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[megatron]

Well, maybe it isn't weird at all that I don't notice much from 10ml. In the clinical trials they used doses up to 30ml, so 10ml would be considered pretty low...

[sunshinefrost]

Well, maybe it isn't weird at all that I don't notice much from 10ml. In the clinical trials they used doses up to 30ml, so 10ml would be considered pretty low...

Personally i thinks you should notice at 10, how many doses done at this time ?

[megatron]

Well, maybe it isn't weird at all that I don't notice much from 10ml. In the clinical trials they used doses up to 30ml, so 10ml would be considered pretty low...

Personally i thinks you should notice at 10, how many doses done at this time ?

6 at 10ml
20 at 5ml

[Mr Matsubayashi]

I don't normally drink coffee (tea, or any other caffeinated drinks) but I thought I’d give it a go as a Cere experiment as many people noticed an increased sensitivity. Based on my previous experiences with caffeine I would say Cere defiantly enhances the stimulation. When I was at university I would drink those ridiculous 500ml cans of red bull to pull overnighters (infrequently), they didn't affect me as much as sipping a black coffee while on Cere. I only finished about half the coffee as I was concerned about my job performance if I drank anymore. At half a coffee I felt like bouncing off the walls and had to concentrate on not talking too fast.
It was a long black (a normal sized cup with black coffee).

That night I only got 5 hours of sleep (target 8).

I need to do some research into legal stimulants which don't develop tolerance.

Fun fun

Edited by Mr Matsubayashi, 05 March 2013 - 09:53 AM.

[therein]

There is really no such thing as a non-tolerance-building stimulant. I wish there was.

Edited by therein, 05 March 2013 - 10:13 AM.

[megatron]

Vastus lateralis injection is crap. If you don't mark the spot where you've had a successful injection, the chance of hitting a vein or a nerve is really big. Also, this site hurts more. 4 out 5 injections I've hit a vein and bled a significant amount. Nope, I'm going to stick with the ventrogluteal and dorsogluteal injections sites.

Edited by Megatrone, 05 March 2013 - 11:31 AM.

[Mr Matsubayashi]

That's unfortunate news therein. Perhaps I will need to develop my own noot war chest to see what's good with Cere. The synergies people noted in this thread were varied. ALCAR (mostly theoretical, no one mentioned it having a enhanced effect in combination, in fact one person said it was a bad combination), Picamilon, tianeptine, product B, C60 olive oil, NPEP, adderal, piracetam, nuvigil, aniracetam, ORMEs, Caffeine (obviously), Gerbil Stack, DHA, phosphatidyl serine, Royal Jelly, Ginko, Viibryd, lions mane, imipramine, ashwaghanda, blue berries, lions mane, acetyl L carnatine arginate, noopept, astaxanthin, zinc, zoloft, zeaxanthin, lutein, omegas, melatonin.

I suspect that most users found that what they had taken previously, were currently taking, works fairly well with Cere. One of the synergies mentioned gave a user the "NZT" effect haha. I have tried ALCAR with Cere and without Cere. I didn't really notice an effect in either case..... Coffee on the other hand....

I'm taking Cere, blueberries (mostly because they're delicious), fish oil with the high EHA ratio, jarrows green defence and ALCAR. Considering getting some nicotine patches and trying them for fun. When I was on the month off I noticed feeling slightly more awake during my days with the aforementioned supplements.

Leg injections do suck! But i suspect that one of the reasons they suck also helps the absorption of IM injected solutions. I have the strongest drug response when I do the legs. I have a 60% success rate (not pulling out, changing the needle and trying a slightly different spot). Once the needle only had a shallow penetration but I injected anyway. The result was a large sore lump on the side of my leg which shrunk over the day.

Edited by Mr Matsubayashi, 05 March 2013 - 11:28 AM.

[Sholrak]

That's unfortunate news therein. Perhaps I will need to develop my own noot war chest to see what's good with Cere. The synergies people noted in this thread were varied. ALCAR (mostly theoretical, no one mentioned it having a enhanced effect in combination, in fact one person said it was a bad combination), Picamilon, tianeptine, product B, C60 olive oil, NPEP, adderal, piracetam, nuvigil, aniracetam, ORMEs, Caffeine (obviously), Gerbil Stack, DHA, phosphatidyl serine, Royal Jelly, Ginko, Viibryd, lions mane, imipramine, ashwaghanda, blue berries, lions mane, acetyl L carnatine arginate, noopept, astaxanthin, zinc, zoloft, zeaxanthin, lutein, omegas, melatonin.

I suspect that most users found that what they had taken previously, were currently taking, works fairly well with Cere. One of the synergies mentioned gave a user the "NZT" effect haha. I have tried ALCAR with Cere and without Cere. I didn't really notice an effect in either case..... Coffee on the other hand....

I'm taking Cere, blueberries (mostly because they're delicious), fish oil with the high EHA ratio, jarrows green defence and ALCAR. Considering getting some nicotine patches and trying them for fun. When I was on the month off I noticed feeling slightly more awake during my days with the aforementioned supplements.

Leg injections do suck! But i suspect that one of the reasons they suck also helps the absorption of IM injected solutions. I have the strongest drug response when I do the legs. I have a 60% success rate (not pulling out, changing the needle and trying a slightly different spot). Once the needle only had a shallow penetration but I injected anyway. The result was a large sore lump on the side of my leg which shrunk over the day.

Yes, RussianBear said, it`s a kind of balancer, so in theory it would potentiate every single nootropic, and synergize with any substance that exerts an effect on Neuro Growth Factor.

ALCAR, it`s said to increase NGF x 100. When I tried, I was simply amazed, it`s effects are clear and evident for me. It`s a pity it seems to cause hair loss, a big negative for me, despite being amazing substance.

Also, in this forum, some drugs were suggested to increase NGF, which should combien well with Cere.

Hey guys, this is my NGF stack:

10g Brewer's Yeast
This tastes terrible, swapping for pure Uridine, since price:return ratios are very similar.
Yields 300mg Uridine
Uridine, combined with OM3's, helps protect neurons by increasing levels of PC.

15mg Zinc (male; take ~6 if you're female)
Regulates cortical synaptic function.

2g Omega 3 Oil
1300mg EPA
700mg DHA
Synchronizes with Uridine
Utilized by the majority of the brain in numerous functions.

1.2g Lecithin (Choline)
Plays a similar function to Uridine.

4g Lion's Mane
Increases production of NGF.

750mg Nardosinone
A very potent and unique drug that enhances neurons.

10ml Ashitaba (Two teaspoons)
Increases NGF production by 20%.

100mg Pregnelone
Increases neurogenesis.

2mg Melatonin (Before Bed)
Reduces neuronal death.

1g ALCAR (Sigma-Tau extracted)
Reduces brain cell death.

500mg L-Tyrosine
Synchronizes well with ALCAR.

200mcg NGF (Eye Drops)
Neuron Growth Factor.

So, Lion`s Mane, Nardosine, Ashitaba, ALCAR,Pregnelone, NGF, which will be ridiculously expensive, BTW, are good additions.

Edited by Sholrak, 05 March 2013 - 01:28 PM.

[spookytooth]

@Megatrone: Vastus lateralis is a very common site for i.m. injections. When you've hit a vein you have to compress the area and there will be no significant amount of blood loss.

[megatron]

@Megatrone: Vastus lateralis is a very common site for i.m. injections. When you've hit a vein you have to compress the area and there will be no significant amount of blood loss.

Well, that last injection made the whole area ache. The needle was about halfway in, when I knew I'd hit a vein. The worst part was pulling it out, because it felt like something was stuck to the needle (incredibly uncomfortable). I don't know if it was just the vein or if I also hit a nerve, either way it was the worst injection yet and the area still hurts.

[motorcitykid]

Wasn't there a cerebrolysin nasal spray in the works? Whatever happened to that?

[troubleis]

Any Cerebronauts out there tried switching from IM to IV yet?

[Sholrak]

By the way, do you use filters/filter needles for IM injections? What was the veredict about that glass particles? 5 micron filters, five units for 30 USD, its expensive as HELL.

Just forget about the filters, they're really not necessary.

I forgot to answer you...

Really? You got an evidence for that or just some users here are excessively alarmist about the cristal pieces causing absceses and requiring surgery on the long term?

I wish, filters would be not needed, otherwise I will be fucked up by the extra cost. But first thing is safety, have no doubt on that, dont want to get someday to practitioners office saying,`well, I injected NGF aminoacids and peptides mixture of brain pigs without a filter and here we got this`

Please can anybody help me on this?

P.D. Megatrone, not saying I dont trust you, but I read a lot here about that and no one said anything conclussive, so...

[therein]

We don't really have scientific evidence confirming that filters aren't needed, however, from anecdotal evidence, most of us can tell you that the Cerebrolysin ampoule breaks really cleanly and evenly and that there aren't any small glass shards flying out. It breaks off one-piece.

[megatron]

Could the reason Cerebrolysin doesn't work for me yet, be because I'm only 19 years old and have never had any brain injuries or traumas? I just read about a "new" very effective cancer medicine (Alpharadin), where some of the patients stated it didn't work before 6 months for them. Could this happen to be a similar case? Since I'm very healthy it simply needs more time? What do you think? It just seems so strange that this drug wouldn't work, when nearly everyone has experienced a positive response.

Edited by Megatrone, 07 March 2013 - 07:58 PM.

[therein]

You might have a cumulative response from Cerebrolysin, just give it some time. What is your dosage? How long have you been taking Cerebrolysin, and are you sure that you're injecting into the muscle? Sometimes people don't go deep enough and just inject in fat.

[Sholrak]

Megatrone, yes it could be, totally. Just keep in mind, men are still developing, pshysically and mentally until the 20 or 21 years old age, so your body is yet providing you with growth hormones of every kind. That would be an explanation of the non effect of Cere. However you should see a little improvement, although you can`t notice it.

Edited by Sholrak, 08 March 2013 - 01:50 PM.

[troubleis]

I'ven been reading up on this thread again to check for IV use..

This has resulted in I now start to fear my CB is not legit..
Back in the days when GH from Novo Nordisk was "hot shit", you could buy fake ampules that looked EXACTLY like the original, yet was either fake or a cheap chinese brand, diluted/non-diluted..

How do one find out? Contacting EVER Neuro Pharma is the most logical thing i can think of.
It is bought via Nootropic.eu. How do we know they sell REAL CB? Maybe they are not even aware that what they're selling is fake :(

Anyways, so far i'm already halfway through my shipment of 250ml. Effect have somewhat subsided a little, and i still contemplate shooting up the remaining 125ml in 10ml doses intravenously..

[therein]

What makes you think that your CB is not legit?

[troubleis]

Because experience have taught me that some people will go very far and do a great deal of work in order to sell their fake drugs..
Including staging forum posts withe several users(or single user with several profiles) pumping up their goods.

My boxes never had a hologram of any kind..
Theyre not from Ebewe, but EVER. And they kindda "foamed" for 2 weeks until you popped the cap of..
Im not saying it actually is fake.. It's just former experince that make me wary.

[therein]

I don't think foam means anything. It could be faked, it is possible for that to happen. I just don't think that you should be worried unless you noticed something alarming.

I don't think foam means anything. It could be faked, it is possible for that to happen. I just don't think that you should be worried unless you noticed something alarming.

[NootropicEU]

I'ven been reading up on this thread again to check for IV use..

This has resulted in I now start to fear my CB is not legit..
Back in the days when GH from Novo Nordisk was "hot shit", you could buy fake ampules that looked EXACTLY like the original, yet was either fake or a cheap chinese brand, diluted/non-diluted..

How do one find out? Contacting EVER Neuro Pharma is the most logical thing i can think of.
It is bought via Nootropic.eu. How do we know they sell REAL CB? Maybe they are not even aware that what they're selling is fake :(

Anyways, so far i'm already halfway through my shipment of 250ml. Effect have somewhat subsided a little, and i still contemplate shooting up the remaining 125ml in 10ml doses intravenously..

Your Cerebrolysin is bought from a real pharmacy (very big company with many stores in EU), then it gets posted directly to you. Pharmaceutical regulations are very strict in EU, same Cerebrolysin is being used at the hospitals here.
It is real and genuine product made by EVER Neuro Pharma. If you still have any doubts just take some pictures and send them to EVER Neuro Pharma they will confirm it.

Edited by NootropicEU, 11 March 2013 - 01:10 AM.

[troubleis]

I will look into it.
Thx

[medievil]

What is the 1ml version used for? Its like baby aspirin hard to imagine it does much with everyone taking 10ml, any idea's how it gets metabolised? As i may potentiate it with black pepper if im lucky haha.

[troubleis]

Topic starter wrote on one of the early pages that it was used for babies!! Dont know if it was a joke or anything though!!
I think it is in the first 5 pages, so probably back from 2009 or so!

[medievil]

Baby's with early alzheimer?

[NootropicEU]

Baby's with early alzheimer?

Doctors use cerebrolysin to treat various neurological disorders in children. Google

[medievil]

psychotic baby's?

And manic baby's.

[zilla1126]

I don't know if you guys are joking, but clearly the 1ml doses are for babies who had difficult births that may have involved being without oxygen. Or for babies who endured a hostile womb environment - drug addicted mothers and so on.

[medievil]

I aint joking buddy, there's a reason they sell baby aspirin and baby haldol.