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[unipolar_mania]

It's true. I know nootropic (or James).

[nootropi]

Why the hell would 1FAST400 and I be online at the same time?  Obviously we are not the same person.

Okay, I have edited my posts according to this new data. I just do hope that you other members see that nootropic stole my avatar and went ahead with a line of questioning that was only directed at 1fast400 and this member had never contributed anything else to the discussion here.

[nootropi]

Well okay, we will see if that is the case.

But it goes to show that I am paying close attention to what is going on here.

Firstly, why would somebody come to this forum and steal my avatar and logo and begin a line of questioning that is aimed directly at 1fast400?

You must admit that should make me suspicious...so please, nootropic, establish yourself in some conversations here about nootropics!

[nootropi]

Hell I actually thought you asked the question nootropi, I didn't realize it was a different name till you just posted that. 



I have a computer at my house, yes.  However, I work nootropi, for usually 12-14h a day.  I'm not running home to make a post.  Do a simple check if you don't believe me.  God I've never seen anyone so paranoid in my life.

Ha ha, you are right this time, I do apologise. However, I still think you need to take more steps to involve your customers in the assay process.

[nootropic]

I still think you need to take more steps to involve your customers in the assay process

Yes, I would love to see that too.

[jokerace]

Nootropi -

I didn't see the avatar that you say NootropiC was using. If he was in fact using the same avatar then maybe someone is playing a game. If not, there is no real reason to believe that it is the intention of someone calling themselves Nootropic (on a message board about Nootropics) to trick people into thinking it is you - Nootropi.

I have been observing your behavior lately and have noticed a distinct change. You have been very paranoid and very quick to accuse people of elaborate schemes. For all I know you could be right about any one of them. Chances are though that you could not be right about all of them. So therefore logic leads me to believe that you are probably wrong about all of them.

You accused Scottl of not being an MD. You accused Magr of being a smi2le competitor out to deceive people in order to score more customers. Now you have accused this other person of being an impostor.

On top of all of that, you have insulted almost everyone in the past week by either telling them you don't trust them, that their logic is flawed, that they are fools, or that they have no credibility.

Now may be the time for some quiet reflection. Before responding to this message, think about the way things REALLY have been. I'm not saying that you are going to want to apologize to any one, but I hope you may see that something has been different.

Please take me seriously when I ask - could it be something in your stack? Something new that you have added? Is something else stressing you out?

I hope that whatever it is, you can work it out. If I can be of any assistance, don't hesitate to ask.



I have since seen that you found out that Nootropic is a REAL person. Please still consider the thoughts I have shared with you. I think it was cool that you apologized about the impostor thing.

[nootropi]

Nootropi -

I didn't see the avatar that you say NootropiC was using.  If he was in fact using the same avatar then maybe someone is playing a game.  If not, there is no real reason to believe that it is the intention of someone calling themselves Nootropic (on a message board about Nootropics) to trick people into thinking it is you - Nootropi.

I have been observing your behavior lately and have noticed a distinct change.  You have been very paranoid and very quick to accuse people of elaborate schemes.  For all I know you could be right about any one of them.  Chances are though that you could not be right about all of them.  So therefore logic leads me to believe that you are probably wrong about all of them.

You accused Scottl of not being an MD.  You accused Magr of being a smi2le competitor out to deceive people in order to score more customers.  Now you have accused this other person of being an impostor.

On top of all of that, you have insulted almost everyone in the past week by either telling them you don't trust them, that their logic is flawed, that they are fools, or that they have no credibility.

Now may be the time for some quiet reflection.  Before responding to this message, think about the way things REALLY have been.  I'm not saying that you are going to want to apologize to any one, but I hope you may see that something has been different.

Please take me seriously when I ask - could it be something in your stack?  Something new that you have added?  Is something else stressing you out?

I hope that whatever it is, you can work it out.  If I can be of any assistance, don't hesitate to ask.

Nope, your instinct is wrong, and the nootropic character did steal my logo and avatar, which of couse will piss me off. Thank you for your concern. I do appreciate that.

I am one of those kinds of people who say what I think right when it comes to mind. So if I say something I later consider to be incorrect, I state so. I am a real time person, you will get nothing other than the true nootropi out of me!

Be well.

[todd_lee]

At the Avant board Nootropi (adamP2P) said that he is schizophrenic. This explains his paranoid behavior.

I have reading through various posts at this forum and have noticed that nearly every one in which nootropi appears ends in an argument. Nootropi unequivocally needs to address his behavior.

[Mike M]

I just find it funny that people bust my balls on my products yet nobody seems to question rizzer. Anyone find it odd that nootropi is the only one that has really tested anything? He is also the one that defends rizzer to such an extreme that it turns people off? What about the DEA, we have some proof it never happened? I have COA's of all my products. You guys just make me laugh sometimes.

Nootropi, you've shown how paranoid you are. You have shown that you use little to no logic with anything that might involve me. I think you need to take a break from the boards and this situation as a whole. It is obvious it has gotten to you.

[nootropi]

I just find it funny that people bust my balls on my products yet nobody seems to question rizzer.  Anyone find it odd that nootropi is the only one that has really tested anything?  He is also the one that defends rizzer to such an extreme that it turns people off?  What about the DEA, we have some proof it never happened?  I have COA's of all my products.  You guys just make me laugh sometimes.

Nootropi, you've shown how paranoid you are.  You have shown that you use little to no logic with anything that might involve me.  I think you need to take a break from the boards and this situation as a whole.  It is obvious it has gotten to you.

Well first I need to be honest with everybody. I have every disorder ever known to man.

Here is the short list of the disorders I have:

Word  Definition 
ablutomania  mania for washing oneself 
aboulomania  pathological indecisiveness 
agromania  intense desire to be in open spaces 
andromania  nymphomania 
anglomania  craze or obsession with England and the English 
anthomania  obsession with flowers 
aphrodisiomania  abnormal sexual interest 
arithmomania  obsessive preoccupation with numbers 
balletomania  abnormal fondness for ballet 
bibliomania  craze for books or reading 
bruxomania  compulsion for grinding teeth 
cacodemomania  pathological belief that one is inhabited by an evil spirit 
catapedamania  obsession with jumping from high places 
chinamania  obsession with collecting china 
choreomania  dancing mania or frenzy 
clinomania  excessive desire to stay in bed 
copromania  obsession with feces 
cytheromania  nymphomania 
dacnomania  obsession with killing 
demonomania  pathological belief that one is possessed by demons 
dinomania  mania for dancing 
dipsomania  abnormal craving for alcohol 
discomania  obsession for disco music 
doramania  obsession with owning furs 
doromania  obsession with giving gifts 
drapetomania  intense desire to run away from home 
dromomania  compulsive longing for travel 
ecdemomania  abnormal compulsion for wandering 
egomania  irrational self-centered attitude or self-worship 
eleutheromania  manic desire for freedom 
empleomania  mania for holding public office 
enosimania  pathological belief that one has sinned 
entheomania  abnormal belief that one is divinely inspired 
epomania  craze for writing epics 
ergasiomania  excessive desire to work; ergomania 
ergomania  excessive desire to work; workaholism 
erotomania  abnormally powerful sex drive 
etheromania  craving for ether 
ethnomania  obsessive devotion to one's own people 
eulogomania  obsessive craze for eulogies 
flagellomania  abnormal enthusiasm for flogging 
florimania  craze for flowers 
francomania  craze or obsession with France and the French 
gallomania  craze or obsession with France and the French 
gamomania  obsession with issuing odd marriage proposals 
Graecomania  obsession with Greece and the Greeks 
graphomania  obsession with writing 
gynaecomania  abnormal sexual obsession with women 
habromania  insanity featuring cheerful delusions 
hagiomania  mania for sainthood 
Hellenomania  obsession with Greece and the Greeks; Graecomania 
hexametromania  mania for writing in hexameter 
hieromania  pathological religious visions or delusions 
hippomania  obsession with horses 
hydromania  irrational craving for water 
hylomania  excessive tendency towards materialism 
hypermania  severe mania 
hypomania  minor mania 
hysteromania  nymphomania 
iconomania  obsession with icons or portraits 
idolomania  obsession or devotion to idols 
infomania  excessive devotion to accumulating facts 
islomania  craze or obsession for islands 
Italomania  obsession with Italy or Italians 
kleptomania  irrational predilection for stealing 
klopemania  kleptomania 
logomania  pathological loquacity 
lypemania  extreme pathological mournfulness 
macromania  delusion that objects are larger than natural size 
megalomania  abnormal tendency towards grand or grandiose behaviour 
melomania  craze for music 
methomania  morbid craving for alcohol 
metromania  insatiable desire for writing verse 
micromania  pathological self-deprecation or belief that one is very small 
monomania  abnormal obsession with a single thought or idea 
morphinomania  habitual craving or desire for morphine 
musomania  obsession with music 
mythomania  lying or exaggerating to an abnormal extent 
narcomania  uncontrollable craving for narcotics 
necromania  sexual obsession with dead bodies; necrophilia 
nosomania  delusion of suffering from a disease 
nostomania  abnormal desire to go back to familiar places 
nymphomania  excessive or crazed sexual desire 
oenomania  obsession or craze for wine 
oligomania  obsession with a few thoughts or ideas 
oniomania  mania for making purchases 
onomamania  mania for names 
onomatomania  irresistible desire to repeat certain words 
onychotillomania  compulsive picking at the fingernails 
opiomania  craving for opium 
opsomania  abnormal love for one kind of food 
orchidomania  abnormal obsession with orchids 
parousiamania  obsession with the second coming of Christ 
pathomania  moral insanity 
peotillomania  abnormal compulsion for pulling on the penis 
phagomania  excessive desire for food or eating 
phaneromania  habit of biting one’s nails 
pharmacomania  abnormal obsession with trying drugs 
phonomania  pathological tendency to murder 
photomania  pathological desire for light 
phyllomania  excessive or abnormal production of leaves 
phytomania  obsession with collecting plants 
planomania  abnormal desire to wander and disobey social norms 
plutomania  mania for money 
polemomania  mania for war 
politicomania  mania for politics 
polkamania  craze for polka dancing 
polymania  mania affecting several different mental faculties 
poriomania  abnormal compulsion to wander 
pornomania  obsession with pornography 
potichomania  craze for imitating Oriental porcelain 
potomania  abnormal desire to drink alcohol 
pseudomania  irrational predilection for lying 
pteridomania  passion for ferns 
pyromania  craze for starting fires 
rhinotillexomania  compulsive nose picking 
rinkomania  obsession with skating 
satyromania  abnormally great male sexual desire; satyriasis 
scribbleomania  obsession with scribbling 
sebastomania  religious insanity 
sitiomania  morbid aversion to food 
sophomania  delusion that one is incredibly intelligent 
squandermania  irrational propensity for spending money wastefully 
stampomania  obsession with stamp-collecting 
syphilomania  pathological belief that one is afflicted with syphilis 
technomania  craze for technology 
Teutomania  obsession with Teutonic or German things 
thanatomania  belief that one has been affected by death magic, and resulting illness 
theatromania  craze for going to plays 
theomania  belief that one is a god 
timbromania  craze for stamp collecting 
tomomania  irrational predilection for performing surgery 
toxicomania  morbid craving for poisons 
trichotillomania  neurosis where patient pulls out own hair 
tulipomania  obsession with tulips 
typhomania  delirious state resulting from typhus fever 
typomania  craze for printing one’s lucubrations 
uranomania  obsession with the idea of divinity 
verbomania  craze for words 
xenomania  inordinate attachment to foreign things 
zoomania  insane fondness for animals 

Anyways, 1fast400 your arguments are stale, to say the least; for example, when you begin to draw conclusions it is quite apparent that you have limited intellectual capacity, as you frequently repeat yourself and expect different results somehow everytime.

I can tell that you are not very well endowed intellectually. Not that not being well educated is the ultimate determinant of intelligence, but surely one must wonder how somebody with your website in the business you are engaged in does not even have a simple quality control system in place to protect your customers from contaminants that may be deadly. In fact, I have exposed several flaws that have caused you to ship out a falsely labeled product. At least Rizzer WILL ALLOW ANY CUSTOMER TO ASSAY HIS PRODUCTS. When you come to this community and start talking your nonsense, people are actually MORE drawn towards Rizzer's business; simply because the members of this forum are (quite) a bit more intelligent than yourself and see right through your bullshit. I am going to be coordinating the testing of Rizzer's products with several members of this very forum.

You keep getting hit over the head with the same fact based logic matrix and you can't even comprehend it because you are deluded by I guess an overdose of prohormones; I am not sure. But you really need to drop the class now because your set of delusions is not compelling enough to be considered passing material.

Once again, let me remind you (as you seem to need to be reminded a lot of these matters): Rizzer will let anybody test his products, and the fact is you won't. So shut up and stop complaining about this community having greater respect for Rizzer for having more respect for us than you do. [wis]

[Mike M]

does not even have a simple quality control system in place to protect your customers from contaminants that may be deadly.

Testing twice and having those results isn't enough for you?

At least Rizzer WILL ALLOW ANY CUSTOMER TO ASSAY HIS PRODUCTS.

It is a free country. I can't prevent anyone from doing anything.

simply because the members of this forum are (quite) a bit more intelligent than yourself and see right through your bullshit.

Yes, they see right through me. Yet, you were the one that had to edit your post because you went spastic because you thought I was posting as someone else. Quite funny.

You keep getting hit over the head with the same fact based logic matrix and you can't even comprehend it because you are deluded by I guess an overdose of prohormones; I am not sure. But you really need to drop the class now because your set of delusions is not compelling enough to be considered passing material. Once again, let me remind you (as you seem to need to be reminded a lot of these matters): Rizzer will let anybody test his products, and the fact is you won't. So shut up and stop complaining about this community having greater respect for Rizzer for having more respect for us than you do

You do realize this thread started with "another smi2le.biz horror story". Meaning there was another thread that started out as an original. People just want their stuff delivered, rizzer seems to have a problem with that. He has lied about the DEA raiding his place. The DEA doesn't even know who he is. Who is the liar again?

[eternaltraveler]

Nootropi, and everyone else involved. Personal insults need to stay out of this. Stick to addressing people's ideas.

I am glad, that unlike rizzer, 1fast400 actually takes the time to address issues that come his way. You blantantly insult him repeatedly and expect him not to respond in some measure of kind? Don't be ridiculous. Please stop this emotional tirade. It is against Immst's constitution.

Anyways, 1fast400 your arguments are stale, to say the least; for example, when you begin to draw conclusions it is quite apparent that you have limited intellectual capacity, as you frequently repeat yourself and expect different results somehow everytime. 

I can tell that you are not very well endowed intellectually.  Not that not being well educated is the ultimate determinant of intelligence, but surely one must wonder how somebody with your website in the business you are engaged in does not even have a simple quality control system in place to protect your customers from contaminants that may be deadly.  In fact, I have exposed several flaws that have caused you to ship out a falsely labeled product.  At least Rizzer WILL ALLOW ANY CUSTOMER TO ASSAY HIS PRODUCTS.  When you come to this community and start talking your nonsense, people are actually MORE drawn towards Rizzer's business; simply because the members of this forum are (quite) a bit more intelligent than yourself and see right through your bullshit.  I am going to be coordinating the testing of Rizzer's products with several members of this very forum. 

You keep getting hit over the head with the same fact based logic matrix and you can't even comprehend it because you are deluded by I guess an overdose of prohormones; I am not sure.  But you really need to drop the class now because your set of delusions is not compelling enough to be considered passing material.

Once again, let me remind you (as you seem to need to be reminded a lot of these matters): Rizzer will let anybody test his products, and the fact is you won't.  So shut up and stop complaining about this community having greater respect for Rizzer for having more respect for us than you do.

[running_sheep]

Do not post anything else on this topic (not even one comment). Let it die now. Let's get back to discussing nootropics.

[pinballwizard]

Do not post anything else on this topic (not even one comment).  Let it die now.  Let's get back to discussing nootropics.

I like Nootropi, I just had to say that. He might be a little to gung ho on Nootropics and SMI2LE... Diversity of opinion is good. Ok, now I will let it die.

[nootropi]

Do not post anything else on this topic (not even one comment). 
Let it die now.  Let's get back to discussing nootropics.

Topic dead

I won't even read the comments above, to ensure that this topic remains dead.

But once again I would like to highlight a little bit of the irony of this situation.

We have sales people in this forum, is that a recognized fact?

Yes.

Is this forum's mission to sell nootropic suppliers?

No.

Should suppilers come here and argue about the merits of their business as opposed to a competitior's?

Certainly.

Should the members of this forum work together to find the best supplier of nootropics, who has the most to offer us?

Yes!

Does anybody NOT agree that Chinese imports may have levels of metal content and other dangerous contaminants, that, when taken even in small, minute doses over long periods of time, could potentially be deadly?

Here is something most of you may not have considered yet; so I will try to say it well, so I need not repeat myself:
Do you guys know that of all things that may be endangering your life, the single most deadly action you are taking is taking your nootropics? Why? How? Well let's think about it for a second. Life extensionists and nootropics ingest more supplements than any other category of humans on this planet. Let me use a simple example, so I won't lose anybody here. Every day, I ingest 2 GRAMS of piracetam, 1 GRAM of Aniracetam, and 1.25 GRAMS of OXIRACETAM. So right there is 4.25 GRAMS of racetams per day. Now, assuming I stick to this regimen for one year, one year's total ingestion would come out to be 1551.25 GRAMS per year. One pound is approximately 454 grams, so in one year I would thus be ingesting 3.41 POUNDS or 1.546750084 KILOGRAMS of these products per year. Now, consider that that figure is only the RACETAM category of my regimen. Now, consider that ALL of these products come from China, a country well known for exporting pharmaceuticals with high levels of what are identified to be unsafe contaminants, such as heavy metals. So, now, consider the irony here. We are supposed to be EXTENDING OR ENHANCING our quality of life with these supplements, right? Some of these drugs are even supposed to make us "smarter," right? So what good does it do for us if we are taking supplements that are supposed to be enhancing our quality of life when in fact we may be doing the exact opposite by sitting back and letting companies sell us products without being accountable for their purity? Don't you guys think that there should be extra care and consideration taken for the fact that these Chinese imports may be deadly? I surely do think so.

The real issue here is actually quite simple: I just don't really trust one person to look out for my livelyhood. Therefore, even if Rizzer (or 1fast400) stated that was he was testing each of his products under HPLC specification and uploaded the results at a testing website, I might not be satisfied (certain variations of vendor based quality control models have conflict of interest concerns). Why? Because I don't trust either THAT much. However, I do trust that working with the members of this very community to submit samples will be a much more effective way to at least TRY to ensure our safety. And let us suppose that a product comes out negative? Then it will be pulled, and everybody will get their money back. But you see, we have a vendor whom is willing to work with us to take steps towards safety.

I will be coordinating this Imminst-based testing around December 15, hoping to have the results (with the help of this community) by December 23. I will start a new conversation thread around December 11th to establish whom is submitting what samples, etc. Anybody who wants to contribute funds to this testing project will recieve store credit at smi2le.biz. I plan on spending $1,000 USD on this project. I am going to try to bargain with Analytical Laboratories In Anaheim to get the most tests performed for the dollar.

I have to get to work now, I won't be in the forums that much over the next couple of weeks, so if you flame me, don't expect a response; and please respect the fact that I have other things in my life going on besides being nootropi.

Be Well.

[geigertube]

At least Rizzer WILL ALLOW ANY CUSTOMER TO ASSAY HIS PRODUCTS. 

Anyone can assay anything they like. 1fast400 just won't pay for it. This is not an unusual position for a supplement seller.

Steven

[magr]

Do not post anything else on this topic (not even one comment). 
Let it die now.  Let's get back to discussing nootropics.

Topic dead

How did we come to this? Thank you anyway.

Be well.

You are pissed off when somebody 'steals' your avatar but you use QHI's 'signature'.

?


This topic isn't dead until i get what i paid for.

UPDATE!
I haven't recieved a thing, no emails, no products.


A quote from smi2le.biz:
if you have any questions don't hesitate to e-mail me. We try to respond to all email quickly


I am upset, yes. For you guys who love rizzer i have not contacted my credit card company yet. I don't want to screw things up for you.
On monday i will.

[icarusfalling]

TOPIC DEAD

[eternaltraveler]

topic alive

[dish]

Hahaha.

[magr]

WTF is this?

Quote from smi2le.biz:

4/20/04
SMI2LE open for .bizness!

[eternaltraveler]

hopefully it means you'll be getting your order any time now and we can stop talking about this

[todd_lee]

Since when was he closed?

[unipolar_mania]

I gave up on that place a long time ago.

[beggars_banquet]

His site has been "refreshed" http://www.smi2le.biz/

Quote:

11/25/04
Backorders have been shipped and our new website and order process is coming soon. We are in stock and shipping all products next business day except for R-lipoic acid and sulbutiamine which will be shipped as soon as they come in. Special: Order 4 of any product and get 1 free; Order 10 of any product and get 3 free. (Note: Except for Idebenone and L-Theanine which are buy one get one free and buy 2 get one free) Check back soon for our new website with many new products.

[stellar]

Time to get some theanine and take larger doses than 200mg

[geigertube]

I just recieved the last of my shipment from Rizzer. He seems to be back in the swing of things, so I'll be ordering more stuff pronto.

Steven

[nootropi]

I just recieved the last of my shipment from Rizzer.  He seems to be back in the swing of things, so I'll be ordering more stuff pronto.

Steven

I still think this forum (and several members who post in it) needs to focus much more on nootropics and not on how or whom we get them from. How or whom we get our nootropics should not be the focus of the discussions, in my opinion. It seems that most of the recent posts have been directed at customer service issues.

[sparticle]

[quote]I still think this forum (and several members who post in it) needs to focus much more on nootropics and not on how or whom we get them from. How or whom we get our nootropics should not be the focus of the discussions, in my opinion. It seems that most of the recent posts have been directed at customer service issues.

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This comming from the person who turned this thread into *yet another* multi-paged, blithering tirade against 1fast400 (!)

I have never in my life seen internet forum behaviour such as this...

Seriously Nootropi, without your maniacal, supplier-related posts this forum would be a relaxed and mellow place...

If I had to guess the pathology it would be Narcissistic Personality Disorder (NPD) - do a google search on that -

- it's an awful thing to have because Narcissists are never wrong, they're the only sane person in a world of insane people, and so, unlike other pathologies, rarely ever come around to even considering that what needs changing is themselves...

Sorry to be so blunt...

[todd_lee]

I could not agree more. ImmInst.org should not have pushed this matter aside. Lazarus Long is doing a very poor job at this forum.