Hey Major Legend, sorry I didn't see your post for so long!
Everybody seems to be on these things which work out to be at least more than a 100 dollars per month.
oh, DEFINITELY not. It does cost a little money to make an initial 'investment,' but right now my regimen is about 50c/day. 30c of that is fish oil. If cost is critical, look for bulk powders (Cerebral Health, Smart Powders, PureBulk, True Protein, Vitaspace, Beyond a Century, etc.).
On Piracetam : I don't understand why loads of people take it and consider it the grandfather of nootropics, if people seem to be unsure if it even works or not.
A very fair question. It's because it's like 50 years old, has hundreds of studies and a long record of safe usage, and is the prototypical nootropic substance: the word was invented for it, and it's non-toxic (at reasonable doses). But as you identify, the effects are very subtle, even if you do respond to it. For some people aniracetam does work better and have a more pronounced effect, but for others (like me) it's a very
different effect, useful in different circumstances. Another reason many of us use it is that its subtlety lends it to combining well with other nootropics (in a "stack"). There are certainly more "advanced" substances, which may produce more of an effect, but they're usually more expensive, not as forgiving with dosage/safety, and with more variable reactions and possible side effects.
I am thinking at the moment of ALCAR trying with just Aniracetam. I eat a high meat low carbs diet. Basically I am looking for the absolute minimum on a cost basis, but at the same time I don't really want to miss out.
The combo I suggest as a good starting point, that myself and a few other people are enjoying pretty well right now, is piracetam + ALCAR. You can't get much cheaper than buying these in bulk, and piracetam might be off the market soon (except through overseas pharmacies), so you may want to get it while it's hot. ½ kilogram will last me 312 days; the same $30 buys you about 30g of aniracetam, which, depending on your reaction, will last somewhere between 20 and 60.
Whats your stack Chrono? Didn't you mention you had motivation/add issue as well, somwhere else on this forum.
The basis of my stack right now is piracetam and ALCAR; I've also been enjoying added aniracetam lately. I also have a half-dozen other cholinergics, dopamine precursors, and a few nootropic herbs I use "as needed," and which I'm still experimenting with. Maybe I'll get around to making myself a regimen thread, one of these days...maybe when I have
What scares me is people taking like 10-20 different things and get all the effects confused, as we are judging from subjectively experiences. It is impossible to judge if its working in the background, etc etc...I think this kind of being is unsustainable (maybe you guys will prove me wrong), but ramifications in terms not cost (since if you're rich 100-200 dollars a month is nothing), but the constant paranoia, of whats working or not, what tolerance is developing or not. Remembering dosing and dosage.
This is a good concern to keep in mind. It would be outrageously stupid to just start 10 things at once. But what most people here do is add things slowly, or experiment with them one at a time, and then see what effects they have in combination. Since this is such an experimental field, you really have to be willing to experiment, and part of that is reading up on what you're taking, too. So you have the subjective experiences, but also knowledge of mechanisms, to guide you in predicting what's going to go well together.
this should be stickied!
It's the first thread in the sticky. Maybe you should read the sticky before recommending what should be stickied?
Just joking.