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[troubleis]

fuckin Board keeps kicking me out !!! is anyone else getting this ???

What browser are you using?
Maybe this has something to do with it.

Using google chrome and my iphone ... Getting kicked EVERYDAY. The admins are not able to tell me whAts going on.

Im no IT expert, but accessing your profile, and the threads your subscribing to, from different browsers on different devices may have something to do with it.

Try using the same browser on both desktop and phone and see what happens.

[Mr Matsubayashi]

Second week results based on a scale of -1 to 1, in 1/5 increments. 0 = no change.

Alcohol Sensitivity: Not tested
Alcohol Hangover Severity: Not tested
Caffeine Sensitivity: Not Tested
Other drug Sensitivities: Not Tested
Anti-Anxiety: 3/5
Anti-Stress: 2/5
Anti-Depressant: 3/5
Social Ability: 4/5
Speech: 2/5
Concentration: 1/5
Motivation: 0
Happiness: 2/5
Clarity: 2/5
Mental Energy: 4/5
Physical Energy: Not tested
Cognitive Benefit: 2/5
Memory Benefit: 2/5

Long Term Positive Effects: N/A
Drug Potency: 3/5
Time to Effect: N/A

Other possible effects:
Emotional Sensitivity: Not Noticed
Tolerance: Not Noticed
Vision: Not Noticed
Hearing: Not Noticed
Smell: Not Noticed
Libido: Libido is the same. Reduced masturbation due to reduced stress/anxiety.
Headaches: Not Noticed
Dexterity: Not Noticed
Sleep: Not Noticed
Flu Like Symptoms: Not Noticed
Increased Hunger: Increased hunger was noticed, probably due to the symptom below
Diarrhea: Intermittent

I have missed two injections. I threw away one ampule after I cut my finger on the glass, a second ampule was lost after I prepared an injection and circumstance forced me to leave it for 12 hours. I should have refrigerated it.

Lessons: Injecting into legs sucks, but when done right it results in a clarity rush.

[megatron]

Incredible results after only two weeks. I can't wait for the effects after taking Cbl for several month

[troubleis]

Cant wait to get started..

[Xenix]

Incredible results after only two weeks. I can't wait for the effects after taking Cbl for several month

IM or IV?

[megatron]

Incredible results after only two weeks. I can't wait for the effects after taking Cbl for several month

IM or IV?

I was referring to Mr. Matsubayashis results I myself started IM injections on Monday.

[OpaqueMind]

I started on Monday too! *Synchronicity high five*

[stablemind]

Second week results based on a scale of -1 to 1, in 1/5 increments. 0 = no change.

Alcohol Sensitivity: Not tested
Alcohol Hangover Severity: Not tested
Caffeine Sensitivity: Not Tested
Other drug Sensitivities: Not Tested
Anti-Anxiety: 3/5
Anti-Stress: 2/5
Anti-Depressant: 3/5
Social Ability: 4/5
Speech: 2/5
Concentration: 1/5
Motivation: 0
Happiness: 2/5
Clarity: 2/5
Mental Energy: 4/5
Physical Energy: Not tested
Cognitive Benefit: 2/5
Memory Benefit: 2/5

Long Term Positive Effects: N/A
Drug Potency: 3/5
Time to Effect: N/A

Other possible effects:
Emotional Sensitivity: Not Noticed
Tolerance: Not Noticed
Vision: Not Noticed
Hearing: Not Noticed
Smell: Not Noticed
Libido: Libido is the same. Reduced masturbation due to reduced stress/anxiety.
Headaches: Not Noticed
Dexterity: Not Noticed
Sleep: Not Noticed
Flu Like Symptoms: Not Noticed
Increased Hunger: Increased hunger was noticed, probably due to the symptom below
Diarrhea: Intermittent

I have missed two injections. I threw away one ampule after I cut my finger on the glass, a second ampule was lost after I prepared an injection and circumstance forced me to leave it for 12 hours. I should have refrigerated it.

Lessons: Injecting into legs sucks, but when done right it results in a clarity rush.

Are the ratings relative to your last injection, or are you still comparing it to your pre-Cerebrolysin baseline state?

[sunshinefrost]

Second week results based on a scale of -1 to 1, in 1/5 increments. 0 = no change.

Alcohol Sensitivity: Not tested
Alcohol Hangover Severity: Not tested
Caffeine Sensitivity: Not Tested
Other drug Sensitivities: Not Tested
Anti-Anxiety: 3/5
Anti-Stress: 2/5
Anti-Depressant: 3/5
Social Ability: 4/5
Speech: 2/5
Concentration: 1/5
Motivation: 0
Happiness: 2/5
Clarity: 2/5
Mental Energy: 4/5
Physical Energy: Not tested
Cognitive Benefit: 2/5
Memory Benefit: 2/5

Long Term Positive Effects: N/A
Drug Potency: 3/5
Time to Effect: N/A

Other possible effects:
Emotional Sensitivity: Not Noticed
Tolerance: Not Noticed
Vision: Not Noticed
Hearing: Not Noticed
Smell: Not Noticed
Libido: Libido is the same. Reduced masturbation due to reduced stress/anxiety.
Headaches: Not Noticed
Dexterity: Not Noticed
Sleep: Not Noticed
Flu Like Symptoms: Not Noticed
Increased Hunger: Increased hunger was noticed, probably due to the symptom below
Diarrhea: Intermittent

I have missed two injections. I threw away one ampule after I cut my finger on the glass, a second ampule was lost after I prepared an injection and circumstance forced me to leave it for 12 hours. I should have refrigerated it.

Lessons: Injecting into legs sucks, but when done right it results in a clarity rush.

Are the ratings relative to your last injection, or are you still comparing it to your pre-Cerebrolysin baseline state?

I'm wondering if you are responding to cerebrolysin at this time because you might still be building up or be in the loading loading phase... The reason i say this is because of the score you gave for mental clarity, concentration, vision (in terms of color saturation). I guess we'll see next week

[sunshinefrost]

fuckin Board keeps kicking me out !!! is anyone else getting this ???

What browser are you using?
Maybe this has something to do with it.

Using google chrome and my iphone ... Getting kicked EVERYDAY. The admins are not able to tell me whAts going on.

Im no IT expert, but accessing your profile, and the threads your subscribing to, from different browsers on different devices may have something to do with it.

Try using the same browser on both desktop and phone and see what happens.

The weird thing is i am not disconnected from any other subjects/topics

[sunshinefrost]

Double

Edited by sunshinefrost, 30 January 2013 - 11:13 PM.

[sunshinefrost]

what are people's experience after discontinuing cere? at least one poster, russianBEAR, was talking about negative emotional states when off the cere, but i'm under the impression that typically cere leaves users with an overall elevated state after a cycle (not as great as during the cycle but better than before it). curious to hear more experience about cere - for month on it, but especially for the several months after (it's overall effect on one's life)?

In my case i feel like i'm back to baseline but with a slightly faster brain. But nothing drastic. Working memory is definitly not as performant but normal-and-slightly-faster, and healed, is perfect for me. After sometimes i start to miss it because clarity is ...kind of usefull these days. .

[therein]

I just placed my order for Cerebrolysin and wondering if I could use something like Lidocaine to make the injections a little easier. Also, I am thinking of buying 23 gauge needles and a 5mL syringe. Do I need a filter and how long the needle should be?

[sunshinefrost]

I just placed my order for Cerebrolysin and wondering if I could use something like Lidocaine to make the injections a little easier. Also, I am thinking of buying 23 gauge needles and a 5mL syringe. Do I need a filter and how long the needle should be?

Filters are hard to find, Get gauge 25, easier.

[therein]

I just placed my order for Cerebrolysin and wondering if I could use something like Lidocaine to make the injections a little easier. Also, I am thinking of buying 23 gauge needles and a 5mL syringe. Do I need a filter and how long the needle should be?

Filters are hard to find, Get gauge 25, easier.

Does it get thinner or thicker as numbers go up? Also are there different lengths that I have to pick from? Are they standardized?

[megatron]

I just placed my order for Cerebrolysin and wondering if I could use something like Lidocaine to make the injections a little easier. Also, I am thinking of buying 23 gauge needles and a 5mL syringe. Do I need a filter and how long the needle should be?

Filters are hard to find, Get gauge 25, easier.

Does it get thinner or thicker as numbers go up? Also are there different lengths that I have to pick from? Are they standardized?

Read through the thread.

[OpaqueMind]

I just placed my order for Cerebrolysin and wondering if I could use something like Lidocaine to make the injections a little easier. Also, I am thinking of buying 23 gauge needles and a 5mL syringe. Do I need a filter and how long the needle should be?

Filters are hard to find, Get gauge 25, easier.

Does it get thinner or thicker as numbers go up? Also are there different lengths that I have to pick from? Are they standardized?

I'll save you the hassle of having to trawl through the thread. Higher gauge means a thinner needle. 25 gauge is good, absolutely no pain except a little pressure on the skin as it penetrates. Generally you want 1'-1.5' length needles, for I.M injection that is. About filters, it seems the general consensus is that they are not needed, unless you really want that extra peace of mind. IIRC a 25g needle filters out glass particulates (which has apparently been a problem for some people, although all my ampoule breakages have been clean without any visible particulate contamination) just as effectively as a filter. See Mr Matsubayashi's injection guide earlier in the thread for a very thorough and detailed break-down of the process.

[megatron]

what are people's experience after discontinuing cere? at least one poster, russianBEAR, was talking about negative emotional states when off the cere, but i'm under the impression that typically cere leaves users with an overall elevated state after a cycle (not as great as during the cycle but better than before it). curious to hear more experience about cere - for month on it, but especially for the several months after (it's overall effect on one's life)?

In my case i feel like i'm back to baseline but with a slightly faster brain. But nothing drastic. Working memory is definitly not as performant but normal-and-slightly-faster, and healed, is perfect for me. After sometimes i start to miss it because clarity is ...kind of usefull these days. .

I find this a bit troubling, because Cerebrolysin is supposed to promote neurogenesis. The neurons and nerve cells created during a cycle of Cbl and heavy brain workouts, shouldn't just disappear.

[therein]

I just placed my order for Cerebrolysin and wondering if I could use something like Lidocaine to make the injections a little easier. Also, I am thinking of buying 23 gauge needles and a 5mL syringe. Do I need a filter and how long the needle should be?

Filters are hard to find, Get gauge 25, easier.

Does it get thinner or thicker as numbers go up? Also are there different lengths that I have to pick from? Are they standardized?

I'll save you the hassle of having to trawl through the thread. Higher gauge means a thinner needle. 25 gauge is good, absolutely no pain except a little pressure on the skin as it penetrates. Generally you want 1'-1.5' length needles, for I.M injection that is. About filters, it seems the general consensus is that they are not needed, unless you really want that extra peace of mind. IIRC a 25g needle filters out glass particulates (which has apparently been a problem for some people, although all my ampoule breakages have been clean without any visible particulate contamination) just as effectively as a filter. See Mr Matsubayashi's injection guide earlier in the thread for a very thorough and detailed break-down of the process.

Thank you, that helped a lot.

[sunshinefrost]

what are people's experience after discontinuing cere? at least one poster, russianBEAR, was talking about negative emotional states when off the cere, but i'm under the impression that typically cere leaves users with an overall elevated state after a cycle (not as great as during the cycle but better than before it). curious to hear more experience about cere - for month on it, but especially for the several months after (it's overall effect on one's life)?

In my case i feel like i'm back to baseline but with a slightly faster brain. But nothing drastic. Working memory is definitly not as performant but normal-and-slightly-faster, and healed, is perfect for me. After sometimes i start to miss it because clarity is ...kind of usefull these days. .

I find this a bit troubling, because Cerebrolysin is supposed to promote neurogenesis. The neurons and nerve cells created during a cycle of Cbl and heavy brain workouts, shouldn't just disappear.

Tests and studies have shown that improvements appear to stay for a period of up to 6 months in rats,elders or alzheimers, can't recall. There is a proven prolonged effect, but as for tangible anecdotal, it's tuff to say. What isn't tuff to say is that cerebrolysin has the potential, in my opinion, to rescue you from the negative cascading effects of brain aging and may be crutial if you lack neurotrophic substances like ngf or bdnf. The new neurons are still there, but will they last? will your off-cere brain have enough electricity to use them ? Not sure. But I'm optimistic about it. One thing that tells me the new neurons are still there is the fact that i respond right away in all subsequand cycles. The first cycle took 13 days of 5ml injections... Second cycle took 45mins after 1st injection

Edited by sunshinefrost, 31 January 2013 - 10:20 PM.

[OpaqueMind]

I imagine it would be easy to overlook cognitive changes once they have been implemented. Consciousness ignores the constant. What is developed quickly becomes foundation and fades into the background.

The difference between your first and second cycle reactions suggest some permanent alteration, but if it was a simple receptor density change this would most likely be reversed relatively quickly after discontinuation.

How long has it been between your cycles? And is the effect of the first injection of your new cycle equivalent, greater or lesser compared to the last injection of your last cycle?

[hooter]

I imagine it would be easy to overlook cognitive changes once they have been implemented. Consciousness ignores the constant. What is developed quickly becomes foundation and fades into the background.

I tried to focus and meditate, and noticed that Cerebrolysin improvements from 10x 10ml more than 6 months ago still remain. To some degree, the effects are partially permanent or at least very long lasting (year+).

Edited by hooter, 01 February 2013 - 09:39 AM.

[troubleis]

I imagine it would be easy to overlook cognitive changes once they have been implemented. Consciousness ignores the constant. What is developed quickly becomes foundation and fades into the background.

I tried to focus and meditate, and noticed that Cerebrolysin improvements from 10x 10ml more than 6 months ago still remain. To some degree, the effects are partially permanent or at least very long lasting (year+).

in total, you did 10 days of 10ml each day or?
And still it had an effect?

[megatron]

I imagine it would be easy to overlook cognitive changes once they have been implemented. Consciousness ignores the constant. What is developed quickly becomes foundation and fades into the background.

That's why we have mental tests like cambridgesciences and DNB to keep track of any progress

[sunshinefrost]

How long has it been between your cycles? And is the effect of the first injection of your new cycle equivalent, greater or lesser compared to the last injection of your last cycle?

I probably did my 4 cycles in the 1st year. Then i cycled on a need to basis.

I would say that the effects on first and lest are equivalent. I did not notice any difference.

[tdmonster99]

Just received my order of Cerebrolysin from gerovitalshop.eu and performed my first IM injection. I chose the vastus lateralis for the injection site and used a 25 g x 1" needle and it was painless. Surprisingly painless. For the regimen I opted for 5 mL x 5 days per week for 4 weeks. My goal is to treat depersonalization/derealization symptoms I attribute to an experience with DMT, onset October 2009. Symptoms include visual distortions, feeling like i'm in a dream, some verbal fluidity issues, and issues with depressive/anxiety symptoms. I'm a pretty functional person right now in grad school and I'm just looking to return to my prior level of function pre-DMT experience.

Initial reactions: The injection was simply painless. I don't have a huge fear of needles but I like to avoid injections whenever possible. I would definitely recommend 25 g x 1" needle. After the injection, there was a huge surge of "holy shit I just injected myself with pig brains and didn't die" feeling which brings about much elation. Currently feeling anxiolytic effects however I'll chalk it up to placebo for now to be on the safe side. i will keep you guys updated on progress.

[therein]

Just received my order of Cerebrolysin from gerovitalshop.eu and performed my first IM injection. I chose the vastus lateralis for the injection site and used a 25 g x 1" needle and it was painless. Surprisingly painless. For the regimen I opted for 5 mL x 5 days per week for 4 weeks. My goal is to treat depersonalization/derealization symptoms I attribute to an experience with DMT, onset October 2009. Symptoms include visual distortions, feeling like i'm in a dream, some verbal fluidity issues, and issues with depressive/anxiety symptoms. I'm a pretty functional person right now in grad school and I'm just looking to return to my prior level of function pre-DMT experience.

Initial reactions: The injection was simply painless. I don't have a huge fear of needles but I like to avoid injections whenever possible. I would definitely recommend 25 g x 1" needle. After the injection, there was a huge surge of "holy shit I just injected myself with pig brains and didn't die" feeling which brings about much elation. Currently feeling anxiolytic effects however I'll chalk it up to placebo for now to be on the safe side. i will keep you guys updated on progress.

I have experimented with DMT before and got some de-realization feelings from it too. I think they've totally subsided after some point but I can still use more clarity.

I have some questions about gerovitalshop.eu. Where do you live and how long did it take to get there?

[tdmonster99]

I live in the USA and it took about 12 days.

[therein]

Any updates from people using/have used Cerebrolysin? Are you still seeing improvements, or are they fading away?

[troubleis]

Chime in CerebroNauts.. We need more info

im on my third day so nothing going on yet that, that's not placebo.