukrainian, Turkish, and other countries capitalizing on the export of the medicine. Noopept goes for less than 10 US dollars a box in Moscow, lol
#660
Posted 03 July 2012 - 03:49 AM
i ordered from there a few months ago and about to again today, everything came in about 3 1/2 weeks from budapest, hungary. next time i will order using ems. ems for most orders is $60, I asked personally via email.
i don't have anything to compare it to, but i'm also no idiot either. after about day 5 i was feeling a pleasent "more with it sensation", this got much better until day 7-8, i definately felt a reasonable sense of cognitive enhancement within 10mins or so of iming. i don't know how to describe the feeling but its like being washed clean and new from the inside, I think others will agree with this statement having done a course. To truly understand though you must of course do it.
I can't wait to begin again soon, it was a seriously great medication. $90 a box for 5x10ml vials. Brand Ever Neuro Pharma.
Next order will be soon, and via ems, I will report delivery times to pacific coast via ems once received.
Hope this is useful
Thanks so much for getting back to me on this! I ordered 10 x 10ml vials and plan to do 5ml a day for 20 days. What kind of dosing were you doing? Do you think 5ml is too little/too much?
Thanks
Sounds decent, I can't speak from experience since I always do 10ml a day, you might try trying to get some more and finish out the last week at 10ml a day to see if it makes the difference for you. I just know my experiences have been solid and super positive at the 10ml a day dosage, IM.
For the record I'm about 110lbs with probably near zero body fat. Also I can definately feel it much sooner than most people, not the "full force of it," but I can definately feel a change overall on even the first day and it only gets better from there. :D
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