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[hani]

Congratulations MrHappy!

[chris106]

Congratulations from me as well

Just wanted to add for everyone from europe that yourhealthbasket carries a DHA supplement with a 1:5 DHA/EPA ratio, which compared to "regular" fish-oil, is much closer to what has been suggested in this thread -

http://www.yourhealt...t_detail&p=1620

I just started taking UMP + cofactors today, will report back once I notice improvements.

Edited by chris106, 01 June 2013 - 10:57 PM.

[bobz1lla]

I sent a link to the thread to SmartPowders. This is their reply about the Uridine:

I read the thread. Its funny that how ppl assume that because your cheaper, it must be bunk material.

They also attached a COA.

Concerning the Alpha GPC:

If you will, please inform people that the reason we don't carry the 99% Alpha GPC anymore is because we can't find a stable 99% powder that doesn't turn into liquid. Even if 10% of te powder turns to liquid, it will ruin the rest of the powder. We lucked out and found 1 source that had amazing 99% that was stable, but we can't find any that is stable right now at 99%. So that is the REASON we sell 50%. The negative response of customers getting Luiquified alpha gpc was much higher than the positive who preferred it.

So I guess this settles it then.

Doesn't the COA typically have the testing lab listed?...don't see it.

*Wonders how hard it is for a person to fake a COA and send it over the internet*

[hullcrush]

If they include the exact GC/MS or IR analysis, it's difficult for overseas production facilities to fake. It's remarkable how few reports of nutraceutical tampering there have been.

My continued anecdotal is an unmanageable increase in libido (as described prior) and amotivation at 250 mg. The poor study design of hormone release seems to hold some value, I'm not sure it's completely neurotransmitter related. If you're in a committed relationship, it might be engine revving, but might also require a PDE5 inhibitor in those susceptible to decreased tumescence.

[owtsgmi]

Does anyone stack this with the ciltep stack? Say ciltep morning uridine at night?

Yep. Both in the am only.

Have you noticed any issues with working memory while on both?

Nope. No adverse effects as far as I can tell.

[X_Danny_X]

Man I haven't been to feel much with this stack in terms of advancing my intelligence. How long did it took for you guys to improve your intelligence to a new level.

[czarnykokos]

Guys I bought Uridine from SP too and I have some doubts about it as the taste is bitter and the consistency floury. I cant review its effectiveness as I have been taking it for 3 days. I do notice some minor changes but it might be placebo as well. The question is what is the quality of SP uridine ? Maybe some well oriented multibrand uridine consumers would comment on it ? Thanks

[MrHappy]

Guys I bought Uridine from SP too and I have some doubts about it as the taste is bitter and the consistency floury. I cant review its effectiveness as I have been taking it for 3 days. I do notice some minor changes but it might be placebo as well. The question is what is the quality of SP uridine ? Maybe some well oriented multibrand uridine consumers would comment on it ? Thanks

If it has a flour-like taste, it's not uridine-5'-monophosphate disodium. Should be a fine powder with a mildly salty after-taste. What's on the label?

Man I haven't been to feel much with this stack in terms of advancing my intelligence. How long did it took for you guys to improve your intelligence to a new level.

What training tools are you using?

[chung_pao]

I was researching this whole remyelination/neurogenesis question today and hit a road-block:
Is there really no dietary sources rich in Uridine? (UMP / UDP)

For any anatomical constituent I need (ex. protein, DHA, etc.), I always value dietary sources much higher than supplements. (Compliance and availability factor in)
I'm not discounting your stack, MrHappy. I'm just looking for an alternate source of uridine.

[X_Danny_X]

Guys I bought Uridine from SP too and I have some doubts about it as the taste is bitter and the consistency floury. I cant review its effectiveness as I have been taking it for 3 days. I do notice some minor changes but it might be placebo as well. The question is what is the quality of SP uridine ? Maybe some well oriented multibrand uridine consumers would comment on it ? Thanks

If it has a flour-like taste, it's not uridine-5'-monophosphate disodium. Should be a fine powder with a mildly salty after-taste. What's on the label?

Man I haven't been to feel much with this stack in terms of advancing my intelligence. How long did it took for you guys to improve your intelligence to a new level.

What training tools are you using?

What do you mean by training tools?

[Hebbeh]

I was researching this whole remyelination/neurogenesis question today and hit a road-block:
Is there really no dietary sources rich in Uridine? (UMP / UDP)

For any anatomical constituent I need (ex. protein, DHA, etc.), I always value dietary sources much higher than supplements. (Compliance and availability factor in)
I'm not discounting your stack, MrHappy. I'm just looking for an alternate source of uridine.

It's been thoroughly discussed multiple times in the thread. Every single poster that did extensive experimentation with food sources readily agreed that food sources did not provide any of the benefits of supplementation with UMP. One of the supposed better food sources is brewers yeast. I've supplemented for years (at least 10) with several heaping tablespoons of brewers yeast every day (for the nutritional value) and never experienced any of the benefits that I experience from UMP. In spite of the years of brewers yeast supplementation, the first time I tried UMP was like night and day. If you are looking for the mental clarity effects of UMP, you won't find it from food sources of uridine. There is no explanation but everybody has agreed that food sources just don't seem to provide the same benefit. That said, I do believe that I am an exceptional responder to sublingual UMP....which may be due to my age (56) as compared to the average member posting here. It appears that UMP may possibly provide increased benefit to an aging brain....it certainly felt like it turned the clock back for me.

[MrHappy]

Guys I bought Uridine from SP too and I have some doubts about it as the taste is bitter and the consistency floury. I cant review its effectiveness as I have been taking it for 3 days. I do notice some minor changes but it might be placebo as well. The question is what is the quality of SP uridine ? Maybe some well oriented multibrand uridine consumers would comment on it ? Thanks

If it has a flour-like taste, it's not uridine-5'-monophosphate disodium. Should be a fine powder with a mildly salty after-taste. What's on the label?

Man I haven't been to feel much with this stack in terms of advancing my intelligence. How long did it took for you guys to improve your intelligence to a new level.

What training tools are you using?

What do you mean by training tools?

By increasing your capacity to learn / retain, you need to fill that space for it to be useful to you. This could be a good time to embark on a new course / training schedule.

[X_Danny_X]

Guys I bought Uridine from SP too and I have some doubts about it as the taste is bitter and the consistency floury. I cant review its effectiveness as I have been taking it for 3 days. I do notice some minor changes but it might be placebo as well. The question is what is the quality of SP uridine ? Maybe some well oriented multibrand uridine consumers would comment on it ? Thanks

If it has a flour-like taste, it's not uridine-5'-monophosphate disodium. Should be a fine powder with a mildly salty after-taste. What's on the label?

Man I haven't been to feel much with this stack in terms of advancing my intelligence. How long did it took for you guys to improve your intelligence to a new level.

What training tools are you using?

What do you mean by training tools?

By increasing your capacity to learn / retain, you need to fill that space for it to be useful to you. This could be a good time to embark on a new course / training schedule.

dude, i decided to get a new degree. Digital Animation and Design, plus I work full time. if that is what you mean on new training/course schedule.

[MrHappy]

Guys I bought Uridine from SP too and I have some doubts about it as the taste is bitter and the consistency floury. I cant review its effectiveness as I have been taking it for 3 days. I do notice some minor changes but it might be placebo as well. The question is what is the quality of SP uridine ? Maybe some well oriented multibrand uridine consumers would comment on it ? Thanks

If it has a flour-like taste, it's not uridine-5'-monophosphate disodium. Should be a fine powder with a mildly salty after-taste. What's on the label?

Man I haven't been to feel much with this stack in terms of advancing my intelligence. How long did it took for you guys to improve your intelligence to a new level.

What training tools are you using?

What do you mean by training tools?

By increasing your capacity to learn / retain, you need to fill that space for it to be useful to you. This could be a good time to embark on a new course / training schedule.

dude, i decided to get a new degree. Digital Animation and Design, plus I work full time. if that is what you mean on new training/course schedule.

Bingo. Good work

[Nickotin]

If it has a flour-like taste, it's not uridine-5'-monophosphate disodium. Should be a fine powder with a mildly salty after-taste. What's on the label?

It is simply labeled "Uridine". It does not have a flour taste but it has the consistency of sticky flour. It looks and feels a bit like flour but doesn't fully separate. If you take an ID card to attempt to break up clumps it will stick to the card. It dissolves almost instantly when dosing sublingual and tastes a bit chemical-ly... almost like something you would expect from a racetam. Out of curiosity I melted a bit in a spoon and it melted much faster and different from the ecological formula (EF) UMP. EF turned black and burnt while Smart Powders (SP) melted fast into a clear liquid and dried almost as hard as an epoxy. The SP effects were quite different from the EF in my experience. I also experienced some extreme (for me) emotional flattening and dullness. I took it once at night and woke up feeling amazing, but I couldn't tell if it was just the juxtaposition of the negative effects wearing off or not. I took it for a few days and stopped due to achy gums and headaches. I'd be happy to send some to anyone who wants to perform some real science on it, just PM me if you live in the US.

Photo comparison of EF and SP http://i.imgur.com/3MyhVPM.jpg

Edited by Nickotin, 05 June 2013 - 05:04 AM.

[MrHappy]

If it has a flour-like taste, it's not uridine-5'-monophosphate disodium. Should be a fine powder with a mildly salty after-taste. What's on the label?

It is simply labeled "Uridine". It does not have a flour taste but it has the consistency of sticky flour. It looks and feels a bit like flour but doesn't fully separate. If you take an ID card to attempt to break up clumps it will stick to the card. It dissolves almost instantly when dosing sublingual and tastes a bit chemical-ly... almost like something you would expect from a racetam. Out of curiosity I melted a bit in a spoon and it melted much faster and different from the ecological formula (EF) UMP. EF turned black and burnt while Smart Powders (SP) melted fast into a clear liquid and dried almost as hard as an epoxy. The SP effects were quite different from the EF in my experience. I also experienced some extreme (for me) emotional flattening and dullness. I took it once at night and woke up feeling amazing, but I couldn't tell if it was just the juxtaposition of the negative effects wearing off or not. I took it for a few days and stopped due to achy gums and headaches. I'd be happy to send some to anyone who wants to perform some real science on it, just PM me if you live in the US.

Photo comparison of EF and SP http://i.imgur.com/3MyhVPM.jpg

EF capsules have filler, so probably not a good comparison. What dose were you taking?

[czarnykokos]

http://www.smartpowd...idine-100g.html there is "Uridine-5'-Monophosphate" mentioned in a description of their product. However, according to CoA it is supposed to be white crystalling powder - which is not, or at least in my opinion this does not resemble crystals at all.

[hani]

How does free base uridine compare to SP? I remember you MrHappy having a bulk order from china, was it UMP or free base?

Also, can anyone take a picture of their SP uridine? Thanks!

[czarnykokos]

here you are
http://img839.images...30605100618.jpg

[hani]

Sorry I meant SN (Superior Nutraceuticals). I already have SP powder.

[Nickotin]

If it has a flour-like taste, it's not uridine-5'-monophosphate disodium. Should be a fine powder with a mildly salty after-taste. What's on the label?

It is simply labeled "Uridine". It does not have a flour taste but it has the consistency of sticky flour. It looks and feels a bit like flour but doesn't fully separate. If you take an ID card to attempt to break up clumps it will stick to the card. It dissolves almost instantly when dosing sublingual and tastes a bit chemical-ly... almost like something you would expect from a racetam. Out of curiosity I melted a bit in a spoon and it melted much faster and different from the ecological formula (EF) UMP. EF turned black and burnt while Smart Powders (SP) melted fast into a clear liquid and dried almost as hard as an epoxy. The SP effects were quite different from the EF in my experience. I also experienced some extreme (for me) emotional flattening and dullness. I took it once at night and woke up feeling amazing, but I couldn't tell if it was just the juxtaposition of the negative effects wearing off or not. I took it for a few days and stopped due to achy gums and headaches. I'd be happy to send some to anyone who wants to perform some real science on it, just PM me if you live in the US.

Photo comparison of EF and SP http://i.imgur.com/3MyhVPM.jpg

EF capsules have filler, so probably not a good comparison. What dose were you taking?

anywhere from 40 to 150 mg
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[owtsgmi]

here you are
http://img839.images...30605100618.jpg

That doesn't look like UMP to me. Mine has more of a consistency of fine sand.

Mine is this:
http://amzn.com/B00COOE3R6

[czarnykokos]

I am confused whether to keep using my SP stuff or not if it turns out that might be something else

[Nickotin]

I am confused whether to keep using my SP stuff or not if it turns out that might be something else

While I'm really curious to see someone be the guinea pig for a while, I wouldn't be the first volunteer. IMO, nothing about sp "uridine" is consistent with UMP, and the napkin coa along with the product description which is essentially a copypasta of the OP doesn't exactly inspire confidence. ...but I could be wrong...

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Edited by Nickotin, 07 June 2013 - 01:03 AM.

[kimrick]

I am confused whether to keep using my SP stuff or not if it turns out that might be something else

While I'm really curious to see someone be the guinea pig for a while, I wouldn't be the first volunteer. IMO, nothing about sp "uridine" is consistent with UMP, and the napkin coa along with the product description which is essentially a copypasta of the OP doesn't exactly inspire confidence. ...but I could be wrong...

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What is a napkin coa?

[Nickotin]

I am confused whether to keep using my SP stuff or not if it turns out that might be something else

While I'm really curious to see someone be the guinea pig for a while, I wouldn't be the first volunteer. IMO, nothing about sp "uridine" is consistent with UMP, and the napkin coa along with the product description which is essentially a copypasta of the OP doesn't exactly inspire confidence. ...but I could be wrong...

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What is a napkin coa?

The CoA they posted to someone in this thread looks like someone quickly pencil whipped it in excel. The product description doesn't match the product and there is no information at all about the certifying lab. ...as in jotted it down on a napkin...as in not very professional, IMO. I'm writing it off as a $20 loss until there is more information about what it actually is.

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Edited by Nickotin, 07 June 2013 - 01:36 AM.

[Hebbeh]

I sent a link to the thread to SmartPowders. This is their reply about the Uridine:

I read the thread. Its funny that how ppl assume that because your cheaper, it must be bunk material.

They also attached a COA.

Concerning the Alpha GPC:

If you will, please inform people that the reason we don't carry the 99% Alpha GPC anymore is because we can't find a stable 99% powder that doesn't turn into liquid. Even if 10% of te powder turns to liquid, it will ruin the rest of the powder. We lucked out and found 1 source that had amazing 99% that was stable, but we can't find any that is stable right now at 99%. So that is the REASON we sell 50%. The negative response of customers getting Luiquified alpha gpc was much higher than the positive who preferred it.

So I guess this settles it then.

I just went back and looked at the COA. It specifies minimum 98% purity and supposedly tested at 100.3% purity. How does something exceed 100% purity?

Edited by Hebbeh, 07 June 2013 - 02:10 AM.

[hani]

Guys you're welcome again to contact SP. I seriously don't know what they would gain from faking a product. It's not like Uridine is expensive to make.

[Nickotin]

Guys you're welcome again to contact SP. I seriously don't know what they would gain from faking a product. It's not like Uridine is expensive to make.

Can you please share with us your experience of the SP vs. the other UMP you've taken?

[alecnevsky]

here you are
http://img839.images...30605100618.jpg

Why am I not surprised? It's not supposed to clump up. In fact, I posted earlier that my A-GPC from Smart Powders clumped up just like this 2 months in. They're probably using some kind of common mixing agent to "cut" it Ha. Sketchy fucks. Until they get on here and post their "irrefutable proofs" I will advise everyone reading to avoid Smart Powders. Something went seriously awry Nov-Dec 2012 after the site "redesign." And, from what it looks like, we are paying for that "redesign."

Superior Nutraceuticals' uridine (both TAU and UMP) is brilliant. Service: outstanding. I emailed and asked them to attach COA super late after my order and they somehow managed to include it. I have no idea who is behind SN but, they are worthy of my business as of 06/07/13. The powder has fine granulated texture, even when kept at room temperature. I now keep it in the fridge however.

Edited by alecnevsky, 07 June 2013 - 08:05 AM.