Cerebrolysin
#1501
Posted 12 May 2013 - 04:27 PM
This is the third day, however I have chosen not to do today the injection, as I'm going to have a relaxed day. So, I have done two doses.
I don't know why some people seems to miss Cere's effect, but I theorize those with some ADD or ASD disorders respond inmediately, due to some neuron growing anomaly, maybe.
I can't say too much for now, but indeed, I could see the effect the FIRST day i did it. It's difficult to define it, but I knew that feeling could not be placebo. I can't say I have reached the potential as I have only done two days. But, the effect of this substance is interesting. I feel like my brain is getting some kind of correction or reparation, and exactly, I feel more like I would feel some years ago, like has been said here. The most impressive thing is that it feels supernatural. At the first day, I got shocked, and I mean shocked by the sensation of having a more active mind so suddenly. Well, I'll try to sintethize my observations:
-There is an anxyolitic effect, that is mild but enought for day to day.
-The antidepressive effect is great. I haven't taken any antidepressive never so I can't compare, but Cere really rids off your depression in a natural way. Good mood all the day.
- Vision is better. More vivid colors and more sight angle, more periferic vision. Also, more intuition with people, it seems to be easier to know how others feel.
- More sociability, but I have seen a more apathic effect, maybe it's just me being more conscious about everything so I don't have the urge to be nice to people. However, talking with friends is more pleasurable. Also, I seem to have easiness to talk to unknown people.
- Better motor coordination. It looks like I walk with more sincronization.
- Music is 100 times more enjoyable. First day I heard one of my favourite songs and my dick almost got hard xD It's like you can appreciate better all the sounds in conjunction. And this is applicable to sounds in general.
- I am now more spontaneous, and I feel that what I say and I do is like a better choice. That should be the clarity effect.
- Smell sense is augmented. Also, I would say tactile sensation is too augmented. Definitely, Cere seems to connect five senses more between themselves. Normally, I would say that I had paid attention to one sense and the others "deactivate". But know, is like if you have a whole sensorial machine, you can process images, sounds, odors, smells and tact all the same time.
- I haven't studied or read anything yet, so, I will update to tell how concentration and academic hability improves.
Definitely, I like it, and I have done it only 2 days. I have the impression, the best things are coming. But for now, it looks like a legitimate medication to treat depression, anxiety, brain fog, social phobia, difficulty concentrating, even shyness. Wow, I'm happy to have taken this choice, I'm sure it will help me tremendously.
#1502
Posted 12 May 2013 - 08:20 PM
A little update on my Cere journey
This is the third day, however I have chosen not to do today the injection, as I'm going to have a relaxed day. So, I have done two doses.
I don't know why some people seems to miss Cere's effect, but I theorize those with some ADD or ASD disorders respond inmediately, due to some neuron growing anomaly, maybe.
I can't say too much for now, but indeed, I could see the effect the FIRST day i did it. It's difficult to define it, but I knew that feeling could not be placebo. I can't say I have reached the potential as I have only done two days. But, the effect of this substance is interesting. I feel like my brain is getting some kind of correction or reparation, and exactly, I feel more like I would feel some years ago, like has been said here. The most impressive thing is that it feels supernatural. At the first day, I got shocked, and I mean shocked by the sensation of having a more active mind so suddenly. Well, I'll try to sintethize my observations:
-There is an anxyolitic effect, that is mild but enought for day to day.
-The antidepressive effect is great. I haven't taken any antidepressive never so I can't compare, but Cere really rids off your depression in a natural way. Good mood all the day.
- Vision is better. More vivid colors and more sight angle, more periferic vision. Also, more intuition with people, it seems to be easier to know how others feel.
- More sociability, but I have seen a more apathic effect, maybe it's just me being more conscious about everything so I don't have the urge to be nice to people. However, talking with friends is more pleasurable. Also, I seem to have easiness to talk to unknown people.
- Better motor coordination. It looks like I walk with more sincronization.
- Music is 100 times more enjoyable. First day I heard one of my favourite songs and my dick almost got hard xD It's like you can appreciate better all the sounds in conjunction. And this is applicable to sounds in general.
- I am now more spontaneous, and I feel that what I say and I do is like a better choice. That should be the clarity effect.
- Smell sense is augmented. Also, I would say tactile sensation is too augmented. Definitely, Cere seems to connect five senses more between themselves. Normally, I would say that I had paid attention to one sense and the others "deactivate". But know, is like if you have a whole sensorial machine, you can process images, sounds, odors, smells and tact all the same time.
- I haven't studied or read anything yet, so, I will update to tell how concentration and academic hability improves.
Definitely, I like it, and I have done it only 2 days. I have the impression, the best things are coming. But for now, it looks like a legitimate medication to treat depression, anxiety, brain fog, social phobia, difficulty concentrating, even shyness. Wow, I'm happy to have taken this choice, I'm sure it will help me tremendously.
Interesting, this really gives me hope.
Did it help your sleep at all?
I can't wait to hear if it helped your working memory.
Keep taking it, it seems to really affect you.
#1503
Posted 12 May 2013 - 11:39 PM
any effects on libido? mental energy? creativity? and sleep? thank you.A little update on my Cere journey
This is the third day, however I have chosen not to do today the injection, as I'm going to have a relaxed day. So, I have done two doses.
I don't know why some people seems to miss Cere's effect, but I theorize those with some ADD or ASD disorders respond inmediately, due to some neuron growing anomaly, maybe.
I can't say too much for now, but indeed, I could see the effect the FIRST day i did it. It's difficult to define it, but I knew that feeling could not be placebo. I can't say I have reached the potential as I have only done two days. But, the effect of this substance is interesting. I feel like my brain is getting some kind of correction or reparation, and exactly, I feel more like I would feel some years ago, like has been said here. The most impressive thing is that it feels supernatural. At the first day, I got shocked, and I mean shocked by the sensation of having a more active mind so suddenly. Well, I'll try to sintethize my observations:
-There is an anxyolitic effect, that is mild but enought for day to day.
-The antidepressive effect is great. I haven't taken any antidepressive never so I can't compare, but Cere really rids off your depression in a natural way. Good mood all the day.
- Vision is better. More vivid colors and more sight angle, more periferic vision. Also, more intuition with people, it seems to be easier to know how others feel.
- More sociability, but I have seen a more apathic effect, maybe it's just me being more conscious about everything so I don't have the urge to be nice to people. However, talking with friends is more pleasurable. Also, I seem to have easiness to talk to unknown people.
- Better motor coordination. It looks like I walk with more sincronization.
- Music is 100 times more enjoyable. First day I heard one of my favourite songs and my dick almost got hard xD It's like you can appreciate better all the sounds in conjunction. And this is applicable to sounds in general.
- I am now more spontaneous, and I feel that what I say and I do is like a better choice. That should be the clarity effect.
- Smell sense is augmented. Also, I would say tactile sensation is too augmented. Definitely, Cere seems to connect five senses more between themselves. Normally, I would say that I had paid attention to one sense and the others "deactivate". But know, is like if you have a whole sensorial machine, you can process images, sounds, odors, smells and tact all the same time.
- I haven't studied or read anything yet, so, I will update to tell how concentration and academic hability improves.
Definitely, I like it, and I have done it only 2 days. I have the impression, the best things are coming. But for now, it looks like a legitimate medication to treat depression, anxiety, brain fog, social phobia, difficulty concentrating, even shyness. Wow, I'm happy to have taken this choice, I'm sure it will help me tremendously.
#1504
Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:19 AM
#1505
Posted 13 May 2013 - 06:03 PM
Since I barely have time before I leave on holiday, I'm thinking the max I can do is 10 x 10ml... Can I do it 10 days in arrow without the two day break (due to time constraints) or would that be overkill?
#1506
Posted 13 May 2013 - 08:47 PM
i read the instructions for IM and want to clarify. for each 10ml day, i can use a single syringe if i divide it into 2 ml injections, then then use two separate needles for injection, along with a separate needle for collecting the fluid into the syringe? so that's 1 10cc syringe + 3 25g1' needles?
#1507
Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:25 AM
Edited by daouda, 14 May 2013 - 07:26 AM.
#1508
Posted 14 May 2013 - 03:10 PM
Interesting, this really gives me hope.
Did it help your sleep at all?
I can't wait to hear if it helped your working memory.
Keep taking it, it seems to really affect you.
Well, I'm yet not sure if it has helped my sleep at all. Now I have done 2 days On 3 days Off. I would say the 2+1 first days it helped me to sleep, to get a comfortable position in bed without moving too much. The fourth day did not get any positive or negative effect, and yesterday, i took some coffee (probably too much) and had a hard time getting to sleep. So for now, it's difficult to know if it helped. I will be able to say that when I leave the excessive amount of coffee.
And, respect to the working memory, yes, absolutely. Note I barely have started the recommended cycle because I wanted to go slow to know well the susbtance, but I can say this last 5 days, I have had a more consistent short-term memory, which normally would have crashed in stress times or events. Before, looked like when the situation or day was too demanding, short-term memory tended to dissapear and instead of that I just could use mid and long term memory. Like an overloading in my capacity to observe the situation and take a good choice. That's one of the classic ADD symptons as far as I know, something related to improper learned fight or flight response that causes an extreme sensitivity to cortisol and stress hormones release. These days, I have felt I'm more in control of my emotions and reasonings at the same time, more like if Cere wanted to leave you with a more consistent third intermedium state between emotion and rational thinking (maybe, something related to limbic system/hippocampus regrowth?) where you feel more spontaneus and falsely hipo-maniac but totally in control.
any effects on libido? mental energy? creativity? and sleep? thank you.
Libido: yes, but, it has reduced masturbation a lot. I have more libido in general but I have too more control in when get aroused, but once I get aroused, it's much better. Also, I seem to look eloquent, hot and fantastic women (in contrast to 'normal' women, let's say to no offend anyone) with more admiration than before, and although I want to get to their panties more than ever, I have more patience, mood and determination to make them feel good at any price.
Mental energy: yes. Eloquence is augmented too, the impact of a bad situation does not burns me as much and I can retake my normal thinkings and mood. I'm sure this is related too to working memory. Yesterday I walked with my dog to a dog closed area in the park to play and run with other dogs. The usual think is me waiting one or one half hour and then getting so bored and impatient that I had to go home. Well, yesterday, I was like 3.5-4 hours really chilled out, talking with a lot of people and just getting fun. And that was in an Off day.
And creativity: I would say it affected more to my curiosity than my creativity, while for example Piracetam did the opposite. However, with Pira curiosity is dead, and with Cere, I get a nice rebound on creativity too as a consequence of feeling better in general.
I have retaken the injections today. I wanted to wait to let, at least, cannabis dependece to leave a while to try this with more conviction in the official schedule. It's getting harder, but I notice, smoking tobbacco and pot is slowly getting less pleasant, as if I knew hour to hour that don't want to mess with that much more. However, the effect of alcohol has almost totally reseted, I feel it like when I was younger and even I like it more
#1509
Posted 14 May 2013 - 04:33 PM
Hi all,
Since I barely have time before I leave on holiday, I'm thinking the max I can do is 10 x 10ml... Can I do it 10 days in arrow without the two day break (due to time constraints) or would that be overkill?
I would not do that. One peculiarity of this substance is it seems to be long lasting. If you do 10 days in a round, sure you will notice the effect better, but think doctors recommend 5 days and 2 of rest, and you can expand the effect of Cere more if you cycle, if you do x days and then stay y days off to see what effect leaves you. Then, when you feel the effect is going and is not reporting benefits anymore, then you do it again, and so... Can't you do 5 days on, 2 days off and repeat, or even split each ampule in two and do the one month course?
#1510
Posted 14 May 2013 - 07:19 PM
Hi all,
Since I barely have time before I leave on holiday, I'm thinking the max I can do is 10 x 10ml... Can I do it 10 days in arrow without the two day break (due to time constraints) or would that be overkill?
I would not do that. One peculiarity of this substance is it seems to be long lasting. If you do 10 days in a round, sure you will notice the effect better, but think doctors recommend 5 days and 2 of rest, and you can expand the effect of Cere more if you cycle, if you do x days and then stay y days off to see what effect leaves you. Then, when you feel the effect is going and is not reporting benefits anymore, then you do it again, and so... Can't you do 5 days on, 2 days off and repeat, or even split each ampule in two and do the one month course?
I actually have about 11 days in between the expected shipment of cere and the time I'm going on vacation, which is why I'm not able to do a full course until later on...(I'll mention that it's a meditation retreat in case there are more opinions about that in this context.)
#1511
Posted 14 May 2013 - 11:40 PM
Interesting, this really gives me hope.
Did it help your sleep at all?
I can't wait to hear if it helped your working memory.
Keep taking it, it seems to really affect you.
Well, I'm yet not sure if it has helped my sleep at all. Now I have done 2 days On 3 days Off. I would say the 2+1 first days it helped me to sleep, to get a comfortable position in bed without moving too much. The fourth day did not get any positive or negative effect, and yesterday, i took some coffee (probably too much) and had a hard time getting to sleep. So for now, it's difficult to know if it helped. I will be able to say that when I leave the excessive amount of coffee.
And, respect to the working memory, yes, absolutely. Note I barely have started the recommended cycle because I wanted to go slow to know well the susbtance, but I can say this last 5 days, I have had a more consistent short-term memory, which normally would have crashed in stress times or events. Before, looked like when the situation or day was too demanding, short-term memory tended to dissapear and instead of that I just could use mid and long term memory. Like an overloading in my capacity to observe the situation and take a good choice. That's one of the classic ADD symptons as far as I know, something related to improper learned fight or flight response that causes an extreme sensitivity to cortisol and stress hormones release. These days, I have felt I'm more in control of my emotions and reasonings at the same time, more like if Cere wanted to leave you with a more consistent third intermedium state between emotion and rational thinking (maybe, something related to limbic system/hippocampus regrowth?) where you feel more spontaneus and falsely hipo-maniac but totally in control.any effects on libido? mental energy? creativity? and sleep? thank you.
Libido: yes, but, it has reduced masturbation a lot. I have more libido in general but I have too more control in when get aroused, but once I get aroused, it's much better. Also, I seem to look eloquent, hot and fantastic women (in contrast to 'normal' women, let's say to no offend anyone) with more admiration than before, and although I want to get to their panties more than ever, I have more patience, mood and determination to make them feel good at any price.
Mental energy: yes. Eloquence is augmented too, the impact of a bad situation does not burns me as much and I can retake my normal thinkings and mood. I'm sure this is related too to working memory. Yesterday I walked with my dog to a dog closed area in the park to play and run with other dogs. The usual think is me waiting one or one half hour and then getting so bored and impatient that I had to go home. Well, yesterday, I was like 3.5-4 hours really chilled out, talking with a lot of people and just getting fun. And that was in an Off day.
And creativity: I would say it affected more to my curiosity than my creativity, while for example Piracetam did the opposite. However, with Pira curiosity is dead, and with Cere, I get a nice rebound on creativity too as a consequence of feeling better in general.
I have retaken the injections today. I wanted to wait to let, at least, cannabis dependece to leave a while to try this with more conviction in the official schedule. It's getting harder, but I notice, smoking tobbacco and pot is slowly getting less pleasant, as if I knew hour to hour that don't want to mess with that much more. However, the effect of alcohol has almost totally reseted, I feel it like when I was younger and even I like it more
Wow, thanks for the reply, it truly seems like a miracle!
I have high hopes this will cure my post benzodiazapine withdrawal syndrome.
I plan on doing it through IV instead of IM because I've done IV before and I would think it's more powerful than IM.
#1512
Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:22 PM
The first times I used 5 ml a day. The last two times I bought the 10 ml amps and used 10 ml a day. Someone I feel it does not work as good as the 5 ml amps. So I wandered if they are the same quality. I also ordered some 1 ml amps and I am using them at the moment. I use 1 to 3 ml a day and this works much better then the 10 ml a day. So maybe less is more, I dont know yet.
Maybe the quality from the 10 ml amps is not that good.
#1513
Posted 15 May 2013 - 08:47 PM
I have use the Cerebrolysin so now and then. Usually three times a year and between 4 and 6 weeks.
The first times I used 5 ml a day. The last two times I bought the 10 ml amps and used 10 ml a day. Someone I feel it does not work as good as the 5 ml amps. So I wandered if they are the same quality. I also ordered some 1 ml amps and I am using them at the moment. I use 1 to 3 ml a day and this works much better then the 10 ml a day. So maybe less is more, I dont know yet.
Maybe the quality from the 10 ml amps is not that good.
Were they bought from the same company?
Which company was this?
What affect did cerebrolysin have on you anyway?
#1514
Posted 15 May 2013 - 11:39 PM
#1515
Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:21 AM
I have use the Cerebrolysin so now and then. Usually three times a year and between 4 and 6 weeks.
The first times I used 5 ml a day. The last two times I bought the 10 ml amps and used 10 ml a day. Someone I feel it does not work as good as the 5 ml amps. So I wandered if they are the same quality. I also ordered some 1 ml amps and I am using them at the moment. I use 1 to 3 ml a day and this works much better then the 10 ml a day. So maybe less is more, I dont know yet.
Maybe the quality from the 10 ml amps is not that good.
- Maybe you got a long term (permanent?) improvement from your first round that corrected some issues in a very noticeable manner, making the effects of subsequent rounds less noticeable? (CERE's effects seem to be much more evident on unhealthy vs healthy ppl)
- Maybe you got somehow desensitized to CERE's effects after the first round? (I think the research on it suggests it is possible)
Question : did you get the 5ml and 10ml amps from the same supplier or different ones (and which one(s)?)
#1516
Posted 16 May 2013 - 12:22 AM
decided to take the plunge and try this out. is it fine to divide 5ml into two syringes and save one for the following day?
Yes. But use another head the next day. You could also go with 5ml untill you respond to it and then drop to 2,5... Marking the Loading/responding periode shorter ?
#1517
Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:01 AM
#1518
Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:45 PM
A few things I'd like to comment on.
Those reporting miraculous responses after 3 injections are surely experiencing the power of placebo. It's no small thing to embark on this injection protocol, and the excitement of starting will have your mind looking for all kinds of effects. Cere is not a miracle drug. Neurodegeneration is a slow life long process, as is neurogenesis. This drug is less for effects than it is for benefits. I often took it at night along with the DHA/Ach/Uridine combo and some coconut oil to give my body lots of raw material to do what repairing it could. All I can say is remain aware of how your expectations will easily affect what you experience. I'm suffering a very noticeable cognitive deficit and after the first week where I felt a bit peculiar, can't say there were any noticeable effects. I will continue to do 4 or so cycles a year in the hopes that over time Cere will help aid the slow recovery process.
Everyone responds differently I'm sure so don't mean to discount anyone's experience, but it's better not to rush to judgement. Also just for the record - I'm very drug sensitive. I can't drink coffee, tea or green tea as the caffeine makes me feel ill. I can't drink more than a couple alcoholic drinks before my vision starts to blur and I feel weirdly unsteady. One puff of tobacco sends my heart rate into uncomfortable territory. Get uncomfortably stoned off a tiny puff of a joint. Cere didn't have any perceivable short term effects on me.
During the cycle (as well as the DHA/Ach/Uridine combo) i took Jarrow multi vit, 2g NAC, 5000mcg methyl B12, milk thistle, 20mg lithium orotate and 20mg Fluoxotine daily. All in the aim of promoting neurogenesis as much as possible. I've also started university and am getting good marks.
RE GLASS SHARDS: Next time you snap off an ampoule head, put your finger on the bottom of the break on the head that you've snapped off. If you wipe your finger over the break you'll see tiny little glass particles that shine in the light. That's enough evidence for me to use filters next time. Don't want to imagine Cere carrying particles of glass around my body. Just because the nurses in you country don't do it, doesn't mean they're doing the right thing.
Good luck everyone.
#1519
Posted 16 May 2013 - 11:57 PM
#1520
Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:42 AM
Finished my cycle. 20 10ml IMs into my thighs.
A few things I'd like to comment on.
Those reporting miraculous responses after 3 injections are surely experiencing the power of placebo. It's no small thing to embark on this injection protocol, and the excitement of starting will have your mind looking for all kinds of effects. Cere is not a miracle drug. Neurodegeneration is a slow life long process, as is neurogenesis. This drug is less for effects than it is for benefits. I often took it at night along with the DHA/Ach/Uridine combo and some coconut oil to give my body lots of raw material to do what repairing it could. All I can say is remain aware of how your expectations will easily affect what you experience. I'm suffering a very noticeable cognitive deficit and after the first week where I felt a bit peculiar, can't say there were any noticeable effects. I will continue to do 4 or so cycles a year in the hopes that over time Cere will help aid the slow recovery process.
Everyone responds differently I'm sure so don't mean to discount anyone's experience, but it's better not to rush to judgement. Also just for the record - I'm very drug sensitive. I can't drink coffee, tea or green tea as the caffeine makes me feel ill. I can't drink more than a couple alcoholic drinks before my vision starts to blur and I feel weirdly unsteady. One puff of tobacco sends my heart rate into uncomfortable territory. Get uncomfortably stoned off a tiny puff of a joint. Cere didn't have any perceivable short term effects on me.
During the cycle (as well as the DHA/Ach/Uridine combo) i took Jarrow multi vit, 2g NAC, 5000mcg methyl B12, milk thistle, 20mg lithium orotate and 20mg Fluoxotine daily. All in the aim of promoting neurogenesis as much as possible. I've also started university and am getting good marks.
RE GLASS SHARDS: Next time you snap off an ampoule head, put your finger on the bottom of the break on the head that you've snapped off. If you wipe your finger over the break you'll see tiny little glass particles that shine in the light. That's enough evidence for me to use filters next time. Don't want to imagine Cere carrying particles of glass around my body. Just because the nurses in you country don't do it, doesn't mean they're doing the right thing.
Good luck everyone.
Maybe you injected it into the wrong area, or got a bad batch.
I seriously doubt what these people are reporting are placebo. They've tried many other nootropics before with nothing close to the power of cerebrolysin.
#1521
Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:23 AM
#1522
Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:27 AM
First off, I have been using Cerebro for about a year. I began with 5ml/day for 30 days, and subsequent 1ml/day 5 on 2 off.. I feel that the effects at 1ml a day are perfect for me. The higher ML made me feel like my mind was working faster than I can handle.
Next, I think this peptide has a more pronounced affect on those who need it...
For example: A person who had a stroke and tried tCerebrolysin would tend to see quicker results than someone who is healthy.
Dont get me wrong..Im not comparing anyone here to being unhealthy.. but taking into consideration: the environment, prior drug use, head trauma, mental disorders (including ADHD), and whatever else could make the patient more responsive..
What I recommend is consider either a blast and cruise, or simply just cruise.. I wouldnt do more than 5ml a day...your throwing your money away at that point.. Considering the cost benefits, I feel that 5ml is more than sufficient.
One effect I do enjoy are the dreams I get while on it...very vivid... As for memory retention, I feel that it has helped.. If I had to quantify the results, perhaps 15-25% improvment on memory... I have been studying for board exams over the last year, therefor most of my time is spent studying..
I personally wouldnt call this a miracle drug, but compared to comporables this by far is the best drug available.
#1523
Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:37 AM
What I recommend is consider either a blast and cruise, or simply just cruise.. I wouldnt do more than 5ml a day...your throwing your money away at that point.. Considering the cost benefits, I feel that 5ml is more than sufficient.
Many studies found best results at 30ml administered intravenously...a lot more than 5ml IM. 5ml might be suitable for a healthy individual, but for real neurological recovery maybe a lot more is required?
#1524
Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:38 AM
Nope, I'm going to be doing it through IV though.AwesomeName have you taken Cerebrolysin yet?
#1525
Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:54 AM
do you cycle like 1month off/ 1 month on?
Do you notice a any tolerance?
Edited by Nero, 17 May 2013 - 03:55 AM.
#1526
Posted 17 May 2013 - 04:16 AM
I havent noticed a higher tolerance... I have used my dreams as a baseline regarding tolerance... The times I have take a break, my dreams didnt compare to while I was on.. but once I beging my dosing schedule, they kick back in...
I suppose if I had access to IV and money wasnt an issue, I would be interested in dosing higher mg, but right now this is the best I got.
Edited by BigGuy1980, 17 May 2013 - 04:18 AM.
#1527
Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:04 PM
RE GLASS SHARDS: Next time you snap off an ampoule head, put your finger on the bottom of the break on the head that you've snapped off. If you wipe your finger over the break you'll see tiny little glass particles that shine in the light. That's enough evidence for me to use filters next time. Don't want to imagine Cere carrying particles of glass around my body. Just because the nurses in you country don't do it, doesn't mean they're doing the right thing.
Guys! Is this true? Let's take a moment and think about this...
I've been following the full discussion, and putting attention on whether or not filtration is necessary. After enough people said it was okay to go without filtering, I ended up getting all my supplies and without a filter. Do I need to get one for each day?
Isn't jonsow's comments irrefutable testament, and if not - why not? Lastly, would a 25 gauge needle - as some have suggested - be enough to act as a de facto filter?
#1528
Posted 17 May 2013 - 04:25 PM
If you are using a 21-23g needle to draw, Im pretty sure that glass wouldnt be able to travel up the pin, and if it did, Im pretty sure it would clog the pin..
Using a filter is much like using a seat bealt and wearing a helmet...
#1529
Posted 17 May 2013 - 05:24 PM
The 10 ml and 1 ml I bought from Super Human Gear. The 10 ml is doing well, but in my opinion 2 -3 ml works better. I am now going to try 1 ml three times a day.
BTW I never used filters. I take the liquid out with one needle, then I change the needle for a thinner one and inject it. I never had any problems with the injection.
Cerebrolysin is the best nootropic I used so far. It is a life changer for me and could be a life saver for other people.
If you want to change your life, quit bad habit, start with new things. Cerebrolysin is in my opinion the best thing.
#1530
Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:35 PM
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