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[evodude]

It occurred to me that people who use nootropics and found them affective should also already gained significant advantage in social life and on yhe working floor. So the question is, did nootropics help you in gaining success business wise

[truboy]

Interesting topic for me man.

Would like to share my experiences so far. i tryed lot's of staff.

Piracetam - good for dealing with people, you can get some info more easy, but it sucks when you have some kind of confrontation when you have to show power, it's makes you LESS strong as boss/manager...

Pramiracetam - pretty good for giving orders, more BOSSY style, but for some reason much less planning, thinking...

Lecithin - good for sales, when you need to sell smng to a person, but for some reason after 1-2weeks of using it i make BAD decision. So i try to avoid it - i feel cool on it, good with ladies - but sucks on a long run...

1,3 Dimethylamylamine - good for MOTIVATION. when you hesitating, this supp makes you do! also good for concentration, when you need some things to be done your self - computer stuff, some designing, marketing... Not so good with people.

It's most effect obvious stuff - the ones i feel most...... besides them i use zinc, magnesium, multi, ALCAR, theanine, etc...

Read a lot of businesswise good stuff on Deprenyl and Dexedrine. But for me it's to heavy right now. i can try this after i will have kids LOL - but for now i have to save HEALTHY genetics.

would like to see more experiences from business side of view. The ones that help you to launch some compaing, find idea, close deal, handle stress in risky situation, find good solution etc... The one you can look back and say - WIN!
When you read "i feel good on this NOOT/supplement" - it shows nothing - it can be you expectations lowered, it can be that noot/drug makes you not care about problems so much. But then you realize that you should be more aggressive/active on this situation. When i was taking l-tryphophan - was great moodwise, i simply don't care about lot's of things... I was smiling LOL. But thx to it i lost very good business opportunity. So i was lesson for me. The results matter, the things you see/analyze after words. Not the instant feeling you get from supplement/drug.

so that's short summary of my business experiences with noots/supplements - would like to here yours!
p.s. we are talking about 10ish people working for me. My weaknesses/the things i want to improve - be more consistent, more stress resistant, better managing skills.

Edited by truboy, 27 October 2011 - 12:57 AM.

[truboy]

So many views of the topic, but not too many replies. I am sure many people of this forum has nice experiences to share.
I will be useful for everybody!

meanwhile after taking piracetam + choline citrate + b5 i became very motivated to do some coding;)

[impdaddee]

Having been there, and having done it without nootropics, I can't say I'd welcome a return to a leadership role. Everyone complains, no one says thank you.

Oh well, some people love it.

[LeonardElijah]

Hilarious thread.

I think I object to the assumption of the question. You don't get to study leadership. Leaders TEND to be born, not made. Lead yourself; others follow or not. You don't seek to become a "leader." Leadership is a derivative quality from everything you are, not something you get to maximize as its own quality.

[SuperjackDid_]

Look from poll result ,look like Piracetam not fit for
Leadership



Piracetam make most people introvert by spend learning for their own instead of manage stupid people .
Interesting poll.

Me including for introvert ,another drug combination may help for social and leadership anyway.

[Philosopher]

I'm a senior in high school. The business that I have is getting money selling some weed and beer for parties. I have to say, Piracetam has definitely helped me increase my social dominance. It's given me the audacity and creativity to do risky things in the social context. I've definitely been able to throw conversation without even thinking about, while I spend my energy on unconscious (yet conscious with piracetam) body language to stimulate signs of power. I've become into a person who knows what he wants, and then goes for it without much inhibition. It truly is amazing what this piracetam can do.

[1thoughtMaze1]

Hey philosopher I think you meant to say you're a senior, period haha

[LeonardElijah]

I'm a senior in high school. The business that I have is getting money selling some weed and beer for parties. I have to say, Piracetam has definitely helped me increase my social dominance. It's given me the audacity and creativity to do risky things in the social context. I've definitely been able to throw conversation without even thinking about, while I spend my energy on unconscious (yet conscious with piracetam) body language to stimulate signs of power. I've become into a person who knows what he wants, and then goes for it without much inhibition. It truly is amazing what this piracetam can do.

I can read a book of your stuff. I like observing other people, a safe distance for my impartial judgment. They tend to enjoy the attention. You can write the opposite of "The Benefits of Being a Wallflower" for me. A nightmare reversal of Chicken Soup for the Contemplative and Nice Soul. Let's see what you've got.

[khemix]

Piracetam fools you into thinking you have god-like powers when in fact your cognition barely improves.

[Philosopher]

Piracetam fools you into thinking you have god-like powers when in fact your cognition barely improves.

Thinking you have godlike powers is the main ingredient of power.

[Raptor87]

Hilarious thread.

I think I object to the assumption of the question. You don't get to study leadership. Leaders TEND to be born, not made. Lead yourself; others follow or not. You don't seek to become a "leader." Leadership is a derivative quality from everything you are, not something you get to maximize as its own quality.

Well looking at current psychology today we have findings that tell us that there are a certain performers of people under stress, I can imagine that the one´s who achieve more under stressful situations and are a bit of adrenaline junkies are the leadertypes. These people also have issues with heartattacks (I guess they wear the pump out). Then we have those who perform low under stressful situations, the anxiety type person.

It seems that aggression and narcissism is a reason why some people want to lead. From what Ivé read, leaders only lead for themselves and often dont have the slightest care for the people who they are leading. They just want to get things done!

As we can see through history psychopaths have positioned themselves on leadership positions. Current data tells us that psychopathy is a condition that you are born with so you are right about that, leadership and dominance seems to be an inherited trait (O this cruel world).

The problem is that we have a whole other social system these days. Looking in to a kitchen we can say that the headchef is a leader, but it doesn't mean that he is a leader if you change his environment.

So to serve the thread some just, we have to ask what kind of leadership we are looking at?

But for any advice on noots! Id say supplements that increases T and lowers oestrogen would be a good start. Maybe some drugs to elevate Norepinephrine/dopamine and something to calm the amygdala down. I would chew alot of synthetic B vitamins with a high protein diet and eat some extra cholesterol (preferably from eggs.

I think the most important thing is to get out of ones head and change the perception of people around you.

Also start reading on some socialpsychology, leadership and so on.

[longevitynow]

Piracetam has made me a little hypomanic on several occasions. And I will stress the hypomania, I was not in any way manic or in danger of becoming manic. It made me more talkative and I spoke faster, which is often useful in my job.

I have found deprenyl/selegiline is extremely useful for public speaking. And I find this to be more so particularly when done only right before the lecture after a long wash-out period. I and others who have tried it find themselves much sharper when using it during speaking. You are sharper answering questions. I gave some to a rather famous lecturer once who is a little hypomanic and speaks very quickly in the first place, and 15 minutes later he was off the chart in his rate of speech (he was very coherent but in that it is often difficult to keep up with him in the first place people were commenting on how insanely fast he was going). So be warned.

[1thoughtMaze1]

Piracetam fools you into thinking you have god-like powers when in fact your cognition barely improves.

Thinking you have godlike powers is the main ingredient of power.

Good point senior.

[absent minded]

post your dosages people !!

[truboy]

Bump!