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[canz]

I stumbled upon T-100 by AOR for thyroid support and it looks like a decent product. I feel that I may be suffering from sub clinical hypothyroidism. I've got all of the symptoms, yet my blood work comes back fine for all hormone levels.

Has anyone tried the T-100 by AOR and is it a good product? If not, are there any similar products out there that are just as effective to help boost thyroid function? Thanks.

[nameless]

What were your thyroid levels? Besides TSH, did you get Free T3, Free T4 and antibodies tested?

The definition of 'fine' hormone levels can differ by doctor.

If you don't get enough iodine from diet, I suppose you could try a supplement, something like this -- http://www.iherb.com...ablets/767?at=0

at maybe half or a quarter tablet daily. But if you take a multi with iodine in it already, I don't think more would necessarily help.

[rwac]

You might also want to test Reverse T3 levels, which blocks T3.

[canz]

What were your thyroid levels? Besides TSH, did you get Free T3, Free T4 and antibodies tested?

The definition of 'fine' hormone levels can differ by doctor.

If you don't get enough iodine from diet, I suppose you could try a supplement, something like this -- http://www.iherb.com...ablets/767?at=0

at maybe half or a quarter tablet daily. But if you take a multi with iodine in it already, I don't think more would necessarily help.

I don't know what my levels were...it's been about 6 months, and I'm pretty sure they only tested TSH.

I currently don't take a multi vitamin...I've been searching for a good one for the past couple months since I ran out of ADAM by NOW.

[nameless]

The first step I'd recommend is getting a full thyroid workup. See your family doctor or find a good endocrinologist (they may take several months to get an appointment with though). Or if you are friendly with any other types of doctors, you could always ask them to write a script too.

Ask for TSH, Free T3, Free T4 and thyroid antibodies. And you can ask for reverse T3, like rwac mentioned too, although some docs may not be willing to test for that -- it may not even be easy getting a doc to test beyond TSH.

If they seem hesitant to test, mention that thyroid disease happens to run in your family (even if not necessarily true) and you are having some symptoms.

I think a baseline would be useful, and even if your TSH is 'normal', your T3/T4 could be low, or your antibodies high, etc.

Edited by nameless, 15 August 2011 - 11:19 PM.

[rwac]

You can even get a test without a prescription if your doctor doesn't want to do it.

Edited by rwac, 16 August 2011 - 12:43 AM.

[Luminosity]

I used to run a support group for people with certain health problems. A number of them had thyroid problems too. I heard a number of people tell me the they passed the thyroid test but had symptoms. When they were medicated for thyroid problems, they felt better. They also said that they preferred one of the medicines, maybe it was more natural, or had a different mix of those T things. I heard that from multiple people.

I believe that the tests are missing people. I'm not a fan of western medicine myself, but if you want to try it, you could try and get a doctor to write you a script for thyroid medicine and take it even if you don't test positive. If you find a support group for people with thyroid conditions in your area, that might be useful. As them what doctors they like.

Skipping meals, fasting, dieting and not keeping comfortably warm might make low thyroid worse; it could set your body's thermostat on "power save" by slowing your metabolism. One thing I noticed about people with thyroid conditions was that sometimes their hair was sparse, and more commonly, their sweat smelled like somewhat rancid vegetable oil mixed with sea water.

[nameless]

Some people feel better using dessicated thyroid, which is made from pork (usually). Armour Thyroid is a popular brand -- I assume this is what Luminosity is referring to. Everyone is different there, some do better with T4 only (synthroid), some with T3/T4 (Armour), or some with synthetic T3 (cytomel).

And when people say they 'passed' the thyroid test, I expect they are referring to TSH. TSH alone does not tell the whole story, hence why some people feel better taking meds even if a doctor tells them their TSH is normal.

But it may be very very difficult to find any doctor willing to prescribe thyroid medicines without testing (I'd say impossible). I feel testing is accurate, so long as you get a full thyroid workup. In some cases, that may involve a thyroid ultrasound too.

[tham]

Woman with Hashimoto's and interstitial cystitis
saved by Swanson's selenium yeast (SelenoExcell)
and tocopherol succinate.


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(normal is .03-3.0) I started taking 200mcg of Selenium
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TSH was down to 2.3 and my antibodies were down to
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[resveratrol]

I have just started taking AOR T100 yesterday after a family member suggested hypothyroidism as a possible reason for inability to lose weight. Last night, after taking only 2 pills during the day, I woke up at 2 AM having heated the room to a stuffy 78 degrees with my own body temperature, and was feeling hot and had to open a window -- this, after usually being chilly in the night and having a very hard time generating any body heat at all!

I also felt an effect that's difficult to describe, but I can only describe it as a whole-body feeling of a much higher energy level.

So, this is only one tiny sample point, but I'm extremely encouraged so far. I am going off of T100 for this week so I can get my thyroid tested accurately on Friday, but I expect to be on it for the rest of the fall, and if it's anything like my experience of the last 24 hours, I'm extremely encouraged!

[resveratrol]

OK, got my thyroid tested. I am just barely above the lowest baseline levels for T4 and TSH, but toward the top for T3. The nurse said my thyroid is compensating for the lack of T4 and TSH by producing extra T3.

Oveall, though, it's clear that my thyroid is feeble at best.

I am 39 and in good health despite being overweight (mostly due to muscle; my BMI puts me justy below "obese" on the scale).

I am going for an ultrasound at the end of the month to determine whether there's a cancer or something else messing up my thyroid.

If not, I am going to go on prescribed thyroid medications -- though the nurse warned that if my thyroid is failing, these kinds of medications can accelerate the thyroid's decline, so I am hesitant.

Any thoughts on this?

What can I do to re-normalize my thryoid levels (besides taking T100)?

I have started taking 1/4 tsp of iodized salt per day.

Is there anything else I can do?

Edited by resveratrol, 17 October 2011 - 06:16 PM.

[rwac]

Hmmm, why do you want to play with your thyroid if you're in good health?

Low-normal T4, TSH, high-normal T3 seems pretty close to perfect to me. Perhaps you should check your RT3 too though.

You should check your body temperature first thing in the morning before even leaving your bed, this will give you an idea of whether your thyroid is really a problem.

[nameless]

Can you post your exact numbers here?

If your thyroid looks good in a ultrasound I probably wouldn't do anything at all.

If Hashimoto's, small doses of T4 slow the decline of your thyroid, not accelerate it. No idea what your nurse is talking about...

[resveratrol]

Hmmm, why do you want to play with your thyroid if you're in good health?

Low-normal T4, TSH, high-normal T3 seems pretty close to perfect to me. Perhaps you should check your RT3 too though.

You should check your body temperature first thing in the morning before even leaving your bed, this will give you an idea of whether your thyroid is really a problem.

Thanks ... I will get a copy of the exact numbers when I go back for the ultrasound at the end of the month.

I don't want to "play" with my thyroid so much as get it back to a normal level. I seem to suffer from many of the symptoms of hypothyroidism, including often feeling cold or being unable to generate enough body heat, muscle cramps, and most importantly, inability to lose weight. I've been on a very intense cardio/weight lifting regimen for years and scaled it up quite a bit this summer, and have also improved my diet, but I'm finding I still suffer from "pregnant man syndrome."

I feel fairly certain at this point that my thyroid is what's holding me back.

[canz]

OK, got my thyroid tested. I am just barely above the lowest baseline levels for T4 and TSH, but toward the top for T3. The nurse said my thyroid is compensating for the lack of T4 and TSH by producing extra T3.

Oveall, though, it's clear that my thyroid is feeble at best.

I am 39 and in good health despite being overweight (mostly due to muscle; my BMI puts me justy below "obese" on the scale).

I am going for an ultrasound at the end of the month to determine whether there's a cancer or something else messing up my thyroid.

If not, I am going to go on prescribed thyroid medications -- though the nurse warned that if my thyroid is failing, these kinds of medications can accelerate the thyroid's decline, so I am hesitant.

Any thoughts on this?

What can I do to re-normalize my thryoid levels (besides taking T100)?

I have started taking 1/4 tsp of iodized salt per day.

Is there anything else I can do?

So did the T100 help you at all? Did you continue to experience warmer body temps, increased energy and possibly weight loss?

If this supplement is good for naturally improving thyroid function I may look into it. If it will interfere with normal function I don't want to mess with it.

[resveratrol]

So did the T100 help you at all? Did you continue to experience warmer body temps, increased energy and possibly weight loss?

If this supplement is good for naturally improving thyroid function I may look into it. If it will interfere with normal function I don't want to mess with it.

It does seem to be helping, yes. But then again, I've only been taking it for a month, the response seems to have been good but not overwhelming and I don't have hard numbers to back it up, and I'm only one sample point after all.

I have to admit that some of the ingredients -- particularly the "ABgland thyroid (Bovine thyroxine free) 100mg / ABgland adrenal (Bovine) 50mg / ABgland pituitary (Bovine) 15mg / ABgland spleen (Bovine) 5mg / ABgland thymus (Ovine)" -- scare me a bit, particularly with the note below the ingredients that "Lympholized grandular from free-range, pasture-fed, New Zealand and Argentinian bovine livestock not administered routine antibiotics or rBGH. Absolutely guaranteed free of bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE/"mad cow disease")."

So ... Good to know that there's no mad cow disease, but what exactly am I taking that I even have to worry about a risk like that? I assume the "bovine glandular" stuff is all taking bits of cow spleen/thymus, etc, and powderizing them and processing them somehow ...?

[OneScrewLoose]

I test normal for thyroid but I have a lot of symptoms of hyperthyroidism. Anyone have any advice/know any supplements that can slow down my thyroid?

[Application]

Its alternative medicine and controversial, but I find Japanese level doses of iodine/iodide have a dramatic positive effect on low thyroid symptoms- diagnosed or not.

I like this formulation best after trying lugols and a few other forms: http://www.1-thyroid.com/index.htm . Its marketed to woman but there is nothing gender specific about it.

More info on theory behind large doses of iodine here: http://iodine4health.com/