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[OpaqueMind]

What are you guys's dosing schedules like with noopept?

ie every day, every other day, 2 on 1 off, 3 on 1 off etc.

[SummerUser]

Maybe I was reckless, but I went from my experience with 30mg (1g is just a 33 times stronger, no big deal haha).
Powder is quite sticky, with bitter taste. I have no idea if it could have been heat damaged or something.
I'm a responder to piracetam, so I think it was just a wrong supplier.
P.S. I quit coffee today (my noopept experiment was yesterday) without any side effects (from 6 espresso cups per day).
Could it be accounted to noopept??? I had in plans to do so for a long time, but today just seemed like a good day to do it.
I was thinking about buying 10g because the price difference between 2/5g and 10g isn't big.

Well, thanks for doing a slightly extreme human toxicology study I've definitely never taken a gram of that stuff in one go before.

Some people who respond well to piracetam don't get much of a subjective response to Noopept. But I think the lack of caffeine withdrawals shows it's having some sort of (maybe) beneficial effect. I noticed total relief from caffeine withdrawals while taking it also. Maybe you're just experiencing the beneficial effects on brain function but lacking the subjective experience.

Correct me if I'm wrong guys, but unless there are drastically different ways that different people metabolize this stuff it should have the same protective and other effects on the brain even in the absence of subjective effects, right?

I'm quite comfortable with 20g+ doses of piracetam, so I thought that 1g of noopept could't be so bad. I think it did something, because I've yet to see a downside to quiting coffee. I'm just my normal self.
You maybe right that I only couldn't notice anything subjectively. I'm too familiar with piracetam and I was waiting for similar feeling, but it could be that noopept is simply too subtle in my situation. At least I want to think so. It costed 16$, hehe.
I was reading today on russian sites and a lot of people with asthenia use noopept without getting any nootropic effect at all. They go 1-3 months course and get a positive results with their condition. So it maybe depends on the brain and some people simply don't feel a thing even when the drug is actually working. It could be the new ALCAR, a good stuff for longevity and brain health overall. I'll do some real experement within a few months, when I start studies again. We'll see how I'll react to it then.

Edited by SummerUser, 12 July 2012 - 05:43 PM.

[protoject]

What are you guys's dosing schedules like with noopept?

ie every day, every other day, 2 on 1 off, 3 on 1 off etc.

Every day, between 25-35 mg a day [I tried to measure it all out to 30 mg but sometimes it was a little less or a little more and i didn't finick].

This is day 5, I'm not sure what to say yet really. It definitely has some sort of effect. Somewhat stimulant-like but more subtle and less toxic-feeling. But I haven't felt a drastic mind-clearing or removal of depression and anxiety like some people note. But i do kinda feel somewhat "back to my old self". I mean, I don't feel I'm fully back to my old self, but I can at least relate to where I was before, years ago, which is usually a hard task for me.

[OpaqueMind]

This is day 5, I'm not sure what to say yet really. It definitely has some sort of effect. Somewhat stimulant-like but more subtle and less toxic-feeling. But I haven't felt a drastic mind-clearing or removal of depression and anxiety like some people note. But i do kinda feel somewhat "back to my old self". I mean, I don't feel I'm fully back to my old self, but I can at least relate to where I was before, years ago, which is usually a hard task for me.

Thanks for the reply man... Seems like 20-30mg daily total is the general consensus.

When you say 'back to your old self', may I ask what happened that affected you?

If you notice a positive difference after only 5 days then this seems promising, considering the effects are accumulative.

[OpaqueMind]

I vaguely recall seeing in another thread that you might have overdone it on the drugs a bit when you were younger... If so I am in exactly the same boat and looking for nootropics that might help me re-normalise my cognitive abilities. Perhaps key to this will be noots that act on BDNF in some way, helping to rebuild parts of the brain that were I imagine severely disfigured by the chemical abuse and often depression that comes alongside it.

I have wondered why it seems some people can abuse the fuck out of their bodies and minds with all manner of drugs and still stay relatively intact whereas others slowly unravel. Aside from genetic factors I think it might have something to do with the mindset in which you consume drugs. If you take them to party and have a great time then you probably enjoy life quite a bit and your brain functions healthily, replenishing itself and making up for the abuses you hurl at it. On the other hand if you take drugs as a form of escapism then that addiction is probably co-morbid with depression and therefore your brain isn't producing enough BDNF to keep up with the rate at which you're decimating its chemical pathways. Hmmm maybe.

I noticed somewhere that noopept is supposed to be helpful for those who have suffered brain damage. Does anyone think that the criteria of brain damage could include a fairly drug-ravaged brain, or would it be limited to physical/other traumas?

[deeptrance]

I'm new to noopept, have taken it one week. I started low (10mg as per instructions on the packet I received from a source on Amazon), and experienced no effect. I bumped it up to 20, still nothing. Bear in mind I had not heard that it could take up to 3 weeks for it to be effective, I had only read that people felt it within hours but I presume that is at high doses.

On the 5th: day I took 20mg, then another 10mg about 4 hours later, then 20mg more 2 hours later.
Wow.

When it hit me, at about 4 PM, I felt the sky open up, my mind cleared, I could see and hear and think and feel more intensely. It felt the way I did many years ago before I went through a period of alcohol and drug abuse and then had 2 concussions. I've been searching for something to restore my "original self" and this was it.

I am now taking 30mg with breakfast and it kicks in about 2 hours after I take it. I have to see how it will affect me over time, but apparently its potency may strengthen and I might be able to reduce the dose.

After breakfast I had a headache and some nausea this morning, but I was fine within a half hour.

Here's something strange: I find myself automatically getting things done but having no memory of doing them. I don't know if this is good or bad. For example, I thought I had left my cell phone in my car a few minutes ago and then discovered I had already brought it in. I have NO memory of doing that. One perspective on this is that we really do not NEED to be aware of such things and it's an efficient use of cognitive resources to make it automatic behavior. But on the flip side, it could lead to bad things if we automatically do something harmful without being aware of it.

Noopept makes me crazy. Really crazy and angry. Gets me motivated though. Sadly comes with a deep seated loathing for all mankind.

Hmm now that you mention it, it does kind of make me a little schizo, but only in that it puts me on a mission to show everyone I'm better and I that have enough security in some internal teamwork to do it!

No distinct anger or hatred tho.

Anger is probably the wrong word. Very, very, very highly irritable, is probably a better way of putting it. I become a bit of a haughty tyrant that doesn't suffer fools.

I have felt more irritable and anger as well. HOWEVER, along with this I am feeling other emotions more intensely. Maybe the emotions we already feel are heightened. If you're bottling up anger, then maybe noopept releases that so you can see it and do something with it. I have felt anger, empathy, sadness, and joy. This morning, I cried while watching a tragic news story for the first time since my concussion 3 years ago. I consider this to be a very positive thing. It is especially positive because it does not linger. I don't carry my anger into resentment, it just comes and goes with the moment. I didn't indulge in the sadness of the gang rape of 7 or more young girls at a Christian youth camp in Mexico, I just responded to it with great empathy and then quickly moved on to whatever was happening in the next moment. This is how I want to live, in the moment. Maybe that's why I didn't know I brought my phone in, we don't need to remember every detail of our lives and carry those memories forward. We need to live in the present.

I'm a pimp for noopept, but I am using great caution in recommending it to others until I know more about its hazards.

[deeptrance]

...looking for nootropics that might help me re-normalise my cognitive abilities.

...I noticed somewhere that noopept is supposed to be helpful for those who have suffered brain damage. Does anyone think that the criteria of brain damage could include a fairly drug-ravaged brain, or would it be limited to physical/other traumas?

My experience so far (see post above) has been that it is helpful for both purposes. I have along history of drug and alcohol abuse, and then (10 days after quitting drugs and alcohol), I had a massive brain injury that almost killed me. Since then I have felt like I have permanent brain damage. Now I'm experiencing breakthrough consciousness like I haven't known in many years. It *feels* like my neurons are rapidly reconnecting and re-configuring themselves.

Time will tell if this is good, bad, or neutral. There are some neural paths that we're better off losing, and I hope that noopept doesn't restore them. But so far the noopept has greatly diminished my interest in "testing" other novel compounds that have more pleasurable effects. Pleasure is destructive if sought to the exclusion of other worthy pursuits.

This is day 5, I'm not sure what to say yet really. It definitely has some sort of effect. Somewhat stimulant-like but more subtle and less toxic-feeling. But I haven't felt a drastic mind-clearing or removal of depression and anxiety like some people note. But i do kinda feel somewhat "back to my old self". I mean, I don't feel I'm fully back to my old self, but I can at least relate to where I was before, years ago, which is usually a hard task for me.

That's exactly what I've experienced. Restoring what has been lost. And it's a stimulant. On the day when I took a 3rd dose in the afternoon, I was unable to get to sleep that night. I even felt some anxiety and physical discomfort. That was on a total of about 50mg total for the day. I'm settling on 30mg at breakfast and will keep it there for a while. As for mind-clearing, I've only experienced it during the peak of the effects, which indicates a shorter half-life than most psychotropic pharmaceuticals.

A negative side effect? --- Yesterday I went to a group meditation and could not quiet my mind. I was all over the place, with far less inner stillness than I usually experience during meditation.

My dreams last night were absolutely INSANE!!!!!!!!!!! I was hyper-aware of them and remember them clearly, which is rare for me. One of them was so cosmic, it felt like a spiritual experience. I don't know if I like this or not because it felt a bit psychotic. I think it was a result of taking too much and too late in the day.

Edited by deeptrance, 16 July 2012 - 05:35 PM.

[deeptrance]

I got a synthesis quote from China, $1700/1kg, I intend to get it synthesized when I get a full time job.

Wow, 33,000 doses at 30mg per day... that would last a lifetime if you started taking it at birth.
Slightly more than 5 cents a dose. Wow. Want an investment partner?

I've been taking 30mg every morning before breakfast and it's a miracle drug for me. Clear thinking, great mood, faster response times, and an ability to synthesize information and see the "big picture." The down side of this is that I now find most people's way of thinking and responding to life to be strange and ineffective. Like, "Why do you think that way? It makes no sense!"

[protoject]

Here's something strange: I find myself automatically getting things done but having no memory of doing them. I don't know if this is good or bad. For example, I thought I had left my cell phone in my car a few minutes ago and then discovered I had already brought it in. I have NO memory of doing that.

hmm< that's so interesting. I have been getting that same effect. Also i literally almost cried watching this TV show/ news thing the other night which is very odd for me.. I like never cry in the past 4 years or so. and i understand what you mean by feeling your emotions in the moment.

[deeptrance]

I have wondered why it seems some people can abuse the fuck out of their bodies and minds with all manner of drugs and still stay relatively intact whereas others slowly unravel. Aside from genetic factors I think it might have something to do with the mindset in which you consume drugs.

I think this is an important and complex question with a lot of answers. For one thing, we abusers all get into drugs/alcohol with a different set of environmental factors in addition to genetics. A lot of people, maybe the majority, use mind-altering chemicals to self-medicate their own mental and emotional health problems. Or physical pain. So we might have had some abnormal wiring to begin with, or our neurotransmitters were out of balance. Our metabolisms are all different, we absorb and process and excrete chemicals in unique ways. I have chronic low blood sodium, and almost died from it at least 3 times.

On top of these baseline differences, there is diet and lifestyle. We all know the standard line on this, we need to eat well and exercise, do things we enjoy, have friends, meaningful work, etc. I've always had an extremely healthy diet and a fairly good attitude but had really bad depression, anxiety, chronic pain and chronic self-hate. It was a weird contrast between my happy exterior and my private world of self-loathing and misery. So I drugged and drank myself into oblivion until I had to stop. But all the time when I was abusing drugs and booze, I was eating really well. Like, I was crashing on friends' couches and could barely afford to pay for food and gas, but I still managed to eat fresh veggies, fruit, salmon, whole grains and such. And I always did eat. So my neurons were well fed and this probably helped prevent damage.

What crushed my brain most was that I had 2 massive concussions right after I stopped drinking. Irony? I got heavily into supplements and noots as a result and have tried almost everything there is. I take at least 30 different herbs and supps right now and it's hard to tell what's helping and what isn't but there is no question that noopept is the most powerful thing I've taken out of all of them. But I never did take suggested doses of piracetam because it seemed freakishly unnatural to pound ounces of a synthetic chem, and it's too damned expensive. I can easily afford the noopept to get great results.

I'm also taking a highly concentrated form of Shisandrin A (sold as "Focus Dirt), choline bitartrate, inositol, bacopa monnieri, various amino acids, some vitamins and minerals, ginkgo, theanine, picamilon, phenibut (small doses!), and a bunch of other stuff. Maybe noopept is working with other things I'm taking, I dunno. I'm about to start selling capsules containing combinations of these things and am using myself and a few friends as guinea pigs to see the various effects of these supplement cocktails.

Bacopa and ginkgo are backed by a lot of scientific research but I don't "feel" them. As drug abusers, we might tend to seek an experience of change that is drug-like, an instant fix. I keep taking these things because of the evidence that they work. Noopept does have a slight drug-like feeling because it puts me in a noticeably better and more energized mood. I've been much more productive than I was before, and have suddently started doing things like mowing the lawn and cleaning my room, which is dope for a single male who lives like a slob most of the time.

I noticed somewhere that noopept is supposed to be helpful for those who have suffered brain damage. Does anyone think that the criteria of brain damage could include a fairly drug-ravaged brain, or would it be limited to physical/other traumas?

Yeah, that's why I got into my history of having both types of brain damage, but I do think the concussions were worse. I was never a hard core drug user although I did go through my final summer of drinking in such a non-stop blackout that I don't remember it. I house-sat for close friends for a week and they told me I trashed their house and broke a bunch of stuff. I have no memory of that. I don't know what sort of long-term damage that causes but it's not exactly a brain-brightening experience to be blacked out for 3 months.

The good news I can report, for those who have any sort of brain damage, is that with time and diligence you really can help your brain to recover. New neural connections form. Also, there is a very positive side to having some types of brain damage --- you get a new start. You can literally choose how to wire yourself this time. Create new memories, ditch the ones that aren't helpful to you. I cannot relate to that guy who drank and drugged and was depressed and anxious all the time. I feel like that was a guy in a book I read. I feel bad for him. It doesn't feel like that was me. But I had the benefit of having a big chunk of my brain changed by bouncing my head off of hard objects. Don't try this at home! I feel very fortunate. For me, I believe there was a kind of "spiritual" aspect to it. I don't believe in a "Daddy in the sky" type of God, but i do believe that we are a lot more than we usually think we are. We have the power to change our minds in radical ways, through strong intention, determination, and desire. Believe you can change. It really helps. But don't count on changing the way you think you will. I've always been surprised by the results I get from my intentions and "prayers" so to speak. Change comes in surprising ways that are more effective than anything I could have schemed with my limited powers of logic.

[SummerUser]

I'm going to try noopept one more time. I've bought 1g from nootrabiolabs this time. My plan is to do 15mg/day for two weeks.
I've found this ad on the net today, looks interesting:

Coming soon from CTD Labs....NOOPEPT. The game has changed...Be Limitless! http://fb.me/1YD6HsOkT

I'll post after I'm done with my 1g Have a nice day/night!

Edited by SummerUser, 11 August 2012 - 11:12 AM.

[SummerUser]

I've found this post on reddit today:

You are probably over-dosing. The powder's mass is unevenly distributed. Two "chunks" of the same size can vary by up to 300% weight.
Honestly though, if you aren't noticing any immediate side effects then overdosing isn't a big deal in the short term. There are a few ways to dose more accurately without a scale though.
You can throw all 10g's in a coffee grinder. That breaks it up into a fine and evenly distributed powder (you may have to do this in more than one go, depending on the coffee grinder).
Then you can eyeball and separate that powder into halves, then that half into halves, and so on. Like this... 10g = two piles of 5g.. 5g = 2 piles of 2.5g... 2.5g = 2 x 1.25g one more time will give you just around 600mg.
You can mix that ~600mg with alcohol. It mixes really well in alcohol or propylene glycol, but alcohol is easier to get a hold of (40% ethyl-alcohol of course like vodka, whiskey, whatever).
A 1.5oz shot glass has about 45ml in it. Use a shot glass to measure the liquid and add as much of a dilution as you want. Make it stronger for a sublingual tincture.
Any variation of this will work. Whatever it takes to get more accurate dosing. Buying a scale for 25 bucks would probably be an easier option. Or just buying the 10mg capsules from ebay.

Has anyone tried to make a mixture with noopept? What if I buy some 30ml ginkgo extract from iHerb and mix it with my 1g noopept. I've calculated that it'll be around 1mg noopept per drop.
It's a real pain to measure noopept.

Edited by SummerUser, 11 August 2012 - 11:19 AM.

[Major Legend]

how the hell are people measuring out such tiny doses? sounds like something worth trying.

[Michael Campbell]

how the hell are people measuring out such tiny doses? sounds like something worth trying.

I use this: http://goo.gl/XqXX5

[manic_racetam]

I've found this post on reddit today:

You are probably over-dosing. The powder's mass is unevenly distributed. Two "chunks" of the same size can vary by up to 300% weight.
Honestly though, if you aren't noticing any immediate side effects then overdosing isn't a big deal in the short term. There are a few ways to dose more accurately without a scale though.
You can throw all 10g's in a coffee grinder. That breaks it up into a fine and evenly distributed powder (you may have to do this in more than one go, depending on the coffee grinder).
Then you can eyeball and separate that powder into halves, then that half into halves, and so on. Like this... 10g = two piles of 5g.. 5g = 2 piles of 2.5g... 2.5g = 2 x 1.25g one more time will give you just around 600mg.
You can mix that ~600mg with alcohol. It mixes really well in alcohol or propylene glycol, but alcohol is easier to get a hold of (40% ethyl-alcohol of course like vodka, whiskey, whatever).
A 1.5oz shot glass has about 45ml in it. Use a shot glass to measure the liquid and add as much of a dilution as you want. Make it stronger for a sublingual tincture.
Any variation of this will work. Whatever it takes to get more accurate dosing. Buying a scale for 25 bucks would probably be an easier option. Or just buying the 10mg capsules from ebay.

Has anyone tried to make a mixture with noopept? What if I buy some 30ml ginkgo extract from iHerb and mix it with my 1g noopept. I've calculated that it'll be around 1mg noopept per drop.
It's a real pain to measure noopept.

If you're dealing with 1 gram the above would likely work for 100 doses. I think it is a pretty bad idea if you are trying to eyeball 10 grams and splitting it in half again and again.. not accurate enough with that larger quantity. But if you were gonna use alcohol...

Just measure out 100 units of alcohol with the smallest volumetric measurement available (1/16th or 1/8th teaspoon ideally or 1/4 teaspoon if the smaller are unavailable). Then mix your 1g noopept with it and dissolve. When you want to take a 10mg dose you can just use the 1/8th teaspoon to scoop up the alcohol and you should pretty accurately have 10mg in it. (Not appropriate for people with alcohol abuse problems, obviously. Personally, I would never use this method)

100 1/8th teaspoons of alcohol + 1gram of Noopept = 10mg Noopept per 1/8th teaspoon

This is not a good long-term storage option though. Noopept is subject to degradation via hydrolysis. Since 100% ethanol is unavailable and even strong liquors are generally 60% water, hydrolysis will be a problem for long term storage.

Another option would be to use the same method above but use a dry filler substance instead of a liquid. For example you could use powdered sugar or some sort of starch or even protein powder as a filler. Just measure out 100 units of filler powder with whatever measuring device you decide to use, then put it in a blender or coffee grinder with the 1 gram of noopept and mix it for about 30 seconds or until it's thoroughly mixed.

Then use the same measuring device to measure each 10mg dose. One scoop of your powder mixture should be pretty accurately 10mg.

Or just buy a scale if you plan on using nootropics for a long time.

FYI: Some powders will have a change of volume when you grind them in a blender or coffee grinder. So for the most accurate measurement with the powder approach you'd want to grind the filler powder first, then measure it, then mix it with the noopept, then grind again until evenly mixed.

[NMDAstronaut]

I have tried noopept for the past 2 days.

Some mixed results. It has been making me kind of irritable and pissed off. Also quite sad. Bringing back a lot of difficult feelings over a past break-up and really getting me into a mix of sadness anger and wanting for that relationship in a really intense emotional way that I had thought I have gotten over to a large extent. That relationship was kind of an unhealthy addiction in itself but thats another story.

Mixed with this I have had some glimmers of positive feelings and increased speed of thought processing. It seems that as it comes on I'm kind of irritable then I get into a positive phase for 30in- an hour then I start to get angry and irritable again as it seems to be wearing off. I'm just now as I'm writing this though experimenting with combining it with free form glycine. Glycine alone is calming for me so the mix might pan out.

My plan was to avoid tolerance by cycling piracetam MWF with Theanine Tues,R, then weekend use noopept and glycine but if it keeps making me kind of pissed and emotional/moody not sure it will work out - to be continued.

currently my scale is accurate to .01g but it seems to be questionable in accuracy at this level. Just purchased on that is accurate to .001. I've been taking ~10-20mg doses so far.

Edited by NMDAstronaut, 13 August 2012 - 12:55 AM.

[Major Legend]

To be fair, getting angry and depressed over increased cognition may be a feasible condition to increased brain power in certain aspects. I know I few amazing script writers who have photographic, word by word memory, but as a consequence they are forced to constantly be able to relive painful memories in explicit visceral detail.

I assume the more negative recent events, or unhappy childhood memories one has experienced, the more these things will hunt you down.

Perhaps, part of why we're all so emotional and visceral (and alive!) when we were teenagers and young young adults is because we've not lost the ability to deeply feel our memories yet (of course that and the lack of reference due to less experience and data accumulated - which may eventually leads to indifference and blunting)...

[Debaser]

Here's something strange: I find myself automatically getting things done but having no memory of doing them. I don't know if this is good or bad. For example, I thought I had left my cell phone in my car a few minutes ago and then discovered I had already brought it in. I have NO memory of doing that.

hmm< that's so interesting. I have been getting that same effect. Also i literally almost cried watching this TV show/ news thing the other night which is very odd for me.. I like never cry in the past 4 years or so. and i understand what you mean by feeling your emotions in the moment.

I've had some very nice effects with noopept. It seems to have the same mood enhancing properties of aniracetam along with some cognitive enhancement. But I also found myself with no recollection of doing things, and as time went on this forgetfulness got worse. I began to feel like I was getting Alzheimer's, even though it's supposed to be neuroprotective. As great as noopept is, I just can't take it because of its effects on memory.

I've seen quite a few people posting about its negative effects on short-term memory. I take nootropics to enhance memory, not hinder it.

I found what you said about emotions interesting. I also noticed myself crying a lot more, and it continued for weeks after I stopped taking it. I cried when watching so many TV shows or films, and through most of the Olympics. Just any happy moment brought tears to my eyes, as if I was empathising with the character or person a lot more. It doesn't surprise me that a chemical that changes the way the brain functions can affect emotions.

[gizmobrain]

Has anyone trialed using it before bed?

I have held off using mine since I didn't like the idea of eyeballing the dose, but I finally have a scale coming this week.

Edited by zrbarnes, 13 August 2012 - 09:24 PM.

[Michael Campbell]

Has anyone found noopept to have any immediate effects? I'm trying it again after a few months off (in which I felt it didn't really help me much), and I started with an attack does of 30mg in the morning, and one in the afternoon. Both times I kind of had a little rush of ... awake-ness..., if that makes any sense. For a half-hour to an hour after I took it. Could be placebo, but wondered if anyone else has felt this.

(Note: I haven't taken any choline with it, but I'm eating a couple eggs for breakfast for the past couple weeks.)

[Major Legend]

Here's something strange: I find myself automatically getting things done but having no memory of doing them. I don't know if this is good or bad. For example, I thought I had left my cell phone in my car a few minutes ago and then discovered I had already brought it in. I have NO memory of doing that.

hmm< that's so interesting. I have been getting that same effect. Also i literally almost cried watching this TV show/ news thing the other night which is very odd for me.. I like never cry in the past 4 years or so. and i understand what you mean by feeling your emotions in the moment.

I've had some very nice effects with noopept. It seems to have the same mood enhancing properties of aniracetam along with some cognitive enhancement. But I also found myself with no recollection of doing things, and as time went on this forgetfulness got worse. I began to feel like I was getting Alzheimer's, even though it's supposed to be neuroprotective. As great as noopept is, I just can't take it because of its effects on memory.

I've seen quite a few people posting about its negative effects on short-term memory. I take nootropics to enhance memory, not hinder it.

I found what you said about emotions interesting. I also noticed myself crying a lot more, and it continued for weeks after I stopped taking it. I cried when watching so many TV shows or films, and through most of the Olympics. Just any happy moment brought tears to my eyes, as if I was empathising with the character or person a lot more. It doesn't surprise me that a chemical that changes the way the brain functions can affect emotions.

hmhmh doesn't look like to be a good sign...first the forgetfulness is really weird and un-nootropic like, then crying over TV shows or Films? Over attachment is abnormal and isn't beneficial anyways, I mean its natural to be brought to tears over something awe-inspiring or amazing. Any "happy" moment doesn't mean its a moment to worth crying or to be ecstatic over, unless of course its really the overwhelming visualization, empathy and cognitive thought processes thats brining people to tears, but it doesn't sound like it. I have pretty high empathy without any nootropics, and I don't cry over the Olympics....anyone else experiencing these effects?

What I am interested in though, is the effect that people feel younger, or more like their old self.

I guess its like everything out here, it will have different effects on people.

[protoject]

Here's something strange: I find myself automatically getting things done but having no memory of doing them. I don't know if this is good or bad. For example, I thought I had left my cell phone in my car a few minutes ago and then discovered I had already brought it in. I have NO memory of doing that.

hmm< that's so interesting. I have been getting that same effect. Also i literally almost cried watching this TV show/ news thing the other night which is very odd for me.. I like never cry in the past 4 years or so. and i understand what you mean by feeling your emotions in the moment.

I've had some very nice effects with noopept. It seems to have the same mood enhancing properties of aniracetam along with some cognitive enhancement. But I also found myself with no recollection of doing things, and as time went on this forgetfulness got worse. I began to feel like I was getting Alzheimer's, even though it's supposed to be neuroprotective. As great as noopept is, I just can't take it because of its effects on memory.

I've seen quite a few people posting about its negative effects on short-term memory. I take nootropics to enhance memory, not hinder it.

I found what you said about emotions interesting. I also noticed myself crying a lot more, and it continued for weeks after I stopped taking it. I cried when watching so many TV shows or films, and through most of the Olympics. Just any happy moment brought tears to my eyes, as if I was empathising with the character or person a lot more. It doesn't surprise me that a chemical that changes the way the brain functions can affect emotions.

Did you try a low dose like 5 or 10 mg a day?

[jayfoxpox]

i plan on dissolving noopept in water. does anyone know how fast it degrades? I plan on making only enough for 1 week.

[astronautsoffduty]

Can you all comment on what sellers you've been purchasing from? I'd like to know where to buy the highest quality, and to avoid any 'bunk' powders.

[noopeptisgood]

Can you all comment on what sellers you've been purchasing from? I'd like to know where to buy the highest quality, and to avoid any 'bunk' powders.

I ordered from Cerebral Health and I found their product ineffective. I thought about giving Build Your Own Blends a try, but after receiving some bunk oxiracetam I'm not so sure. I've received what I'm confident is noopept from eBay from a source that is no longer listed. I can provide you the email if you'd like. They charge $20 a gram.

[Force]

Can you all comment on what sellers you've been purchasing from? I'd like to know where to buy the highest quality, and to avoid any 'bunk' powders.

I ordered from Cerebral Health and I found their product ineffective. I thought about giving Build Your Own Blends a try, but after receiving some bunk oxiracetam I'm not so sure. I've received what I'm confident is noopept from eBay from a source that is no longer listed. I can provide you the email if you'd like. They charge $20 a gram.

Noopept is good. You may try Superior Nutraceuticals (http://www.superiorn...tegory_Code=COG)

$25 for 5 grams, comes in a nice small jar + mg scoop.

It has been working fantastically well for me over the past month. I'll write an in depth report soon!

[m77]

I've been pretty consistently taking noopept for 4 months and have not yet taken a month off as is prescribed. I do sometimes take weekends off though. Has anyone else also been taking it for longer periods without 1 month breaks? I've really been benefiting from noopept and a month seems like a lifetime.

[NG_F]

Can you all comment on what sellers you've been purchasing from? I'd like to know where to buy the highest quality, and to avoid any 'bunk' powders.

I ordered from Cerebral Health and I found their product ineffective. I thought about giving Build Your Own Blends a try, but after receiving some bunk oxiracetam I'm not so sure. I've received what I'm confident is noopept from eBay from a source that is no longer listed. I can provide you the email if you'd like. They charge $20 a gram.

Noopept is good. You may try Superior Nutraceuticals (http://www.superiorn...tegory_Code=COG)

$25 for 5 grams, comes in a nice small jar + mg scoop.

It has been working fantastically well for me over the past month. I'll write an in depth report soon!

Has anyone else tried Noopept from Superior Nutraceuticals? I have 10gms from Cerebral Health and am just about to start in between my Cerebrolysin cycles.

M77 where did you get your Noopept if you dont mind my asking? Thanks Much.

[requiredinformation]

What is the way to guage (besides ingesting) if the noopept you've received is legit? Im in Australia and theres very limited selection available online and my noopept was shipped to me in a silver sealed pouch labelled Axenic...Thier website is not too detailed

[deeptrance]

I provided a 10 day supply of noopept samples (10mg/capsule with instructions to take 2x/day) and she hated the effect on short-term memory and stopped taking it after 5 days. We are reporting this fairly consistently here so it's noteworthy.

The experiences many of us have had with heightened emotions (especially irritability and being overly emotional, crying, etc.) makes me concerned for people with any degree or form of bipolar disorder (myself included.) This is a very common disorder, far more people have it than are diagnosed and many people self-medicate it away with alcohol or other drugs. Generally these people have exaggerated emotional states (emotional lability) and self-medication is used to heighten the desired states while suppressing the undesired. Noopept is apparently non-discriminatory with respect to its effects on emotions, heightening most of them, and thus could trigger mania. It does appear to function as an effective anti-depressant but at the cost of potentially increased anxiety. These are all effects that I have experienced.

Someone mentioned acute (immediate) effects and I did get those on the day when I took 50mg total in 3 doses. I "woke up" and felt kind of omniscient but then couldn't sleep that night. I was very irritated and impatient with people because everyone else seemed slow and stupid compared to my noopept-induced temporary "enlightenment." It's comical to look back on that feeling of superiority and I don't want to live like that. It's rather obnoxious and isn't helpful to others.