also, again, ymmv but I never once experienced diarrhea or flu like symptoms, i'm thinking those could just be coincidence instead of directly related.
I can't imagine CERE making anyone feel like that, when you're done with the loading up phase, if you iv you should def feel at least a wave of warmth at first. if you im i find it feels more like you took a shower, it's hard to describe but if you do it you'll know what I'm talking about. you just feel super clean, thoughts flow lmore fluiidly, it's like giving your brain a shower, it feels fresher and there's almost a water-like quality in how it feels as it kicks in.
I would think feeling flu-like symptoms is a pretty sure indicator that you injected a contaminate, probably without realizing it.
for reference i was doing 10ml via 2 im injections daily, one in each glute or quad. and trying both ways, I found that without sophisticated equipment to do a slow infusion, i got more out of it after switching to im. you should def consider switching for a few days to see how it effects you differently and which you prefer.
i felt it on day 5 but you should feel it sometime between day 4 and 10, everyones abit differen if your'e doing at least 5ml a day and 5 on 2 off, i would expect the initial preloading phase to take about 5 days, otherwise if you're going by the 1day on/1day off cycle in the beginning. you might want to reconsider completing the load phase of your cycle without any breaks so that it doesnt take unusually long for your body to catch up with the beginning of the cycle.
if you're not feeling it by box 3 you really might want to re-examine and explore alternate techniques like switching from iv to im to see if it makes a noticeable difference. Also 5cc's is a pretty huge barrel, i iv'd with a 22 gauge and the 5cc plunger was still a chore and a half to work with administering myself. i reccomend using a winged infusion set and setting up a temporary saline lock site using paper tape and the infusion set.
Here's a link to where to get these infusion sets reallly cheap:
http://www.allegrome...ts-p549267.htmlif you can find a better deal than this place, well, i dare you to compare lol.
And here is a picture of a saline lock, hopefully you can see what im getting at here when looking at the infusion set and this picture, using this techinque makes self iv super easy and stress free. To be honest i don't think I can reccomend anyone here to iv it themselves unless they have the ability to setup a saline lock or at least create one thats temporary with the winged infusion set. It would do some good to be familiar with how to run a saline lock for an iv, there is good material on the internet, and you can simplify everything quite substantially by using a winged infusion set to create a temporary lock more or less, just add tape!
When you're self administering via iv you reall do require setting somethign up similar to this, using a standard straightbody syringe to inject the cerebrolysin is not an efffective or reccomended way to administer it, its reccomended only to iv slowly the 10ml over approx 15minutes or it will drasticaly alter the ability of your body to take full advantage of the benefits of iv and its easy to cut yourself short by rushing things. This is why i prefer iming CERE.
this is a simple problem of physics, and moving the pllunger on a 5 cc syringe attached to a 23/25G needle, well im sure you can figure out pretty quickly that moving that barrel is about as easy as changing lanes on the freeway when all your mirrors are broken.
I'm not sure if your'e familiar with butterfly or winged infusion sets, but I'm starting my second cycle and this time i opted to pick up a box of winged infusion sets with a 12inch leurlok whip. the'yre normally incredibly expensive but i found a site that offers these sets really cheap. I'd go as far as to say I wouldn't go back to iving this with a conventional needle/syringe, using a butterfly with 12inch whip gives you alot more flexibility and maneuverability which means of course increased stability too.
be sure you readup on infusion techniques and iv techniques so you're familiar with how this will work, I forget exact numbers but I believe 12inches of tubing will hold about 1cc of liquid so you'll need to prepare a 3cc saline flush only syringe to clear the line prior to removal.
i used to be a venipuncture technician, if you have any questions let me know, its important that you commit to doing iv correct(which is slow infusion), or stick to doing it via im. i found out the hard way its really easy to waste alot of expensive product in the beginning by thinking you can just inject 5ml at a time into your veins. I wish i had caught on to this sooner myself.
Edited by Joe Black, 23 June 2012 - 02:30 PM.
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