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[Izan]

@izan not saying that superhumangear is completely legitimate. However many people on this forum have ordered from and used their product with succes. goarthurs is the first I've heard of that had neutral results.

Given that goarthur was inherently adminastering injections appropriately, I speculate that goarthurs brain didn't have any damage and was pretty much working at a optimal level, or his vials were some how damaged by heat or some other way prior to him receiving them.

I just ordered from super human gear, I'll be able to give everyone here a review of their product. I also choose the 65 dollar 3-4 day shipping it won't be too long I'm hopn

good luck. i will be ordering directly from austria, because i have a prescription. it took me ages to get it tough.

[chairofgold]

I just finished my cycle of 10ml a day, 5 days a week for 4 weeks. I was very disappointed with the effects. I did not experience any substantial nootropic or antidepressant effects. I am unsure if my focus is improved, but my productivity has actually been going downhill (which is probably unrelated). My memory may be somewhat enhanced, but the effect doesn't come close to what I've experienced with piracetam and CDP-choline. Cerebrolysin did not make piracetam or any other nootropics work better, nor did it reduce my tolerance. Overall, I'm not sure if Cbl had any effect on me at all. This thread made me think it worked for pretty much everyone, so my results have been very surprising.

Given the cost of Cerebrolysin and injection supplies ($410 for me), the difficulty of administration, and the lack of a pronounced effect, I will not be using Cbl again.

I did learn quite a bit about IM injections, at least.
For IM injections, I highly recommend avoiding the glutes entirely (you risk damage to the sciatic nerve and dorsogluteal artery, plus you are much more likely to inject into fatty tissue, plus it's a really awkward angle). Instead, I recommend the vastus lateralis and rectus femoris. Each can be divided up into three injection sites about two inches apart, centered on the middle of the thigh. I find it works well to stretch the skin and pierce the skin quickly with a dart-like motion, but then to slowly insert the needle the rest of the way. You need to be able to feel when the needle is in the muscle and stop at the right depth - usually about 1.25". Sometimes it's difficult to pierce the connective tissue surrounding the muscle, and if you're on the edge of the muscle, you also risk going through it entirely (hence the need to stop at the right depth). Wait at least a week before injecting in the same site. With good technique (including pressing the plunger slowly - 1 minute for 5 ml), the site will be sore for a few hours, but the next day it'll feel fine.

Sorry for your experience but Cbl will not work as fast as want it too. Give it another month and repost how you feel cognitively from 30 days after you stopped taking Cbl.

[Bentonite]

@izan not saying that superhumangear is completely legitimate. However many people on this forum have ordered from and used their product with succes. goarthurs is the first I've heard of that had neutral results.

Given that goarthur was inherently adminastering injections appropriately, I speculate that goarthurs brain didn't have any damage and was pretty much working at a optimal level, or his vials were some how damaged by heat or some other way prior to him receiving them.

I just ordered from super human gear, I'll be able to give everyone here a review of their product. I also choose the 65 dollar 3-4 day shipping it won't be too long I'm hopn

good luck. i will be ordering directly from austria, because i have a prescription. it took me ages to get it tough.

How do you order from Austria? I've tried to get in touch with some pharm there, but no one respond....

Bad news from the last user... I've tried CBL 5 ml for 10 days and felt nothing, but I was hoping that a whole month could be the solution... The next try will be the last chance for me... Last time ordered from DrugsPro and I also thought that there was probabilities of a counterfeit... but now I think that there is the possibility of simply non responders... The only othe noot I've tried is Piracetam and I felt nothing also at mega doses...

[Plasticperson]

Im thinking the people who respond to Cerebrolysin are people who regularly exercise their brain be it through solving problems/learning or exersize(increase in ngf, bdgf, etc). Who here responded to cerebrolysin and exercised everyday physically and mentally?

Ive read of people on this forum who have said that Cerebrolysin benefited them the most under stress..

Edited by Plasticperson, 18 September 2012 - 05:36 PM.

[protoject]

Go forth, my guinea pig minions, and prevent me from wasting 400 + dollars before it's too late. [I am waiting for someone to click the dislike button lol]...

[Bentonite]

Im thinking the people who respond to Cerebrolysin are people who regularly exercise their brain be it through solving problems/learning or exersize(increase in ngf, bdgf, etc). Who here responded to cerebrolysin and exercised everyday physically and mentally?

Ive read of people on this forum who have said that Cerebrolysin benefited them the most under stress..

Oh dear, my life is and was stress full... ahahaha. So this isn't the reason.

[Izan]

this is no crap substance like piracetam or aniracetam, this is the most powerful nootropic available on earth. over 95 % of the people experience significant results, 5 % of the people experience some sort of improvement. your cerebrolysin is fake.

[stablemind]

Gorarthur did you ever try a iv injection? and did you feel no effect at all or were the effects disappointing. Also where did you order from?

I did not try an iv injection, as I don't have the training, and my understanding is that it wouldn't be any more or less effective. I'm not sure if I felt any effect at all, as day-to-day differences in sleep, diet, other nootropics (which I didn't add in for two weeks), etc. were much more noticeable. I certainly didn't experience anything remotely resembling a "best day of my life" type experience for a couple weeks like some other users have described. I ordered from Superhumangear.

What are you trying to fix? Do you have any psychiatric conditions or mental imbalances ?

[protoject]

I'm now becoming incredibly worried that superhumangear has bunk stuff. I'm really looking to purchase soon but this is a bit unsettling. I am really hoping this user of cerebrolysin who doesn't get any effect from it is just a non-responder or will get good effects a month from now.

[Gorthaur]

I just ordered some cerebrolysin from superhuman gear. Any reports on efficacy/quality of their product?

i ordered from there a few months ago and about to again today, everything came in about 3 1/2 weeks from budapest, hungary. next time i will order using ems. ems for most orders is $60, I asked personally via email.

i don't have anything to compare it to, but i'm also no idiot either. after about day 5 i was feeling a pleasent "more with it sensation", this got much better until day 7-8, i definately felt a reasonable sense of cognitive enhancement within 10mins or so of iming. i don't know how to describe the feeling but its like being washed clean and new from the inside, I think others will agree with this statement having done a course. To truly understand though you must of course do it.

I can't wait to begin again soon, it was a seriously great medication. $90 a box for 5x10ml vials. Brand Ever Neuro Pharma.

Next order will be soon, and via ems, I will report delivery times to pacific coast via ems once received.

Hope this is useful

I bought from Superhumangear based on posts like this. I think this is a pretty good indication that Superhumangear sells legitimate Cerebrolysin. If it was fake, it was an exceptional fake, as the packaging perfectly matched the pictures from earlier in the thread, and even the strange "fish sauce" smell and taste of the liquid itself was there. I can't imagine there would be enough of a market to make money off fake Cbl. Counterfeit Cbl was discussed on page 17 of this thread, and the consensus seemed to be that fake Cbl has never existed. I am not ruling out the possibility that my order was damaged by heat.

[Gorthaur]

Gorarthur did you ever try a iv injection? and did you feel no effect at all or were the effects disappointing. Also where did you order from?

I did not try an iv injection, as I don't have the training, and my understanding is that it wouldn't be any more or less effective. I'm not sure if I felt any effect at all, as day-to-day differences in sleep, diet, other nootropics (which I didn't add in for two weeks), etc. were much more noticeable. I certainly didn't experience anything remotely resembling a "best day of my life" type experience for a couple weeks like some other users have described. I ordered from Superhumangear.

What are you trying to fix? Do you have any psychiatric conditions or mental imbalances ?

(I posted this at the start of my cycle)
My reasons for using Cerebrolysin are as follows:
-as a general nootropic - to enhance memory, intuition, visuospatial skills, etc.
-as a long-lasting antidepressant
-to reset my brain chemistry to an ideal state, unmodified by SSRIs and past soft drug use
-to repair the damage caused by three minor concussions I had many years ago
-to prevent chronic migraines (an off-label use, but another poster mentioned this, and I am hopeful cbl will help)

I am a fairly healthy and functional person without nootropics, my main neurological problem being my chronic migraines. I also have a history of mild depression. I am certainly a far cry from the aging Alzheimer's patients who have benefited most from Cbl. It's possible I overestimated my own deficits, and there was very little to fix in my brain.

[Joe Black]

not to play devils advocate but i've administered 5 cycles of cere in the vemtrogluteal gluetal area, its a very small area to hit right but once you get the hang of it there is nothing better. You can barely feel a thing, for the record I use 23guage Becton Dickson IM Needles(specially for im) and 2 5ml becton dickson syringes, I usually use 3 needles, one to raw, and two to poke.

bonuses to hitting this area, no pain to speak of, on arteries or veins or nerves or anything important, you dont have to aspirate cuz its unnecessary, you enter muscle at about the first cm or two(very deep muscle so you're guranteed delivery), I've never even had to hold down the site afterwards and i always hold down the site anywhere else. and no pain afterwards at all not in 10 minutes, not all day..no pain afterwards whatsoever.

I speak from rotating various locations around this area for 3 months straight twice almost every day. if you want to feel pain, hit your dorsalgluteals or your deltoids, that shit made me sore sore once i oculdnt fuck for you two days, barely sit. Once I hit an artery in my dorsalgluteal and almost passed out. I'm licensed in phlebotomy but to be honest you cant see very well where you're sticking it in back there especiallly with a bad back, plus its usually going in at a weird angle and its hard to keep your head steady.

oh and dorsalgluteal you risk a large chance of hitting a fat patch of fat and not even geting musicle. that sure sucks.



I trace my hand on paper and cut it out, then use sharpie to trace the peace sign while my palm is on my greater trochantor.

If you want a little more evidence that this iplace is the bees knees for IM injection visit http://www.impactednurse.com/?p=2250

just a tip, some skin there is sensitive on the surface, but theonly nerves are in the skin, so light prick a few places around the area to make sure you get the right spot first, when you lighty poke and dont feel anything you hit the moneyshot and go for it.

Administer 1ml ever 20seconds if you can. also wait about 30seconds before removing it, also i make sure there is a bit of air in there so it raises to the top. that tiny amount of air won't hurt you, I am a professional. you just dont lose as much cere in the needle assembly. :

Happy cereing...and if anyone doesnt feel it they'r either not doing it ritght, or th ey're fine to begin with :D im pretty sure heat wont effect it at all, i get mine rom superhumangear everytime and its quality. he even wraps each box in bubble wrap and puts it in a hard box for me. In case you havn't met hungarians they are very legit loving people, they wouldnt rip you off. Tell him Joe Black from California sent you and im sure he'll see that you're taken care of. Where else can you get CERE from budapest in less than 5 days to California? exactly.

Just a warning though his hanwriting is a little weird, his 4's look like 9s so if you have a 4 make sure to stress that he write it very carefully i'e had two postmen warm me of this when they delivered it. :D

I just finished my cycle of 10ml a day, 5 days a week for 4 weeks. I was very disappointed with the effects. I did not experience any substantial nootropic or antidepressant effects. I am unsure if my focus is improved, but my productivity has actually been going downhill (which is probably unrelated). My memory may be somewhat enhanced, but the effect doesn't come close to what I've experienced with piracetam and CDP-choline. Cerebrolysin did not make piracetam or any other nootropics work better, nor did it reduce my tolerance. Overall, I'm not sure if Cbl had any effect on me at all. This thread made me think it worked for pretty much everyone, so my results have been very surprising.

Given the cost of Cerebrolysin and injection supplies ($410 for me), the difficulty of administration, and the lack of a pronounced effect, I will not be using Cbl again.

I did learn quite a bit about IM injections, at least.
For IM injections, I highly recommend avoiding the glutes entirely (you risk damage to the sciatic nerve and dorsogluteal artery, plus you are much more likely to inject into fatty tissue, plus it's a really awkward angle). Instead, I recommend the vastus lateralis and rectus femoris. Each can be divided up into three injection sites about two inches apart, centered on the middle of the thigh. I find it works well to stretch the skin and pierce the skin quickly with a dart-like motion, but then to slowly insert the needle the rest of the way. You need to be able to feel when the needle is in the muscle and stop at the right depth - usually about 1.25". Sometimes it's difficult to pierce the connective tissue surrounding the muscle, and if you're on the edge of the muscle, you also risk going through it entirely (hence the need to stop at the right depth). Wait at least a week before injecting in the same site. With good technique (including pressing the plunger slowly - 1 minute for 5 ml), the site will be sore for a few hours, but the next day it'll feel fine.

Sorry for your experience but Cbl will not work as fast as want it too. Give it another month and repost how you feel cognitively from 30 days after you stopped taking Cbl.

[Joe Black]

I just ordered some cerebrolysin from superhuman gear. Any reports on efficacy/quality of their product?

i ordered from there a few months ago and about to again today, everything came in about 3 1/2 weeks from budapest, hungary. next time i will order using ems. ems for most orders is $60, I asked personally via email.

i don't have anything to compare it to, but i'm also no idiot either. after about day 5 i was feeling a pleasent "more with it sensation", this got much better until day 7-8, i definately felt a reasonable sense of cognitive enhancement within 10mins or so of iming. i don't know how to describe the feeling but its like being washed clean and new from the inside, I think others will agree with this statement having done a course. To truly understand though you must of course do it.

I can't wait to begin again soon, it was a seriously great medication. $90 a box for 5x10ml vials. Brand Ever Neuro Pharma.

Next order will be soon, and via ems, I will report delivery times to pacific coast via ems once received.

Hope this is useful

I bought from Superhumangear based on posts like this. I think this is a pretty good indication that Superhumangear sells legitimate Cerebrolysin. If it was fake, it was an exceptional fake, as the packaging perfectly matched the pictures from earlier in the thread, and even the strange "fish sauce" smell and taste of the liquid itself was there. I can't imagine there would be enough of a market to make money off fake Cbl. Counterfeit Cbl was discussed on page 17 of this thread, and the consensus seemed to be that fake Cbl has never existed. I am not ruling out the possibility that my order was damaged by heat.

definately not fake but i got alot of problems so its easier to tell the difference, ido you not feel the weird sensation that feels almost as though your giving you brain a shower?, its a very clean feeling overall and my memory has improved immensely.

[Joe Black]

Gorarthur did you ever try a iv injection? and did you feel no effect at all or were the effects disappointing. Also where did you order from?

I did not try an iv injection, as I don't have the training, and my understanding is that it wouldn't be any more or less effective. I'm not sure if I felt any effect at all, as day-to-day differences in sleep, diet, other nootropics (which I didn't add in for two weeks), etc. were much more noticeable. I certainly didn't experience anything remotely resembling a "best day of my life" type experience for a couple weeks like some other users have described. I ordered from Superhumangear.

What are you trying to fix? Do you have any psychiatric conditions or mental imbalances ?

(I posted this at the start of my cycle)
My reasons for using Cerebrolysin are as follows:
-as a general nootropic - to enhance memory, intuition, visuospatial skills, etc.
-as a long-lasting antidepressant
-to reset my brain chemistry to an ideal state, unmodified by SSRIs and past soft drug use
-to repair the damage caused by three minor concussions I had many years ago
-to prevent chronic migraines (an off-label use, but another poster mentioned this, and I am hopeful cbl will help)

I am a fairly healthy and functional person without nootropics, my main neurological problem being my chronic migraines. I also have a history of mild depression. I am certainly a far cry from the aging Alzheimer's patients who have benefited most from Cbl. It's possible I overestimated my own deficits, and there was very little to fix in my brain.

works great as a anti depressent you feel top of the ball on this. also good for my hard drug use, maybe it was because yours was soft....you can be honest if it was more than soft tho, were all friends here :D

also to be blunt almost all mild depression has to do with the way you're living your life, its your bodys way of telling you to change something for the better. The best anti depressent is good exercise, join a tai chi class, learn a martial art, learn to speed read, take up drawing, read books, play a sport, volunteer. those are bound to get rid of mild depression....because it usually comes from being bored and unmotivated...you gotta get on a regular schedule and get some sunshine and socialize and at the end of the day feel proud that you did something to better yourself and/or others.

Minor conussions, I' can't be there but i woldnt worry about unless you were to the point where you werent allowed to fall asleep.

btw althzheiimers and adhd run in y famly and i get a huge benefit from CERE, so maybe you are overdestimating your own defecits.

Eat Right
Take Fish Oil
Take a MultiMineral
Eat Cashews(natural anti depressent)
Eat Bananas
Avoid melatonin and dont take it more than 18 times a year. I have the benefit of one of the best psychs in the 10tth floor of downtown san franisco. graduate from brown school of medicine and charges $500 intial consultation.

and thats straight from his mouth and he had some very enlightening things to say, i was honest with my past drug use with him and he still gave me the goods, i also found out he practiced qi gong, meditation, and studied sacred geometry.(did i mention i love san francisco?) hehe.

btw when he does your assessment he asks you to bring in all the vitamins you take, even protein shakes, because they can lessen the effects of your meds, first psychiatrist to actually do that, and it made me smile. H'll also order a electrolyte panel on you. He also screens you for OCD because its often the undiagnosed problem that prevents the problem you think you have from getting any better. :D I didn't have it, but ii know so many people who are ocd in denial it makes alot of sense.

Good Luck My best reccomendaton is what i listed above, and some aniracetam mixed ina protein shake with whole milk, make sure the protein shake has l-glutamine in it. for a choline donor take the occasional CDP choline until you can feel what's the right amount for you..

and as far as pharms, get a script to nuvigil, its amazing stuff if you can get it, you can thank me by giving me that CERE that doesnt work for you ahahahah

just playing, but not really :D

[Gorthaur]

Joe Black -
Thanks for your input and your recommendations about depression. I read your earlier posts about the ventrogluteal area, and it seemed like a good idea, except for the difficulty of finding it, so I never ended up using it. I was specifically recommending people avoid the dorsogluteal area.

I never did experience anything like giving my brain a shower. The only sensations I've gotten from my brain are a variety of headaches, which is normal for me.

[protoject]

I bought from Superhumangear based on posts like this. I think this is a pretty good indication that Superhumangear sells legitimate Cerebrolysin. If it was fake, it was an exceptional fake, as the packaging perfectly matched the pictures from earlier in the thread, and even the strange "fish sauce" smell and taste of the liquid itself was there. I can't imagine there would be enough of a market to make money off fake Cbl. Counterfeit Cbl was discussed on page 17 of this thread, and the consensus seemed to be that fake Cbl has never existed. I am not ruling out the possibility that my order was damaged by heat.

I know, I'm just being paranoid because I just purchased it, but I do hope heat degradation is not a problem as I did just spend 400$. It is getting cold around here though.

[protoject]

.. Supplies can be bought at Allegro's Medical dot com...
Overall:
.

I've heard this recommendation more than once, however upon filling the order, it could not be completed as I live in Canada. At this rate I will probably just go to the local drug store, but I am wondering if anyone knows of Allegro sister sites or sites geared towards certain countries. I couldn't find a good Canadian one, but found some ones in Australia that could sell to Canada for big shipping prices

[bacopa]

I'm nervous about the injection and the prion worries. Any research validating that it's completely safe, and is it hard injecting oneself? I have had im injections before but I worry I'll not push the needle in far enough or too far anyway to guage this?

I have brain injury hypoxia and other so this would be suitiable for me. thanks@

please pm me if you want

Devon

Edited by bacopa, 21 September 2012 - 03:12 AM.

[bacopa]

also could someone post where they bought the needle and how long? how does one get the medicine into the syringe do you buy vials? I didn't see vilas for sale online, anyone help me here? thanks!

Devon

Edited by bacopa, 21 September 2012 - 07:12 AM.

[hooter]

I'm wondering if anyone here notices lasting benefits from Cerebrolysin. I've read a few posts where a person says they only get the effect while they are actually on the 'drug'. But I am hoping that after a 4 week , daily dosing during the weekdays and taking off the weekends, at 5 or 10 mL per day, that you guys will see long-lasting benefits. In the rat studies the benefits were seen for 24 weeks afterwards, if I'm remembering correctly...

I'd say there are clear benefits for a few months, but after a year I fell back into depression. (I've had 10x 10ml IV of EBEWE Cerebrolysin)

I wish I had more money so I could get multiple courses a year... It's such a beautiful feeling.. sigh.

[stablemind]

I'm wondering if anyone here notices lasting benefits from Cerebrolysin. I've read a few posts where a person says they only get the effect while they are actually on the 'drug'. But I am hoping that after a 4 week , daily dosing during the weekdays and taking off the weekends, at 5 or 10 mL per day, that you guys will see long-lasting benefits. In the rat studies the benefits were seen for 24 weeks afterwards, if I'm remembering correctly...

I'd say there are clear benefits for a few months, but after a year I fell back into depression. (I've had 10x 10ml IV of EBEWE Cerebrolysin)

I wish I had more money so I could get multiple courses a year... It's such a beautiful feeling.. sigh.

A year is a really long time for a drug. Each time you did shots were the effects cumulative? How was your cognition?

[protoject]

I'm wondering if anyone here notices lasting benefits from Cerebrolysin. I've read a few posts where a person says they only get the effect while they are actually on the 'drug'. But I am hoping that after a 4 week , daily dosing during the weekdays and taking off the weekends, at 5 or 10 mL per day, that you guys will see long-lasting benefits. In the rat studies the benefits were seen for 24 weeks afterwards, if I'm remembering correctly...

I'd say there are clear benefits for a few months, but after a year I fell back into depression. (I've had 10x 10ml IV of EBEWE Cerebrolysin)

I wish I had more money so I could get multiple courses a year... It's such a beautiful feeling.. sigh.

A year is a really long time for a drug. Each time you did shots were the effects cumulative? How was your cognition?

Yeah I mean in this case I wouldn't have a single problem shelling out money, I think being undepressed is far more important than most things currently in my life. luckily I don't have a lot of financial obligations, for example i don't own property or have vehicles that im paying off nor taking care of kids or paying for school or debts.. Honesty I don't have a lot of FINANCES either... but ill tell you that being depressed doesn't help finances at all, and I'm sure if i were less depressed I would be more successful at my job for sure, and hence making more money there since it's sales-related. So, has anyone here found themselves in a more successful state due to using this medicine? I have seen posts already from very successful individuals but I want to hear more. Also it would be great to hear from someone who is actually treating themselves for a problem which is causing destruction in his or her life, so we can see how the repair brought by cerebrolysin might have actually helped someone be more successful.

[Gamerzneed]

End of week 3 on my Cerebrolysin course
During the last couple of days I started to get this head rush after injection as well as a clean stress free feeling, it was like a burden off my shoulders was lifted or something, it's a really refreshing feeling. I can really tell what one other poster felt when they said they could handle stress alot easier at work. No noticable nootropic effect yet but I'm glad I'm finally getting at least any kind of effect.

If this matters at all, I switched my injection schedule to 5ml x5days x whatever amount of weeks I got left of it.

Edited by Gamerzneed, 21 September 2012 - 10:18 PM.

[Bigbrains]

Hey fellas, just tried my first dose of cerebrolysin Thursday night just to see how things work.Going to retry Sunday. I received my shipment last Saturday,but I couldn't get myself to start until this last Thrsday because I kept worrying that I wouldn't hit the Ventrogluteal area with the needle and I my cerebrolysin trials would be a waste. Thank you Joe Black for the diagrams and helpful information,very appreciated! I made a trace cutout of my hand as you suggested which made things a lot easier,but I steal had a hard time even with the diagram making sure my injection was accurate.

I think I got the injection correct after a few hours researching,but what concerned me was reading from med forums onlne about not injecting more than 3cc at one site because of a risk of abcess from having too much fluid enter at one site. Had me worried for a while because I'm injecting 10cc split into 5cc into two areas,. It did make me feel better watching a video of a guy on youtube injecting 10cc at once into his leg.Yikes! His video was very helpful though, as it showed how to break off the ampule,and got me to purchase 2 different needles.A large 20 guage 1.5" filtered needle for drawing the fluid out and a 23 guage 1.5" unfiltered for injetcion.

One thing I'd like to point out is that you guys should purchase filtered needles which aren't that expensive, and will keep the glass out of your cerebrolysin. I've looked at a number of med forums where actual licensed professionals respond, and there is almost a universal concesus as to get filters for neeedles when drawing from a glass ampoule. Its just the meatheads from the steroid forums that inject substances proven to be harmful to the body that seem to condone not using a filter. " Trust me Bro,i've stuck thousands of needles in my body without a filter when drawing from a glass vial. No worries here brah" Yeah....okay.

Anyways, I had a hard time getting the last 5 ml out because the needle to draw wasn't long enough and spilled about 1 cc,but eventually the process was successful. After my second injection I felt a little flushed,like a heat wave go through me and a strong sense of nausea which could have been from my fear of sticking an inch and a half needle in both my thighs.

I also take 5 mg of adderral ir a day split into 2 doses of 2.5 mg and noticed a totally different efect of the medication after the second dose while on cerebro.I'm usually very irritable,and moody yet very foucsed by the time the second dose rolls around. First time I have ever felt focused yet very happy and relaxed after I completed my adderral dosing for the day. Usually, by the time the second dose hits, everyone at work avoids me because I look like an angry monster,but this time everyone seemed to want to be very sociable around me. I suffer from mild social anxiety and usually the adderrall makes things worse,but in combo they seem to compliment each other pretty well.

I was hoping to get off of adderrall after using cerebrolysin because of the side effects,but I may find out they compliment each other.Who knows, I stil got 19 more days of injecting cerebrolysin to find out!

Edited by Bigbrains, 22 September 2012 - 06:21 PM.

[chairofgold]

Hi all, just wanted to mention that I am scoring better in college and this may be attributed to Cbl. Whether physically or psychologically, I am getting better grade scores . Mood is stable at this point with little to no depression. Overall I have completed 5 weeks worth of Cbl or 250ml's. I will wait 3 weeks from this date on before cycling for a week and so on. In other words, my plan at this point is 1 week on Cbl followed by 3 weeks off, or 1 week of Cbl per month or 12 one week cycles per year. The cost of this is $1120 per year, from Superhumangear.

[Heh]

Hi all, just wanted to mention that I am scoring better in college and this may be attributed to Cbl. Whether physically or psychologically, I am getting better grade scores . Mood is stable at this point with little to no depression. Overall I have completed 5 weeks worth of Cbl or 250ml's. I will wait 3 weeks from this date on before cycling for a week and so on. In other words, my plan at this point is 1 week on Cbl followed by 3 weeks off, or 1 week of Cbl per month or 12 one week cycles per year. The cost of this is $1120 per year, from Superhumangear.

4 weeks on, 4-12 weeks off.. you need to give it time to build.

[Bigbrains]

Damn,false alarm as far as the benefits I thought I was getting from Cerebro.I've only tried one set of injections of cererbrolysin so far and I am going to have to start this sunday when I have the itme to do it because I'm a major procrastinator lol. Before the Cerebrolysin injections I've only been on 5 mg adderrall, 400mg Sam-e,1 pill each f valerian root and gaba which have a very mild effect on counteracting the agitation from my adderrall pill. But a couple days before the Cerebrolysin injection, I added Dmg or Dimethylglycine hoping it would give me more energy.Never heard of this supplement before it came up on the results for Sam-e on the Swanson's website . Dmg,doesn't seem to give me more energy,but its making me quite relaxed without a whole lot of drowsiness. Its also effecting my eyesight ans sense of smell.Colors are very crisp and vibrant on this stuff.My sense of smell is also extremely strong,didn't realize I had such a bad odor lol.The only substance that made colors so vibrant was Siberian ginseng,but it had no effect on smell and tended to make me axious.Really weird,wasn't expecting to get those effects

Glad I procrastinated on Cerebrolysin,I would have automatically attributed the effects to it,especially when Dmg comes in the size of an extremely small pill.I'm wondering if some upplement junkies on here might do the same and misattribute effects from another supplement they tried.

Edited by Bigbrains, 27 September 2012 - 12:36 AM.

[protoject]

Damn,false alarm

sir I think the best choice would be consistency, i.e. continue your regular amphetamine dosing as per usual, don't add other supplements in, and continue cerebrolysin for the perscribed time period. Patience! and, I know it's off topic but if you're looking to take the edge off amph. Magnesium and Zinc might do you well, magnesium sulfate in the bath for 15 mins preferrably.

[Bigbrains]

Damn,false alarm

sir I think the best choice would be consistency, i.e. continue your regular amphetamine dosing as per usual, don't add other supplements in, and continue cerebrolysin for the perscribed time period. Patience! and, I know it's off topic but if you're looking to take the edge off amph. Magnesium and Zinc might do you well, magnesium sulfate in the bath for 15 mins preferrably.

Yeah, I agree I'm a little impatient with going crazy on supplements.I occsionally take Vitamin water which has magnesium and zinc in it so i might try that, and just the adderral,also the sam-e which I know its effects quite well and the small dose of valerian. Going to leave out the Dmg,which seems to be making me feel listless and depressed all of the sudden. I'll start this Sunday,and unless I notice any strange or very positive effects right away,I'll comment on the following Friday after I've done a full set of injections for 5 days straight.

Just wish the whole process was easier.If this was in pill form I probably wold be through half my shipment.I'm also pretty squeemish of needles,but the possibility of great mental improvement helps me easily push past that fear.

Cheers,

Bigbrains

[evo]

One thing I'd like to point out is that you guys should purchase filtered needles which aren't that expensive, and will keep the glass out of your cerebrolysin. I've looked at a number of med forums where actual licensed professionals respond, and there is almost a universal concesus as to get filters for neeedles when drawing from a glass ampoule. Its just the meatheads from the steroid forums that inject substances proven to be harmful to the body that seem to condone not using a filter. " Trust me Bro,i've stuck thousands of needles in my body without a filter when drawing from a glass vial. No worries here brah" Yeah....okay.

I wish people would stop saying this.

A filter makes 0 difference--the only thing that has any effect on particulate contamination is the diameter of the ampoule.

Data' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://www.anesthesia-analgesia.org/content/65/12/1361.full.pdf']Data are summarized in Table 2. The mean number of glass particles filtered when aspirated through a 3-mm internal diameter bore tubing was 12, through an 18-gauge needle 12 k 6, through a 25- gauge needle 14 + 6 and through a 5-micron filter needle 13 7. No differences in sizes were noted. There was no significant difference in the number of particles aspirated by any given technique.

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' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/jps.3030361002/abstract']This report on the effects of glass particles when injected into animals indicates that massive doses are required to produce damage to the organs examined during the study.

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