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[megatron]

Anyone ever bought from nootropics.eu ?

They look a bit shady. Their email adress is a @gmail.com
Kindda unproffesional somehow.
Also, they state they sell Choline, yet it cannot be found on their website!

So.. Any experience with them?

nootropics.eu doesn't sell Cbl. It's nootropic.eu. I ordered 10*10ml ampoules from them one week ago, and I received them yesterday. They've got excellent customer support and seem highly professional.

[FDA Approved]

I am reading conflicting opinion on the size gauge of needle to use. Can anyone clarify what gauge needle I should go buy? I'm hearing people say an 18 guage is good while others are saying you have to use a 23 guage needle.

Nobody is saying that you need a 18g. You can use 18g to draw in the crb from the ampule but it'd be a bit too big to inject yourself with. 22-25g 1-1.5'' is what you need. Higher gauge is better and the length depends on how big you are (body fat, etc.) and the injection spot.

[megatron]

Damn the pharmacist gave me 21g needles, when I said 25g. I said it was for IM injections and she gave me 21g. Let's just hope I survive.

[FDA Approved]

Damn the pharmacist gave me 21g needles, when I said 25g. I said it was for IM injections and she gave me 21g. Let's just hope I survive.

Its going to hurt significantly more, that's about it as far as I know.

[troubleis]

Anyone ever bought from nootropics.eu ?

They look a bit shady. Their email adress is a @gmail.com
Kindda unproffesional somehow.
Also, they state they sell Choline, yet it cannot be found on their website!

So.. Any experience with them?

I just placed an order about two days ago. I'll let you know how it goes.


I am reading conflicting opinion on the size gauge of needle to use. Can anyone clarify what gauge needle I should go buy? I'm hearing people say an 18 guage is good while others are saying you have to use a 23 guage needle.

Great. I'll let you know as well I have placed an order also. 250ml. Should be enough for quite som time

[megatron]

Is this the ventrogluteal injection site? Should it be further down? Since the site is so small I want to be absolutely sure.

Edited by Megatrone, 26 January 2013 - 03:14 PM.

[spookytooth]

I find the vastus lateralis and rectus femoris very easy sites to do injections in.
http://reach.mednetc...eralis_site.jpg

http://www.ykhoa.net...ttiemantoan.pdf
this is a very good guide to various methods of injection and injection sites

[FDA Approved]

Is this the ventrogluteal injection site? Should it be further down? Since the site is so small I want to be absolutely sure.

I think so. This is about the same spot that I located today when trying to locate the ventrogluteal muscle but it hurt too much when I tried to poke the needle in so in the end I reverted to the dorsogluteal muscle instead. However I think that it hurt me because I was trying to do it with a 22g which turned out to cause me pain when poking in the dorsogluteal as well, so it was probably not an indication that this is not the site.
I would also be interested to hear if this is indeed the correct site.

[Plasticperson]

Is this the ventrogluteal injection site? Should it be further down? Since the site is so small I want to be absolutely sure.

NO

down and to the right. the muscle that runs vertically on the right edge of your body, in this pic, is the muscle!!!

Edited by Plasticperson, 28 January 2013 - 02:43 AM.

[csrpj]

what are people's experience after discontinuing cere? at least one poster, russianBEAR, was talking about negative emotional states when off the cere, but i'm under the impression that typically cere leaves users with an overall elevated state after a cycle (not as great as during the cycle but better than before it). curious to hear more experience about cere - for month on it, but especially for the several months after (it's overall effect on one's life)?

[megatron]

I did my first injection at the site on the picture above using a 21g needle. Damn, I made a big mistake standing up doing it. I was almost all the way in when I suddenly started sweating like hell, then I knew passing out was coming next, so I pulled out and immediately sat down. I also experienced nausea. Sitting down, I injected Cbl in maybe five seconds as nausea was building up again. The injection itself was not very painful, but penetrating the muscle was really noticeable, as the resistance increased a lot. When I was all the way in, I tried to aspirate to check for blood, but I couldn't move the top of the syringe back one millimeter. Is this a good thing? Also there were some very small bubbles around the top of the syringe that I just couldn't get rid of. How can I solve this problem?

Edited by Megatrone, 28 January 2013 - 12:58 PM.

[JohnD60]

It is helpful when locating the ventrogluteal to transition between sitting and standing. When in the sitting postition, it is below the v formed when you sit.

[sunshinefrost]

fuckin Board keeps kicking me out !!! is anyone else getting this ???

[sunshinefrost]

Double post

Edited by sunshinefrost, 29 January 2013 - 12:05 AM.

[protoject]

Is this the ventrogluteal injection site? Should it be further down? Since the site is so small I want to be absolutely sure.

NO

down and to the right. the muscle that runs vertically on the right edge of your body, in this pic, is the muscle!!!

no dude plasticperson i think thats the tensor fascicae youre talking about, im pretty sure this person has the exact right spot. its practically right in the middle of you from a side view. check my pics of the muscle in previous postings. plus i found that spot works best. there's a pretty broad area for the specific muscle. Well, maybe not broad but you could have gone a bit lower if it felt like it was too high, looks fine to me though, you just need 25g not shitty ass huge motha f**in 21 g man that is nuts. But im a skinny dude so .... yeah

I am not a doctor

[NootropicEU]

Jesus Christ! Inject it into your arse(use a mirror) or ask somebody qualified to do it.

[sunshinefrost]

Jesus Christ! Inject it into your arse(use a mirror) or ask somebody qualified to do it.

Amen !!

[FDA Approved]

Jesus Christ! Inject it into your arse(use a mirror) or ask somebody qualified to do it.

Don't you rotate sites at all??

[troubleis]

fuckin Board keeps kicking me out !!! is anyone else getting this ???

What browser are you using?
Maybe this has something to do with it.

[megatron]

I don't think the local pharmacy has 25g 1 1/2" needles. How big is the difference between 21g and 23g?

[OpaqueMind]

Do you guys use seperate needles for extracting from the ampoule and injecting, as per Mr M's guide? If so, what is the logic behind this, where does the potential for contamination come from?

[JohnD60]

the logic of using a 21 guage to draw in the fluid is just that using a #25 to draw in the liquid would take much longer.

[FDA Approved]

I don't think the local pharmacy has 25g 1 1/2" needles. How big is the difference between 21g and 23g?

22g hurts significantly more(haven't even done a proper injection with the 22g as I use the pain to judge wether I am actually injecting in a good spot) for me than 23g and 25g feels painless. 21g must be pretty bad but if you are okay with the pain it doesn't really matter much.

[Xenix]

What are some supplements that could help boost the effect of Cerebrolysin, or make it enter the brain more effectively... hydrogen peroxide? sources say that it boosts oxygen flow to the brain and can (apparently) cure different types of cancer.

[OpaqueMind]

A good B-vitamin or multivit to provide some of the more uncommon components of the nervous system would be a good adjunct, but I think the main thing (although not a supplement) is a copious and continuous intake of protein to provide the basic building blocks in the construction of your new neurons.

[megatron]

The first injection was the first and final one with a 21g needle. During the second injection today, I came too close to the hip bone and the skin just wouldn't give in (very painful), so I gave up. I think it also had something to do with the experience of the first injection (almost fainting). I went back to the pharmacy and bought 23g 1 1/4" needles

Edited by Megatrone, 29 January 2013 - 04:35 PM.

[FDA Approved]

What are some supplements that could help boost the effect of Cerebrolysin, or make it enter the brain more effectively... hydrogen peroxide? sources say that it boosts oxygen flow to the brain and can (apparently) cure different types of cancer.

MAOIs apparently strengthen the effect I've been experimenting with methylene blue (a weak MAOI) and I think its making the effect stronger but I haven't experimented long enough to confirm.

[sunshinefrost]

fuckin Board keeps kicking me out !!! is anyone else getting this ???

What browser are you using?
Maybe this has something to do with it.

Using google chrome and my iphone ... Getting kicked EVERYDAY. The admins are not able to tell me whAts going on.

[Plasticperson]

Is this the ventrogluteal injection site? Should it be further down? Since the site is so small I want to be absolutely sure.

NO

down and to the right. the muscle that runs vertically on the right edge of your body, in this pic, is the muscle!!!

no dude plasticperson i think thats the tensor fascicae youre talking about, im pretty sure this person has the exact right spot. its practically right in the middle of you from a side view. check my pics of the muscle in previous postings. plus i found that spot works best. there's a pretty broad area for the specific muscle. Well, maybe not broad but you could have gone a bit lower if it felt like it was too high, looks fine to me though, you just need 25g not shitty ass huge motha f**in 21 g man that is nuts. But im a skinny dude so .... yeah

I am not a doctor

youre completely right. but i do have good results with this spot; and the deltoid.

Edited by Plasticperson, 30 January 2013 - 02:31 AM.

[megatron]

23g was a hell lot better yes, a lot more comfortable. When I pulled the needle out, there was quite some blood running down from the injection site. Did I hit a vein?