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#181 Logan

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 07:38 PM

Is there anything specific in your regimen that would give you reason to want to boost testosterone? How old are you again? Late 20s right? I'm just thinking that at your age with a good weight training regimen, you should be able to maintain very healthy levels of testosterone. reduce testosterone levels.

I tried D-Aspartic Acid, it gave my urine the strong smell of cat piss and I didn't notice much from it. Maybe Testforce would be a more effective DAA product.
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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:27 PM

Is there anything specific in your regimen that would give you reason to want to boost testosterone? How old are you again? Late 20s right? I'm just thinking that at your age with a good weight training regimen, you should be able to maintain very healthy levels of testosterone. reduce testosterone levels.

I tried D-Aspartic Acid, it gave my urine the strong smell of cat piss and I didn't notice much from it. Maybe Testforce would be a more effective DAA product.


Correct, my lifestyle choices and age do not make me susceptible to a worrying decline in testosterone levels. But testosterone repletion is the impetus behind the product design, so I listed it as a secondary benefit. The cognitive benefits of taking a combination of aspartic acid and sarcosine are what most interested me, because I've become convinced of the critical role that NMDA receptor behavior plays in several domains of cognition, with neuroplasticity perhaps being the most important. In truth, though, I don't think that the popular testosterone boosting products yield anything greatly exceeding small statistically significant changes in serum testosterone. Which means that more serious parties should either ask for a prescription for encapsulated testosterone, or use one of several other channels to procure this agent.
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#183 Rational Madman

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:39 PM

I strongly disapprove. You forgot the disclaimer but I will do it for you: Kids, don't try this at home!


You're absolutely right, and from henceforth, discussion will be confined to agents that can be procured through normal channels. However, private inquiries about the additional constituents of my cocktail will be responded to in some circumstances provided that they not be posted or discussed in any imminst threads. I want to echo Kismet's comments, and urge users to not proceed carelessly with the use of prescription drugs.


Do you hope to work for the State Department in the future? If so, you may have some interesting security interviews to look forward too.



Well, I appreciate the sanctimonious concern, but I've already been subjected to background checks, and without incident. And I've interned at the State Department before, so I have no concerns about future employment at Foggy Bottom. But in any case, I have plenty of employment options. Furthermore, I blend in with considerable ease, which I suppose is made easier by the fact that my private life isn't confined to attending Highlander conventions.


I wasn't being sanctimonious, just trying to give you a heads up. I've avoided the use of any non-prescribed pharmaceuticals, scheduled or otherwise, just to avoid uncomfortable questions. Best of luck to you.

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE! :dry:


In my experience, authorized and unauthorized use of prescription pharmaceutical for performance enhancement is so pervasive that no one really cares much anymore. So they have somewhat of DADT policy, and only take action if one's work suffers. In investment banking, for instance, the level of abuse is pretty shocking, with even senior supervisors providing psychostimulants to underlings in order to meet deadlines. It's also pretty bad in higher levels of education, where you'll find many professors confessing to using drugs like Modafinil to get jacked up for a lecture. Personally, I think performance enhancement is almost requisite for competing with your colleagues, and in accordance with the schools of philosophy that guide many life-extensionists.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:50 PM

Highlander is awesome.



The original was okay, but the sequels and series were truly dreadful to watch. I've always had a preference for higher science fiction, like Arthur C. Clarke, Phillip K. Dick, and Kubrick's adaptation of 2001: A Space Odyssey----which I consider to be one of the most perfectly constructed films in cinematic history. Although I do admit that I've watched my fair share of the very campy Star Trek, and actually have phaser used in The Next Generation series. But I haven't actually visited any conventions---even though I've had plenty of opportunities---because I'm a bit creeped out by the intensity of the following, in a way similar to Leonard Nimoy and William Shatner.

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Posted 25 January 2011 - 11:52 PM

Highlander is awesome.

This probably doesn't belong in a forum about trying to live longer, but I'll write it for the Highlander fans out there.
In college, I saw some people play a drinking game to the first highlander. The rules were that you had to drink a beer every time the time jumped or someone got killed. In order to win you had to not vomit or urinate for the duration of the film and the credits, at which point the winner gets to yell "There can only be one!" Most people are incapable of doing this (it's right under two hours and around 20 beers), but I knew two who did. Do with this knowledge what you will.:-D


Does that number include the number of fatalities from the battle at the beginning of the film?

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 03:30 AM

Highlander is awesome.

This probably doesn't belong in a forum about trying to live longer, but I'll write it for the Highlander fans out there.
In college, I saw some people play a drinking game to the first highlander. The rules were that you had to drink a beer every time the time jumped or someone got killed. In order to win you had to not vomit or urinate for the duration of the film and the credits, at which point the winner gets to yell "There can only be one!" Most people are incapable of doing this (it's right under two hours and around 20 beers), but I knew two who did. Do with this knowledge what you will.:-D


Does that number include the number of fatalities from the battle at the beginning of the film?

As you might imagine, I do not have the best memory about this game. I do remember there being somewhat long stretches without any beer and then a number of beers in a short amount of time. It was something like 15-20 beers all in all. If two people made it to the end (a very unlikely coincidence) then it would come down to who had to urinate first. Not exactly life extending stuff, but worth trying for people with a high tolerance to alcohol and a very large bladder who want to scream "There can only be one!"

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Posted 26 January 2011 - 07:04 AM

Highlander is awesome.

This probably doesn't belong in a forum about trying to live longer, but I'll write it for the Highlander fans out there.
In college, I saw some people play a drinking game to the first highlander. The rules were that you had to drink a beer every time the time jumped or someone got killed. In order to win you had to not vomit or urinate for the duration of the film and the credits, at which point the winner gets to yell "There can only be one!" Most people are incapable of doing this (it's right under two hours and around 20 beers), but I knew two who did. Do with this knowledge what you will.:-D


Does that number include the number of fatalities from the battle at the beginning of the film?

As you might imagine, I do not have the best memory about this game. I do remember there being somewhat long stretches without any beer and then a number of beers in a short amount of time. It was something like 15-20 beers all in all. If two people made it to the end (a very unlikely coincidence) then it would come down to who had to urinate first. Not exactly life extending stuff, but worth trying for people with a high tolerance to alcohol and a very large bladder who want to scream "There can only be one!"


Yeah, as I remember, the antagonist of the film killed at least 20 in this first engagement. Maybe Connor could enlighten us if he cares to comment.

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 10:34 AM

In my experience, authorized and unauthorized use of prescription pharmaceutical for performance enhancement is so pervasive that no one really cares much anymore. So they have somewhat of DADT policy...


If you need a security clearance -- and if you work at the State department it seems like you almost certainly would eventually -- then you'll probably be asked about this. I can't recall the wording, but I'm fairly certain the SF-86 asks about the use of pharmaceuticals without a prescription; and this will also come up in subsequent face to face interviews with the folks from OPM. It may not be a big deal, but even small, slightly "off" things can lead to uncomfortable lines of questioning.
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Posted 27 January 2011 - 11:03 AM

Highlander is awesome.

This probably doesn't belong in a forum about trying to live longer, but I'll write it for the Highlander fans out there.
In college, I saw some people play a drinking game to the first highlander. The rules were that you had to drink a beer every time the time jumped or someone got killed. In order to win you had to not vomit or urinate for the duration of the film and the credits, at which point the winner gets to yell "There can only be one!" Most people are incapable of doing this (it's right under two hours and around 20 beers), but I knew two who did. Do with this knowledge what you will.:-D


Does that number include the number of fatalities from the battle at the beginning of the film?

As you might imagine, I do not have the best memory about this game. I do remember there being somewhat long stretches without any beer and then a number of beers in a short amount of time. It was something like 15-20 beers all in all. If two people made it to the end (a very unlikely coincidence) then it would come down to who had to urinate first. Not exactly life extending stuff, but worth trying for people with a high tolerance to alcohol and a very large bladder who want to scream "There can only be one!"


Yeah, as I remember, the antagonist of the film killed at least 20 in this first engagement. Maybe Connor could enlighten us if he cares to comment.


No idea. It has been a long time since I saw the movie back in grad school. There was this Highlander II movie that I watched a year or two ago while I was in a holiday food-induced comatose state. I don't remember anything about it other than that it was absolutely horrible.

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Posted 27 January 2011 - 09:18 PM

In my experience, authorized and unauthorized use of prescription pharmaceutical for performance enhancement is so pervasive that no one really cares much anymore. So they have somewhat of DADT policy...


If you need a security clearance -- and if you work at the State department it seems like you almost certainly would eventually -- then you'll probably be asked about this. I can't recall the wording, but I'm fairly certain the SF-86 asks about the use of pharmaceuticals without a prescription; and this will also come up in subsequent face to face interviews with the folks from OPM. It may not be a big deal, but even small, slightly "off" things can lead to uncomfortable lines of questioning.


I appreciate the career perils of using controlled substances without a physician's authorization, especially considering how political this potential occupation can become. However, I have managed to survive in a think tank founded by a conservative strategist and theorist whom was infamously immortalized by a satiric portrayal in a legendary film. So to say the least, I worked in a culture where drug use was frowned upon, of course. But in these organizations, there is a surprising diversity in viewpoints, which makes it possible for the odd man to make political allies, whom can serve as protectors against opposing forces. For someone that makes as many friends as enemies, this sort of protection can be an immense relief, and should I find myself in the State Department, I expect the more politically adept members that I win the affection of will act in a similar capacity as protectors. Otherwise, I can rely on the extreme care that I devote to concealing the more unbecoming aspects of my life.

Edited by Rol82, 27 January 2011 - 09:21 PM.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 04:27 AM

For someone that makes as many friends as enemies, this sort of protection can be an immense relief, and should I find myself in the State Department, I expect the more politically adept members that I win the affection of will act in a similar capacity as protectors. Otherwise, I can rely on the extreme care that I devote to concealing the more unbecoming aspects of my life.


We have random drug tests where I work. Also, lying on the SF-86 or during the clearance process is a felony.

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Posted 28 January 2011 - 07:20 AM

For someone that makes as many friends as enemies, this sort of protection can be an immense relief, and should I find myself in the State Department, I expect the more politically adept members that I win the affection of will act in a similar capacity as protectors. Otherwise, I can rely on the extreme care that I devote to concealing the more unbecoming aspects of my life.


We have random drug tests where I work. Also, lying on the SF-86 or during the clearance process is a felony.


Okay, but I have a prescription for Vyvanse, which I imagine is the only drug in my regimen that would be detected. And if you're right about the felony consequence---which I thought was narrowly applied to more extreme fabrications---then I don't think it would be a great trial to take a break from the other drugs.

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Posted 09 February 2011 - 10:45 AM

Ah rol, long time no see, hope your still doing good on your regime mate, still need to check out the latest updates.

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Posted 10 February 2011 - 01:52 AM

Ah rol, long time no see, hope your still doing good on your regime mate, still need to check out the latest updates.


Thanks, and since I've made a few minor changes, I'll provide another monthly update. But I wouldn't expect any serious departures from my last update.

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Posted 14 April 2011 - 02:44 PM

Ah rol, long time no see, hope your still doing good on your regime mate, still need to check out the latest updates.


Thanks, and since I've made a few minor changes, I'll provide another monthly update. But I wouldn't expect any serious departures from my last update.

Hi Rol, I hope you're doing fine.
Just thought I'd ask you about long-term AChEIs and your thoughts on the potential risks involved since you seem to have taken two of them for quite a while (Donepezil and the huperzine A in Ortho Mind). I know it has been discussed elsewhere on the forum and I've given this some thought myself and I've consequently been weighting the large amount of positive effects (both the studied and subjective) against the more hypothetical yet seemingly grave risks involved but I can't seem to make up my mind due to the lack of studies. Please elucidate any thoughts you might have regarding the matter because I think it warrants some discussion.
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Posted 15 April 2011 - 06:33 PM

Ah rol, long time no see, hope your still doing good on your regime mate, still need to check out the latest updates.


Thanks, and since I've made a few minor changes, I'll provide another monthly update. But I wouldn't expect any serious departures from my last update.

Hi Rol, I hope you're doing fine.
Just thought I'd ask you about long-term AChEIs and your thoughts on the potential risks involved since you seem to have taken two of them for quite a while (Donepezil and the huperzine A in Ortho Mind). I know it has been discussed elsewhere on the forum and I've given this some thought myself and I've consequently been weighting the large amount of positive effects (both the studied and subjective) against the more hypothetical yet seemingly grave risks involved but I can't seem to make up my mind due to the lack of studies. Please elucidate any thoughts you might have regarding the matter because I think it warrants some discussion.

Things are going grand my fellow Scandinavian traveler, it's just that work and my mistress have been commanding a great deal of my attention, and have rendered me somewhat disinclined to take part in message board discussions. To answer your question regarding the potential perils of taking acetylcholinesterase inhibitors, I haven't encountered any plausible research that has given me pause sufficient to cease usage. This doesn't mean that usage is not without potential risks, but even with these possible hazards, I see no other way to address the cholinergic dimensions of so many neuropsychiatric disorders---since the more selective agents fail to pass the blood brain barrier. There are indeed risks to any endeavor, but they can be managed through calibration, and cannot be allowed to cripple human progress. I know that I might be being frustratingly general, and not satisfyingly addressing your more specific concerns, but I've learned that often it behooves us to become less daunted by hypothetical problems. However, if you have a specific concern in mind, I'll be more than happy to address such in this thread or in private messaging.

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Posted 16 April 2011 - 08:57 PM

Ah rol, long time no see, hope your still doing good on your regime mate, still need to check out the latest updates.


Thanks, and since I've made a few minor changes, I'll provide another monthly update. But I wouldn't expect any serious departures from my last update.

Hi Rol, I hope you're doing fine.
Just thought I'd ask you about long-term AChEIs and your thoughts on the potential risks involved since you seem to have taken two of them for quite a while (Donepezil and the huperzine A in Ortho Mind). I know it has been discussed elsewhere on the forum and I've given this some thought myself and I've consequently been weighting the large amount of positive effects (both the studied and subjective) against the more hypothetical yet seemingly grave risks involved but I can't seem to make up my mind due to the lack of studies. Please elucidate any thoughts you might have regarding the matter because I think it warrants some discussion.


In hindsight, I believe my advise provided little or no solace, and given the labor that you've committed to sustaining your trek, I should probably offer some insights of greater currency.

With the administration of acetylcholinesterase inhibitors, the biggest risks would be the downregulation of acetylcholine receptors, dopamine receptors, and an alteration of the conductance of excititory ions (and their cell permeability), and the behavior of the G class of proteins. Fortunately, this disruption is unlikely to be permanent for most subjects, and should be mostly discernible in the instance of missing a dose. However, in the event of a subject deciding to cease usage of an AChEI, a stasis should be assuredly reestablished through your body's homeostatic mechanisms. At the same time, though, because of a plethora of reasons that vary with pathology--be it reduced acetylcholine receptor population, enzymatic dysfunctions, etc---this class of drugs is likely needed for symptomatic improvement. So once again, we have to embark on a trip to the scarcely charted realm of polypharmacy.

If in your case we're just discussing mitigating the potential costs of using an acetylcholinesterase inhibitor, this should be more than sufficiently accomplished through the introduction of an individually determined algorithim of ligands with an affinity for the D2 receptors, muscarinic receptors, 5ht3 rececptors, and the alpha 2 receptors----which among other utilities, will act in concert to increase striatal dopamine and modulate acetylcholine receptors.


So what are the ideal candidates for these targets?
For D2: Modafinil, Methylphenidate, or Cabergoline.
For Alpha 2: Clonidine or Guanfacine.
5ht3 receptors and Nicotinic: Mirtazapine, Ondansetron, or Memantine (if you dare).
Muscarinic: Escitalopram, Sertraline, Fluvoxamine, or Fluoxetine.

But the adventure has yet to end, because as you've imparted, you also have some interest in NMDA, AMPA, and the alpha 7 nicotinic receptors.

Starting with the NMDA and AMPA receptors, your poor response to the Ampakines and NMDA receptor antagonists like Memantine is telling, and indicative of an imbalance between both receptors---because they have a very intimate relationship. Indeed, if you antagonize one site, your body compensates by increasing expression at the other site. So the NMDA receptor should be more of a preferable target, whose behavior should fortuitously be positively affected by stimulants and acetylcholinesterase inhibitors. Unfortunately, though, there are no viable drug candidates for this site (Cycloserine has yielded mostly poor results, and I suspect exogenous testosterone may work only in theory). In my opinion, this leaves aspartic acid and sarcosine at the front of the race---both of which are constituents in the E-Pharm Test Force 2 formulation that I've grown fond of using---but some report success with the use of serine or glycine. To help matters in this regard---but not without burden sharing, a phosphodiesterase inhibitor like Roflumilast, or Tadalafil could be added---which should help ameliorate hypo-NMDA receptor deficits. As for the nicotinic receptors, endeavors to positively manipulate these targets have thus far yielded disappointing results, which I postulate is owing largely to the receptor mediated increase in cycloxygenase expression---which may explain some of the behavioral aberrations with administration of nicotine or the smoking cessation agent Varenicline. So if you're still interested in the alpha7 site, it might be worth grouping an agent like Varenicline with a selective Cox-2 inhibitor, a 5ht3 antagonist, or maybe Bupropion (though I doubt its primary nicotinic target is a source of considerable trouble).

Anyway, an update on my regimen and the direction of my life will be forthcoming. Although consuming, It's somewhat of an exciting period I suppose, because an acceptance of a job offer could transport me to Washington D.C., Austin, New York, or Baghdad. So for now, I need some time to either reconcile or embrace my inner pragmatist and revolutionary.
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Posted 17 April 2011 - 01:05 PM

Ah that post was much more refreshing than your previous post. I appreciate that you took the time to write that and I regret that I'm unable to give it the full attention it deserves for at least a few days, I'll get back to you though since there is much to say about that post. In the meantime I'll simply wish you the best of luck with your important choices!

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 05:07 PM

How much per month do you spend on all these drug/supplements?

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Posted 17 April 2011 - 06:41 PM

How much per month do you spend on all these drug/supplements?


Tens of thousands of Zimbabwean dollars. But seriously, you're a big boy, and I imagine you could come up with a guesstimate if you set aside a few minutes.

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 07:27 PM

And while at my brother's apartment, where he's much more studious, and considerably more agreeable:




How is Hammer? Hard to tell from the photo, he looks like he could be a small-style Pit/mix? Was he a rescue pooch? Regardless, he's one cute dude!

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Posted 23 August 2011 - 07:35 PM

Time for an update? Please? Pretty please? Pretty please with artificial sweetener on top? Have the cold showers been replaced with sweaty saunas at the bath house? What is the current state of your regimen? Seriously, I genuinely enjoy your writing and following your comprehensive, albeit variform supplement program.

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Posted 24 October 2011 - 02:47 PM

Hey there, hows it going mate? Long time no see.

I jumped on pro NMDA bandwagon recently, no longer the prophet of memantine haha.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 12:32 AM

In spite of the apocalyptic climate, things are surprisingly grand in my personal universe. But given my enthusiastic participation in this forum, I suppose my absence may seem a bit peculiar. To be sure, I enjoyed myself immensely here, but I concluded that I was misallocating energy for pretty dubious reasons.

As for your change in focus, I'm glad to you that you've joined the pro-NMDA camp, whose hypo-expression seemed to be usually more causative. However, I suppose there is still the question of how to best stimulate or modulate this site---given the extent of the signaling cascade that it plays a part. I have some ideas, but I'm wary of posting my regimen, since many have wrongly interpreted subjectively successful regimens as panaceas.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 12:33 AM

In spite of the apocalyptic climate, things are surprisingly grand in my personal universe. But given my enthusiastic participation in this forum, I suppose my absence may seem a bit peculiar. To be sure, I enjoyed myself immensely here, but I concluded that I was misallocating energy for pretty dubious reasons.

As for your change in focus, I'm glad to you that you've joined the pro-NMDA camp, whose hypo-expression seemed to be usually more causative. However, I suppose there is still the question of how to best stimulate or modulate this site---given the extent of the signaling cascade that it plays a part. I have some ideas, but I'm wary of posting my regimen, since many have wrongly interpreted subjectively successful regimens as panaceas.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 12:33 AM

In spite of the apocalyptic climate, things are surprisingly grand in my personal universe. But given my enthusiastic participation in this forum, I suppose my absence may seem a bit peculiar. To be sure, I enjoyed myself immensely here, but I concluded that I was misallocating energy for pretty dubious reasons.

As for your change in focus, I'm glad to see that you've joined the pro-NMDA camp, whose hypo-expression seemed to be usually more causative. However, I suppose there is still the question of how to best stimulate or modulate this site---given the extent of the signaling cascade that it plays a part. I have some ideas, but I'm wary of posting my regimen, since many have wrongly interpreted subjectively successful regimens as panaceas.

Without going into specifics, I'll list some of the components of my regimen:

1. Vyvanse
2. Strattera
3. Mirtazapine
4. Vitamin D3
5. Lecithin
6. Selenium
7. Multivitamin
8. Apple cider vinegar, or malt vinegar
9. Liquid Aminos
10. Boron
11. L-Tyrosine
12. Methylfolate
13. Arginine
14. CDP-Choline
15. Goat milk
16. Eggs
17. Spinach
18. Barley
19. Cinnamon sticks---for chewing
20. Oregano---for chewing
21. Garlic cloves---for chewing
22. Cocoa
23. Nicotine
24. Freeze dried coffee
25. Cold showers
26. Melatonin
27. Meditation
28. Moderating sex---but still, I maintain somewhat of a polyamorous relationship.
29. Limiting my alcohol intake---usually spiced spirits and wines.
30. Ample exercise
31. Shiitake mushrooms
32. Peanut butter powder
33. Vegetable powder
34. Olive Oil
35. Licorice
36. Sardines
37. Artichokes
38. Carrots
39. Peppers
40. Black Tea
41. B-Complex
42. Apples
42. Cranberries
43. Satiating my companion's desire for frivolous socializing
44. Going outdoors as much as possible---reading, exercising, working, or socializing.
45. Limiting my time on the Internet
46. Brewer's Yeast
47. The occasional use of Galantamine, Modafinil, or Rasagiline
48. Oh, and I almost forgot Propionyl-L-Carnitine.

Of course, my consumption of the items on this list is spread out over a few days. But in any case, I'll amend the list if I remember anything else.

Edited by Rol82, 08 November 2011 - 04:50 AM.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 03:41 AM

What about cabergoline?

What was it doing for you, and why did you stop it.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 05:19 PM

In spite of the apocalyptic climate, things are surprisingly grand in my personal universe. But given my enthusiastic participation in this forum, I suppose my absence may seem a bit peculiar. To be sure, I enjoyed myself immensely here, but I concluded that I was misallocating energy for pretty dubious reasons.

As for your change in focus, I'm glad to you that you've joined the pro-NMDA camp, whose hypo-expression seemed to be usually more causative. However, I suppose there is still the question of how to best stimulate or modulate this site---given the extent of the signaling cascade that it plays a part. I have some ideas, but I'm wary of posting my regimen, since many have wrongly interpreted subjectively successful regimens as panaceas.

A few idea's:
Aniracetam
Nefiracetam
Sarcosine
D serine
High dose glycine
D aspartic acid
Minocycline
NAC (both deplete synaptic levels but potentiate mglur1 and extrasynaptic levels and upregulation of nmda mglur2/3 (nac)
Nitric oxide interacts with nmda in interesting ways if i'm correct
Astragalus
Ginseng increases synaptic glutamate
Anti muscarinics, both are cognitively impairing
and i beleive NRI's increase synaptic glutamate
Galantamine (alpha 7 PAM)
Nicotine

D cycloserine is a a partional agonist at the glycine site but largely inferior to glycine, dserine and sarcosine.

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Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:13 PM

Aniracetam--Weak half life and bioavailability problems reduce its effectiveness.
Nefiracetam-I've never tried this ampakine, but I wonder why you haven't considered Modafinil before the commercially available ampakines.
Sarcosine-May have some promise, but I've only found this in combination with aspartic acid, which I'm inclined to avoid.
D serine-This is fairly hard to obtain, no? And expensive?
High dose glycine---Not very practical, and in my opinion, it's too sedating. After some positive findings, there was some interest in its use with schizoid subjects, but enthusiasm has waned after experimental results proved disappointing.
D aspartic acid---Too stimulatory, and if one isn't careful, it may easily become excitotoxic---but not to the degree that some hysterics claim. Personally, I found that even small doses resulted in a disturbing tingling/burning sensation in my spine. And because of this, I decided to use moderate amounts of artificial sweeteners---which contain aspartame---instead.
Minocycline-A bit too powerful for uses outside its indication, and if taken monotherapeutically, there might be a problem with reduced transcription.
NAC (both deplete synaptic levels but potentiate mglur1 and extrasynaptic levels and upregulation of nmda mglur2/3 (nac)-Yeah, but this is still pretty weak stuff, and in my opinion, the evidence is underwhelming---even though its supposed to help with just about everything. Instead, I would suggest an increased consumption of cysteine rich foods---like eggs.
Nitric oxide interacts with nmda in interesting ways if i'm correct-Nitric oxide is part of the Protein Kinase A signaling cascade, and should modulate members of the Protein Kinase C cascade. Personally, I use arginine to prevent the onset of hypervigilance, or stimulant induced vasoconstriction---cold hands being the primary indicator.
Astragalus-There is a great deal of potential with this agent, but the positive results have yet to be decisive, and I find myself quite disturbed by some of the more extravagant claims that have been made by distributors and researchers.
Ginseng increases synaptic glutamate-Even with the volume of research, I find this agent to be rather weak. Rather, I think a sodium/potassium combination should offer superior results that are more cost effective.
Anti muscarinics, both are cognitively impairing-When taken monotherapeutically, anti-muscarinics can indeed be cognitive impairing, but when taken in concert with stimulant agents, they can help maintain the therapeutic effectiveness of the latter, and help address gastrointestinal symptoms that might arise with prolonged use---partially through maintaining stable levels of gastic acid secretion.
and i beleive NRI's increase synaptic glutamate-They do indeed, but they're more modulatory at this site, with activation being dosen dependent.
Galantamine (alpha 7 PAM)-Although this agent does activate NMDA receptors indirectly, it can eventually lead to problems with catecholamine response---like Parkinson's, etc.
Nicotine-Probably the best bet, but subjectively, I find cigar and pipe tobacco to be the most efficacious---especially in terms of motivation, and the alleviation of gastrointestinal distress. By itself, nicotine delivers effects that are certainly stimulatory, but not as immunomodulatory, or pleasureful as the aforementioned. And if you're fond of historical biographies, you might find the extent of its use by the greatest minds of the Enlightenment to be somewhat shocking.

Edited by Rol82, 07 November 2011 - 09:47 PM.


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Posted 07 November 2011 - 09:32 PM

What about cabergoline?

What was it doing for you, and why did you stop it.


To be honest, I think I was too cautious with my use of Cabergoline---given its half life and indication. And because it was combined a larger cocktail, I wasn't really able to discern its relative effect. Of more importance, its price is what deterred me for the most part---that, and re-reading some of the works of Goethe. In theory, it might have some potential, but studies have been largely confined to its primary indication. Additionally, its strong affinity with some dopamine receptors may lead to the onset of hypotension, fatigue, and varied metabolic issues. However, these issues can be managed, though, and if you're interested, I suppose its worth a trial of some sort, especially since other drugs of its class have been used successfully outside of their indication---e.g. Mirapex.




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