The point is that Alexei Potapov has posted an offer to the Venturists discussion group. The offer from the Russian organization CryoFreedom stands for a $3000 cryonics neuro storage in Voronezh/Russia. It requires a payment of 50$ per month (for a 30 y.o. person). It's like an insurance, so a fairly older person must pay a higher rate.
So if you pay them $3,000 then when you die, if somebody brings you there, then they will freeze your brain? What if you have made 10 payments of $50.00 and then you get hit by a bus? Will they still freeze you then?
Yet, a monthly payment of 50$ per month is impractical for those who live in countries like Germany who are far away from Russia. That's because of the high bank fees for international money transfer which costs probably more than $15 per payment. So the terms disclosed by CryoFreedom should be changed to allow annual payments. In case of the bank information from KrioRus, there are two numbers next to a BIK clearing code. Therefore, they should confirm which of them is the number of the allocation account. That would help to make the transfer easyer. In case the money goes to a different bank account owned by CryoFreedom, they should also confirm which one is the right allocation account number. If they can tell the bank's address, that would be perfect.
Hmm, those are good ideas and points. If somebody is making their payment, but die before completing it, they sound like they would make a good candidate for help from this potential imminst hardship fund. What though if they were making their payments, then say, missed them for 4 months, you know, that kind of thing. We'll have to ask ourselves if they qualify in situations like that.
In order to get the above mentioned bank information and allowance for yearly payments, it looks as if it would be the best when something can be approached by negotiations with CryoFreedom or KrioRus. Imminst should help to make it happen. So if there would be an Imminst cryo hardship application, it should support at least two choices suitable for cryonics storage in Voronezh/Russia. The 1st choice helps when a receiver of the cryo hardship grant isn't completely unable to pay some money. So the receiver of the hardship grant must pay the $3000 (for neuro storage) in annual installments of something from $600 up to $1000 per year instead of the above mentioned monthly payments ($50 in this case). The 2nd choice is that Imminst pays the $3000 directly from a hardship fund which helps when a receiver of the hardship grant is completely unable to pay some money at all.
I think we will likely end up offering this through any cryo provider across the board if this goes through. Im not sure if we would want to micromanage each different scenerio, but rather try to make it subject from case to case, but be open to all scenerios. We'll probably also want to make clear that we reserve the right to deny any applicant for any reason or something like that. We dont want people to depend on this fund, if its created, in any way. Im not saying your saying that, Im just reiterating that again for this context.
A Declaration of Intent is no contract which definately grants the right for cryopreservation. Therefore, a contract for cryo in Russia should contain a clause like this: The client is granted the right to receive cryo preservation when the provider has received the $3000 fee paid off by the client or client's sponsor.
Isnt that already the case? Or are you saying that people might want to reserve certain deals, and that these deals might not be available later?
Part of the way that I imagine the bulk of this going, if this goes through, is that we wouldnt be granting out very many large amounts of the total at all, and less so the more expensive the package that the person wants is. I imagine we would want to align this so we'll be giving out mostly around, $2,000 matchers to people that already have around $2,000 more, and then their people can match us by raising another $2,000, that general price range. If they are going for a $150,000 package, then if they qualify, they may get say, around $2,000, or maybe like, a $20,000 loan to be paid back or something like that.
