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#1 health_nutty

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 03:05 AM


Piracetam makes me feel a little weird when I take it during the day. I can take at night and wake up fine. Would I get the full benefit if I only take it at night in one large dose?

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 03:55 AM

How long have you been taking it? I'm on my first month, maybe going into my fifth week, and Piracetam is beginning to affect me differently (in a better way) than when I first started. Incidentally, I've upped my dosage from 3g per day to about 24g per day. I know that sounds drastic but it seems to be working just fine for me. My Choline Bit. consumption is at about 7g per day now too as a result. When I was taking low doses in the beginning I felt alright about taking Piracetam before bed but now at my high doses, I don't dare risk inducing a stimulating effect that might interfere with a restful night's sleep.

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Posted 09 July 2010 - 03:59 AM

I've been using Piracetam for almost 3 weeks. I may try micro doses of 200mg 3x a day and 1.6 at night. As I get comfortable with that I may bump up the microdoses. Some days I'm mostly fine with 800mg 3x a day. I still feel better with none. I'm torn between smaller doses and the research showing much larger doses are more effective than lower doses.

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Posted 10 July 2010 - 02:16 AM

I've always been of the opinion that piracetam benefits you almost entirely in an acute way, while it has an appreciable plasma level. I feel like a few people here disagree, saying that it doesn't matter when you take it during the day, or how you divide it up. But I may be incorrect, and you may reap some degree of benefit over a longer timeframe. I've never tried it only at night, after all.

It seems like you tried enough different choline sources that it probably isn't the issue. You may just not respond well to it; seems to happen with at least one person for everything discussed here. You may want to try out some of the other racetams, like oxiracetam and aniracetam. Their effects are different enough that there's a possibility it may obviate the slight feeling of wrongness you're describing.

Also, micro dosing is probably worth trying, at least for a couple of days, if only for eliminating the possibility.

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Posted 11 July 2010 - 07:48 PM

you should try to find a way to take it during the day - your stimulating your brain at night when its supposed to be resting

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Posted 11 July 2010 - 10:51 PM

you should try to find a way to take it during the day - your stimulating your brain at night when its supposed to be resting

That's an interesting point to consider, but I don't know if it's really a problem. Piracetam has some mechanisms which enhance various functions, but that doesn't necessarily mean it does so in a way which is detrimental to rest. I've never once had a problem sleeping because of piracetam. I've taken it a decent number of times at night, and only ever noticed increased dream rate/quality/memory, and if anything, awaking refreshed. Though some certainly don't tolerate it this well.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 11:57 AM

Here is an interesting article i found on xgeek.org
I'm not sure how credible they are, but i can definitely vouch for it since i agree with they say, and have also tried it at night. Hope this helps!

Piracetam and sleep
Although it has been mentioned many times that Piracetam affects sleep this can be rather misleading. In most cases taking Piracetam in the afternoon hours will expand considerably your awake time. Piracetam and most other nootropics actually work with your thought process and not your physical/metabolic systems. What does this mean in practice? It means that it is not coffee. By taking it if you actually need to be awake longer you will find it easier and will be much better focused during this time than without Piracetam. If you don’t actually need to stay awake you might be able to go to sleep. I’m saying might. Because, if you are already properly rested and took Piracetam in the last couple of hours it doesn’t matter if it’s night if you go to bed you will spend your time lying with your mind racing 100mph. If on the other hand you are tired, have no urgent reason to stay awake and go and lay down you could easily fall asleep. Xgeek team has tested this multiple times. Sleeping under effects of Piracetam is also a new cognitive experience. There is drastic increase in both recollection of dreams and lucid dreaming. Also since your brain is more active there is a big chance you will wake up as soon as you finish a needed number of sleep cycles. So the fact is don’t take Piracetam late if you don’t need it. Get your good night’s sleep and pick your battles.



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Posted 12 July 2010 - 03:56 PM

I've noticed a couple of things playing with the dosing.

1) A large dose at night makes me sensitive in the morning. I.e. the previous dose affects the current dose.
2) 8 hours apart is a better dosing than after 5 hours. Taken too close together an the second dose feels worse than the first.
This could be why I was feeling irritable later in the day, but felt good in the morning early afternoon.

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Posted 12 July 2010 - 04:07 PM

Based on this I've been dosing every 8 hours (7am, 3pm, 11pm) and it has been much much better. I'm also going to try alpha-gpc and see if that makes a difference.

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 07:32 AM

Piracetam makes me feel a little weird when I take it during the day. I can take at night and wake up fine. Would I get the full benefit if I only take it at night in one large dose?


Because of the last few posts of yours I read, I decided to take a bit of piracetam before bed. I was about to go to sleep (I haven't started to incorporate choline yet, so this past day piracetam has been making me sleepy and sorta irritable), and I figured a microdose would be worth a shot. I took a 16th of a teaspoon (less than 200mg). Now I'm wide awake. FFFFFUUUUUUUU... >_<

Lol. Now I know what doesn't work for me XD

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Posted 23 July 2010 - 04:27 PM

For the record I'm no longer taking this at night. When I did I would end up waking up after 5-6 hours of sleep. I could fall back alseep, but after a while it was clear that it was negatively impacting my sleep. It might be good If I knew needed to get in 6 hours instead of 7 or 8.




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