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#1 sam7777

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 01:18 AM


Agarikon, Agaricus, Maitaki, Shitaki, Cordyceps, Hen-of-the-Woods, Turkey Tail, meshimakobu, Reishi, Chaga, are all medicinal mushrooms.

There is then Schizandra berry.

I believe these as nootropics need more discussion, because of how powerful they are, and especially when combined in some forms.

Another thing to note is the power of omega 3 and omega 6 for brain function.

Another thing to note is the power of fasting.

I think attack dosing with fish pills can do wonders, but also I think that attack dosing with nuts high in omega 6 or alternating back in forth on high omega 3 to omega 6 days is worth looking into.

Fasting is a definite means of controlling the mind. Some days I feel like if I eat at all my brain will stop working. And indeed I have days where eating makes me incapable of thinking for the rest of the day about more than very rudimentary things.

True, I have ulcers, heavy metal poisoning, endocrine problems, IBS, complications from diabetes in the past, and probably parasites- and probably many of the people on this forum do as well, but do not realize it.

If you are truly seeking the help of a nootropic these herbs and fungi are nearly the most powerful medicines on the planet. They are much more complex than just a simple 1 pronged approach of typical nootropic.

I do not think all the selegine in the world will help you if what is wrong with me is what is wrong with some of the rest of you. People should consider means to rid theirselves of these exogenous toxins before it becomes too severe, and you are in my situation where your brain is almost totally useless. Food allergies are extremely detrimental to learning. If anything, it is probably some stupid food allergy causing me my problems.

Would you believe me if I told you, eating an offending food in a small amount on a Monday could having a lasting detrimental affect to your IQ all the way until Sunday. If anything in many cases, these allergies show delayed reactions. You think you are getting away with eating that slice of pizza on a Wednesday, and then you wake up on a Saturday in a blaring brain fog.
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#2 Marios Kyriazis

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 11:58 AM


Would you believe me if I told you, eating an offending food in a small amount on a Monday could having a lasting detrimental affect to your IQ all the way until Sunday. If anything in many cases, these allergies show delayed reactions. You think you are getting away with eating that slice of pizza on a Wednesday, and then you wake up on a Saturday in a blaring brain fog.


Some people do have food allergies or intolerance, but there is no evidence that eating a certain food can affect your brain as you suggest. There are so many other factors that can have an impact, e.g. stress, tiredness, dehydration, that have no relevance to food. The human body is not as simple as that.

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 07:45 PM

I thought I should add lion's mane to your list of mushrooms as it has an obvious nootropic effect for me( you can search here for my experience)

#4 sam7777

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Posted 16 October 2011 - 09:18 PM

stress, tiredness, dehydration


Too often used as a defense or scapegoat of the true causes of illness. not everything is in your head, not everything is related to wear and tear.

If you have chronic issues, it is most likely caused by a chronic offender. If you do not work 80 hours a week, have a brain tumour, inherited condition, or other obvious source of problems; in other words- if the explanation is not readily evident, you need to start examining what is in your environment.

It may NOT be food. You could have a mold infestation, it could be bad pipes in your house, etc ,etc.

People on this forum do not consider the sources of their problems nearly enough!!

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Posted 18 October 2011 - 03:30 AM

Here is more of my 2 cents.

Your nootropic stack need to focus on serotonin and NGF, on acetylcholine receptor upregulation, cross-relational thinking, etc. If anything a lot of those dopaminergic stimulants only stifle creativity and intelligence more so, they just help you slave away at school and work more so.

If your stack increases the optimal function of the many many poorly understood serotonin neural networks and their interdependent cholinergic functions, you will notice that your relationship with people and how you work with them and the work you produce will be of such a greater quality, it will make up for the lack of more work. Quality over quantity, experience over final destination.

2. Changing receptor sensitivity to sex hormones/corticosteroids -> this messes with serotonin and ach -> causes a change in mental state
3. Chronically ill people have almost defunct serotonin systems
4. Stimulants like adderall should be avoided
5. Racetams are okay because they modulate the serotonin system
6. Noot stacks should focus on serotonin and NGF, on ach receptor upregulation, cross-relational thinking
7. Dopaminergic stimulants only stifle creativity and intelligence
8. Serotonin neural networks and interdependent cholinergic functions need to be prioritized


7. Dopaminergic stimulants only stifle creativity and intelligence

Nope. They play a part in many plant derived drugs' ability to endow creativity. The issue is that the brain is not just a dopamine machine predicated purely upon goal seeking. The location of the receptors is as important as the receptor in question. But in pharmaceuticals like adderall, because of the specific sections of the brain which the drug acts upon the D1 and D2 receptors, and the way it effects DAT, synaptic plasticity, it is known among many to have a blunting effect on creativity. It SOUNDS purely bias to say it is only pharma that does this, but that just seems how it stacks up. It is probably because of the extreme acidic metabolism of these drugs, and the extremely brutal way they are thrown at the liver and enzymes. The drug is meant to be very standardized and always work as stated, which means it is especially difficult to break down by the body compared to ground up plant stuff. Brain damage is suggested with these types of ADD meds, but not well established. It my even be that because the drugs are so abusable, the tolerance they induce leads to long term changes and atrophies of other unused parts of the brain. You are physically manipulating real chemistry within the brain, shifting energy from one part to another in a consistent, intense manner. I do not find it extremely implausible that this leads to atrophies within the brain.

I could explain the chemistry slightly more, but that would lead you to making the mistake I have been making- getting obsessed with what the "math should add up to" - when it is how you are thinking that counts the most. This is basically the entire mantra of this forum - which is why I do not like longecity as much. Pill + research = desired result every time - Same mantra as the established medical community. What that is doing is A. Ignoring common sense B. Ignoring physics

So, following this logic, it is not the coffee that is as dangerous as the way you think when your under the influence of the coffee. I suppose somewhere in this world, against plausibility, there is a Buddhist monk who takes ADD meds and is somehow still spiritually intense. Is said medication good for spiritual enhancement? Interesting question.

ADD meds and dopiminergic stimulants have a tendency towards tunnel vision, essentially. You over analyze, you become obsessed with impressing boss/teacher/winning, you over focus, you miss things. Intuition involves a different mental outlook and approach. This is probably why I consistently have people who meditate tell me they are so in control of their lives mentally, and yet I continue to be out of control.

In my case, I do not blame my illness as a direct cause of my lack of control, it is indirectly responsible. I do not have the mental will power to override the challenge it puts on me. Well, challenge is relative. The average person does not try as hard to get by, who does not have to do so. Enduring hardship mentally toughens you. You develop will power and mental fortitude greater than others. The mind is a muscle, without equivocation. This stuff here.

8. Serotonin neural networks and interdependent cholinergic functions need to be prioritized


6. Noot stacks should focus on serotonin and NGF, on ach receptor upregulation, cross-relational thinking

These help people no doubt, but ultimately I believe it is that they train someone to think in a manner- that ultimately you learn to do without the help of the said supplement. After all there is a real risk with taking a great deal of supplements.

2. Changing receptor sensitivity to sex hormones/corticosteroids -> this messes with serotonin and ach -> causes a change in mental state


This is consistent, and probably the largest risk of all herbal supplements, or illicit drugs. Piracetam DOES effect adrenal function, but compared to herbs or things like Crack/Meth, it is hardly worth mentioning.

Edited by sam7777, 18 October 2011 - 03:32 AM.


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Posted 18 October 2011 - 03:38 AM

Why has everyones brain taken a holiday?

Adrenal tests such as 24 hour cortisol tests, various thyroid tests, blood cortisol tests, etc can be done. Other tests besides adrenals can be done, but there is probably one test that I believe everyone should get if they have neurological problems.

- a hair analysis test;

to see if you have heavy metals. Plain and simple, I think heavy metals are what is affecting so many of the nootropic users.

As for the neurotransmitters, I believe blood serum is not exactly testable, but even if it were - it would be cost prohibitive. A more realistic means to measure the levels is EEGs and MRI which are also phenomenally expensive. They basically do not test peoples brains in this manner unless they are a research test subject, or it is an autopsy of some sort of insane criminal. If you have brain fog, you definitely have low neurotransmitters, and worse yet, parts of the brain "off their kilter" so to speak. The brain is like a system of subway terminals, your memory and your neurotransmitters are not so much to blame- they are like the tracks, it is the miscommunication of the system governing how the trains- or the sections of the brain communicate through those "neural networks" I mentioned. You can certainly have brain cell death where you lose receptors however. E.g parkinson's or a burnt out crack addict, etc.

Many, many others will argue against me and claim that it is parasites, adrenal fatigue, thyroid disease, food allergies like gluten and dairy intolerance, or genetic causes. They are going to tell you to do wild, wild things - saunas, enemas, 40 day orange juice fasts, strict meatless diets, carbless diets, liver flushes. People are obsessed with having a dirty detox system. Scary? Scares the hell out of me too.

I am not a physics or math expert by even a LONGSHOT, but just read for yourself on the internet of what heavy metal poisoning is capable of doing to the human body. The only thing capable of allowing the detox organs of being overwhelmed with food allergies, fungi, parasites, bacteria, and viruses in the first place is often harsh chemicals and metals.

In summary, meditation, heavy metal poisoning, food allergy toxicity, indulgence in food and sex, can all be explained with nueropsychopharmacology- which is a form of physics - a form of hard science. Spirituality, hallucinations, etc, etc all goes back to brain chemistry. This is enough to make me equally scared of herbs, nootropics, and prescription pills. It is enough to make me equally in belief of how fasting from food, sex, drugs, and meditating can physically change the brain. I assure you that it can. I am an non-believer, and I will tell you- the people who are devoutly religious whom I know- have tremendously powerful minds. When someone has control over the mind, and is in belief that they have control, and intends to continue to do so, they are a sight to behold.

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#7 sam7777

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Posted 21 October 2011 - 07:21 AM

Has anyone had experience with Turkey tail?





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