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#1 unbreakable

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 01:14 PM


What do you think about the combination of Phenylethylamine & low dose Selegiline?

Sustained antidepressant effect of PEA replacement.

Sabelli H, Fink P, Fawcett J, Tom C.

Rush University and the Center for Creative Development, Chicago, Illinois, USA.

Phenylethylamine (PEA), an endogenous neuroamine, increases attention and activity in animals and has been shown to relieve depression in 60% of depressed patients. It has been proposed that PEA deficit may be the cause of a common form of depressive illness. Fourteen patients with major depressive episodes that responded to PEA treatment (10-60 mg orally per day, with 10 mg/day selegiline to prevent rapid PEA destruction) were reexamined 20 to 50 weeks later. The antidepressant response had been maintained in 12 patients. Effective dosage did not change with time. There were no apparent side effects. PEA produces sustained relief of depression in a significant number of patients, including some unresponsive to the standard treatments. PEA improves mood as rapidly as amphetamine but does not produce tolerance.




L-deprenyl plus L-phenylalanine
in the treatment of depression
by
Birkmayer W, Riederer P, Linauer W, Knoll J
J Neural Transm 1984; 59(1):81-7

ABSTRACT
The antidepressive efficacy of 1-deprenyl (5-10 mg daily) plus 1-phenylalanine (250 mg/day) has been evaluated in 155 unipolar depressed patients. Both oral and intravenous administration showed beneficial effects in 90% of outpatients and 80.5% of inpatients. It is concluded that this combined treatment has a potent antidepressive action based on the accumulation of 1-phenylethylamine in the brain.



#2 bgwithadd

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 04:34 PM

Didn't work out so well for me. Might do better with phelylalanine because it will absorb slower and be more consistent, but phelylaline is at least somewhat neurotoxic so keep that in mind....

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#3 FunkOdyssey

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:00 PM

I think this one is better in theory than in practice.

#4 imarobot

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Posted 30 March 2009 - 05:59 PM

For me, the combo had a wonderful placebo effect: three days after starting, it stopped working. I tried multiple times after that, but I was too jaded for the placebo effect to return.

#5 Barksdale

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Posted 17 April 2009 - 07:54 PM

Does PEA really work? Been taking it for two days now and I feel nothing..

#6 meat250

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Posted 19 April 2009 - 08:47 PM

I did this same thing afew months back and had GREAT results with it. i took some of each(cannot remember the amounts) as i was told it is great for endurance as i was on my way to the gym....well after a 15 minute ride, i founds myself in the parking lot talking to my wife on the phone because i couldnt go into the building, it was almosty better than a MDMA type of feeling, just felt great and i felt like i was floating, best legal high i ever had in my life!!!! then i tried to do it with my wife later that night, and the next day to no avail...so its a tricky combo, also i thinik it works best when you are stressed and not in a good mood to start with....ive tried it 3x after that and never got the results of m,y 1st go around...

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 01:12 AM

I did this same thing afew months back and had GREAT results with it. i took some of each(cannot remember the amounts) as i was told it is great for endurance as i was on my way to the gym....well after a 15 minute ride, i founds myself in the parking lot talking to my wife on the phone because i couldnt go into the building, it was almosty better than a MDMA type of feeling, just felt great and i felt like i was floating, best legal high i ever had in my life!!!! then i tried to do it with my wife later that night, and the next day to no avail...so its a tricky combo, also i thinik it works best when you are stressed and not in a good mood to start with....ive tried it 3x after that and never got the results of m,y 1st go around...

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Sometimes I take PEA before my workouts, it helps me a lot :) PEA + MAO-B inhibitor can make you feel extremely euphoric. But you have to be careful, if PEA is taken with MAO-B inhibitor you should lower the dose of PEA. However, I believe that it is not very healthy mix :) Does PEA have any long term benefits?

#8 AaronCW

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Posted 21 April 2009 - 02:16 AM

Not recommended. I would advise against it; there is little or no basis for determining an appropriate dose for the combination, if there is such a thing.

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#9 stayin_alive

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 01:59 PM

What do you think about the combination of Phenylethylamine & low dose Selegiline?



I've been doing this (Dep & PEA) for about 10 days.

I began at 5 mg deprenyl/day and approximately 20 mg PEA and worked up to 5 mg dep BID and 60 mg PEA total in a day.

I could tell I was more motivated, a bit speedier and generally in a better mood. But I didn't know how much until one day I crashed which I think was caused by another agent. Anyhow, that crash provided an opportunity to contrast and reflect and observe more objectively the following day. I should say I hadn't crashed before or since and I really don't feel "fuck yeah, that's the shit." For me it's far more subtle than that.

So far I'm very pleased with this combo. I wasn't looking for speed, I was looking for a slight mood booster.




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