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[xsiv1]

Keeps getting more interesting. I wonder if it can be imported into Canada.

[NootropicEU]

Keeps getting more interesting. I wonder if it can be imported into Canada.

Well, I have got many customers from Canada. None of the parcels were seized but some of them were kept in customs, inspected and eventually released (1-2 week delay).

[AwesomeName]

Keeps getting more interesting. I wonder if it can be imported into Canada.

Well, I have got many customers from Canada. None of the parcels were seized but some of them were kept in customs, inspected and eventually released (1-2 week delay).

What's the largest shipment that went through?

Customs here has problems sometimes with large shipments.

Typically more than 3 boxes of any substance at once or a 3 month supply.

[NootropicEU]

Keeps getting more interesting. I wonder if it can be imported into Canada.

Well, I have got many customers from Canada. None of the parcels were seized but some of them were kept in customs, inspected and eventually released (1-2 week delay).

What's the largest shipment that went through?

Customs here has problems sometimes with large shipments.

Typically more than 3 boxes of any substance at once or a 3 month supply.

I don't remember the largest order but the most popular order is 5x10ml - 4 boxes. I am sure I had larger than this.

[Babychris]

Does it have any benefits for young "healthy" male? To be honest healthy is not really apropriate since I had a real traumatic episode and suffer from kind of mania since childhood which turned lately in a serious depressive-anxiety general issue. I had some bad combos with MDMA too.

I have a serious academic year this year. I'm actually taking SJW, it helps but make a sort of headeache and dulling in my mind but that's better when I increase the dose. I wish I could give this to my father but he would never understand that his son wants to give to him a injection for his health.
therefore I'm more interessed for my personnal use but I'm pretty hopeless that this stuff could help for this kind of general issue since my memory is probably destroyed mainly from my state of mind (I think in some chronic anxiety episode that I have destroyed my essence who I am but I'm not sure though)

[sunshinefrost]

Does it have any benefits for young "healthy" male? To be honest healthy is not really apropriate since I had a real traumatic episode and suffer from kind of mania since childhood which turned lately in a serious depressive-anxiety general issue. I had some bad combos with MDMA too.

I have a serious academic year this year. I'm actually taking SJW, it helps but make a sort of headeache and dulling in my mind but that's better when I increase the dose. I wish I could give this to my father but he would never understand that his son wants to give to him a injection for his health.
therefore I'm more interessed for my personnal use but I'm pretty hopeless that this stuff could help for this kind of general issue since my memory is probably destroyed mainly from my state of mind (I think in some chronic anxiety episode that I have destroyed my essence who I am but I'm not sure though)

You are a good candidate for this. It will ease your anxiety and improve dullness.

[Nero]

Does anybody know if Cerebrolysin will appear in drug tests.
If you wanna be at your best in a interview.

[MangekyōPeter]

Does anybody know if Cerebrolysin will appear in drug tests.
If you wanna be at your best in a interview.

I am 99.9% sure it won't.

Edited by marekso, 25 October 2013 - 08:30 AM.

[Mr Matsubayashi]

Does anybody know if Cerebrolysin will appear in drug tests.
If you wanna be at your best in a interview.

I have tested the solution directly and my urine using drug test kits from ebay. I have also been company drug tested within a Cere cycle. All tests have been negative.

The company drug test had a weak negative for Benzos. RussianBear said that Cere had an effect on him similar to Benzos. The weak negative from the drug test shouldn't mean anything as even the faintest test band showing is meant to indicate no substance. This is just FYI.

[Mr Matsubayashi]

I don't consider Cere a good interview tool, a 10ml injection reduces my inhibitions too much and can make me too fun and too playful :p

Also, if you're concerned about Cere causing a positive on your drug test the concern surrounding this could affect your performance. Be confident in your abilities and your previous successes in life, be humble, flirt well, you will do fine.

[Sholrak]

Perhaps 5 ml. would fit perfect for an interview. I have to try this. The detectability of it should be minimal to impossible, depending on the country rules and availability of Cere. My opinion is it's so rare they won't find anything.



Ok, right now I'm trying to figure out what schedule is the adequate for this. We take as base, Cere effects are hard to distinguish while on it, and practically a phantom to search when some time passed.

Is there a possibility of that Cere gains still remain there but we just don't realize? For example, you took cere X days, and you fought at least a dozen of hard/demanding situations each day. It seems likely to me, you learned those situations, those configurations (of situation) and you stored that inside your brain's new synapses. But then, you need an aproximate or similar situation like the one you faced while on Cere to act different of how you would have acted before Cere? And even if that's true, you wouldn't realize a change has been made in that portion of you.

I'm wondering which strategy is best for this: shock doses least frequently vs. low dose chronically? 5-10 ml in the monthly course, or maybe take 1-5 ml in a most continuous schedule?

According to my experience, it's effects are proportional to dose, linearly. So 5 ml is like and important mind upgrade, while lower doses would be an upgrade, more "terrenal".

Last time I took it, I observed, high doses had an advantage of letting your mind literally travel much more fast, comprehend better everything surround you, but the disadvantage was, a shorter duration of the cycle, hence, less days with their awakening and sleeping times influenced by Cere.

To clear, maybe doing 5-10 ml. daily, will you pile much more the benefits (despite a greater learning rate) in less days and doing ie. 1-3 ml, you will last the double time with it and all those sleeping nights and fresh awakenings will be more positive? Is more less or not with Cerebrolysin? Hard question to ask, but worthwhile investigating that.

Edited by Sholrak, 27 October 2013 - 12:54 PM.

[Nero]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I'm going to go with the 5ml dosage.

It's hard to say what's really in Cerebrolysin.
Look at the whole DS CRAZE scandal. It contains methamphetamine-like compounds. We take nootropics and supplements without second thought of what's exactly in them.

[Sholrak]

It has been said many times. The peptide-protein fraction of Cerebrolysin is unknown. The aminoacid one is known :

asparagine (N), methionine (M), glutamic acid (E), valine (V), proline (P), arginine ( R ), alanine (A), cysteine ( C ), phenylalanine (F), glutamine (Q), glycine (G), threonine (T), isoleucine (I), tryptophane (W), tyrosine (Y), threonine (T), serine (S), histidine (H), aspartic acid (D), lysine (K), leucine (L)

That should be responsible for the nutrition property of CRB, the peptide part should own the therapeutic properties.

[Heh]

So it all boils down to the following: would you recommend Cerebrolysin for a healthy adult who usually doesn't respond to supplements/medication? Anyone care to answer this question? I'm just trying to get an answer before I invest hundreds in getting this supplement. Will there even be a discernible effect?

[Sholrak]

Well yes, you'll see a discernible effect. It's a new class of effect you probably haven't seen before so it can take time to realize what it does. Some got it the first days and others had to wait a week+ to see a difference. But you'll eventually see it, and you'll know what it does when you see it. It's worth the price in my opinion and is one of the few drugs that makes me think 'I would use this every day of my life without exception if I could'. Does it answers your doubts about its efficacy?

I don't consider myself a healthy individual, and I bet it should have a positive effect even on healthy ones. If this doesn't work or you don't notice anything at all, there are few chances anything else can help you (aka you have a privileged brain physiology/health).

What are you aiming to treat?

Edited by Sholrak, 29 October 2013 - 11:55 PM.

[5IMON]

Is there anything better than Cerebrolysin at the moment?

[Braziliandude]

Hello everybody , Im an ex finasteride user and I can say this drugs has fucked me from head to toll, Harvard now is trying to find out what this evil medication does, and I am using cerebrolysin to try to fix my brain, aqnd so far is working amazingly, does anyone here knows how I can fix my brain or even the hormone imbalances??? propeciahelp.com is the web forum about the dangers of propecia...

[Babychris]

You say it works amazingly, so why do you want to fix something that has been fixed? It's not a very therapeutic approach be carefull.

By the way I'm very motivated to give a try to cerebrolysin since I'm thinking that my mental issue could be related to a hippocampal MDMA-induced dommage.
Anyway I don't know if I could try the IM way not that it affraid me (never done it though) but to hide this from my parents would be a bit akward. if someone know a oral supplier I would be extatic, but to be honest my real concern
is more about how efficious it is if we compare it to the classic route, because if it has not exactly the same proprerty on brain regeneration I will force myself to inject me this promising stuff. Thank's

Edited by Babychris, 02 November 2013 - 08:15 PM.

[Sholrak]

Is there anything better than Cerebrolysin at the moment?

Does it matter? Who knows the trials with new and revolutionary drugs taking place now. Probably there's something better, we just don't know it.
Stacking it with some NGF improving compounds like Lion's Mane and Pregnenolone could give a better effect. You might ask instead if it will help you. This is not competition, you have to try what works for you and at the same time know what are you taking and why.


The IM route doesn't seem so annoying. My first injection was one of the cleanest and easiest of them. Thus, I killed my fear and did it. I wanted to know what that Cerebrolysin was like so that gave me the motivation to prepare myself for the moment of my 1st injection. I had ordered it and while waiting for it, the days passed out thinking, in a few days, I will have to IM myself.

[Babychris]

where did you order it ? How many dose did you take and of course what were the effect on you ?

[Nero]

Does anybody know is dorsogluteal a poor injection site for absorbtion?

[Sholrak]

Absorbtion would be the same. Be careful with hitting a nerve or vein in there.

[SLR2009]

Hey guys,

When I was 15 I got brain damage from abusing the inhalant hair spray, I've been clean for 13 years but the terrible effects have remained. Will Cerebrolysm reverse the brain damage which I've been suffering with (vision impairment like being very drunk, memory impairment, cognitive impairment, mood swings, anxiety, depression) for 13 years?

Thanks

[JASOG888]

No guarantees, but in my opinion, Cere would be your best bet.

[Perception-Is-Reality]

I'm a 185lb 17 year old male and the only thing i take regularly that is worth noting is adderall/memantine with no brain damage and a healthy lifestyle (food/sleep/exercise, although i could be a lot less stressed). Last month i took my last injection of a one month cycle of cerebrolysin 5 ml for 5 days than 2 days off, repeat for 4 weeks total. Overall I felt vary little subjectively and consider cere (for me) to be of low efficacy. It was definitely wakefulness promoting and it might have given me a verbal edge (the verbal edge was most prominent at the beginning so theres placebo effect involved). The first 2 days i did subcutanous injections but all the rest were im, usually on the thigh (i have huge thighs). The inject site itched the first time but after that nothing (well IM injections sometimes hurt a bit). My favorite effect was it had a slight mood boost always, and my mood wasn't worse on the off weekend days. This was espically appriciated because the mood boost wasn't due to a dopamine boost, If i want a mood boost and all i have is stims i can get it and pay for it later (dopamine desensitiation/downregulation). With cere the mood boost is continual. The down side of this is that the mood boost was (besides the first few times--placebo) weak-moderate. When somthing that would normally make me feel like shit happened, I would still vary much feel like shit. Its not a ''cattle prod in the ass'' just out of bed and work drug like adderall or a mood booster like noopept, it just has very modest effect. In conclusion its a large price for a small effect (unless you're rich).

[SLR2009]

Thanks. Where can I purchase it and what dosage should I take? How much does it cost? I would need somebody to inject it into my body. Any side effects? Also how long do I do this for (4weeks)? I currently take Zyprexa and Effexor, will that be an issue? Should I go off of the anti-depressants before starting this?

[SLR2009]

Anyone? please help.

[JASOG888]

I get my cere from Nootropic.eu. I usually do 5ml/day for a month, abstaining on the weekends. Then take a break for a month or two. I inject it myself into my quads. I really do not enjoy self IM injections, but endure it for the benefits. The first time I injected it was a bit stressful, but I did a lot of research before proceeding and took it slow. I have been taking Zoloft and Wellbutrin for several years. I do not stop taking the anti-depressants while I'm using Cere. I have tried Cere without the anti-depressants, but it takes a while for the anti-depressants to start working initially and a while for them to wear off. Stopping for a 1 month cycle doesn't seem to make a difference. I have considered a longer cycle without the anti-depressants, but I haven't yet been able to do that financially. My goal is to someday be off the anti-depressants completely.

[Nero]

Most of the answers you need are already in the thread.
Though the size of the thread can turn some people off.

[Sholrak]

A good reminder to have in mind, by russianBEAR:

Well, if you guys are still interested in hearing all about Cerebrolysine and how it compares to other similar drugs...

I live in Russia so we have the widest possible variety of nootropics available mostly over the counter, and mostly without prescription (pharmacies are all about cash here).

Basically I've done pretty much every "smart drug" you can name both as part of some kind of a "monthly cycle/course" alone, as well as in a variety of combinations.

As far as Cerebrolysine goes, yeah it's expensive as **** and it's also very effective. I've worked an incredibly stressful job where you have to work very very fast under enormous amounts of pressure, and one even small mistake can lead to you being fired or worse. Basically doing something that takes 10-15 minutes in 30 seconds was the absolute norm in the workplace at the time (24-hour television news, working in the directors gallery where the stuff airs from, what can I say it was crazy, glad I moved to a lower-stress department).

I was taking up to 10 ml of cerebrolysine daily at work though I/M injections, easily for a good 6 months if not more. (Usually in 2 injections, although I've shot 10ml straight up before in one large syringe) Since I worked in 4-day shifts, I'd usually go 4 days on and then 4 days off to cool off my neurons That easily allowed me to handle all the stresses, and I was one of the best at that particular job. Despite having abused illegal drugs in the past and being a frequent cannabis smoker, I experienced little to no "stoner burnout" and was able to concentrate and perform tasks faster than most of my colleagues at the same experience level. After a long 12-hour work day, after which a normal brain turns to mush, I was still fresh and eager to go out with friends/ see girls etc, while otherwise I'd be drained and only wanting to sleep.

So instead of rambling on further, let me just break down some effects and side-effects, short and long term:

-This stuff has a MARKED anti-depressant effect. You basically feel like back in the happiest moments of your childhood. Everyone has had one of those days when they're just "on fire" and "on top of the game". With Cerebrolysine, pretty much every day is like that - you're not overly happy or vegetated like off standard anti-depressants, but you're "on point" at whatever you do. Stuff like your subconscious and conscious fears all go right out of the window, and it has a bit of a socially-inhibiting effect too.

-If you thought weed gets you the munchies, wait till you try this stuff. When you first start on this cycle, you get hungry as a SAVAGE. I usually eat just enough to be full, not overly gorged, but this stuff had me tearing up huge meals and not even feeling incapacitated by everything I just ate. I'd attribute this to the fact that with all the additional peptides and stuff, your body needs more nutrition. Sort of like adding B-vitamins to stuff like Pyritinol or even good old 5-HTP.

-Cerebrolysine helps alleviate most, if not all symptoms of post-intoxication syndrome for illicit drugs. I once gave my friend a shot after his most recent cocaine binge and he turned from a pale shadow who was about to pass out back to his normal self - energetic, enthusiastic, and motivated. Plus his foul mood and edginess were completely gone. It also seems to ease the alcohol-related hangover better than some other substances (although many nootropics are much better for that IMO since they're GABA-active). My other friend also liked taking it as a "corrector agent" for other nootropics/supplements, claiming it helped alleviate certain unwanted effects of piracetam, while preventing one from overloading on one particular amino acid too much. I personally avoid ALL other substances when doing cerebrolysine. It simply overshadows them all for me.

-They definitely put some kind of a painkiller in there. Shooting cortexin (which is similar, but I like it alot less, as it "vegetates" and sedates me too much to where I'm more mentally capable, but simply don't care) without a novacaine solution is literally a huge pain in the rear, while shooting straight cerebrolysine into my tiny tricep with a huge needle made my whole arm go numb for a short time, like an anastetic would.

-I've measured my blood pressure several times before and after the injections, and there is a slight blood pressure elevation. If you inject too fast, the heart rate jumps and you may sweat profusely. However it gives you a nice sort of a "rush" to where you feel very relaxed, but not incapacitated or drugged by any stretch of imagination. The headaches are there, but are very slight, and usually start about 2-3 hours after the injection.

-The long-term effects aren't so pleasant. There is an increasing feeling of "mounting personal hell" as I like to call it. Basically, all the negative traits of one's character seem to be unnaturally emphasized and underlined in your mind, while the positives seem little and insignificant. It doesn't really manifest itself in a severe form to others, but you may feel "grumpy" and "dissatisfied" even when you seem to be razor-sharp mentally. A good comparision would be some rich spoiled kid who has everything throwing tantrums and breaking stuff, just because he is rich and spoiled. Several of my friends reported very similar mental side effects. This is what initially led me to stop taking it by "tapering down" (I don't think it's a good method by the way, but since I was doin it daily for a while I decided for a slower descent). A .5 ml less every day for several days, then a week at 1ml and then 0.5 and then you're shooting colored water for placebo effects

- Some people report a HUGE boost in their sexual activity. I noticed only a slight boost

- When you're off the cerebrolysine, you feel like it's a bad day for no reason (see above having a top of your game day for no reason lol). I didn't notice any significant negative long-term effects on my cognitive processes. On the contrary I seem to be able to concentrate better at any time, without taking any substances, or even after smoking a lot of weed. I'm now able to "zone in" on something more completely and do better at focusing.

-This stuff has very strong and powerful overall effects, it is the most effective out of injectable nootropics/smart drugs that I've tried. Cortexin doesn't even come close, and various Cerebrolysine derivatives (we ahve a Cerebrolysate here) are nothin more than cheap imitations.

I've decided for another mini-cycle just now, about 3 years after that last lengthy episode. I'm sticking to what the doctors here recommend: 5ml every OTHER day. Seems to be the correct dosage and schedule.

I hope it doesn't sound too much like promo for the Austrian pharmaceuticals company which makes this stuff. It's really not somethin you want to mess around with if you don't know what you're doing.

Well all this is true as well.

Edited by Sholrak, 13 November 2013 - 04:45 PM.