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[Sholrak]

Definitely the effects acumulate somehow and are surprising to me. I came having each time more strange dreams last week, just strange, not relaxed or excited, different. Last night I had the worst dream ever. Won't comment on that. That bad success looked SO REAL, I passed from REM phase to awake on the impact of the dream and have been thinking on it the whole day. But it doesn't make me feel bad, just au contraire. It's like my brain prepared an ambush for me to give me a lesson. I was driving, running, talking, doing a lot of things (just this dream where you keep rushing all night or a part of it with different situations, mostly short but progressive) and then, suddenly, that bad new happened in the dream with perfect accurace of realism and personification into the dream, as a theater scene. I WAS THERE. I kind of could see me from near but that hasn't stealed any realism to the experience. It like I have seen a revelation about one personal issue, the one that worries and disturbs me, make com true. I can say I have awaked near to cry because someone was not there anymore (besides I knew it was a dream when awakened).

I hope not being sounding like a maniac, it's difficul to try to describe the effects of this. But I keep giving definitions just in case.

I think my REM phase was missed many months until I tried Cere. I mean, 80-90% of the three years I have simply had a really bad sleep quality. Now, I have mostly dreamed every night since the use. And has been like a re-lecture of every kind of dream I ever had once. I dreamed. About a woman. An intimate scene where I could remember the face of a woman. SO clearly. And then I don't know who she is, have I seen her? I can't even remember her face now. I sleep deep deep healthily and that makes me apt for every day. It's the repairing power of sleep multiplied. I'm always fresh and ready to go.

Edited by Sholrak, 20 August 2013 - 02:10 AM.

[sunshinefrost]

Sholrak, are you on nsi as well ? I keep having intense neverending dreams every night since instarted it. I'm almost looking forward for it tonight.

[Sholrak]

I missed first batch of NSI.


The dreams and over worried thinkings. Maybe, that is bad effect or a good effect of it? I'm not taknig it since 20-25 days ago.

Despite irregular schedule I was taking I am in a process this many weeks. I'm experiencing a jerarchic overpower of thinking and feeling gradually. More in "Love". I think.

This has made me care about everything more and don't get burned out. It wipes away your fear, and that lets you learn more each day.

Are you experiencing something relatively, closely similar in NSI to CRB?

Edited by Sholrak, 20 August 2013 - 02:49 AM.

[Passion]

Hey Sholrak,

Your testimonials are quite strong! I'd like to ask though... are you cycling CERE regularly as intended by the manufacturer or are you taking it every day straight? The recommended cycle is 5 times a week for four weeks, every four months. Are you just taking it every day? Also, are you using a filter now? A while back, you said you were going to go filter-less.

[sunshinefrost]

Are you experiencing something relatively, closely similar in NSI to CRB?

So far nsi isnt as powerfull as cerebrolysin. It has only been 5 days, i'm starting to understand it a bit but i did not notice major nootropic effect except for fast thinking. Cere takes a few days before you can feel its effect. Nsi you feel it right away. The feeling is similar but i like it way better on cere... Yet.

Cere = ultra clear mind, calm
Nsi = accelerated mind, rush

The anti anxiety of cere is unequaled at this point. I will continue untill the end of the batch and i'm still positive about the long term effects but if the end benefits of nsi dont match those of cere, i'm going back on the neuropeptide

Edited by sunshinefrost, 20 August 2013 - 03:39 AM.

[lourdaud]

Am I the only one feeling lethargic and depressed after a few days on cerebrolysin?
I don't know, maybe CRB only reinforces my usual state of being, but I remember someone speculated about depleted glutathione.. any ideas?

[uppercut1991]

So i have just ended first 5 days of 5ml cere. Today is the first day off. The main reason i started cere is my 5 year treatment resistant depression which includes anhedonia, lack of memories, social withdrawal, poor cognition. During these 5 days i experienced something similar what others users reported. The memories came back and i could feel how happy i was before depression, how i perceived the world. For the brief moments i regained old - myself, my dreams, my personality , the emotions i used to feel. But these moments come and go. They are very brief i need them to be more consistent.
As for side effects two days ago and yesterday i felt strange tension in my head, i had problem sitting still and focusing. I didn't experience these clarity of thoughts what others report i would say it was on the contrary. I think that i will try another 5 days of 5 ml. If these don't disappear i will lower my dosage to 3 or 2 ml.
So to sum up i definitely felt the positives but hope they are going to be more frequent

[Sholrak]

Hey Sholrak,

Your testimonials are quite strong! I'd like to ask though... are you cycling CERE regularly as intended by the manufacturer or are you taking it every day straight? The recommended cycle is 5 times a week for four weeks, every four months. Are you just taking it every day? Also, are you using a filter now? A while back, you said you were going to go filter-less.

I did 50 ml intead of the 100 ml one month would be. I followed some random schedules, can't remember exactly. I made from 50 ml 40+ days of using, not using everyday. Unfortunately, this is expensive, and I have the impression something of it's effect was not "over" or finished. Surely, one month at 5 ml 5/7 days will work wonders.

I used no filters. I took the medicine with a higher light needle (18-21 G) and inject with 25 G. The evidence seems truly unconclusive about filters, although I'll try to find cheap filtered needles for my next cycle (in october or so)

Are you experiencing something relatively, closely similar in NSI to CRB?

So far nsi isnt as powerfull as cerebrolysin. It has only been 5 days, i'm starting to understand it a bit but i did not notice major nootropic effect except for fast thinking. Cere takes a few days before you can feel its effect. Nsi you feel it right away. The feeling is similar but i like it way better on cere... Yet.

Cere = ultra clear mind, calm
Nsi = accelerated mind, rush

The anti anxiety of cere is unequaled at this point. I will continue untill the end of the batch and i'm still positive about the long term effects but if the end benefits of nsi dont match those of cere, i'm going back on the neuropeptide

Hmm, interesting, mixing the two of them could bring something "neutral", looks like.




uppercut19991, you said first you started to regain your old-self emotions, personality, how you felt before depression. And then you say you didn't get clarity of thought?

[uppercut1991]

Yes, maybe i didn't describe it properly but i mean that i have moments when these memories come and i feel happiness which i used to feel, how my passions gave me pleasure and had so much meaning for me and etc. and this come and go and at the same i feel i can't relax myself, there is some kind of tension in my head, i have trouble focusing, there is no calm in my mind and that is obviously negative effect. Today when i was off that diminish a little bit, so i hope that it will disappear completely. So far i can say that cere helped my more with depression and anhedonia than with cognition.

[Passion]

I'm really excited about this! I ordered my first batch but I have a few more questions for everyone who's tried it...

1) Has anyone noticed 10ml to be too much? I'm pretty sold by the testimonials I'm reading and I bought the 20x10ml package.
2) CERE is supposed to have a lasting effect for up to 4 months after dosing. Has anyone seen this to be true?
3) RussianBear mentioned that he noticed the effects diminishing over time when he took it consistently. Has anyone else noticed this?

[dereknel]

It gave me a lot of lucid dreams

[Sholrak]

I'm really excited about this! I ordered my first batch but I have a few more questions for everyone who's tried it...

1) Has anyone noticed 10ml to be too much? I'm pretty sold by the testimonials I'm reading and I bought the 20x10ml package.
2) CERE is supposed to have a lasting effect for up to 4 months after dosing. Has anyone seen this to be true?
3) RussianBear mentioned that he noticed the effects diminishing over time when he took it consistently. Has anyone else noticed this?

1) Did not tried 10 ml. 5 ml seems powerful enought and 10 may give problems sleeping if you take any stim like coffee.

2) Yes, it's long-lasting. Is a feeling that keeps changing even 25 days after of all the 50 ml I took. If you're going to take 200 ml, YES. It's different when you use it and the effects you observe while you are not taking, but there are gains.

3) I suspect three variables exist on this: first, how many time you use, second, how much dose, and third how consistently you use (breaks you take). But don't worry, russian bear took 10 ml daily for 6-8 months 4 days on 4 days off. Furthermore, I would say less is required with constan usage. It's possible when nerve damage has been restored you feel it less, but still quite powerful.



uppercut, yes, it's better for emotional well-being, for me that translates in better quality of every other aspect (focus, memory, critical thinking, logical thinking...) Have you any mental issue? One thing with Cere is it makes reality a bit more overwhelming when you are on it. But don't worry, it's not a bad thing to me (a bit) it's just you with the max mental power. Once you are off, that will completely dissapear. The effects seem to go and come during almost every day right now to me too.

[xsiv1]

My issue is with some of these sleep testimonials and specifically REM. I'm curious to know whether it increases REM and to what effect that would have on delta.

[andrewmartinuk]

Where can we buy Cerebrolysin ???

i think QHI Quality Health Inc. used to sell it in the u.k but they dont sell it anymore ...

Anybody found another source in the u.k ??

Its not licensed in the u.k yet is it ??

[xsiv1]

Am I the only one feeling lethargic and depressed after a few days on cerebrolysin?
I don't know, maybe CRB only reinforces my usual state of being, but I remember someone speculated about depleted glutathione.. any ideas?

Ugh, if that's true and even remotely depletes glutathione, it'd seem wise to also add some N-Acetyl-Cysteine to your regimen along with, at the very least, an equal amount of Vitamin C.

[spookytooth]

Am I the only one feeling lethargic and depressed after a few days on cerebrolysin?
I don't know, maybe CRB only reinforces my usual state of being, but I remember someone speculated about depleted glutathione.. any ideas?

I've experienced something similar to that on 10ml/day. I am lethargic and depressed most of the time anyway so it's kinda hard to tell but 10ml seemed to execerbate that. This is once I get used to the higher dose. At first it is always stimulating.
I will try supplementing some N-Acetylcystein.

Edited by spookytooth, 29 August 2013 - 10:11 PM.

[lourdaud]

I wonder if l-glutathione would work. NAC makes me feel like shit..

[spookytooth]

I'm really excited about this! I ordered my first batch but I have a few more questions for everyone who's tried it...

1) Has anyone noticed 10ml to be too much? I'm pretty sold by the testimonials I'm reading and I bought the 20x10ml package.
2) CERE is supposed to have a lasting effect for up to 4 months after dosing. Has anyone seen this to be true?
3) RussianBear mentioned that he noticed the effects diminishing over time when he took it consistently. Has anyone else noticed this?

1) if you read the posts obove my answer you will find what I wrote about 10ml/day
2) I think Cerebrolysin has sped up neuroregeneration for me. These results do not seem to have diminished over time although I can not fully answer you on that one since I had to take methylphenidate for university again and this always messes up my cognition for the weeks/months afterwards.
3) Yes. The first doses always feel very stimulating. This effect diminishes very quickly.

Am I the only one feeling lethargic and depressed after a few days on cerebrolysin?
I don't know, maybe CRB only reinforces my usual state of being, but I remember someone speculated about depleted glutathione.. any ideas?

Ugh, if that's true and even remotely depletes glutathione, it'd seem wise to also add some N-Acetyl-Cysteine to your regimen along with, at the very least, an equal amount of Vitamin C.

What dose of NAC would you take?

[xsiv1]

Although I don't take Cerebrolysin, I do take NAC, 400mgs in the morning with my other vitamins, especially C (there's still a reason to take C with NAC) and 400mgs in the evening, again with at least an equal amount of C.

[Passion]

Just got back from a quick trip to the city needle exchange program... boy did I feel out of place. There were a few heroine addicts there and the man at the counter tried to get me into a rehab program. The syringes they had were only 3mL and the gauges were 29G so it didn't work out. Walgreens only sells diabetes syringes/needles (1cc), so that's out of the question as well. Where does everyone around here get their supplies from?

I want to buy online now but I don't know of a reliable supplier. I don't want to buy anything from a shady site or eBay.

[JASOG888]

I have not yet needed to buy more syringes yet, but when I do, I am going to try this place. http://www.sterilesy...hp?currency=USD They are a sponsor of a BB site I joined.

[nefarious one]

a few notes about my experience with cerebrolysin:

RussianBear's experience and annotations about the compound are very accurate for me this far, minus the negatives. I have not had a single negative experience with it, but I also have not used it for nearly as long nor am I dosing as high as he was (mine @ 5mL/day nonstop vs his 10mL/day 4 days on, 4 days off).

Colors are richer, but not overwhelming. Brain stamina, which is fairly hard to describe until you go through it, is more/less unending. Driving is much more fun, relaxing, engaging, and exhilarating while on Cerebro.

The feeling of being 'in the zone' so to speak, is pretty much every moment of every day. Emotions are easier to face. You deal with things in a very collected manner, yet everything is easy to express and articulate. There are no low points at all. When you're sad (and trust me, I've had two MAJOR life events going on that have made stress levels at all-time highs right now), you're able to handle the situations with relative ease.

I have not done any performance testing as I wasn't interested in any of that. I am a contract technology trainer for a top-five financial institution and I've increased my daily rate by 28.8% all within the boundaries and ethical means to which we are allowed to bill them. It took a little legwork, but I never would have come up with the ability to put it all together exclusively on my own. So, that real-life test has been a very, very high positive. I also plan to resume a side business and have already seen a TON of plans come together that normally wouldn't... but more importantly, the plans are already being worked through on my end. Cerebro gives you the power to formulate ideas, thoughts, and methods in your head - and the ability / drive / fortitude to follow through with them in a meaningful fashion.

I think earlier on in this thread someone mentioned how it should be used for "sports doping" (related to driving / competing / etc) and that was a very good observation.

I do not cycle it and have used it since ... April? off and on. I started at 1mL/day and felt the anxiolytic effects nicely around the 1-2mL/day dose. but there is a marked, marked difference on the entire experience at 4-5mL/day. I went to 6mL/day once and felt so good that I backed it off to 5. That's a little counterintuitive, but I'm a fan of using the lowest dose possible to achieve the results that I want. That said, I may push higher to the 7-8mL/day range over the next few months.

Hope this helps. I have dosed three different methods - IV, IM, and subQ. IV hits the fastest, but these are still a little scary as I had no experience in IM administrations prior to trying. I have done hundreds of IM/SubQ injections and I don't feel that either is more advantageous than the other, but going IM will be much less likely to leave any bumps or marks that you may see with SubQ.

I buy only from Nootropic.eu. You can get insulin or other syringes at East Coast Medical Supply, or Hocks.com as well. I have only used insulin syringes up until this point and will be using 25g 1" 3cc going forward for IM administration.

i also just typed out this entire message in about six minutes, so apologies if it's a bit jumbled. I'm listening to advisors while in the middle of it. Oh, yes - multitasking - the whole "hack the Matrix" remark by RussianBear - spot on!!

[sunshinefrost]

a few notes about my experience with cerebrolysin:

RussianBear's experience and annotations about the compound are very accurate for me this far, minus the negatives. I have not had a single negative experience with it, but I also have not used it for nearly as long nor am I dosing as high as he was (mine @ 5mL/day nonstop vs his 10mL/day 4 days on, 4 days off).

Colors are richer, but not overwhelming. Brain stamina, which is fairly hard to describe until you go through it, is more/less unending. Driving is much more fun, relaxing, engaging, and exhilarating while on Cerebro.

The feeling of being 'in the zone' so to speak, is pretty much every moment of every day. Emotions are easier to face. You deal with things in a very collected manner, yet everything is easy to express and articulate. There are no low points at all. When you're sad (and trust me, I've had two MAJOR life events going on that have made stress levels at all-time highs right now), you're able to handle the situations with relative ease.

I have not done any performance testing as I wasn't interested in any of that. I am a contract technology trainer for a top-five financial institution and I've increased my daily rate by 28.8% all within the boundaries and ethical means to which we are allowed to bill them. It took a little legwork, but I never would have come up with the ability to put it all together exclusively on my own. So, that real-life test has been a very, very high positive. I also plan to resume a side business and have already seen a TON of plans come together that normally wouldn't... but more importantly, the plans are already being worked through on my end. Cerebro gives you the power to formulate ideas, thoughts, and methods in your head - and the ability / drive / fortitude to follow through with them in a meaningful fashion.

I think earlier on in this thread someone mentioned how it should be used for "sports doping" (related to driving / competing / etc) and that was a very good observation.

I do not cycle it and have used it since ... April? off and on. I started at 1mL/day and felt the anxiolytic effects nicely around the 1-2mL/day dose. but there is a marked, marked difference on the entire experience at 4-5mL/day. I went to 6mL/day once and felt so good that I backed it off to 5. That's a little counterintuitive, but I'm a fan of using the lowest dose possible to achieve the results that I want. That said, I may push higher to the 7-8mL/day range over the next few months.

Hope this helps. I have dosed three different methods - IV, IM, and subQ. IV hits the fastest, but these are still a little scary as I had no experience in IM administrations prior to trying. I have done hundreds of IM/SubQ injections and I don't feel that either is more advantageous than the other, but going IM will be much less likely to leave any bumps or marks that you may see with SubQ.

I buy only from Nootropic.eu. You can get insulin or other syringes at East Coast Medical Supply, or Hocks.com as well. I have only used insulin syringes up until this point and will be using 25g 1" 3cc going forward for IM administration.

i also just typed out this entire message in about six minutes, so apologies if it's a bit jumbled. I'm listening to advisors while in the middle of it. Oh, yes - multitasking - the whole "hack the Matrix" remark by RussianBear - spot on!!

I noticed the driving abilities as well. I'm on nsi as we speak but i'm back in cere as soon as my cycle is done.

[nefarious one]

I liked NSI189 on paper a lot. But I'm glad the group of you all did trial it because I would have wasted a fair amount of money on the stuff otherwise. I decided to forego the use of it as I really just don't need anything beyond Cerebro at this point.

I cannot speak highly enough of the compound. Life is so good - every day - because of cerebrolysin.

[nefarious one]

Another note - and I may follow up with more as time passes:

Cerebrolysin will enhance whatever you are already good at accomplishing. It gives you a tool, which puts your mindset in a place that seeks out other tools to accomplish what you are trying to achieve. Your points of view are much broader, much bigger than those around you. Stress is really not something that I know how to describe anymore, nor is anxiety.

anyway, back to "tools" - here's an example. You may have a particular skillset, or the desire to learn one. If you proceed with Cerebro, chances are that either a) you're going to become way better than you were before, even if you were at a fairly high level to begin with and/or b) you're going to acquire more skills / knowledge / whatever it is you need/want to acquire in order to get where you want to be. It's a form of relentless drive to reach goals. I can't state this enough.

I have been sleeping an average of 4.5 hours while on the stuff, but that's mostly related to my life's demands at the moment. My daughter is battling moderate anxiety and depression at the age of 9. 4.5-6hrs per day is really all that I have time to fit in for sleep, so thankfully the whole "brain endurance" upgrade has come in very handy.

[Krabby]

Edit: I think I will just make a thread about it.

Edited by Krabby, 07 September 2013 - 11:37 AM.

[nefarious one]

That response to me is a perfect example of how no matter what you do to enhance yourself, some people just get it and some people don't. Why would you even bother to go against the specs and do it in your nose? Why mess with tried and true which saves the experimental process and allows you to focus on doing things that are actually significant? Why reinvent the wheel at all?

I get it, I guess. I've been there. Here's to hoping your learning experience is this one. Shoot it and be done. Enjoy the amazing life that you will have when doing things properly. I say this with endearment, not to attack, but not to pull punches either. Please take it with no other meaning than that.

[spookytooth]

That response to me is a perfect example of how no matter what you do to enhance yourself, some people just get it and some people don't. Why would you even bother to go against the specs and do it in your nose? Why mess with tried and true which saves the experimental process and allows you to focus on doing things that are actually significant? Why reinvent the wheel at all?

I get it, I guess. I've been there. Here's to hoping your learning experience is this one. Shoot it and be done. Enjoy the amazing life that you will have when doing things properly. I say this with endearment, not to attack, but not to pull punches either. Please take it with no other meaning than that.

Cerebrolysin is very expensive and injecting it very uncomfortable. So going the intranasal route which should require a lower dose and less discomfort is a very natural thing to do.
Also what you probably didn't read is that this ROA is backed up by a study. Please gather some information first before being rude

[nefarious one]

1st statement - It's not uncomfortable at all. Use a 31 gauge insulin syringe and do it subQ. You won't feel a thing if you do it properly, and the efficacy is the same. I understand the cost side of it, but put the benefits next to the cost a), and b) put the fact that if you're worried about the cost of the stuff then you probably shouldn't be using it as you won't have the other necessary means / tools in life / etc to accomplish the things it will allow you to do.

2nd statement - I stand corrected, as I did not even know there was a study or another thread entirely. Apologies. But again, it wasn't meant as being rude, and again, please reference my statements in their entirety before assuming I am being rude - since I clearly wrote that I wasn't.

[nefarious one]

More comments:

Conflict resolution. It's a breeze now. It used to be something where I'd be the type to want to keep digging the nail deeper into the coffin and be very, very hard-pressed to admit to others that I was wrong (while all the while knowing I was). Self-destructive behaviour is also a thing of the past. Now, there are the facts, and those are kept in check without the emotional aspects of it. You don't have a numbed emotional sense at all - in fact, I'd argue that they're even better while on the stuff. It's just that (again) you're able to deal with things better.

Sensitivity to substances: I can only vouch for caffeine and ephedrine, as I don't do any recreational drugs. Boy, were they spot on about this one too. I've had two cups of coffee today and I am cracked out as if it were the first time I've ever had the stuff. Oddly, switching to decaf over the last few weeks has not induced a single headache. I was a typical 3-4x/day cappuccino / Cafe Ole guy at Starbucks. Now they all have to be decaf, but I still get them. I think I like this effect overall.

I have many things to do around the apartment as I just moved about a month ago - so will go do those instead of going out driving like I really, really want to.