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#1 stephen_b

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 02:32 PM


From a phys.org article:

Magnesium, an essential element, is found in dark, leafy vegetables such as spinach and in some fruits. Those who get less than 400 milligrams daily are at risk for allergies, asthma and heart disease, among other conditions. In 2004, Guosong Liu and colleagues at MIT discovered that magnesium might have a positive influence on learning and memory. They followed up by developing a new magnesium compound — magnesium-L-threonate (MgT) — that is more effective than conventional oral supplements at boosting magnesium in the brain, and tested it on rats.

I've not heard of this form of Mg before. Apparently threonate is a vitamin C metabolite (found in ester-C). Calcium l-threonate was found safe for Europe.

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Posted 28 January 2010 - 04:50 PM

From a phys.org article:

Magnesium, an essential element, is found in dark, leafy vegetables such as spinach and in some fruits. Those who get less than 400 milligrams daily are at risk for allergies, asthma and heart disease, among other conditions. In 2004, Guosong Liu and colleagues at MIT discovered that magnesium might have a positive influence on learning and memory. They followed up by developing a new magnesium compound — magnesium-L-threonate (MgT) — that is more effective than conventional oral supplements at boosting magnesium in the brain, and tested it on rats.

I've not heard of this form of Mg before. Apparently threonate is a vitamin C metabolite (found in ester-C). Calcium l-threonate was found safe for Europe.

StephenB

Thanks for sharing this! Hopefully magnesium-L-threonate will be available soon as a supplement. Meanwhile, I'll stick with citrate.

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Posted 18 February 2010 - 04:29 AM

How much do the other forms of magnesium enter the brain????
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Posted 09 March 2010 - 06:52 AM

Do we have any idea when Mg Threonate will get on the market. What's the most neurologically bioavailable Mg supplement? What are the most *bioavailable* Mg-rich foods? (not necessarily those that have the most amount of Mg)


Bioavailability of Different Mg compounds:
http://www.imminst.o...php/t16932.html

http://www.webmd.com...-improve-memory

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Posted 14 May 2010 - 11:46 PM

I have a feeling when this product hits the market, it's going to have a high markup. Any ideas on how to make DIY?

This is the study from the article. If someone can get the .PDF with the full study, perhaps it can gives us clues as to how they prepared it. PMID: 20152124

Neuron. 2010 Jan 28;65(2):165-77.
Enhancement of learning and memory by elevating brain magnesium.

Slutsky I, Abumaria N, Wu LJ, Huang C, Zhang L, Li B, Zhao X, Govindarajan A, Zhao MG, Zhuo M, Tonegawa S, Liu G.

Department of Brain and Cognitive Sciences, Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge, MA 02139, USA.

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* Neuron. 2010 Jan 28;65(2):143-4.

Abstract

Learning and memory are fundamental brain functions affected by dietary and environmental factors. Here, we show that increasing brain magnesium using a newly developed magnesium compound (magnesium-L-threonate, MgT) leads to the enhancement of learning abilities, working memory, and short- and long-term memory in rats. The pattern completion ability was also improved in aged rats. MgT-treated rats had higher density of synaptophysin-/synaptobrevin-positive puncta in DG and CA1 subregions of hippocampus that were correlated with memory improvement. Functionally, magnesium increased the number of functional presynaptic release sites, while it reduced their release probability. The resultant synaptic reconfiguration enabled selective enhancement of synaptic transmission for burst inputs. Coupled with concurrent upregulation of NR2B-containing NMDA receptors and its downstream signaling, synaptic plasticity induced by correlated inputs was enhanced. Our findings suggest that an increase in brain magnesium enhances both short-term synaptic facilitation and long-term potentiation and improves learning and memory functions. Copyright 2010 Elsevier Inc. All rights reserved.

PMID: 20152124 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]



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Posted 15 May 2010 - 04:41 AM

Full study can be found here:

http://basicmed.med....mg/990514-1.pdf

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Posted 15 May 2010 - 05:54 PM

Looks like they want to get it approved as a pharmaceutical.

From science daily:
"We've developed a promising new compound which has now taken the first important step towards clinical trials by Prof. Guosong Liu..."

http://www.scienceda...00222162011.htm

Edited by magnesium, 15 May 2010 - 05:56 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2010 - 06:20 PM

Agree with Magnesium poster above.

If they patented it (which I assume they did?), it does sound like they are looking at it more as a drug than a supplement.

From article:
Liu, a former MIT professor, is cofounder of Magceutics, a California-based company developing drugs for prevention and treatment of age-dependent memory decline and Alzheimer's disease.

Edited by nameless, 15 May 2010 - 06:21 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2010 - 06:22 PM

Looks like they want to get it approved as a pharmaceutical.


Bastards! :)

From the study, they left out information on the kinectics of how overcome the limiting active transport mechanism to get more Mg into the CSF. I have faith in this community that someone will figure it out ! Even if we can't get or cant' afford MgT, I'm sure we can come up with a clever way of going around the problem.

How exactly does the salt of L-threonic acid allow more Mg to pass? That is the question.

Edited by Lufega, 15 May 2010 - 06:26 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2010 - 07:24 PM

It's a good read. The first page outlines the challenges of increasing brain magnesium levels with oral and even intravenous injections.

Mg2+ concentration is higher in the cerebrospinal fluid than in plasma. This concentration gradient is maintained by active transport process, which appears to regulate and limit the amount of Mg2+ that can be loaded into the brain. In fact, increasing plasma [Mg2+] by 3-fold via intravenous infusion of MgSO4 for 5 days fails to elevate brain Mg2+ content in rats (Kim et al., 1996).

In human, dramatic increase (100%–300%) in blood [Mg2+] via intravenous infusion of MgSO4 corresponds to elevation in cerebrospinal fluid [Mg2+] only by 10%–19% (McKee et al., 2005).

Therefore, boosting brain Mg2+ via chronic oral magnesium supplement, the necessary condition for testing the influence of elevating brain Mg2+on memory function, is even more challenging. Therefore, we developed a new, highly bioavailable Mg2+ compound (magnesium-L-threonate, MgT; for chemical structure, see Figure S1 available online), that could significantly increase Mg2+ in the brain via dietary supplementation.



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Posted 15 May 2010 - 07:44 PM

I wonder if intranasal delivery of MgCl might work too.
Essentially using either a neti pot or a nasal spray bottle.

Intranasal delivery is known to bypass the BBB.

http://www.biomedcen...71-2202/9/S3/S5

Intranasal delivery bypasses the blood-brain barrier to target therapeutic agents to the central nervous system and treat neurodegenerative disease

Leah R Hanson1 and William H Frey II1,2 email

BMC Neuroscience 2008, 9(Suppl 3):S5doi:10.1186/1471-2202-9-S3-S5

Intranasal delivery provides a practical, non-invasive method of bypassing the blood-brain barrier (BBB) to deliver therapeutic agents to the brain and spinal cord. This technology allows drugs that do not cross the BBB to be delivered to the central nervous system within minutes. It also directly delivers drugs that do cross the BBB to the brain, eliminating the need for systemic administration and its potential side effects. This is possible because of the unique connections that the olfactory and trigeminal nerves provide between the brain and external environment. Intranasal delivery does not necessarily require any modification to therapeutic agents. A wide variety of therapeutics, including both small molecules and macromolecules, can be targeted to the olfactory system and connected memory areas affected by Alzheimer's disease. Using the intranasal delivery system, researchers have reversed neurodegeneration and rescued memory in a transgenic mouse model of Alzheimer's disease. Intranasal insulin-like growth factor-I, deferoxamine, and erythropoietin have been shown to protect the brain against stroke in animal models. Intranasal delivery has been used to target the neuroprotective peptide NAP to the brain to treat neurodegeneration. Intranasal fibroblast growth factor-2 and epidermal growth factor have been shown to stimulate neurogenesis in adult animals. Intranasal insulin improves memory, attention, and functioning in patients with Alzheimer's disease or mild cognitive impairment, and even improves memory and mood in normal adult humans. This new method of delivery can revolutionize the treatment of Alzheimer's disease, stroke, and other brain disorders.


Interesting.

Limitations
(1) Concentration achievable in different regions of the brain and spinal cord, varies with each agent
(2) Delivery is expected to decrease with increasing molecular weight of drug
(3) Some therapeutic agents may be susceptible to partial degradation in the nasal mucosa or may cause irritation to the mucosa
(4) Nasal congestion due to cold or allergies may interfere with this method of delivery
(5) Frequent use of this route results in mucosal damage (e.g. infection, anosmia).


http://www.ijp-onlin...ast=Talegaonkar

Edited by rwac, 15 May 2010 - 07:57 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2010 - 08:14 PM

Strange that they have managed to get so much attention for a rodent study. Rodent studies finding various nice effects from various strange compounds are not exactly rare. See little reason for excitment until there is at least study showing better human CSF bioavailability than other magnesium compunds. Which should be a rather very quick and cheap study to do. Then we have the problem if it beneficial at all, there may be a reason why Mg+ concentration in the human brain are strongly regulated to be constant...

Edited by Blue, 15 May 2010 - 08:17 PM.


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Posted 15 May 2010 - 10:04 PM

Well, at least that gives them a way to make another use of all the excess L-threonine that usually just sits there. Not a very popularly consumed standalone amino acid.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 12:51 AM

Well, at least that gives them a way to make another use of all the excess L-threonine that usually just sits there. Not a very popularly consumed standalone amino acid.

No, threonine isn't threonic acid.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 02:25 AM

rwac,

Isn't magnesium oil just concentrated magnesium chloride? Consumer reviews all say that it burns and feels itchy. Heck, I suppose using it intranasally would burn too? How about magnesium sulphate? This study suggests using it in aerosol form to treat asthma so it shouldn't be an irritant.

Aerosolized magnesium sulfate for acute asthma: a systematic review.

BACKGROUND: The use of MgSO(4) is one of numerous treatment options available during exacerbations of asthma. While the efficacy of therapy with IV MgSO(4) has been demonstrated, little is known about inhaled MgSO(4). OBJECTIVES: A systematic review of the literature was performed to examine the effect of inhaled MgSO(4) in the treatment of patients with asthma exacerbations in the emergency department.

METHODS: Randomized controlled trials were eligible for inclusion and were identified from the Cochrane Airways Group "Asthma and Wheez*" register, which consists of a combined search of the EMBASE, CENTRAL, MEDLINE, and CINAHL databases and the manual searching of 20 key respiratory journals. Reference lists of published studies were searched, and a review of the gray literature was also performed. Studies were included if patients had been treated with nebulized MgSO(4) alone or in combination with beta(2)-agonists and were compared to the use of beta(2)-agonists alone or with an inactive control substance. Trial selection, data extraction, and methodological quality were assessed by two independent reviewers. The results from fixed-effects models are presented as standardized mean differences (SMDs) for pulmonary functions and the relative risks (RRs) for hospital admission. Both are displayed with their 95% confidence intervals (CIs).

RESULTS: Six trials involving 296 patients were included. There was a non-significant increase [corrected] in pulmonary function between patients whose treatments included nebulized MgSO(4) and those whose treatments [corrected] did not (SMD, 0.22; 95% CI, -0.02 to 0.47 [corrected] five studies); there was also a trend toward reduced [corrected] hospitalizations in patients whose treatments included nebulized MgSO(4) (RR, 0.67; 95% CI, 0.41 to 1.09; four studies). Subgroup analyses demonstrated that lung function improvement was similar in adult patients and in those patients who received nebulized MgSO(4) in addition to a beta(2)-agonist.

CONCLUSIONS: The use of nebulized MgSO(4), particularly in addition to a beta(2)-agonist, in the treatment of an acute asthma exacerbation appears to produce benefits with respect to improved pulmonary function and may reduce the number of hospital admissions.


Full study http://chestjournal....7.full.pdf html

Even if we were able to use Mg intranasally, the study using MgT used pretty high doses that are probably unattainable using intranal delivery

We found that 50 mg/kg/day (elemental Mg2+) is the minimum effective dose ....Magnesium-L-threonate (604 mg/kg/day) was administered via drinking water
(50 mg/kg/day elemental Mg2+).


Edited by Lufega, 16 May 2010 - 02:40 AM.


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Posted 16 May 2010 - 02:31 AM

Well, at least that gives them a way to make another use of all the excess L-threonine that usually just sits there. Not a very popularly consumed standalone amino acid.

No, threonine isn't threonic acid.


Ah, yes. Simple mistake.

Still shameful that threonine can't be served to a greater use as a standalone. Maybe a mag-Thr could be developed too. I hate to see standard aminos get neglected to others..... =o

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 02:41 AM

Isn't magnesium oil just concentrated magnesium chloride? Consumer reviews all say that it burns and feels itchy. Heck, I suppose using it intranasally would burn too? How about magnesium sulphate? This study suggests using it in aerosol form to treat asthma so it shouldn't be an irritant.


I don't think using it straight is a good idea, but diluted. How about a solution with brine+MgCl.

I don't see why Sulphate shouldn't work too, it's ionic.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 03:03 AM

Even if we were able to use Mg intranasally, the study using MgT used pretty high doses that are probably unattainable using intranal delivery

We found that 50 mg/kg/day (elemental Mg2+) is the minimum effective dose ....Magnesium-L-threonate (604 mg/kg/day) was administered via drinking water
(50 mg/kg/day elemental Mg2+).


I'm a big fan of Mg, but yikes. Not terribly safe to scale that up to ~3300mg/day. Now with a scaling factor of 1/7, 535mg is more doable.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 03:26 AM

LOL you first! That's gonna burn something aweful

I wonder if intranasal delivery of MgCl might work too.
Essentially using either a neti pot or a nasal spray bottle.

Intranasal delivery is known to bypass the BBB.

http://www.biomedcen...71-2202/9/S3/S5

Intranasal delivery bypasses the blood-brain barrier to target therapeutic agents to the central nervous system and treat neurodegenerative disease

Leah R Hanson1 and William H Frey II1,2 email

BMC Neuroscience 2008, 9(Suppl 3):S5doi:10.1186/1471-2202-9-S3-S5

Intranasal delivery provides a practical, non-invasive method of bypassing the blood-brain barrier (BBB) to deliver therapeutic agents to the brain and spinal cord. This technology allows drugs that do not cross the BBB to be delivered to the central nervous system within minutes. It also directly delivers drugs that do cross the BBB to the brain, eliminating the need for systemic administration and its potential side effects. This is possible because of the unique connections that the olfactory and trigeminal nerves provide between the brain and external environment. Intranasal delivery does not necessarily require any modification to therapeutic agents. A wide variety of therapeutics, including both small molecules and macromolecules, can be targeted to the olfactory system and connected memory areas affected by Alzheimer's disease. Using the intranasal delivery system, researchers have reversed neurodegeneration and rescued memory in a transgenic mouse model of Alzheimer's disease. Intranasal insulin-like growth factor-I, deferoxamine, and erythropoietin have been shown to protect the brain against stroke in animal models. Intranasal delivery has been used to target the neuroprotective peptide NAP to the brain to treat neurodegeneration. Intranasal fibroblast growth factor-2 and epidermal growth factor have been shown to stimulate neurogenesis in adult animals. Intranasal insulin improves memory, attention, and functioning in patients with Alzheimer's disease or mild cognitive impairment, and even improves memory and mood in normal adult humans. This new method of delivery can revolutionize the treatment of Alzheimer's disease, stroke, and other brain disorders.


Interesting.

Limitations
(1) Concentration achievable in different regions of the brain and spinal cord, varies with each agent
(2) Delivery is expected to decrease with increasing molecular weight of drug
(3) Some therapeutic agents may be susceptible to partial degradation in the nasal mucosa or may cause irritation to the mucosa
(4) Nasal congestion due to cold or allergies may interfere with this method of delivery
(5) Frequent use of this route results in mucosal damage (e.g. infection, anosmia).


http://www.ijp-onlin...ast=Talegaonkar



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Posted 16 May 2010 - 03:48 AM

LOL you first! That's gonna burn something aweful


Oh, I've done it with a dilute solution of Salt, Bicarb and MgCl2. Works great for sinus congestion/inflammation.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 04:29 AM

Ah, yes. Simple mistake.

Still shameful that threonine can't be served to a greater use as a standalone. Maybe a mag-Thr could be developed too. I hate to see standard aminos get neglected to others..... =o

From the patent applications I've read they synthesize L-threonic acid from vitamin C.

Preparation of Magnesium Threonate

[0193]Calcium threonate was first prepared from 264 g (1.5 mole) of vitamin C, 300 g (3 moles) of calcium carbonate, and 600 mL of 30% by volume H.sub.20.sub.2, according to the procedure described by Wei et al., J. Org. Chem. 50, 3462-3467 (1985). The prepared calcium threonate was redissolved in .about.3 L water at .about.90.degree. C. The resulting solution was cooled to .about.50.degree. C. and then poured through a 3 inch-diameter column packed with 3 L clean Amberlite IR-120 strongly acidic resin, while the column was continuously eluted with water. Fractions containing threonic acid having a pH of less than about 4.5 were collected. The fractions of threonic acid were combined (.about.7 to .about.8 L) and stirred at .about.50 to .about.60.degree. C. Mg(OH).sub.2 powder was added to the threonic acid in small portions until the pH reached 7. The resulting solution was filtered and concentrated by rotary evaporation at .about.50.degree. C. to a final volume of .about.700 to .about.800 mL. The concentrated solution was cooled to room temperature, filtered to remove any trace amounts of insoluble materials, and then transferred to a 5-L, three-necked, round-bottom flask and mechanically stirred. About 4 L of methanol was added to the resulting solution to precipitate out a white solid product, magnesium threonate. The solid was collected by suction filtration and then dried under high vacuum at 50.degree. C. for 2 days to yield 194 g of magnesium threonate as a white solid. Elemental analysis showed the material contained one mole of water for each mole of magnesium threonate.

As for amino acids, you might be interested in an old Albion patent (# 4,863,898) that claims more specific delivery of mineral chelates to several tissues including the brain.

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Posted 16 May 2010 - 07:20 PM

Vitamin C degrades to threonate in water, so making magnesium ascorbate and letting it sit in water might give you mgT

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 04:18 AM

So untill we have this specific brand out, which magnesium brand is the most effective and safe on the market right now?

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 08:38 PM

Vitamin C degrades to threonate in water, so making magnesium ascorbate and letting it sit in water might give you mgT


I thought about using magnesium ascorbate. One problem is that it contains very little elemental Mg. I found no studies reviewing how much gets to the brain. Maybe IV magnesium ascorbate would work better than magnesium sulfate.

I want my MgT now!! :)

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Posted 17 May 2010 - 09:11 PM

I want my MgT now!! :)

Why?

As Blue mentioned, for all we know, it may just work in rodents. Or worse, it may be detrimental to people. It's probably a better idea to wait for some human studies first, even if it was somehow available for purchase.
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Posted 17 May 2010 - 09:23 PM

As Blue mentioned, for all we know, it may just work in rodents. Or worse, it may be detrimental to people. It's probably a better idea to wait for some human studies first, even if it was somehow available for purchase.


Well, some people can usually tell if a supplement is doing any good, especially if it's claimed to have neuroprotective/nootropic effects. Plus threonic acid is a vitamin c metabolite, unlikely to be terribly unsafe.

Edited by rwac, 17 May 2010 - 09:23 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2010 - 10:21 PM

My concern would be more or less what Blue stated regarding mag regulation in the brain. If mag l-threonate does result in much higher concentrations reaching the human brain, it's probably a good idea to figure out if it's safe first.

I expect it probably is, but at least one human study first would be nice.

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Posted 25 May 2010 - 11:09 PM

I got to thinking. Magnesium status is very tightly controlled in the CNS. It's generally accepted that we are all magnesium deficient because of the foods that we eat that are 1. deficient in mag. 2. Deplete magnesium levels (simple carbs, etc.) If this is so, that means that our brain levels are probably dangerously low.

Follow me here for a second.

Ocular problems like myopia, astigmatism and keratoconus are fairly common. I think we all know someone who wears glasses. I do. Actually, I'm blind as f@#$. I'm also very magnesium deficient.

I wrote a thread about supplements that can improve eyesight. In my research, I found that the common denominator in all ocular problem was weak connective tissue, the result of mineral insufficiencies. One of these is magnesium. What I didn't take into account was that all those magnesium, zinc and other minerals we take are not concentrating in the CNS, at therapeutic levels. So even if, articles that I posted (one claims that low zinc causes myopia) that elevating zinc levels should help myopia, enough of it is not getting to the brain.

So, if my logic serves me right. If there is a general body deficiency of magnesium, this means the brain is deplete as well. Which only means that the ocular system (itself part of the CNS) is also not getting what it needs.

This could be ONE explanation as to why eye problems are so widespread. If so, short of inventing magnesium eyedrops (there is a patent for one, precisely to treat corneal problems), increasing brain magnesium levels should offer a remedy/solution to improving eyesight. So this magT holds a lot of promise.

Edited by Lufega, 25 May 2010 - 11:42 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2010 - 07:20 AM

They mentioned in this paper that magnesium gluconate in milk was slightly effective at raising CSF Mg levels over 3 weeks. And my statistics suck, but it seems that normal forms of Mg were at least partially effective at increasing short-term object recognition (though not long-term).

In a separate study, the bioavailability (evaluated by absorption, excretion, and retention rate of magnesium) of four commercially available Mg2+ compounds (magnesium-chloride, -citrate, -glycinate, and -gluconate) and two Mg2+ preparations we developed (magnesium-L-threonate, MgT, and magnesium-gluconate in milk) was compared in rats. We found that both MgT and magnesium-gluconate in milk have higher bioavailability (X.Z., F. Mao, Y. Shang, N.A., and G.L., unpublished data).

Other magnesium compounds did not elevate [Mg2+]CSF significantly when compared to control (Figure 1A).
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(A) Elevation of magnesium concentration in the cerebrospinal fluid ([Mg2+]CSF) following treatment with different magnesium compounds. Total Mg2+ in CSF was measured before magnesium treatment (day 0), 12, and 24 days after magnesium treatment. Two-way ANOVA analysis revealed significant effect of treatment (F3,69 = 4.76, p = 0.0045, n = 6–8). Data were calculated and presented as a percentage of baseline level.

Rats treated with MgT showed significant enhancement of short-term memory (10 min retention interval, one-way ANOVA analysis, p < 0.05) using a modified NORT (see Figure S4 and Supplemental Experimental Procedures). Rats treated with magnesium-chloride or -citrate displayed enhanced short-term memory as well, but this enhancement was not statistically significant (Figure 1B).
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(B) Rat performance during a short-term memory test (10 min retention interval) evaluated by novel object recognition test.

Surprisingly, although magnesium-gluconate in milk has a comparable bioavailability to MgT (X.Z., F. Mao, Y. Shang, N.A., and G.L., unpublished data), it failed to enhance memory (Figure 1B). For the long-term memory test (12 hr retention interval), only MgT-treated rats exhibited enhanced performance (p < 0.05, Figure 1C).
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[C] Long-term memory test (12 hr) using novel object recognition test. One-way ANOVA analysis revealed significant effect of treatment on shortterm memory (F4,34 = 2.89, p = 0.037, n = 7–9) and long-term memory (F4,31 = 4.50, p = 0.005, n = 5–10). Post hoc test revealed significant effect of magnesium-L-threonate (MgT) on short term and long-term memory.


Perhaps sustained treatment with Mg gluconate might be partially effective at raising brain levels? Though according to the short- and long-term NORTs, it's probably not nearly as good as MgT. (It's worth noting that gluconic acid increases aluminum retention in many organs, including the brain)

The question of whether all this would be beneficial in humans is a good one. The authors propose (and confirm by several analyses) that increased synaptic plasticity and activity is due to upregulation of NMDA receptors (via homeostatic response to Mg NMDAR channel blockage, and leading to higher NMDA current during burst activity). Higher brain Mg increased the ratio of phosphorylated CamKII and CREB (but not their total expression), as well as the ratio of NR2B to NR2A/NR1 subunits (these have a positive effect on short- and long-term potentiation, and plasticity). Downstream of this, BDNF was increased by 36% (BDNF is regulated by level of CREB activation). Tests also found increased levels of synaptophysin and synaptobrevin, indicating increased density of presynaptic boutons, and an increase in the number of functional presynaptic release sites. (As Lufega said, this paper is a great read...they really followed the question through pretty deeply)

So, does an upregulation of NMDAR and increased burst current pose any potential problem to humans, in addition to enhancement of cognition? What about a "reconfiguration of synaptic networks from a small number of synapses with high release probability to a larger number of synapses with low release probability?"

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 06:56 AM

How badly do you want to get that magnesium into your brain?

Bioccular Transcerebral Iontophoresis
www.homeopathy.ca/pdf/BTI.pdf
Of course completely unsourced. Also a little disturbing to see homeopaths playing with anything not extremely diluted.

Principles of treatment
A tiny, painless and barely perceptible direct electrical current is transmitted from the
eyes through the brain to the neck and back.
This micro-electrical current carries different ions (i.e., calcium, magnesium, iodide, etc.)
through the brain and spinal cord from one electrode to the other.
The rehabilitation of neural tissue and restoration of function are likely achieved by
decreasing scar tissues in the eyes, brain or spinal cord and improving circulation which
helps to regulate function and repair neural tissue. Bio-medical researchers have also
demonstrated that DC electrical fields can stimulate regeneration of nerve cells.


This man actually existed and published. Not much info available on him online.

Bioccular transcerebral iontophoresis (BTI) is a treatment that was developed around
1920 by Georges Bourguignon, M.D., D.Sc., who was a neurologist and
neurophysiologist and a member of the French Academy of Medicine.


Sadly, no abstracts:

Atti Accad Fisiocrit Siena Med Fis. 1955;2:62-7.
[Penetration of calcium into the encephalon of rabbits treated with transcerebral iontophoresis.]
[Article in Italian]
MONTANARI M.
PMID: 13341669 [PubMed - OLDMEDLINE]

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What do you guys think about iontophoresis for improving transdermal magnesium ion transport? If it does work, would it increase blood levels or only have a local effect?

http://physicalthera...stract/75/6/554

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Weinstein and Gordon[77] reported on the use of magnesium iontophoresis from a solution of 2% magnesium sulphate in the treatment of a series of 50 patients with subdeltoid bursitis
. Thirty-four of the patients showed good results (resolution of all clinical signs and symptoms and restoration of full active range of motion), and another 14 patients were improved. The authors felt that these results were satisfactory, better than could be achieved by other methods available.


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