2208 replies to this topic

[mattdannald]

Hi guys just bought 20x10ml bottles of cerebrolysin from Superhumangear. Took a while to get my shipment in because because Superhumangear kept submitting the wrong email address for my Paypal account,but things went pretty quick once I was able to actually pay for it. I must say they are very prompt in responding,though it was annoying that I had to keep emailing them for 3 days because they kept spelling my email address wrong. I kept wondering,how hard is it to copy and paste my email address that I am replying to you with?Maybe these guys need to try some of their own product their selling

Now that I have the shipment, I forgot to purchase syringes and needles. I know I need to use a 5cc syringe,but what guage should the needle be?

One guy on here said he uses a 25 guage needle.Is this an okay size and is 1.5" the appropriate length? Is there literature somewhere that I missed reading about by the maker of cerebrolysin that mentions a specific size to use for best efficacy?The reason I'm asking is I have next to no knowledge about injections and I dont want my $425 to go to waste.

Thanks in advance for all those who respond to this post. I've tried nearly every nootropics including Noopept and the only Noots that seem to work have horrible sides. Really hoping this one works!

[CIMN]

Thanks in advance for all those who respond to this post. I've tried nearly every nootropics including Noopept and the only Noots that seem to work have horrible sides. Really hoping this one works!

what noots did you try and what were the sides?

[Gamerzneed]

Today was my fifth injection and injecting 10ml/day. I'm guessing I'm still in the loading phase since nothing dramatic has happened yet. Sleep has been really crappy the last 5 days but that's probably because I just started school and had to switch sleeping schedules, I have problems sleeping when I have to go to sleep before 12-2am my sleep deficit could be interfering with the loading phase time. It's so annoying not knowing if it'll work or not since there are some people in this thread that have reported not feeling a strong effect from Cerebrolysin which worries me.

I'm a little doubtful, but am hoping that it'll work. I'm also hoping for the immune modulation/stimulant effect that it supposedly has according to an experiment that was summarized by Wise Young found here http://wiseyoung.wor...2009/02/10/271/. Here is one of the claims in the studies.

"In 1992, Belokrylov and Malchanova [89] reported that treatment with cerebrolysin increased the number of Thy-1 positive cells and in vivo immune responses. In 1998, Grechko [90] compared cerebrolysin with a number of other peptide immunomodulators drugs and found that cerebrolysin had greater effect on free open-field group behavior of animals than most."

I remember also reading this post

I am using cerebrolysin for a week now. This is my third cycle. I have to say it is a life changing substance for me. It really makes me change my life.


I notice last weekend a "side effect". I have got the flu/a cold, but after the injection I did not feel sick anymore. This happened also the second day. Today I feel fine again.

There needs to be more studies/acecdotes/evidence, but Cerebrolysin seems to benefit the imune system as well, if this is the case then I'm hoping it can get rid of my sinusitis that I've had for a while. I still have my doubts about it thought and encourage everyone who hasn't to post their experiences with it. I'll be updating my results in the future.

[stablemind]

Today was my fifth injection and injecting 10ml/day. I'm guessing I'm still in the loading phase since nothing dramatic has happened yet. Sleep has been really crappy the last 5 days but that's probably because I just started school and had to switch sleeping schedules, I have problems sleeping when I have to go to sleep before 12-2am my sleep deficit could be interfering with the loading phase time. It's so annoying not knowing if it'll work or not since there are some people in this thread that have reported not feeling a strong effect from Cerebrolysin which worries me.

I'm a little doubtful, but am hoping that it'll work. I'm also hoping for the immune modulation/stimulant effect that it supposedly has according to an experiment that was summarized by Wise Young found here http://wiseyoung.wor...2009/02/10/271/. Here is one of the claims in the studies.

"In 1992, Belokrylov and Malchanova [89] reported that treatment with cerebrolysin increased the number of Thy-1 positive cells and in vivo immune responses. In 1998, Grechko [90] compared cerebrolysin with a number of other peptide immunomodulators drugs and found that cerebrolysin had greater effect on free open-field group behavior of animals than most."

I remember also reading this post

I am using cerebrolysin for a week now. This is my third cycle. I have to say it is a life changing substance for me. It really makes me change my life.


I notice last weekend a "side effect". I have got the flu/a cold, but after the injection I did not feel sick anymore. This happened also the second day. Today I feel fine again.

There needs to be more studies/acecdotes/evidence, but Cerebrolysin seems to benefit the imune system as well, if this is the case then I'm hoping it can get rid of my sinusitis that I've had for a while. I still have my doubts about it thought and encourage everyone who hasn't to post their experiences with it. I'll be updating my results in the future.

What are you trying to "fix??

[Gamerzneed]

What are you trying to "fix??

Poor short term memory, trying to improve concentration, and I feel like I don't seem to think at all sometimes. I often forget what someone told me 5 seconds ago and what I did earlier during the day/week. So I'm using this mainly as a nootropic but since it seems like its an immune system stimulant/modulator I'm hoping it at least helps my Sinus problem which I'm thinking is some kind of infection. The immunostimulant properties of Cerebrolysin is probably only speculation for now as not enough studies have been done for it to specifically know how much it helps.

[stablemind]

lol welcome to my life. My short term memory is still jacked although I've corrected my mood problem mostly. I'm interested in trying Celeb. once I can get a hold of it. Are you sure you used a good source?

[CIMN]

hey guys How comfortable do you guys feel with the quality of your cerebrolysin, i don't want to sound like I'm fear mongering but i am concerned over the safety of trying animal derived products.. are you guys taking any protective pro cautions in regards to injecting cerebrolysin? how do you feel about any concerns regarding the products you use?

have you looked into taking anything to perhaps offset any dangers of transmitted infections? i am just saying this for discussion not to alarm anyone..

http://www.kingcount...otics/pigs.aspx

[Gamerzneed]

lol welcome to my life. My short term memory is still jacked although I've corrected my mood problem mostly. I'm interested in trying Celeb. once I can get a hold of it. Are you sure you used a good source?

ordered from Superhumangear, I'm absolutely positive it's a good source. Several people from this thread ordered from Superhumangear and have gotten results from Cerebrolysin so I know it's legit.

[mattdannald]

Thanks in advance for all those who respond to this post. I've tried nearly every nootropics including Noopept and the only Noots that seem to work have horrible sides. Really hoping this one works!

what noots did you try and what were the sides?

Ha,I actually wrote a lenghy reply,but edited it because stupid me made a username thats close to my real name-lol. Even though I only buy legal supplements easily purchased off the net, I'm appplying to a company that does a very thorough background check including checking Google which would list my username on this forum, Don't want them to think I'm some unstable person when the reality is I just want to improve my mental capabilities. Short answer: the main sides is intolerable irritabilty and agitation. Piracetam ALCAR Lipoic Acid by themselves are very unimpressive,but taken together they have been the closest thing to the NZT pill for me as far as enhancing intelligence and work performance goes. I've taken Noots that make you feel like you are so much smarter,but the end result is that you feel much smarter than you really are.Not on that combo,all I can say is work performance spreadsheets don't lie especially when you're competing against 20 other people at a temp job your completely unfamiliar with and you go from below midline performance straight to the top!

I'm hoping Cerebrolysin can help me reach Nootropic effect of an ALA ALCAR PIracetam combo without the overwhelimng agitation,irritability and anxiety which leads to depression. I had to stop that combo as work performance be damned, I just couldn't take the sides anymore.

[Bentonite]

To the good responders: how much of the CBL improvs still with you right now?

[stablemind]

Those of you on Celeb- do you guys feel that the improvement is consistent throughout the day, or does it wear off at the end of the day? The problem with most supplements I take is that they tend to wear off at the end of the day and I'm left feeling worn out.

[protoject]

hey guys How comfortable do you guys feel with the quality of your cerebrolysin, i don't want to sound like I'm fear mongering but i am concerned over the safety of trying animal derived products.. are you guys taking any protective pro cautions in regards to injecting cerebrolysin? how do you feel about any concerns regarding the products you use?

have you looked into taking anything to perhaps offset any dangers of transmitted infections? i am just saying this for discussion not to alarm anyone..

http://www.kingcount...otics/pigs.aspx

Please view this quote by Trevyn on this forum in the same thread. See below.... also there is more on Page 4 of this thread...

---------------------------------------
Ok, re prions:

1) "No reports exist of naturally occurring [transmissible spongiform encephalopathies] in pigs. However, the experimental inoculation of pigs and transgenic mice overexpressing porcine PrP has indicated that swine are susceptible to BSE infection by the parenteral route, although with a considerable transmission barrier (8,9). The oral transmission of BSE in pigs has not been demonstrated to date." http://www.cdc.gov/e...dfs/08-1218.pdf

2) The smallest known infective prion is ~20 kDa, most are roughly 22-35 kDa. http://www.pnas.org/.../15457.full.pdf

3) Cerebrolysin is enzymatically digested to fragments of 10 kDa or less. (But how complete is this digestion?) http://www.freepaten.../EP0452299.html

4) Prion diseases have a species barrier, that while not absolute, makes inter-species transmission rare: "Prion diseases are both naturally and experimentally transmissible between different mammalian species but such transmission, as judged by appearance of clinical signs, is limited by a so-called 'species barrier' (3). This barrier may be of sufficient magnitude that transmissions, even when attempted by the most efficient, intracerebral, route of inoculation with high titer tissues, are extremely infrequent or absent. In contrast, same-species transmission of prions is typically highly efficient." http://www.pnas.org/.../10248.abstract

5) There's plenty of commercially available ways to detect abnormal prions, and this is an active research area due to public concern. Given the context, I can't imagine that Ebewe doesn't test for abnormal prions. Those Chinese manufacturers above, who knows -- and for that matter, how do they produce an even remotely comparable product? This isn't one specific molecule that needs to be synthesized, it's an obscure isolate, and even the patent doesn't show a specific production method. http://www.umm.edu/n...on_diseases.htm

[manic_racetam]

Hey I am wondering if anyone would recommend 10 mL over 5 mL / d. I'm asking because originally, I figured I should take 5mL, but then after some consideration thought if 10mL gives a stronger effect and quicker, then I would rather use that. I was also paranoid that perhaps 5mL wouldn't give me any effect whereas 10mL would more surely give me an effect so that I couldn't doubt it if it were there. However on second though I've been thinking maybe I should play it moderate, not jump into things too quickly, just try the regular 5mL for a month instead, save some money, and maybe get a good effect without needing more, what do you peeps think?

When I ordered cerebrolysin I got 2 boxes of 5 x 10ml. I started with 5ml every morning and then after 2-4 days (can't remember clearly and am too lazy at the moment to look back in the thread) I was getting no effects so bumped it up to 10ml every morning (two 5ml IM injections). And the effects still didn't really start to appear until my last two days of treatment. So I ran out right before I felt any serious effects.

If I could go back in time I would have stuck with 5ml for the first 10 days and then if I wasn't getting any effects I'd bump it up to 10ml. I'd hate to see you spend a bunch of money and then start at 10ml hoping to get a stronger effect and then run out before it had a chance to start working. I feel that's what happened with me. I'll be reordering soon though since I've now finished my run of the various peptides I was injecting.

[Bentonite]

Hey I am wondering if anyone would recommend 10 mL over 5 mL / d. I'm asking because originally, I figured I should take 5mL, but then after some consideration thought if 10mL gives a stronger effect and quicker, then I would rather use that. I was also paranoid that perhaps 5mL wouldn't give me any effect whereas 10mL would more surely give me an effect so that I couldn't doubt it if it were there. However on second though I've been thinking maybe I should play it moderate, not jump into things too quickly, just try the regular 5mL for a month instead, save some money, and maybe get a good effect without needing more, what do you peeps think?

When I ordered cerebrolysin I got 2 boxes of 5 x 10ml. I started with 5ml every morning and then after 2-4 days (can't remember clearly and am too lazy at the moment to look back in the thread) I was getting no effects so bumped it up to 10ml every morning (two 5ml IM injections). And the effects still didn't really start to appear until my last two days of treatment. So I ran out right before I felt any serious effects.

If I could go back in time I would have stuck with 5ml for the first 10 days and then if I wasn't getting any effects I'd bump it up to 10ml. I'd hate to see you spend a bunch of money and then start at 10ml hoping to get a stronger effect and then run out before it had a chance to start working. I feel that's what happened with me. I'll be reordering soon though since I've now finished my run of the various peptides I was injecting.

Do you think 150 ml over 20 days wil be enough?

Hey I am wondering if anyone would recommend 10 mL over 5 mL / d. I'm asking because originally, I figured I should take 5mL, but then after some consideration thought if 10mL gives a stronger effect and quicker, then I would rather use that. I was also paranoid that perhaps 5mL wouldn't give me any effect whereas 10mL would more surely give me an effect so that I couldn't doubt it if it were there. However on second though I've been thinking maybe I should play it moderate, not jump into things too quickly, just try the regular 5mL for a month instead, save some money, and maybe get a good effect without needing more, what do you peeps think?

When I ordered cerebrolysin I got 2 boxes of 5 x 10ml. I started with 5ml every morning and then after 2-4 days (can't remember clearly and am too lazy at the moment to look back in the thread) I was getting no effects so bumped it up to 10ml every morning (two 5ml IM injections). And the effects still didn't really start to appear until my last two days of treatment. So I ran out right before I felt any serious effects.

If I could go back in time I would have stuck with 5ml for the first 10 days and then if I wasn't getting any effects I'd bump it up to 10ml. I'd hate to see you spend a bunch of money and then start at 10ml hoping to get a stronger effect and then run out before it had a chance to start working. I feel that's what happened with me. I'll be reordering soon though since I've now finished my run of the various peptides I was injecting.

Do you think 150 ml over 20 days wil be enough?

[CIMN]

hey guys How comfortable do you guys feel with the quality of your cerebrolysin, i don't want to sound like I'm fear mongering but i am concerned over the safety of trying animal derived products.. are you guys taking any protective pro cautions in regards to injecting cerebrolysin? how do you feel about any concerns regarding the products you use?

have you looked into taking anything to perhaps offset any dangers of transmitted infections? i am just saying this for discussion not to alarm anyone..

http://www.kingcount...otics/pigs.aspx

Please view this quote by Trevyn on this forum in the same thread. See below.... also there is more on Page 4 of this thread...

---------------------------------------

thanks for showing that info, well just in case on pubmed there are many results for anti-microbial/parasitic/viral/prion supplements, herbs, and treatments, so i just recommend anyone that is worried about animal transmitted diseases to look around pubmed..

[Bigbrains]

Hi guys just bought 20x10ml bottles of cerebrolysin from Superhumangear. Took a while to get my shipment in because because Superhumangear kept submitting the wrong email address for my Paypal account,but things went pretty quick once I was able to actually pay for it. I must say they are very prompt in responding,though it was annoying that I had to keep emailing them for 3 days because they kept spelling my email address wrong. I kept wondering,how hard is it to copy and paste my email address that I am replying to you with?Maybe these guys need to try some of their own product their selling

Now that I have the shipment, I forgot to purchase syringes and needles. I know I need to use a 5cc syringe,but what guage should the needle be?

One guy on here said he uses a 25 guage needle.Is this an okay size and is 1.5" the appropriate length? Is there literature somewhere that I missed reading about by the maker of cerebrolysin that mentions a specific size to use for best efficacy?The reason I'm asking is I have next to no knowledge about injections and I dont want my $425 to go to waste.

Thanks in advance for all those who respond to this post. I've tried nearly every nootropics including Noopept and the only Noots that seem to work have horrible sides. Really hoping this one works!

I Purchased some already myself., it appears from reading through this thread, a 25 guage needle that is 1.25-1.5 is fine,though I might purchase some larger one,like a 22 guage,if the 25's don't work so well since theyr'e relatively cheap. I just don't want to waste any of the Cerebrolysin Product since it doesn't come cheap.Superhumangear has a real competetive price though compared to others online!

[chairofgold]

Hi guys just bought 20x10ml bottles of cerebrolysin from Superhumangear. Took a while to get my shipment in because because Superhumangear kept submitting the wrong email address for my Paypal account,but things went pretty quick once I was able to actually pay for it. I must say they are very prompt in responding,though it was annoying that I had to keep emailing them for 3 days because they kept spelling my email address wrong. I kept wondering,how hard is it to copy and paste my email address that I am replying to you with?Maybe these guys need to try some of their own product their selling

Now that I have the shipment, I forgot to purchase syringes and needles. I know I need to use a 5cc syringe,but what guage should the needle be?

One guy on here said he uses a 25 guage needle.Is this an okay size and is 1.5" the appropriate length? Is there literature somewhere that I missed reading about by the maker of cerebrolysin that mentions a specific size to use for best efficacy?The reason I'm asking is I have next to no knowledge about injections and I dont want my $425 to go to waste.

Thanks in advance for all those who respond to this post. I've tried nearly every nootropics including Noopept and the only Noots that seem to work have horrible sides. Really hoping this one works!

You should of got the $90 for 5 x10 ml deal. It's located under antiaging. BTW I just made my first purchase through superhumangear. Paid a total of $556. $90 x 5 x 10ml for a total of 30, 10ml ampules and $16 for s/h. I thought this was a great deal. I plan on spending $1112 per year, by ordering twice a year of 6 five packs per 6 months. 2 weeks of 10ml IV with 2 days of
rest in between followed with a 6 week break.

[chairofgold]

Finished with 4 boxes so far and my brainI feels as good as new!!!

I am able to effortlessly recall things that I would not be able to do before. It's spontaneous!

I am contemplating weather I should go one more week for a total of 5 boxes and then rest for 6 weeks or not at this time.

[Bentonite]

Finished with 4 boxes so far and my brainI feels as good as new!!!

I am able to effortlessly recall things that I would not be able to do before. It's spontaneous!

I am contemplating weather I should go one more week for a total of 5 boxes and then rest for 6 weeks or not at this time.

10 ml boxes IV?

[Gamerzneed]

Finished with 4 boxes so far and my brainI feels as good as new!!!

I am able to effortlessly recall things that I would not be able to do before. It's spontaneous!

I am contemplating weather I should go one more week for a total of 5 boxes and then rest for 6 weeks or not at this time.

-How was the nootropic effect of your 1st cycle vs your next cycles?
-Are you able to better comprehend things like math problems/story problems?
-What about focus/concentration/motivation? I know you said something about depression dissapearing so am wondering how much that helped with motivation.
-Did it affect you in any other way like physical energy/coordination or anything?

[chairofgold]

Finished with 4 boxes so far and my brainI feels as good as new!!!

I am able to effortlessly recall things that I would not be able to do before. It's spontaneous!

I am contemplating weather I should go one more week for a total of 5 boxes and then rest for 6 weeks or not at this time.

-How was the nootropic effect of your 1st cycle vs your next cycles?
-Are you able to better comprehend things like math problems/story problems?
-What about focus/concentration/motivation? I know you said something about depression dissapearing so am wondering how much that helped with motivation.
-Did it affect you in any other way like physical energy/coordination or anything?

I can answer that in one statement. It works!

Better yet, I will give you an all exclusive, explicate report by the weekend.

University Term papers due!!!! Gotta run!

Edited by chairofgold, 11 September 2012 - 11:58 PM.

[bacopa]

I just ordered some cerbrolysin from anti agingsystem. I NEED help in hte injecting part, so upper buttocks, than how much do I put theneedle in? all the way, half 3/4 and you can pm me as I check those more often.
thanks! or you can write here.

[stablemind]

Finished with 4 boxes so far and my brainI feels as good as new!!!

I am able to effortlessly recall things that I would not be able to do before. It's spontaneous!

I am contemplating weather I should go one more week for a total of 5 boxes and then rest for 6 weeks or not at this time.

What are u trying to fix? What type of things? Also what about your spatial memory how is it now?

[stablemind]

Any updates from users?

[Plasticperson]

I just bought 3 x 5 10cc ampules of cerebrolysin off of superhumangear. I choose the super fast shipping so hopefully it gets here in about a week.

Im using the cerebrolysin to combat cognitive dysfunction caused by a moderate concussion from a car accident and then a second concussion 11 days after by falling over from being dizzy from the first concussion. The first concussion wasn't horrible but the second one combined to make it a lot worse. Its been 2.5 months while i am still getting better every week I'm still not a hundred percent. But, I am still in the recovery process; i postulate that i need around another month to fully recover.

Im debating of waiting a little bit longer to use the cerebrolysin. I hypothesize that if i recover from the concussion naturally and then regain the usage of the parts of my brain that still exhibit residual swelling, the cerebrolysin will be that final boost to push me back to my old self. on a side note, its kinda eerie i can feel it when another part of my brain is turned on again; it usually happens after exercise(low impact of course). One day my head started making all different types of clicks and then all of the sudden i was able to discover paradoxes again. Another day i felt the clicks and regained my extensive vocabulary. I think the click stem form new neuronal connections being form but who know all i know is that i have them all the time, and i started getting better when the clicks came.

Lastly I'm also debating on running a every other day one month cycle or a 3 week 2 days on one day off cycle. Any suggestions?

[Gorthaur]

I just finished my cycle of 10ml a day, 5 days a week for 4 weeks. I was very disappointed with the effects. I did not experience any substantial nootropic or antidepressant effects. I am unsure if my focus is improved, but my productivity has actually been going downhill (which is probably unrelated). My memory may be somewhat enhanced, but the effect doesn't come close to what I've experienced with piracetam and CDP-choline. Cerebrolysin did not make piracetam or any other nootropics work better, nor did it reduce my tolerance. Overall, I'm not sure if Cbl had any effect on me at all. This thread made me think it worked for pretty much everyone, so my results have been very surprising.

Given the cost of Cerebrolysin and injection supplies ($410 for me), the difficulty of administration, and the lack of a pronounced effect, I will not be using Cbl again.

I did learn quite a bit about IM injections, at least.
For IM injections, I highly recommend avoiding the glutes entirely (you risk damage to the sciatic nerve and dorsogluteal artery, plus you are much more likely to inject into fatty tissue, plus it's a really awkward angle). Instead, I recommend the vastus lateralis and rectus femoris. Each can be divided up into three injection sites about two inches apart, centered on the middle of the thigh. I find it works well to stretch the skin and pierce the skin quickly with a dart-like motion, but then to slowly insert the needle the rest of the way. You need to be able to feel when the needle is in the muscle and stop at the right depth - usually about 1.25". Sometimes it's difficult to pierce the connective tissue surrounding the muscle, and if you're on the edge of the muscle, you also risk going through it entirely (hence the need to stop at the right depth). Wait at least a week before injecting in the same site. With good technique (including pressing the plunger slowly - 1 minute for 5 ml), the site will be sore for a few hours, but the next day it'll feel fine.

[Plasticperson]

Gorarthur did you ever try a iv injection? and did you feel no effect at all or were the effects disappointing. Also where did you order from?

[Gorthaur]

Gorarthur did you ever try a iv injection? and did you feel no effect at all or were the effects disappointing. Also where did you order from?

I did not try an iv injection, as I don't have the training, and my understanding is that it wouldn't be any more or less effective. I'm not sure if I felt any effect at all, as day-to-day differences in sleep, diet, other nootropics (which I didn't add in for two weeks), etc. were much more noticeable. I certainly didn't experience anything remotely resembling a "best day of my life" type experience for a couple weeks like some other users have described. I ordered from Superhumangear.

[Izan]

@ gorthaur. 200 ml of cerebrolysin and no effects whatsoever? you had 100 % FAKE cerebrolysin. cerebrolysin is the most powerful nootropic available, bar none. i urge everybody not to order from superhumangear until they can clear things out.

[Plasticperson]

@izan not saying that superhumangear is completely legitimate. However many people on this forum have ordered from and used their product with succes. goarthurs is the first I've heard of that had neutral results.

Given that goarthur was inherently adminastering injections appropriately, I speculate that goarthurs brain didn't have any damage and was pretty much working at a optimal level, or his vials were some how damaged by heat or some other way prior to him receiving them.

I just ordered from super human gear, I'll be able to give everyone here a review of their product. I also choose the 65 dollar 3-4 day shipping it won't be too long I'm hopn