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[Cless986]

Hi, a serious question what supps are good for a sexual boost??, I had low t but people here recommended me take zinc and ginger, and helped a lot!! My libido actually improved a lot :D,
I am a chinese and I already tried cordyceps, reishi, birdnest, etc I know that most of
the chinese herbs are for sexual improvement :D (not sure if they worg thought) but I want to
Ask you guys, what supplements are scientifically proven to work... Thanks

[outsider]

Hi, a serious question what supps are good for a sexual boost??, I had low t but people here recommended me take zinc and ginger, and helped a lot!! My libido actually improved a lot :D,
I am a chinese and I already tried cordyceps, reishi, birdnest, etc I know that most of
the chinese herbs are for sexual improvement :D (not sure if they worg thought) but I want to
Ask you guys, what supplements are scientifically proven to work... Thanks

Don't rely only on science though you could miss on a lot of good supp.

[rwac]

Maca, D aspartic acid, tadalafil.

[winston]

Anyone ever try anything to help the other way around, to last longer? Maybe SSRIs. Pretty sure they were testing one for that use.

[mike250]

low dose SSRIs can help with that. I think maca can as well.

[nito]

low dose SSRIs can help with that. I think maca can as well.

gonna see if my zoloft 50 mg will do that pretty soon!

[chrono]

Dopamine plays a large role in mental/emotional arousal. Not sure how this affects "performance" as you mean it, but it may increase the pleasure you receive. L-Tyrosine or NALT might be worth trying.

[estranged]

SSRIs are great for lasting longer, also for me, orgasm is much more intense with lexapro. However the problem gets much worse after stopping. Search for "SSRI discontinuation syndrome"

As for boosting sexual performance, this is the best one I've tried: http://www.iherb.com...lets/17382?at=0

[spaceistheplace]

mucuna pruriens makes me feel like i can punch through a brick wall (not talking about my fist here).....

[Animal]

I've actually found low dose Citalopram to give me anorgasmia, talk about lasting longer, I could last forever! So be careful about using SSRI's to resolve premature ejaculation issues.

[health_nutty]

5g of L-citrulline on an empty stomach as a noticeable effect (in a "normal" male).

[FunkOdyssey]

I've actually found low dose Citalopram to give me anorgasmia, talk about lasting longer, I could last forever! So be careful about using SSRI's to resolve premature ejaculation issues.

You can resolve that easily with an adjunct, either a psychostimulant (MPH, AMP) or buspirone. I wouldn't take an SSRI without one or the other.

Edited by FunkOdyssey, 21 June 2010 - 03:05 PM.

[Animal]

I've actually found low dose Citalopram to give me anorgasmia, talk about lasting longer, I could last forever! So be careful about using SSRI's to resolve premature ejaculation issues.

You can resolve that easily with an adjunct, either a psychostimulant (MPH, AMP) or buspirone. I wouldn't take an SSRI without one or the other.

Personally psychostimulants already delay orgasm so I doubt they would be effective in that capacity for me. I don't have any sexual issues, but was taking citalopram for dysthymia and noted anorgasmia as a side effect. Thankfully I stopped taking that a while back and everything returned to normal.

What are you suggesting though, that a psychostimulant or buspirone would allow orgasm to occur but because of the SSRI it would be delayed?

Because of the vasoconstrictive effects of stims you'd probably end up having to take sildenafil to allow an erection. Which would end up being quite a cocktail, and not a particularly healthy one. There are better ways to resolve premature ejaculation issues.

[FunkOdyssey]

What are you suggesting though, that a psychostimulant or buspirone would allow orgasm to occur but because of the SSRI it would be delayed?

I am suggesting they fix SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction, which for men includes libido, erectile function and the ability to orgasm.

Psychostimulants apparently reverse sexual dysfunction secondary to selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors

Authors: Barbara D. Bartlika; Peter Kaplanb; Helen S. Kaplan
Published in: journal Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy, Volume 21, Issue 4 Winter 1995 , pages 264 - 271

Abstract
Sexual dysfunction secondary to selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs) is an almost universal, yet pooly understood phenomenon. Not uncommonly, this unpleasant side effect leads to noncompliance. Since SSRIs have been so successful clinically, it is time to find a safe and effective treatment for this side effect. This paper reports on jive cases in which low dosages of the psychostimulants, dextroamphetamine and methylphenidate, administerd on a p.r.n. basis, reversed the sexually inhibiting side effects of the SSRIs fluoxetine, sertraline, and paroxetine in patients with and without attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. In addition, the women experienced enhanced levels of arousal, orgasmic sensation and excitement during the resolution phase (afterglow) of the sexual response cycle on psychostimulants, and the men noted firmer erections.

Buspirone treatment of sexual dysfunction associated with selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors
Michael J. Norden, M.D. *
University of Washington, Seattle, WA 98111

Abstract
A retrospective study was done of sixteen patients treated with adjunctive buspirone in the context of sexual dysfunction associated with the use of selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRls). Sexual functioning was rated as much or very much improved in 11 patients (69%). Treatment was generally very well tolerated. However, several patients who had become less irritable after treatment with an SSRI, reported increased irritability. The results suggest adjunctive buspirone may be useful in the management of sexual dysfunction associated with SSRIs; possible mechanisms of action are discussed.

These are both common strategies employed by psychiatrists to resolve SSRI sexual dysfunction and you will find testimonials all around the net about either one of these agents reversing sexual difficulties on SSRI's.

Edited by FunkOdyssey, 21 June 2010 - 05:02 PM.

[FunkOdyssey]

Another one:

J Clin Psychopharmacol. 1999 Jun;19(3):268-71.
Effect of buspirone on sexual dysfunction in depressed patients treated with selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors.

Landén M, Eriksson E, Agren H, Fahlén T.

Institute of Clinical Neuroscience, Department of Psychiatry, Göteborg University, Sweden. mikael.landen@neuro.gu.se
Abstract

To evaluate the possible influence of buspirone on sexual dysfunction in depressed patients treated with a selective serotonin reuptake inhibitor (SSRI), we analyzed data from a placebo-controlled trial designed to explore the efficacy of buspirone as add-on treatment for patients not responding to an SSRI alone. At baseline, all patients met the criteria for a major depressive episode according to DSM-IV and had received citalopram or paroxetine during a minimum of 4 weeks without responding to the treatment. Buspirone (flexible dosage, 20-60 mg/day) or placebo was added to the SSRI for 4 weeks; the mean daily dose of buspirone at endpoint was 48.5 mg (SD = 1.0). Sexual dysfunction was evaluated using a structured interview. Before starting medication with buspirone or placebo, 40% (47 of 117) reported at least one kind of sexual dysfunction (decreased libido, ejaculatory dysfunction, orgasmic dysfunction). During the 4 weeks of treatment, approximately 58% of subjects treated with buspirone reported an improvement with respect to sexual function; in the placebo group, the response rate was 30%. The difference between placebo and active drug treatment was more pronounced in women than in men. The response was obvious during the first week, with no further improvement during the course of the study. It is suggested that the effect of buspirone on sexual dysfunction is a result of a reversal of SSRI-induced sexual side effects rather than of an antidepressant effect of the drug.

PMID: 10350034

[chrono]

Personally psychostimulants already delay orgasm so I doubt they would be effective in that capacity for me.

Me too...psychostims increase libido significantly, but have a largely negative effect on erection strength, and a pronounced delay that can be good or bad depending on the situation. I have a hard time picturing how this would correct dysfunction of which several problems are the same. And by the inclusion of the word "apparently" in the title of their paper, it seems the researchers were a little bemused as well.

[Cless986]

I dont have problems getting erections, I am looking for something that helps me recover faster,
I need to wait 30min minimum to do it again...

[zorba990]

What are you suggesting though, that a psychostimulant or buspirone would allow orgasm to occur but because of the SSRI it would be delayed?

I am suggesting they fix SSRI-induced sexual dysfunction, which for men includes libido, erectile function and the ability to orgasm.

Psychostimulants apparently reverse sexual dysfunction secondary to selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors

Authors: Barbara D. Bartlika; Peter Kaplanb; Helen S. Kaplan
Published in: journal Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy, Volume 21, Issue 4 Winter 1995 , pages 264 - 271

Abstract
Sexual dysfunction secondary to selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRIs) is an almost universal, yet pooly understood phenomenon. Not uncommonly, this unpleasant side effect leads to noncompliance. Since SSRIs have been so successful clinically, it is time to find a safe and effective treatment for this side effect. This paper reports on jive cases in which low dosages of the psychostimulants, dextroamphetamine and methylphenidate, administerd on a p.r.n. basis, reversed the sexually inhibiting side effects of the SSRIs fluoxetine, sertraline, and paroxetine in patients with and without attention deficit hyperactivity disorder. In addition, the women experienced enhanced levels of arousal, orgasmic sensation and excitement during the resolution phase (afterglow) of the sexual response cycle on psychostimulants, and the men noted firmer erections.

Buspirone treatment of sexual dysfunction associated with selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors
Michael J. Norden, M.D. *
University of Washington, Seattle, WA 98111

Abstract
A retrospective study was done of sixteen patients treated with adjunctive buspirone in the context of sexual dysfunction associated with the use of selective serotonin re-uptake inhibitors (SSRls). Sexual functioning was rated as much or very much improved in 11 patients (69%). Treatment was generally very well tolerated. However, several patients who had become less irritable after treatment with an SSRI, reported increased irritability. The results suggest adjunctive buspirone may be useful in the management of sexual dysfunction associated with SSRIs; possible mechanisms of action are discussed.

These are both common strategies employed by psychiatrists to resolve SSRI sexual dysfunction and you will find testimonials all around the net about either one of these agents reversing sexual difficulties on SSRI's.

What is the mechanism of action? I'd be curious to know if there are more naturally/nutritionally oriented things to accomplish the same result.

[unregistered_user]

I second citalopram. That stuff makes it so you can have sex forever. It actually becomes just as embarrassing as finishing too soon (I would imagine) when it takes you an hour+ to get the job done. I became quite frustrated while on it.

[Logan]

SSRIs are great for lasting longer, also for me, orgasm is much more intense with lexapro. However the problem gets much worse after stopping. Search for "SSRI discontinuation syndrome"

As for boosting sexual performance, this is the best one I've tried: http://www.iherb.com...lets/17382?at=0

A good reason to NEVER stop taking an SSRI or any other antidepressant if it is working well with few or no side effects.

[Animal]

I second citalopram. That stuff makes it so you can have sex forever. It actually becomes just as embarrassing as finishing too soon (I would imagine) when it takes you an hour+ to get the job done. I became quite frustrated while on it.

True facts; I hated the effect it had on my sex life, but then I never had any problems before that. I think the OP is looking for something to reduce the sexual refractory period, even though 30mins sounds totally reasonable to me, there is such a thing as foreplay after all.

[chrono]

I dont have problems getting erections, I am looking for something that helps me recover faster,
I need to wait 30min minimum to do it again...

I agree with Animal, 30 minutes is entirely reasonable for someone your age. You're not 13 any more.

But as you've clarified your original question, you could do some reading about pramipexole. It's said (anecdotally) to drastically reduce refractory period.

Beware of relying too heavily on these. It's easy to get into the mindset that sex only feels "right" when enhanced with these kinds of drugs.

[Rossini]

I dont have problems getting erections, I am looking for something that helps me recover faster,
I need to wait 30min minimum to do it again...

The refractory period may be regulated by the hormone prolactin.
Here's a link: http://www.nature.co...l/3900823a.html

[sapient]

I dont have problems getting erections, I am looking for something that helps me recover faster,
I need to wait 30min minimum to do it again...

Cabergoline would prolly work but I doubt that you would want to deal with the side-effects.

"It has at times been used as an adjunct to SSRI antidepressants as there is some evidence that it counteracts certain side effects of those drugs, such as reduced libido and anorgasmia. It also has been suggested online that it has a possible recreational use in reducing or eliminating the male refractory period."

http://en.wikipedia....ecretional_uses

[1kgcoffee]

Maca or a decoction of Muira Puama/Catuaba